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Smok vape pen 22 volts when fully charged?
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SirRichardRear
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a fully charged 18650 battery is 4.2 volts. that device cuts the battery off at 3.3 volts
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no idea as they don't list the specs but it's always an 18650 or 18350 inside those tubes. actually based on the mah I'm gonna say it's likely a 18350 but the voltage thing is still the same.
No idea of the amp rating, i wouldn't use it outside of the tank it came with personally.
ok . thank you
so its 4.2 max , default coil 0.3 om
4.2 * 4.2 / 0.3 om = 58 watt max can handle
and dont plan to use battery separately. need all this info for coil calculations
will use probalby 0.5 kanthal 5 rounds - calculated 0.5 oms - 72mm length wire
heat flux then max 309 - min 194
or 0.4 kanthal
and battery longst ~2 times longer. Almost 2 times less watts
so its 4.2 max , default coil 0.3 om
4.2 * 4.2 / 0.3 om = 58 watt max can handle
and dont plan to use battery separately. need all this info for coil calculations
will use probalby 0.5 kanthal 5 rounds - calculated 0.5 oms - 72mm length wire
heat flux then max 309 - min 194
or 0.4 kanthal
and battery longst ~2 times longer. Almost 2 times less watts
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SirRichardRear
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I mean I wouldn't build on it personally. Plus it's regulated so ohms law doesn't apply. Also it'll have a built in amp limit and volt limit and it's non adjustable. Those are made to be used in a kit only really
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it worked for me . wtih 0.5 om works even better then original. original more dry hit
just notice from your first post - that device cuts the battery off at 3.3 volts
so is it mean same voltage all the time ? when fully charged and discharged . all the time 3.3 volts ?
its make more sence.
sorry for many questions.
just notice from your first post - that device cuts the battery off at 3.3 volts
so is it mean same voltage all the time ? when fully charged and discharged . all the time 3.3 volts ?
its make more sence.
sorry for many questions.
From what I've been looking at, that has a built in battery and is regulated. You don't need to worry about amps, since it will not work at all if your coil is to low in resistance (or to high resistance).
Is there any way to adjust the watts? I didn't see any. From what I was reading, it is just put in the coil, juice and press a button. I think the device regulates the voltage at 4.2v until it hits 3.3v (actual battery charge) when it cuts off letting you know it is time to recharge.
So, the 0.5 ohm coils will also use less juice and give you longer battery life than the 0.3 ohm.
Now, if you want to see how voltage and resistance relate to wattage and amperes... check here
http://www.steam-engine.org/ohm.asp#
Use 4.2 as your voltage and enter the resistance of your coil. The app will calculate for amps and watts.
Thank you Gbalkam.
i use this calculator a lot.
problem that i am not sure about volts. is it 4.2 fully charged and discharge till 3.3 volts.
Or its contstant 3.3 , as SirRichardRear wrote before.
i need watts only to calculate Heat flux
mW/mm²
watts can get from voltage and resistance. but as i told , dont know voltage . if its constant , then wattage also constanct .
and heat flux too
i use this calculator a lot.
problem that i am not sure about volts. is it 4.2 fully charged and discharge till 3.3 volts.
Or its contstant 3.3 , as SirRichardRear wrote before.
i need watts only to calculate Heat flux
mW/mm²
watts can get from voltage and resistance. but as i told , dont know voltage . if its constant , then wattage also constanct .
and heat flux too
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what 18350 has above 1K mAh?
It doesn't regulated the volts, they drop as you vape
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so you say power drops down
volt/omm 0.30 watt
4.20 58.80
4.10 56.03
4.00 53.33
3.90 50.70
3.80 48.13
3.70 45.63
3.60 43.20
3.50 40.83
3.40 38.53
3.30 36.30
almost twice !
and Heat flux 58 watt is -
455 mW/mm² !!!!!!!!!
drop down to 283
its on default coil
so you say power drops down
volt/omm 0.30 watt
4.20 58.80
4.10 56.03
4.00 53.33
3.90 50.70
3.80 48.13
3.70 45.63
3.60 43.20
3.50 40.83
3.40 38.53
3.30 36.30
almost twice !
and Heat flux 58 watt is -
455 mW/mm² !!!!!!!!!
drop down to 283
its on default coil
usually, a regulated mod will keep the voltage at a constant 4.2v until it hits the 3.3v capacity. 3.3v is your low charge limit, discharging a battery below this can damage the battery, but to keep a steady vape, the circuits keep the current flow at 4.2v. Think of it like a tap on a bucket of water. The water comes out the tap at the same rate until the bucket is empty. If you put the tap 1/3 the way from the top, the water still comes out the same rate, but stops when the bucket is 2/3 full. That is an example, the actual circuit is a bit more complex.
Maybe drinking pop through a straw would be a better example. You get pop just as fast from a bottle that is full as you do from one that is half full, because you are sucking the straw the same way. That is what the circuit is doing.. sucking current from a full battery until it hits 2/3 full. That is a bit over simplified, but that is about how it works.
As the the battery.. it is a built in battery. You can't change it.
Now the 0.5 ohm coil lets less current flow through than the 0.3 ohm coil. It has higher resistance so the battery discharges slower. Specifically, a 0.5 ohm coil will last roughly 40% longer on the same battery than the 0.3 ohm coil will.
All this should be in the user manual that came with the device.
The problem is, this device is so simplified that all you can change is the coil. Everything else is preset at the factory.
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No 18650 has that low of a mah reading.
Also it's regulated just not adjustable. Regulated means it has a board for protection.
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It claims to have 1650mAh
and wouldn't that mean it is protected, I thought regulated meant it regulated the current so you get the same vape when the battery is at 3.9V as you do when the battery is at 3.4V?
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Regulated is anything with a board. Unregulated is just the batteries powering the build with no board in between. They usually use a mosfet though but not always. The smok pen is defiantly regulated. Just not adjustable
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To really answer this, you have to go look at the web site. In this case, yes, it is protected. It is a simple PVD. You put in the coil, you puff on the vape. All the settings are preset by the factory.
Now, there might be mechanical mods, with a "kick" built in, but those are a different type. You can also get a "kick" to add to the mechanical mod, to regulate the voltage, most have a short circuit protection circuit.
This device here though is a bit different. Simply a regulated mod that has been factory set.
Basically, this is a cig-a-like with a tank.