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zeeter

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...or what I assume butt would taste like.

I tried some coffee and donut flavors using glazed donut, chocolate glazed donut, extra chocolate glazed donut (upped the donut over the coffee), and finally a coffee cake. They all were terrible and my one week of maturing wait time only exacerbated my disappointment.

I think it was the RY4 Double that I added, so I'm going to try again. I also put in some bavarian cream.

Did you ever have experience where you mixed a batch and it tasted awful, but you had to vape anyway? After a while I become accustomed to the flavor, but if I ever tried to offer this to someone else they'd choke.

New recipe is going to be chocolate glazed, double-chocolate, espresso, sugar cookie, and graham cracker.
 

zeeter

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Seriously, chocolates and flavors with AP are not the easiest flavors to mix.

Post an example recipe that failed for you, maybe we'll see the issue.

I didn't put AP into this one. It was:
RY4 Double 1%
Chocolate Glazed Doughnut 8%
Bavarian Cream 3%
Coffee 6%
Double Chocolate 2%

A couple other ones with glazed doughnut with vienna and butter cream substituted for double chocolate and bavarian cream.

Coffee Cake one was promising:
Coffee Cake: 6%
RY4 Double: 3.5%
Sugar Cookie: 3.5%
Golden Butter: 1.5%
AP (ok, this one had AP): 1.5%
Coffee Extra Clear: 2%
Brown Sugar: 2%

Don't ask me to name the brands.
 

SteveS45

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I hate to ask butt..................... How do you know what butt smells and tastes like? :tantrum:
 

zeeter

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I don't have a ton of experience w/ this profile but 16% seems like a lot of choc-coffees.

I'll bump this so mebbe someone who knows more about these flavors can help.
@mjag @Teresa P @willmc @RonJS

I thought so too after making it, so i bumped that same recipe down to 3% coffee

Coffee 3%
RY4x2: 2%
Chocolate Glazed Doughnut: 8%
Bavarian Cream 5%
Double Chocolate: 2%
 

Just Frank

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I use Chocolate Glazed Doughnut quite a bit. I only use it in only one recipe tho. It's not a popular mix on this forum but we love it here. It needs a few weeks steep, better after a month.

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  • CAP-Chocolate Glazed Donut 7%
  • FW-Yellow Cake 1%
  • INW-Biscuit .75%
  • FA-Joy .75%
You could add a little coffee to Bronuts and see how it does. But like I said a steep is necessary.

The regular CAP Glazed Doughnuts tastes like butt. I haven't had TFA's version with the same moniker.
 

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I've never made anything that wasn't at least pleasant and vapeable. At the same time, I've also never made anything that was what I'd hoped it would be either.

BUTT I've never made any bakery flavors. I feel they must require far more imaginative taste buds than I possess.
 

mjag

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I don't have a ton of experience w/ this profile but 16% seems like a lot of choc-coffees.

I'll bump this so mebbe someone who knows more about these flavors can help.
@mjag @Teresa P @willmc @RonJS
Yeah, seems like a lot to me too, maybe drop the CGD to 6%, double choc to 1% and coffee to 3%, some coffee flavors are strong. The ry4 throws me for a loop, seems like it would be odd in this mix.

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mjag

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I use Chocolate Glazed Doughnut quite a bit. I only use it in only one recipe tho. It's not a popular mix on this forum but we love it here. It needs a few weeks steep, better after a month.

Bronuts by ENYAWREKLAW
  • CAP-Chocolate Glazed Donut 7%
  • FW-Yellow Cake 1%
  • INW-Biscuit .75%
  • FA-Joy .75%
You could add a little coffee to Bronuts and see how it does. But like I said a steep is necessary.

The regular CAP Glazed Doughnuts tastes like butt. I haven't had TFA's version with the same moniker.
That's a good idea, not the biggest fan of bronuts but it is one mix where CGD is not awful.

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zeeter

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At the risk of opening up a whole new can of worms here, I wonder if it may have tasted better had I steeped it longer. Right now it isn't bad, though my palette may have just gotten used to it. I opened the last bottle last night which has been about two and a half weeks. While it's not anything I would buy, it's not bad. A few tweaks of the recipe and getting rid of the RY4x2 might correct it.
 

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At the risk of opening up a whole new can of worms here, I wonder if it may have tasted better had I steeped it longer. Right now it isn't bad, though my palette may have just gotten used to it. I opened the last bottle last night which has been about two and a half weeks. While it's not anything I would buy, it's not bad. A few tweaks of the recipe and getting rid of the RY4x2 might correct it.

There is probably AP in double RY4 to begin with...not sure I would like anything sweet with RY4 added in, I would personally cut the chocolate donut to 4 or 5%, and swap the ry4 for a tiny bit of caramel or just leave it out
 

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I made the mistake of buying a huuuuge bottle of Double RY4 back when I still thought Dekang RY4 was still my favorite (IT WASNT LMAO), so I try it in a new mix now and then, and it doesnt really go with anything else I like?
 

zeeter

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Yeah, I really didn't know what effect RY4 would have on my mix. Everyone was raving about it so I thought I'd add some. I'll find a place for it...since I got a 4 oz bottle of it.
 

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I made the mistake of buying a huuuuge bottle of Double RY4 back when I still thought Dekang RY4 was still my favorite (IT WASNT LMAO), so I try it in a new mix now and then, and it doesnt really go with anything else I like?

Im not a huge ry4 double fan but I like the sharpness it adds to a caramel/vanilla custard when used at fairly low percentage
 

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So I am one of the apparent few that doesn’t think Cap chocolate glazed donut/glazed donut taste like ass/play-doh. @twisted has a coffee/chocolate glazed donut recipe that’s pretty good. No ry4 in it, but fits your profile otherwise. It’s way back in 2016 and I don’t know how to post it here(embarrassing, yes....). Coffee and Chocolate Donuts. Check it out. :D
 

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So I am one of the apparent few that doesn’t think Cap chocolate glazed donut/glazed donut taste like ass/play-doh. @twisted has a coffee/chocolate glazed donut recipe that’s pretty good. No ry4 in it, but fits your profile otherwise. It’s way back in 2016 and I don’t know how to post it here(embarrassing, yes....). Coffee and Chocolate Donuts. Check it out. :D
I am play-dough sensitive I get play-dough from the FA Zeppola that I got because Fresh 03 raved about it so much.
Admittedly is its a lower level of play-dough than most of those types of flavoring.
 

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I am play-dough sensitive I get play-dough from the FA Zeppola that I got because Fresh 03 raved about it so much.
Admittedly is its a lower level of play-dough than most of those types of flavoring.
Oh, I love Zeppola! I’m also a lucky Joy person, too. No beer taste. My taste buds vs yours vs anyone else’s. Subjective. ;)
 

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I am cursed with The bitter Gene and super sensitive taste buds.
10% is as high as I ever go on total flavoring content.
More usually around 7.
I usually mix around 8-10%. Not super sensitive, but since I started DIY, commercial juice is too ridiculously sweet. 20%?! Egads!
 

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Can I be the branding manager for your start up company? First release "Chokealot Doughbutts"
 

zeeter

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Not to brag...but I'm going to do it, anyway. I just made the best juice I've ever vaped. A strawberry cheesecake. Great taste; great clouds. I am going to start making this stuff by the liter!
 

SteveS45

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I am going to start making this stuff by the liter!

Since you haven't been DIYing for too long I might suggest making maybe 2 60ML bottles and leaving one sit for months and then see what your liter would taste like after some aging. I once made a 30 ML bottle of Lava Cake that was amazing and I forgot about it. 6 Months later it was so freaking strong it was unvapable. Just my suggestion since you seem to have amazed yourself and I would not want you to waste a liter of supplies.
 

zeeter

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Since you haven't been DIYing for too long I might suggest making maybe 2 60ML bottles and leaving one sit for months and then see what your liter would taste like after some aging. I once made a 30 ML bottle of Lava Cake that was amazing and I forgot about it. 6 Months later it was so freaking strong it was unvapable. Just my suggestion since you seem to have amazed yourself and I would not want you to waste a liter of supplies.

I didn't mean literally by the liter. Probably 60 ml and let it sit a week and a half. I left this one for a week at 30ml.
 

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Before making major amounts try mixing one and leaving it for a few months to see exactly what you will have after a fewq months. You just got into DIY and so far you wanted to start a company and now want to mix by the liter. Just saying I think a couple of successful mixes has you a bit gung ho. Do you even have enough supplies to mix a liter of your cheesecake? Just my opinion you must remember.
 

zeeter

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Before making major amounts try mixing one and leaving it for a few months to see exactly what you will have after a fewq months. You just got into DIY and so far you wanted to start a company and now want to mix by the liter. Just saying I think a couple of successful mixes has you a bit gung ho. Do you even have enough supplies to mix a liter of your cheesecake? Just my opinion you must remember.

You're crossing posts here.

Yes, I would like to start my own eliquid company, however that's probably not feasible with the FDA getting in the way. Yet that is not the topic of this thread.

I don't know if I have enough supplies to mix a liter. I also didn't say I was going to mix it tonight. There's such thing as a figure of speech, where we say something is so good we'll drink it by the gallon when we don't literally mean that.

The original topic of this thread was about a bad recipe I made which compounded itself when I used essentially the same recipe for four different flavors, only changing the main flavor (donut, choc donut, coffee cake, a second choc to experiment with percentages). We all make bad eliquids when creating flavors. Or if not bad, we make ones that we probably wouldn't share with friends when experimenting with how flavors interact.

This is not my first good flavor; it's just my best flavor. To be honest, it's right up there with any flavor I've purchased. I posted about it here to celebrate a triumph after my earlier failure, which wasn't really a failure as much as a learning experience. I did not post it to be lectured to about getting too excited over a success and don't try mixing too much at once and do I have enough ingredients to support my figurative statement and slow down before mortgaging my house to start my company.
 

SteveS45

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I am not crossing posts I am just bringing up what stands out in my opinion.
 

SteveS45

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Go ahead and make up a liter it will make for some hilarious reading in a few months when you are wondering what happened! There is no answer for personal experience but what you have experienced yourself.
 

zeeter

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Go ahead and make up a liter it will make for some hilarious reading in a few months when you are wondering what happened! There is no answer for personal experience but what you have experienced yourself.

Again - it was a figure of speech. Do you believe anyone who says they're hungry enough to eat a horse actually wants to eat a horse? Dude, I may be newer to these forums but I'm not a moron. Advice is welcome. Condescending advice is not necessary.
 

SteveS45

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You started the thread so son't complain about hearing TRUTH..............
 

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