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HondaDavidson

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Really?

Let's give the US back to the Natives. They predate Europeans. :rolleyes:

Exactly..... that's the point....... I gave several reasons. .. this being the most ridiculous and extreme. And of course intended to draw rolled eyes.......

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How many times did they get up and walk out of the talks?
Israel wasn't happy about it and their goal was always to push them out, however if the Palestinians approach the deal properly they would have achieved those agreements whether Israel wanted it or not.
The globalist were always funding both sides trying to ensure it would be a Sovereign city base from which they would exert control.

Tpat, you know that media that you don't trust? They mis reported the goings on in Israhole too.

Your "facts" are wrong.

Regardless, you have not given one reason why the US should be involved. It doesn't matter who is right and who is wrong. It's their territory, not ours.
 

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It's the ANTI Globalist thing to do....... Tel Aviv is the UN's preferred capital BECAUSE it makes the ISLAMISTS less violent. It's where the Israeli seat of government is. Israel - jews predate palestine - palestinians in the city.
Sorry but the people controlling Israel and the majority are descendants of Khazars, east europeans, ashkenazi's. there are not many jews living in Israel who can trace their roots back to Palestinian. those that can are discriminated against.
 

Tpat591

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Tpat, you know that media that you don't trust? They mis reported the goings on in Israhole too.

Your "facts" are wrong.

Regardless, you have not given one reason why the US should be involved. It doesn't matter who is right and who is wrong. It's their territory, not ours.
Couldn't agree more. Isn't that exactly what Trump is doing? He is dealing with both sides individually and negotiating separately from UN efforts.
 

HondaDavidson

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IMO, one of the biggest misconceptions is that creating a Palestinian state would do something to quell the violence occurring and coming out of the ME. I thought the zionist WERE the globalist?
ZIONIST being a term of propaganda whose definition is dependant on audience. Speaker and date on the calendar. Just like most issues political and religious in nature.

This combines both.

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Couldn't agree more. Isn't that exactly what Trump is doing? He is dealing with both sides individually and negotiating separately from UN efforts.

No. He is taking sides.

I don't see anyone on the other side thanking him for it, lol.
 

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It's the ANTI Globalist thing to do....... Tel Aviv is the UN's preferred capital BECAUSE it makes the ISLAMISTS less violent. It's where the Israeli seat of government is. Israel - jews predate palestine - palestinians in the city.

And Native Americans predate Europeans in the USA as well.
Your point?
 

Tpat591

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No. He is taking sides.

I don't see anyone on the other side thanking him for it, lol.
No, he here did not seek to further delay agreements made by previous administrations while simultaneously delaying their actual implementation to open a window of time during which all sides can negotiate alternatives.

Big difference.
 

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No, he here did not seek to further delay agreements made by previous administrations while simultaneously delaying their actual implementation to open a window of time during which all sides can negotiate alternatives.

Big difference.
Trump seems to have no issues about killing agreements and such made by previous agreements.
In fact he seems eager to do it in most cases.
Paris Accord, Obamacare, Elephant trophy importation, Land preservation, etc...
 

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So if the
No, he here did not seek to further delay agreements made by previous administrations while simultaneously delaying their actual implementation to open a window of time during which all sides can negotiate alternatives.

Big difference.

Amazing that you still believe any kinds of serious negotiations have ever or will ever occur. All they needed was Saudi and the rest of the GCC to be on board and they are on board. This is the "ultimate deal". Trump is either a Zionist or he gave his swarmy little son in law an early christmas present. No cloak and dagger shit here. Examine the historical record its obvious a Palestinian state was never a serious thing.
 

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Trump seems to have no issues about killing agreements and such made by previous agreements.
In fact he seems eager to do it in most cases.
Paris Accord, Obamacare, Elephant trophy importation, Land preservation, etc...
Paris accord was designed to fleece the American Treasury, Obamacare was designed to fleece Americans, Land Reservations were actually set aside as a collateral on Rothschild loans to the treasury, the Elephant thing I am not educated on enough to comment & it confuses me to be honest.
 
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Tpat591

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I will say Trumps Israeli considerations are troubling. He does a lot of things strategically though and most is not how it appears and his end goals when revealed is often quite diffenent than actions would suggest.
 

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No, he here did not seek to further delay agreements made by previous administrations while simultaneously delaying their actual implementation to open a window of time during which all sides can negotiate alternatives.

Big difference.

What part of "fuck all sides" are you not getting?

It's not different. It's putting the US in other countries and peoples business.

You like my posts when I tell the foriegners that come into the thread to tell us what they think of our elections that we don't care what they think and they have no say. But now your telling me it's perfectly fine for you and others to fix other countries problems for them, whether they like it or not?

Come on, you know there is a word for that. I call the liberals out for it all the time. And you like those posts too. :p

This was a dumb move on Trump's part and there was nothing MAGA about it.
 

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Paris accord was designed to fleece the American Treasury, Obamacare was designed to fleece Americans, Land Reservations were actually set aside as a collateral on Rothschild loans to the treasury, the Elephant thing I am not educated on enough to comment & it confuses me to be honest.

Supporting Israhole is designed to fleece the American Treasury. Who do you think pays for Israholes defense? Who do you think is going to pay for the war?
 

Tpat591

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What part of "fuck all sides" are you not getting?

It's not different. It's putting the US in other countries and peoples business.

You like my posts when I tell the foriegners that come into the thread to tell us what they think of our elections that we don't care what they think and they have no say. But now your telling me it's perfectly fine for you and others to fix other countries problems for them, whether they like it or not?

Come on, you know there is a word for that. I call the liberals out for it all the time. And you like those posts too. :p

This was a dumb move on Trump's part and there was nothing MAGA about it.
I'm not fixing anyone's problems. I am recognizing the strategy Trump may be employing to seek a long term solution where as many have pointed out, one was never really seriously sought in the past.
Supporting Israhole is designed to fleece the American Treasury. Who do think pays for Israholes defense? Who do you think is going to pay for the war?
I have log posted that I oppose the Aid to Israel, stated Mossad was responsible for the controlled demolition of WTC on 9-11 (something you deny completely), and have stated many times the AIPAC pledge was swearing alliegence to a foreign government over our own citizens& any congressman signing it should be removed, and Israel should fight its own fucking wars.

What Trump did today was a blow to the NWO making Jerusalem a UN controlled international city and does not preclude an alternate peace agreement from being negotiated by both parties. I'm just saying I think Trump has an end game we are not yet seeing that we will one day look back on and understand.

(I think it has to do with strangling the finances of Sorros and the Rothschilds to eliminate central banking control over the worlds economies. Probably the price BIBI demanded to play ball).

He is pissing off all the right people & Democrats are besides themselves.
 
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Time

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I'm not fixing anyone's problems. I am recognizing the strategy Trump may be employing to seek a long term solution where as many have pointed out, one was never really seriously sought in the past.

I have log posted that I oppose the Aid to Israel, stated Mossad was responsible for the controlled demolition of WTC on 9-11 (something you deny completely), and have stated many times the AIPAC pledge was swearing alliegence to a foreign government over our own citizens& any congressman signing it should be removed, and Israel should fight its own fucking wars.

What Trump did today was a blow to the NWO making Jerusalem a UN controlled international city and does not preclude an alternate peace agreement from being negotiated by both parties. I'm just saying I think Trump has an end game we are not yet seeing that we will one day look back on and understand.

(I think it has to do with strangling the finances of Sorros and the Rothschilds to eliminate central banking control over the worlds economies).

Trump is just a man.

This announcement is not a new strategy. All he did was confirm that the old strategy is still in play. Clinton passed the law that declared Jerusalem the capitol. He just didn't announce it as such and Presidents ever since have signed a waiver to move our embassy to the capital, Jerusalem.

Trump could have VETO'd any UN resolution. The US has been VETOing UN resolutions for Israel for years. The UN is moot when the US wants the UN to be moot. We have veto power. That means Trump has veto power.

All Trump did was tell the world that we are Israholes pitbull. Openly. We used to deny it, Trump just made it even more obvious.
 

HondaDavidson

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No. He is taking sides.

I don't see anyone on the other side thanking him for it, lol.

He's a Jewish GRANDPA..... You thought he was neutral on this one? You thought he would take any other side? Your blinded by prejudice.

Don't be Sheople... have an OPEN mind.
 

Time

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He's a Jewish GRANDPA..... You thought he was neutral on this one? You thought he would take any other side? Your blinded by prejudice.

Don't be Sheople... have an OPEN mind.

Who said I thought he'd take any other side? Don't put words in my mouth.

None of that blather takes away the fact that it was a fucking stupid move. You're just making excuses.

I like Trump over Hitlery, but the man isn't a god. He has faults and does stupid shit. This was one of them. If you want to act like Trump is infallible, go ahead. It doesn't do a damn thing to improve your intelligence.

When he does something stupid, I'm going to say it was fucking stupid. Not make excuses for him.
 
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HondaDavidson

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Who said I thought he'd take any other side? Don't put words in my mouth.

None of that blather takes away the fact that it was a fucking stupid move. You're just making excuses.

I like Trump over Hitlery, but the man isn't a god. He has faults and does stupid shit. This was one of them. If you want to act like Trump is infallible, go ahead. It doesn't do a damn thing to improve your intelligence.

When he does something stupid, I'm going to say it was fucking stupid. Not make excuses for him.
I agree with everything Said here...

Just not convinced moving embassy to the same city as seats of government is such stupid move.....

Would you like foreign embassies to the US to be in San Francisco rather that DC.


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I agree with everything Said here...

Just not convinced moving embassy to the same city as seats of government is such stupid move.....

Would you like foreign embassies to the US to be in San Francisco rather that DC.


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I missed something. Who else is claiming ownership of DC? Who is disputing that DC is our Capitol?

Your analogy would work better if you asked if I'd like our Capitol to be Baghdad, a city we recently took by force. I tend to think some people, namely the ones that lived there, would object. Even if Israhole said it was okay. ;)

Tel Aviv was Israholes Capitol when the Brits Gave it to a yet to exist Israhole. That they decided to move to contested territory doesn't mean we have to fucking follow like dogs. Israhole can move it's legilative branch back to Tel Aviv if they want countries embassies to be close.
 
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WASHINGTON — The United States agreed Wednesday to provide Israel a record $38 billion in new military aid over the next decade. The pact is a sign of the two nations' close alliance despite major differences over Iran's nuclear program and other policies.

The agreement, which equates to $3.8 billion a year, is the largest bilateral military aid package ever and includes $5 billion for missile defense, additional F-35 joint strike fighters and increased mobility for its ground forces.
 

Time

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So, you really think Isreal has some plan to quadruple it's size and spread it's borders into saudi arabia...I find that pretty far fetched.

Meh. I think they've been pretty open about it. You just have to look beyond pro israhole propaganda. All the information on Israhole is public. Call it an open secret or whatever.

That's a jewish site not some horseshit from the KKK.
 

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I don't see much sense in moving the capital to jeruselam....but let's face it who cares....well the Jews care, because it is central to their religon....and the muslims care because it is central to their religon.....this has little to do with Palastine and Isreal coming to some sort of accord, this has to do with the rest of the muslim world who don't live in either Palastine or Isreal and who are not effected by it, not willing to see their holy shrine in the hands of non muslims Jews or otherwise....and it has to do with the worldwide Jewery many who have massive influence in the bussiness and political world of the west demanding ownership of Jerusalem....this has little to do with Palastine and Isreal coming to peace....why this is my problem is not so clear.

The final and last word of God, the one and only God and MoMo is his prophet...VS.....the Chosen People......
 
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Meh. I think they've been pretty open about it. You just have to look beyond pro israhole propaganda. All the information on Israhole is public. Call it an open secret or whatever.
Oh come.... on the rest of the world is not gonna be having any part in that...whose gonna stand with Isreal trying to gobble saudi arabia....nobody..... you aren't gonna sell that to anyone.
 

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I don't see much sense in moving the capital to jeruselam....but let's face it who cares....well the Jews care, because it is central to their religon....and the muslims care because it is central to their religon.....this has little to do with Palastine and Isreal coming to some sort of accord, this has to do with the rest of the muslim world who don't live in either Palastine or Isreal and who are not effected by it, not willing to see their holy shrine in the hands of non muslims Jews or otherwise....and it has to do with the worldwide Jewery many who have massive influence in the bussiness and political world of the west demanding ownership of Jerusalem....this has little to do with Palastine and Isreal coming to peace....why this is my problem is not so clear.

I don't care. I think Israhole can do whatever it wants. But it needs to do it without the US. And that means their little postage stamp of a country would indeed be annihilated. I'm fine with that too.
 

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I don't care. I think Israhole can do whatever it wants. But it needs to do it without the US. And that means their little postage stamp of a country would indeed be annihilated. I'm fine with that too.
yeah well you could say that Saudi Arabia and Egypt could also be annihilated pretty easily without American Jets and rockets just as well.....I believe the Arab leauge tried that once ...or twice.
 

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Oh come.... on the rest of the world is not gonna be having any part in that...whose gonna stand with Isreal trying to gobble saudi arabia....nobody..... you aren't gonna sell that to anyone.

Heh. They have stood for it so far. They've taken land from Jordon, Egypt, Syria,,,,,,,,,,,,,,;)

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Heh. They have stood for it so far. ;)

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you're reaching here Time....the rest of the world is not going to see any reason to support Isreal if it trys and claims some divine plain to take saudi lands.....it just ain't happening....it's a non issue ...the idea is absurd.
 

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you're reaching here Time....the rest of the world is not going to see any reason to support Isreal if it trys and claims some divine plain to take saudi lands.....it just ain't happening....it's a non issue ...the idea is absurd.

Why that Israel has to do what it can to make the Muslims appear to be the big threat.
So they can get backing...
Well that and their influence on Christians thru the book they wrote.
 

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Israel, Saudi and Egypt and forming partnerships and if they can keep the current puppets in power, Israel will be able to expand as far as they like. There is nothing stopping them. Egyptian and Saudi state sponsored clerics are already coming out and saying 1) god gave the land of Israel to the Jews 2) Palestinians are invented people 3) it's against Islam to resist them. I'm sure you haven't seen it on Alex Jones or brightbart but it's really happening.

@pulsevape , this also has to do with fanatic Christians and Jews who don't live anywhere near any of these shrines but somehow feel it's their business based on a book of fairy tales.
 

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you're reaching here Time....the rest of the world is not going to see any reason to support Isreal if it trys and claims some divine plain to take saudi lands.....it just ain't happening....it's a non issue ...the idea is absurd.

Did you look at the link I posted? That's happening
 
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