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Time

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you're reaching here Time....the rest of the world is not going to see any reason to support Isreal if it trys and claims some divine plain to take saudi lands.....it just ain't happening....it's a non issue ...the idea is absurd.

I'm sure you're right. I remember when the world made Israhole stop illegal settlements. Wait,,,,,,,,,,,,Israhole is still building illegal settlements. Well, I remember when the world demanded an inspection of Israholes nukes that it isn't supposed to have. That was as big in the news as NK and Iran, and Libya and Iraq. Wait,,,,,,,,,,,,,,that didn't happen either, though everybody knows they have nukes. Oh well, I remember when the world sanctioned Israhole for bombing other countries like Syria, Jordan, Egypt. Damn, no sanctions either. In fact, in some US states there are laws against even personally boycotting Israhole.

But yeah, you're probably right.The world will keep Israhole in check. :teehee:
 

Carmmond

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Israel, Saudi and Egypt and forming partnerships and if they can keep the current puppets in power, Israel will be able to expand as far as they like. There is nothing stopping them. Egyptian and Saudi state sponsored clerics are already coming out and saying 1) god gave the land of Israel to the Jews 2) Palestinians are invented people 3) it's against Islam to resist them. I'm sure you haven't seen it on Alex Jones or brightbart but it's really happening.

@pulsevape , this also has to do with fanatic Christians and Jews who don't live anywhere near any of these shrines but somehow feel it's their business based on a book of fairy tales.
You lost me at " a book of fairy tales"..... the whole dam world has been bending over to how the Palestinians have felt for years and were has it gotten us! You put the Jews in one city block and they will still try to blow it up and say it's their fault!
 

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You lost me at " a book of fairy tales"..... the whole dam world has been bending over to how the Palestinians have felt for years and were has it gotten us! You put the Jews in one city block and they will still try to blow it up and say it's their fault!
Well then stay lost my friend. Maybe if you keep praying you'll get led out of the desert like Moses.
 

Time

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You put the Jews in one city block and they will still try to blow it up and say it's their fault!

You put the Zionists in one city block they'll goad the Palestinians into throwing rocks in and THEN the Zionists will take two more city blocks.

Tried an true method. Usually they beat the dog shit out of a Palestinian kid and wait for the Palestinians to throw rocks. Then they bomb the whole fucking Gaza. That's how the last one started.

Good read here;

The Origin of the Palestine-Israel Conflict
http://ifamericaknew.org/history/origin.html
 

Carmmond

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You put the Zionists in one city block they'll goad the Palestinians into throwing rocks in and THEN the Zionists will take two more city blocks.

Tried an true method. Usually they beat the dog shit out of a Palestinian kid and wait for the Palestinians to throw rocks. Then they bomb the whole fucking Gaza. That's how the last one started.

Good read here;

The Origin of the Palestine-Israel Conflict
http://ifamericaknew.org/history/origin.html
I'll read it this weekend but coming out of Berkeley this will take some time.
Thanks for the link.
 

Tpat591

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pulsevape

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Israel, Saudi and Egypt and forming partnerships and if they can keep the current puppets in power, Israel will be able to expand as far as they like. There is nothing stopping them. Egyptian and Saudi state sponsored clerics are already coming out and saying 1) god gave the land of Israel to the Jews 2) Palestinians are invented people 3) it's against Islam to resist them. I'm sure you haven't seen it on Alex Jones or brightbart but it's really happening.

@pulsevape , this also has to do with fanatic Christians and Jews who don't live anywhere near any of these shrines but somehow feel it's their business based on a book of fairy tales.
did you bother reading what you wrote......Isreal,Saudi, and egypt are forming partnerships........so the Saudis are forming a partnership with Isrreal, so that Isreal can take over Saudi lands.......you see a flaw in your logic.....as for fundamentalist christians...hell they don't have enough political power to keep homosexuals out of the boyscouts or fauxtrans out of their public toliets...I'm not seeing them swing a whole lot of influence on the global stage.
 
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pulsevape

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I'm sure you're right. I remember when the world made Israhole stop illegal settlements. Wait,,,,,,,,,,,,Israhole is still building illegal settlements. Well, I remember when the world demanded an inspection of Israholes nukes that it isn't supposed to have. That was as big in the news as NK and Iran, and Libya and Iraq. Wait,,,,,,,,,,,,,,that didn't happen either, though everybody knows they have nukes. Oh well, I remember when the world sanctioned Israhole for bombing other countries like Syria, Jordan, Egypt. Damn, no sanctions either. In fact, in some US states there are laws against even personally boycotting Israhole.

But yeah, you're probably right.The world will keep Israhole in check. :teehee:
I rememeber when the KIng of Jordan killed more Palastinians than Isreal ever did ....and nobody said boo.
 

Carmmond

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Told you all in May this is what was going to happen......

"I know what they are trying to do because I watched it in WI.... they just want to take it to a national level!
http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/0...l-blown-anti-conservative-fishing-expedition/

http://legalinsurrection.com/2016/0...vative-witch-hunt-enters-new-level-of-sleaze/

They are acting the same way over the Trump election as they did Walkers.... throwing a temper tantrum now on to step two being that failed.

I'm telling you this is deja vu."
Nut bags are crazy!
Just an update for you all if you have time listen to this... the crap that went down in WI did spill into a national level I believe because one of the persons involved in WI's witch hunt moved on to the next level! I posted about it in June.
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/139-...19/episode/12617-john-doe-gab-story-28719995/

I made a post about this a long time ago and this shit is big time corrupt!
 

pulsevape

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You put the Zionists in one city block they'll goad the Palestinians into throwing rocks in and THEN the Zionists will take two more city blocks.

Tried an true method. Usually they beat the dog shit out of a Palestinian kid and wait for the Palestinians to throw rocks. Then they bomb the whole fucking Gaza. That's how the last one started.

Good read here;

The Origin of the Palestine-Israel Conflict
http://ifamericaknew.org/history/origin.html
enough with the "poor innocent Palastian stuff...Yasir Arafat died the single richest world leader on the planet,,by how?.saving stamps at the Safeway??...by bleeding his own people to death, by making absolutely sure they suffered.... he profited immensely from the fact that there was never any sort of lasting peace. it put dollars and cents into his swiss bank accounts..period........just like Chavez just like Maduro.

When I was young I hitchhiked for 6 weeks through Ireland back in the 70's.....at that time there were English troops in armoured vehicles and razor wire in the streets of Belfast. I went to one of the border counties and it was insane...men just hanging around the streets and in alleyways just watching,,,not working, not sitting in a pub just watching....the hills had stone signs plastered across them ..."Fuck H Block"...Fuck the Provos......the first wekk I caught a ride with an electrican heading out of Dublin....I started asking him about "the troubles"..I discovered he almost despised the IRA as much as the English...this was a shock to me that an Irishman would despise the IRA.....later I worked with many Irishmen and alot of them from Ulster...I learned that at that time Belfast made Beruit look homey....the stuff those guys witnessed was war zone stuff.....I worked with guys from the border counties and I learned that the IRA had devolved into a crime syndicate....they would hide in towns just accross the border, and make forays into the North, in those towns they were a law unto themselves...if they saw something they wanted they took it, if they saw a woman they wanted her boyfriends got beat sensless..I think when the IRA was fighting the British Army in the streets of Dublin on Easter or the streets of Derry and Belfast with the army the were respected by the people. but whne they started blowing up innocent kids in London, and slapping their own countrymen around to feather their nests....they lost the support of the people....I think there are way too many Palastinians profiting from the suffering in Palastine.
 

Time

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I rememeber when the KIng of Jordan killed more Palastinians than Isreal ever did ....and nobody said boo.

Of course nobody said boo. It benefited the Zionists. The Zionists didn't want anybody to say boo, so nobody said boo.
 

pulsevape

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Of course nobody said boo. It benefited the Zionists. The Zionists didn't want anybody to say boo, so nobody said boo.
nobody in the Muslim world said boo....the Palastinaisn were on the verge of toppeling his goverment and do to Jordan what they did to Lebanon....and make it a terrorist base......no Arab leader would have done anything differnt than what the Jordanians did...I'm pretty sure the KIng of Jordan is NOT a closet zionist.
 

Time

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enough with the "poor innocent Palastian stuff...Yasir Arafat died the single richest world leader on the planet,,by how?.saving stamps at the Safeway??...by bleeding his own people to death, by making absolutely sure they suffered.... he profited immensely from the fact that there was never any sort of lasting peace. it put dollars and cents into his swiss bank accounts..period........just like Chavez just like Maduro.

Um, so what?

That's not my problem either.

Israhole is not my problem. Palestine is not my problem. Their both fucks.

I'm bashing Israhole not fucking marrying Palestine. :p
 

Time

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nobody in the Muslim world said boo....the Palastinaisn were on the verge of toppeling his goverment and do to Jordan what they did to Lebanon....and make it a terrorist base......no Arab leader would have done anything differnt than what the Jordanians did...I'm pretty sure the KIng of Jordan is NOT a closet zionist.

Again, so what?

I don't give a shit what arabs and muslims do in their own part of the world. I don't care what Israhole does. Just leave the US out.
 

pulsevape

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Um, so what?

That's not my problem either.

Israhole is not my problem. Palestine is not my problem. Their both fucks.

I'm bashing Israhole not fucking marrying Palestine. :p
my point was in refrence to your assertion that the Zionists would goad poor Palastinaian childeren intio throwing rocks.....like the race grifting industry in the US, the various crime syndicates who hide under the banner of freedom fighters that took by blood leadrship of Palastine see no real profit in Peace...they are more likely to be goading people into violence than anyone else it keeps them in power.....if peace ever did happen either in Palastine or the ghettos of Chicago Hamas and jesse jackson would both be left with peddeling mexican porno out of the trunks of their cars in order to feed themselves.

regardless ...You are right @Time it's not an American problem....we are a Christian nation and so culturally we identify with the Jews...but I'm not really sure how a bunch of Ashkenazis from Khazaria without a drop of semetic blood can lay claim to Jeruselam...it would be like a bunch of Aborigine baptists from Qeensland laying claim to Rome and the Vatican....on the other hand the Elephant in the room is .....what part Islam plays in this problem, the fact that according to Islam any lands conquered during the Muslim Imperialisim are forever and always muslim.....this is the grounds that the Islamic world really hates the Isrealis...they still see Isreal not as Palastinan land but Muslim land.
 
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Tpat591

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Again, so what?

I don't give a shit what arabs and muslims do in their own part of the world. I don't care what Israhole does. Just leave the US out.
With all due respect, Trump's announcement does exactly that - Palestinians will now seek their peace process through the UN as they will now view us as partial to Israel IMHO. I'm ok with that.

It ain't our problem.
 

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fter the Second World War, the State of Israel was established and gradually recognized ‘de jure’ — or lawfully — by most of the world’s countries. However, although the U.N. recognized the state of Israel in 1948, allowing it to become a member state, it placed the whole city of Jerusalem under international control (a ‘corpus separatum’) on Dec. 13 1949. Despite this, most governmental offices moved to the city.

But in 1967, during the Six-Day War, Israel captured the eastern section of Jerusalem, which Jordan presided over, and declared Israeli law, jurisdiction and administration would be applied to the whole city. Israel’s occupation of East Jerusalem has been considered illegal under international law and was condemned by the U.N., as well as other states.


In 1980, the Knesset declared that “Jerusalem, complete and united, is the capital of Israel,” but this law was declared null by the U.N., which called for the removal of the remaining embassies in the city. A statement from Israel’s Foreign Ministry called the resolution “unjust” and “additional proof that the U.N. organization has been converted into an instrument in the hands of Israel’s enemies in their war against her existence and independence.”

Countries continued to locate their foreign embassies in Tel Aviv, Israel’s second largest city, situated on the Mediterranean coast, and the refusal to recognize Jerusalem as Israeli territory has become a near-universal policy among Western nations. To this day, no countries have an embassy in Jerusalem although Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Donald Trump have all called for moving the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem. Both Clinton and Bush backpedaled once they were in the Oval Office—but Trump seems to be signaling he is willing to do what they would not.

This from the magazine that Trump wants to be person of the year for :)
http://time.com/4604739/david-friedman-jerusalem-jewish-israel/

So the USA would be the ONLY foreign embassy in Jerusalem?

The USA will be the first suckers?
I can see where this might just piss off others besides the Jews that consider this a holy city for them as well...

Perhaps Israel instead of Russia influenced the election?
 

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Tpat591

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fter the Second World War, the State of Israel was established and gradually recognized ‘de jure’ — or lawfully — by most of the world’s countries. However, although the U.N. recognized the state of Israel in 1948, allowing it to become a member state, it placed the whole city of Jerusalem under international control (a ‘corpus separatum’) on Dec. 13 1949. Despite this, most governmental offices moved to the city.

But in 1967, during the Six-Day War, Israel captured the eastern section of Jerusalem, which Jordan presided over, and declared Israeli law, jurisdiction and administration would be applied to the whole city. Israel’s occupation of East Jerusalem has been considered illegal under international law and was condemned by the U.N., as well as other states.


In 1980, the Knesset declared that “Jerusalem, complete and united, is the capital of Israel,” but this law was declared null by the U.N., which called for the removal of the remaining embassies in the city. A statement from Israel’s Foreign Ministry called the resolution “unjust” and “additional proof that the U.N. organization has been converted into an instrument in the hands of Israel’s enemies in their war against her existence and independence.”

Countries continued to locate their foreign embassies in Tel Aviv, Israel’s second largest city, situated on the Mediterranean coast, and the refusal to recognize Jerusalem as Israeli territory has become a near-universal policy among Western nations. To this day, no countries have an embassy in Jerusalem although Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Donald Trump have all called for moving the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem. Both Clinton and Bush backpedaled once they were in the Oval Office—but Trump seems to be signaling he is willing to do what they would not.

This from the magazine that Trump wants to be person of the year for :)
http://time.com/4604739/david-friedman-jerusalem-jewish-israel/

So the USA would be the ONLY foreign embassy in Jerusalem?

The USA will be the first suckers?
I can see where this might just piss off others besides the Jews that consider this a holy city for them as well...

Perhaps Israel instead of Russia influenced the election?
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pulsevape

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The whole existence of Isreal pivots on the Rothschild strong arming the English for a loan the british badly needed to fight a war that Rothschild engineered.and the Holocaust which has become the club the zionists have beat the western world over the head with.....It is one of the reasons I feel we must really push back against the powers that won't allow true and accurate research about the Holocaust to be freely available and stop jailing scholars researching it, because if it is freely researched I have a feeling that the zionists and Isreal will find that the world may realign alot of it's views....however they won't allow it, because the natural question will arise......who covered up the truth and why did they do it..
 
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But the Jews are Gods chosen children!

At least that is what Jews wrote down long ago.

Their greatest strength is their long view...

Few if any other countrys or groups have it.
 

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I missed something. Who else is claiming ownership of DC? Who is disputing that DC is our Capitol?

Your analogy would work better if you asked if I'd like our Capitol to be Baghdad, a city we recently took by force. I tend to think some people, namely the ones that lived there, would object. Even if Israhole said it was okay. ;)

Tel Aviv was Israholes Capitol when the Brits Gave it to a yet to exist Israhole. That they decided to move to contested territory doesn't mean we have to fucking follow like dogs. Israhole can move it's legilative branch back to Tel Aviv if they want countries embassies to be close.


Come on keep up with your own arguments.... the NATIVES you referenced earlier have in fact sued for return of DC. Granted they don't see it as a capital. But then Tel Aviv was not and never was the capital of the Israelis... It was the capital as established FOR the Israel by the INTERNATIONAL community. Tel Aviv is the GLOBALIST capital of the Zionist state.
 

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Come on keep up with your own arguments.... the NATIVES you referenced earlier have in fact sued for return of DC. Granted they don't see it as a capital. But then Tel Aviv was not and never was the capital of the Israelis... It was the capital as established FOR the Israel by the INTERNATIONAL community. Tel Aviv is the GLOBALIST capital of the Zionist state.
The Jewish people have a LONG history of being conquered by other people for their own sins according the their Bible.
Who is to say it is not time again for it?
Gods will?

They sold themselves into indentured servitude with the Egyptians.
Then went back and killed all those they could that had moved in during their absence.
Their leaders had the Romans Kill Jesus...

IMHO the bible does not portray them as a good people.

LOL and they wrote the Bible so they were probably worse than they wrote down :)

I feel that the USA owes them nothing other than to leave them alone to succeed or not on their own.
 
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Time

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my point was in refrence to your assertion that the Zionists would goad poor Palastinaian childeren intio throwing rocks.....like the race grifting industry in the US, the various crime syndicates who hide under the banner of freedom fighters that took by blood leadrship of Palastine see no real profit in Peace...they are more likely to be goading people into violence than anyone else it keeps them in power.....if peace ever did happen either in Palastine or the ghettos of Chicago Hamas and jesse jackson would both be left with peddeling mexican porno out of the trunks of their cars in order to feed themselves.

regardless ...You are right @Time it's not an American problem....we are a Christian nation and so culturally we identify with the Jews...but I'm not really sure how a bunch of Ashkenazis from Khazaria without a drop of semetic blood can lay claim to Jeruselam...it would be like a bunch of Aborigine baptists from Qeensland laying claim to Rome and the Vatican....on the other hand the Elephant in the room is .....what part Islam plays in this problem, the fact that according to Islam any lands conquered during the Muslim Imperialisim are forever and always muslim.....this is the grounds that the Islamic world really hates the Isrealis...they still see Isreal not as Palastinan land but Muslim land.

I don't care what part Islam plays.

As far as I'm concerned, the Zionists and Arabs and Muslims are all goat fuckers fighting over the goats in the ME. I don't care who wins. Secure our borders and let 'em go at it.

Now in the US, I have a different view. As long as everybody abides by our laws, jews can be jews, muslims can be muslims and arabs can be arabs. But over there, they are on their own.
 

Time

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With all due respect, Trump's announcement does exactly that - Palestinians will now seek their peace process through the UN as they will now view us as partial to Israel IMHO. I'm ok with that.

It ain't our problem.

They were doing that already. That is what got Flynn in trouble. He tried to get Russia to veto the process. Not illegal to do, it was the lying that got him busted. Trump isn't trying to get Palestine to work through the UN. What kind of sense does that make? Crater Flynn to crater the Palestininians in the UN for the Palestinians own good? WTF?
 

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I don't care what part Islam plays.

As far as I'm concerned, the Zionists and Arabs and Muslims are all goat fuckers fighting over the goats in the ME. I don't care who wins. Secure our borders and let 'em go at it.

Now in the US, I have a different view. As long as everybody abides by our laws, jews can be jews, muslims can be muslims and arabs can be arabs. But over there, they are on their own.
I agree I don't like seeing dollars or blood going over there....it's there party....meanwhile while Trump is moving the capital to Jerusealm I read that the GOP just oooooooooops made a slight clerical error (if you believe that load of shit)and is giving child tax credits to illegal aliens....Trump needs to STFU about the ME and focus on the border.and deportations buses being well maintained., and sanctuary cities are being shut down...or is AIPAC more important than Americans.
 

Time

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Come on keep up with your own arguments.... the NATIVES you referenced earlier have in fact sued for return of DC. Granted they don't see it as a capital. But then Tel Aviv was not and never was the capital of the Israelis... It was the capital as established FOR the Israel by the INTERNATIONAL community. Tel Aviv is the GLOBALIST capital of the Zionist state.

LOL. The Zionists chose Tel Aviv.

You making up shit on the fly is only good in your own head. Fuck Israhole and fuck their capitol.
 

Tpat591

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They were doing that already. That is what got Flynn in trouble. He tried to get Russia to veto the process. Not illegal to do, it was the lying that got him busted. Trump isn't trying to get Palestine to work through the UN. What kind of sense does that make? Crater Flynn to crater the Palestininians in the UN for the Palestinians own good? WTF?
They cratered Flynn both to serve as a distraction & bait for swamp creatures. They charged him to get around his security oath NDA preventing him from testifying against the crimes he was aware of the previous administration regularly committing.

Flynn was always going to be the plug that needed to be pulled to drain the swamp. They fell for it hook line & sinker and committed a lot more crimes along the way in the process giving trusted investigators the time they needed to nail down the evidence.
 

Time

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http://news.antiwar.com/2017/12/06/trump-calls-on-saudis-to-end-yemen-blockade/

All the BS aside, good for him. I hope those fuckers listen and lift the blockade.

They had already lifted some of it. I agree with this report.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-...rders-saudis-‘immediately’-end-yemen-blockade

As Middle East analyst Hassan Hassan says, it appears that today's statement on Yemen is no doubt connected with what many described as the strong and vehement reaction to the earlier Jerusalem recognition move by both King Salman and MBS. "This sounds like a tit-for-tat statement concerning the Jerusalem move. What happened suddenly for this administration to care about Yemenis, esp given recent news the Saudi-led Coalition lifted some of the blockade?" observed Hassan Hassan shortly after the release of the Yemen directive.
 

Time

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like Time said it's their bussiness....not ours...I'd just as soon Trump tells Mexico to go fuck themselves and blockade those bastards....instead of stuff half a world away.

Sort of. We've been helping Saudi do the blockade. This is a reversal of that and I think it's because Saudi didn't back Trump with Israhole.

Trump burnt bridges today. For Israhole.
 

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Sort of. We've been helping Saudi do the blockade. This is a reversal of that and I think it's because Saudi didn't back Trump with Israhole.

Trump burnt bridges today. For Israhole.
I doubt he burnt any bridges....maybe put some noses out of place,but the saudis have a pretty tight relationship with DC , sounds more like bargining..actually I wouldn't be surprised to see Trump backpeddle on this move to jeruselam idea.... if he spends much more time or energy on it he's gonna piss off his base, most of whom could care less where the embassy is....I think the House of Saud is more interested in the House of Saud than they are in Islam...they want to protect themselves at all costs, and America has been pretty instumental protecting the house of saud.
 

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Sort of. We've been helping Saudi do the blockade. This is a reversal of that and I think it's because Saudi didn't back Trump with Israhole.

Trump burnt bridges today. For Israhole.
Fuck Israel....... a bunch of those bridges needed to be burned........

And nobody that has been paying attention.... should be surprised...

yeah ME will burn some flags and dolls for awhile.

So fucking what Donald didn't run to make the ME happy.......

Oh and he is just following current US law....... Congress name Jerusalem the capital in 1995. HE didn't actually CHANGE any US policy.

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Time

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I doubt he burnt any bridges....maybe put some noses out of place,but the saudis have a pretty tight relationship with DC , sounds more like bargining..actually I wouldn't be surprised to see Trump backpeddle on this move to jeruselam idea.... if he spends much more time or energy on it he's gonna piss off his base, most of whom could care less where the embassy is.

He just bitch slapped Saudi with the Jerusalem thing then wacked 'em with a backhand on yemen as an after thought for whining about it.
 
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