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Fuck Jai Haze and his fan boys and girls. He's nothing more than a fucking drama queen and a flat out liar on many occasions. Have you seen his FB posts? Nothing but a shitload of sheeple responses. He handled what was a simple mistake in a highly unprofessional way and blew it entirely way out of proportion.
 

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The testing here is not a Metallurgical Analysis, just testing Resistance and Magnetic properties does not give conclusive results.
 

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I keep trying to finish the video...could he not just say "hey I have a bunch of spools that are labeled kanthal but are not kanthal?" Does it take half an hour? I'm impressed Kidney Puncher's director had the patience to listen to Jai give himself a huge introduction and then explain how and why kanthal is magnetic like he needs to educate the director of Kidney Puncher

"My kanthal wire from you is not kanthal, please fix this" bam, done, and did he call/email on a Saturday or Sunday? Come on.

Jesus Christ. Pretty sure Kidney Puncher will replace any mislabeled spools. The way Jai Haze went about this is just so...tacky.

I slogged through to hear the director's response, and sounded like he had a solution. Then Jai interrupted him at least twice. Can't do it, can't listen to Jai for another single minute.

I've never bought Kidney Puncher and I AM allergic to nickel - if I had this issue, I'd return the nichrome (shipping on them, like the director stated) and get it fixed (like the director stated). Not be an attention whore and post a freaking youtube video about it.
 
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Fuck Jai Haze and his fan boys and girls. He's nothing more than a fucking drama queen and a flat out liar on many occasions. Have you seen his FB posts? Nothing but a shitload of sheeple responses. He handled what was a simple mistake in a highly unprofessional way and blew it entirely way out of proportion.
I liked Jai Haze better before she hit menopause, and started living with 117 cats ,all called Mister Jingles..
 

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Fuck Jai Haze and his fan boys and girls. He's nothing more than a fucking drama queen and a flat out liar on many occasions. Have you seen his FB posts? Nothing but a shitload of sheeple responses. He handled what was a simple mistake in a highly unprofessional way and blew it entirely way out of proportion.
Did you see this Neanderthals review of the Golden Greeks TAE atty...he couldn't figure out how to put the thing together, and so he started trashing Imeo..LOL...Imeo was building world class vape gear when this dimwit was vaping twisted 28 gauge in his IGO-L around a silica wick.
 

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I used to enjoy his reviews but now... meh I won't bother watching the video. I watched him have a complete childish meltdown in his mage 2 review and lost all respect for the big toddler.

Mistakes happen and in manufacturing it will happen because sometimes humans make mistakes.

My personal experience with Kidney Puncher wire has been fantastic. The wire was exactly what I ordered and never a kink, twist or snag throughout the entire spool. Based on that I will continue to get my wire from Kidney Puncher.

Fuck haze, his ego and his drama. Seriously, he has psychological issues and needs therapy.
 

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Fuck Jai Haze and his fan boys and girls. He's nothing more than a fucking drama queen and a flat out liar on many occasions. Have you seen his FB posts? Nothing but a shitload of sheeple responses. He handled what was a simple mistake in a highly unprofessional way and blew it entirely way out of proportion.

Yeah, I did not watch the vid or the other thread by the OP about this in another forum - the guy is a disaster; not very skilled and a flat our jerk
 

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Fuck Jai Haze and his fan boys and girls. He's nothing more than a fucking drama queen and a flat out liar on many occasions. Have you seen his FB posts? Nothing but a shitload of sheeple responses. He handled what was a simple mistake in a highly unprofessional way and blew it entirely way out of proportion.
I agree with you not a fan of Jai but just wanted to adivse anyone getting wire from them as he had a couple hundred rolls that were incorrect and someone with nickel issues isn't going to test the wire if they purchased it thinking it was kanthal

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Mistake or not, like the guy or not

if it was mislabelled it’s good to let people know they might be vaping on nickel no?

I know we have a few people about who are allergic to it and can only use kanthal
 

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Dunno about a couple hundred... looked more like 20 at most, hard to follow because he said "these are all bad" then really quickly and quietly "except the ones in plastic bags" which looked to be about 9/10ths of that first tub

and then "and these are all nichrome" - I had to pause the video and look, and they were all labeled nichrome, as far as I could make out :/

I'm allergic to nickel, I can figure out if something has it after about 3 puffs, that's my test lol

hey...thanks for sharing though, I don't mean to seem indignant at your share, just indignant about that jai guy and his weirdly cultish fanbase
 

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That's the only reason I was sharing, I'm not a fan of Jai myself, just wanted to let people know
Mistake or not, like the guy or not

if it was mislabelled it’s good to let people know they might be vaping on nickel no?

I know we have a few people about who are allergic to it and can only use kanthal

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someone with nickel issues isn't going to test the wire if they purchased it thinking it was kanthal

If someone is going to proclaim the composition of the material it should be properly tested not just using a magnet or an Ohm Meter.

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That's the only reason I was sharing, I'm not a fan of Jai myself, just wanted to let people know

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Thanks for the share, don’t worry if it wasn’t you it would have been one of the mod team or another member :cheers:

Hopefully there will be a follow up with a response from Kidney Puncher
 

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Yeah I'll just still to Temco for my wire lol
Thanks for the share, don’t worry if it wasn’t you it would have been one of the mod team or another member :cheers:

Hopefully there will be a follow up with a response from Kidney Puncher

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I know KP wire is highly regarded certainly in our very own build thread.

Personally I hope this is just a single batch or just a non story, either way it can’t hurt to call them out and see what they say.

When people pay top dollar for wire they expect to be using what’s advertised.

Allergic reaction is one thing, building straight on a mech (god forbid) thinking it’s kanthal when in fact it’s N80 is not a great situation either.
 

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Mistake or not, like the guy or not

if it was mislabelled it’s good to let people know they might be vaping on nickel no?

I know we have a few people about who are allergic to it and can only use kanthal
Me, but I use ss because of that, I know it contains a little but its working fine for me so far. Hope nobody got ill or worse due to that unintentionally? mess up at KP. I shop with AVS for a reason :D
 

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Dunno about a couple hundred... looked more like 20 at most, hard to follow because he said "these are all bad" then really quickly and quietly "except the ones in plastic bags" which looked to be about 9/10ths of that first tub

and then "and these are all nichrome" - I had to pause the video and look, and they were all labeled nichrome, as far as I could make out :/

I'm allergic to nickel, I can figure out if something has it after about 3 puffs, that's my test lol

hey...thanks for sharing though, I don't mean to seem indignant at your share, just indignant about that jai guy and his weirdly cultish fanbase
What are your symptoms Meg? I gave up SS because I would get horrible dry mouth, a headache and my gums would bleed when I brushed my teeth. Went back to Kanthal and no problems at all.
 

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What are your symptoms Meg? I gave up SS because I would get horrible dry mouth, a headache and my gums would bleed when I brushed my teeth. Went back to Kanthal and no problems at all.

I get a sore throat, swollen lymph nodes in my neck, and a general "I feel like I'm getting sick" feeling - SS does this to me over a few days, nichrome does it within half an hour of vaping, and it gets worse even after I stop. Takes about a day to feel well again if I vape nichrome more than a handful of times
 

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@Jai Haze
WTF is wrong with you.
I have watched some of your videos etc, and you aren't everyone's cup of tea but you are what you are.

Put yourself in the place of the owner of KP for one minute. A customer goes and prepares an attack video on your company BEFORE calling you and giving you a chance to fix a mistake. And less than 24 hours for an email is not sufficient time, especially if you publish this on Monday and you say in your video you sent it less then 1 day earlier which would be SUNDAY, not a business day.

If this was you truly looking out for people, then show your tests. Say you are working to get with Kidney puncher to resolve this issue, offer vapelife customers a solution, show people how to test if their KP kathal is Kanthal and be done PSA over. Then give some appropriate time, make a phone call or 3 and work with a company you have built a relationship with for what 4 years a chance to fix a mistake. Then post an update. personally if I owned a company you bought from, I would probably close you account just to avoid you acting like this if my company made a mistake with your order one day.

Let's look at it this way say Grimm or someone equally as big got some of your Vapelife wire that was mislabeled and because you didn't respond fast enough for them, made a 35 minute rant about how YOU fucked up and how you are putting people at risk and its up to you to deal with it and UNFUCK it as you put it.

also having worked retail for many many years, its on YOU to verify your order when it is received. Mistakes happen everywhere in the supply chain. So apparently the people checking your KP orders can't tell by looking the difference between Kanthal nichrome nickel and SS. maybe you should make a 35 minute rant about how inexperienced vapelife employees are. Including the ones selling the mislabeled wires in store and the ones packaging orders being shipped. You want to be mad at someone start looking in a mirror, because every negative comment you made about KP can be said about vapelife and you.

I have also posted this exact comment on his YT channel, I encourage others to do the same, Too many Sheeple watching his stuff and they need another perspective Some of his comments were like begging the FDA to step in and regulate the industry. I think many of us agree his attitude in handling this situation is way off the rails and he should be reminded that his actions also have consequences
 
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I get a sore throat, swollen lymph nodes in my neck, and a general "I feel like I'm getting sick" feeling - SS does this to me over a few days, nichrome does it within half an hour of vaping, and it gets worse even after I stop. Takes about a day to feel well again.
I would get that I'm getting sick feeling when I vaped SS with Naked juices, especially anything with cream. Was a really bad combo for me. The feeling would come on instantly and next thing I know I'm reaching for Advil cold and sinus... which dried my mouth even more. :giggle:

Shit man, glad I never tried nickel or nichrome wire. SS was bad enough.
 

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@Jai Haze
WTF is wrong with you.
I have watched some of your videos etc, and you aren't everyone's cup of tea but you are what you are.

Put yourself in the place of the owner of KP for one minute. A customer goes and prepares an attack video on your company BEFORE calling you and giving you a chance to fix a mistake. And less than 24 hours for an email is not sufficient time, especially if you publish this on Monday and you say in your video you sent it less then 1 day earlier which would be SUNDAY, not a business day.

If this was you truly looking out for people, then show your tests. Say you are working to get with Kidney puncher to resolve this issue, offer vapelife customers a solution, show people how to test if their KP kathal is Kanthal and be done PSA over. Then give some appropriate time, make a phone call or 3 and work with a company you have built a relationship with for what 4 years a chance to fix a mistake. Then post an update. personally if I owned a company you bought from, I would probably close you account just to avoid you acting like this if my company made a mistake with your order one day.

Let's look at it this way say Grimm or someone equally as big got some of your Vapelife wire that was mislabeled and because you didn't respond fast enough for them, made a 35 minute rant about how YOU fucked up and how you are putting people at risk and its up to you to deal with it and UNFUCK it as you put it.

also having worked retail for many many years, its on YOU to verify your order when it is received. Mistakes happen everywhere in the supply chain. So apparently the people checking your KP orders can't tell by looking the difference between Kanthal nichrome nickel and SS. maybe you should make a 35 minute rant about how inexperienced vapelife employees are. Including the ones selling the mislabeled wires in store and the ones packaging orders being shipped. You want to be mad at someone start looking in a mirror, because every negative comment you made about KP can be said about vapelife and you.

I have also posted this exact comment on his YT channel, I encourage others to do the same, Too many Sheeple watching his stuff and they need another perspective Some of his comments were like begging the FDA to step in and regulate the industry. I think many of us agree his attitude in handling this situation is way off the rails and he should be reminded that his actions also have consequences
When I placed my last order from KP it was early Saturday morning. The order wasn't picked and shipped until Monday which tells me KP does not work Saturday or Sunday. Giving them at least until their next open business day to respond would have made more sense before launching an all out attack on YouTube.
 

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yup and ignoring the facts that thousands of companies have them on their shelves. If someone died from an allergic reaction do you think the courts would have given a fck if they were closed? NO.
 

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yup and ignoring the facts that thousands of companies have them on their shelves. If someone died from an allergic reaction do you think the courts would have given a fck if they were closed? NO.

I have never heard of death from a nickel allergy, have you?
 

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its fun watching you guys hate on me, funny part is usually reddit goes against me - not on this accord. You tools sa
I have never heard of death from a nickel allergy, have you?
ARE you kidding me right now? LOL, oh holy jesus. Instead of trying to attack me on a dying platform maybe pick up some google?
 

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yup and ignoring the facts that thousands of companies have them on their shelves. If someone died from an allergic reaction do you think the courts would have given a fck if they were closed? NO.
no but the courts would not have issued a bench warrant on a Sunday for their arrest.

your issue and concern are legitimate, the way you called them out in this video is just wrong on so many levels. TO me it looks like you are so worried someone is going to sue you or vapelife over a mislabeled spool that you are throwing KP under the bus as fast and as hard as you can to cover your own ass.

Why are you so busy on social media right now? shouldn't you be trying to contact anyone who has purchased your wire and informing them of tehir health risks because you sold mislabeled wire?
 

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Why are you so busy on social media right now? shouldn't you be trying to contact anyone who has purchased your wire and informing them of tehir health risks because you sold mislabeled wire?
thats been done fckhead, I think you should be worried about the COMPANY KP contacting people. I work on Sunday
 

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its fun watching you guys hate on me, funny part is usually reddit goes against me - not on this accord. You tools sa

ARE you kidding me right now? LOL, oh holy jesus. Instead of trying to attack me on a dying platform maybe pick up some google?

I did that first actually, found some articles about skin rashes, I'll keep looking though since the worst I get is a sore throat, having the allergy myself

Edit: ok, I give up after finding nothing. Surely you could oblige us with one reference to death by nickel allergy
 
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thats been done fckhead, I think you should be worried about the COMPANY KP contacting people. I work on Sunday
excuse me sir. have i called you a derogatory name? No I haven't. I am asking you a legitimate question that was not addressed in your video. please try and show some respect. I agree with your stance and your concern. I do not agree with the way you are treating KP and basically in your video begging the government to step into the ring and give them even more reasons to regulate an industry that so far has done a pretty damn good job of regulating itself
 

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I did that first actually, found some articles about skin rashes, I'll keep looking though since the worst I get is a sore throat, having the allergy myself
thats cause thats NOT vaping. Thats an allergic reaction to touching it or having it against your skin. You can get blisters in your mouth, blisters in your throat and fluid in your lungs. But I am assuming you looked passed that article?
 

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excuse me sir. have i called you a derogatory name? No I haven't. I am asking you a legitimate question that was not addressed in your video. please try and show some respect. I agree with your stance and your concern. I do not agree with the way you are treating KP and basically in your video begging the government to step into the ring and give them even more reasons to regulate an industry that so far has done a pretty damn good job of regulating itself
show some respect? LOL fck you, hows that?
 

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thats cause thats NOT vaping. Thats an allergic reaction to touching it or having it against your skin. You can get blisters in your mouth, blisters in your throat and fluid in your lungs. But I am assuming you looked passed that article?

Unsubstantiated claim, I need to see some evidence of anyone getting any of those things after vaping nichrome - braces and dental tools don't count because that's not vaping, right

I get that some people could be more allergic to nickel than I am, but with so many atomizers already out that have nichrome coils, seems like I would have heard about a really severe reaction to vaping on nichrome wire by now
 

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Unsubstantiated claim, I need to see some evidence of anyone getting any of those things after vaping nichrome - braces and dental tools don't count because that's not vaping, right

I get that some people could be more allergic to nickel than I am, but with so many atomizers already out that have nichrome coils, seems like I would have heard about a really severe reaction to vaping on nichrome wire by now
you see right here is proof so far that this video was not about protecting people from nickel wire. If it were, there would have been things in it like:
1. If you know or suspect you have a nickel allergy and discover you do have mislabeled wire, contact your physician immediately, type things.
2. When asked for proof of his statement Jai could provide some himself instead of treating people like garbage because they questioned him
 

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Think for a minute that YOU own a B&M and you just found out that at the very LEAST the last three batches of wire KP sent you over multiple gauges are some mystery non-kanthal wire that is labeled as kanthal

(let's be real, There is NO POSSIBLE WAY that two pieces of the same length and gauge kanthal would be 0.125 ohms off. It doesn't matter whose company's kanthal you mix and match the same length of same gauge and type of wire should not be off by that many ohms.)

If someone does have a nickel allergy real bad and ends up in the hospital who do you think will end up getting sued over it????

Remember KP is printing YOUR B&M logo on the wire.
YOU are the one making the sale.
Someone gets sick (or in the last case blows their teeth out because they are unable to practice proper battery safety) YOU are the one who get's screwed not KP.


Now, lets think about where the HUNDREDS (Probably THOUSANDS) of B&M's and small to medium sized online vape shops are using KP's wire right now.
You don't think it's possible that they have been fucking up peoples orders for the last 6 months all over the entire vaping community???
 

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C'mon guys, this is not about anyone's health or safety. Everybody knows that if you throw a fit on youtube or act crazy, you get more views.
well I would believe it was about health and safety is Jai acted accordingly but based on his behavior so far, I fear you are right this is a publicity stunt, to get more attention for himself and to possibly try and cover his own ass over some mislabeled wire. If I owned KP I would issue a public statement to all my customers offering exchanges for all wire except those labeled vapel1fe and close the vapel1fe account
 

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Think for a minute that YOU own a B&M and you just found out that at the very LEAST the last three batches of wire KP sent you over multiple gauges are some mystery non-kanthal wire that is labeled as kanthal

(let's be real, There is NO POSSIBLE WAY that two pieces of the same length and gauge kanthal would be 0.125 ohms off. It doesn't matter whose company's kanthal you mix and match the same length of same gauge and type of wire should not be off by that many ohms.)

If someone does have a nickel allergy real bad and ends up in the hospital who do you think will end up getting sued over it????

Remember KP is printing YOUR B&M logo on the wire.
YOU are the one making the sale.
Someone gets sick (or in the last case blows their teeth out because they are unable to practice proper battery safety) YOU are the one who get's screwed not KP.


Now, lets think about where the HUNDREDS (Probably THOUSANDS) of B&M's and small to medium sized online vape shops are using KP's wire right now.
You don't think it's possible that they have been fucking up peoples orders for the last 6 months all over the entire vaping community???
your concern is spot on...no one that I see is disagreeing with the fact KP needs to fix their shit, most of us just can not believe the way Jai is handling it
 

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well I would believe it was about health and safety is Jai acted accordingly but based on his behavior so far, I fear you are right this is a publicity stunt, to get more attention for himself and to possibly try and cover his own ass over some mislabeled wire. If I owned KP I would issue a public statement to all my customers offering exchanges for all wire except those labeled vapel1fe and close the vapel1fe account
Then warn everyone who offers wire for B&Ms of how Jai handled this situation and let them decide for themselves if they want to deal with him
 

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So @Jai Haze doesn't want to get sued and is warning the million other people that buy and sell KP wire that they could get sued too and you guys are all pissed off at HIM for that?

I honestly would have thought about MYSELF first in this situation too since I would have already sold a bunch of the stuff.

Does that make me a bad person for some reason?
 

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So @Jai Haze doesn't want to get sued and is warning the million other people that buy and sell KP wire that they could get sued too and you guys are all pissed off at HIM for that?

WTF is wrong with everybody today?
put yourself in KPs place. Jai made this video before they had a chance to solve and fix the issue. He even says that in the video. he contacted them on a saturday when they are closed and did not get a response on Sunday so he posted the video Sunday. That is not giving any business the opportunity to fix it. He spent most of the time throwing KP under the bus and trying to hurt them not help anyone who is affected by this. He is disguising his real motivations and you are buying it
 

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your concern is spot on...no one that I see is disagreeing with the fact KP needs to fix their shit, most of us just can not believe the way Jai is handling it
Exactly. I agree with the concern and understand since I don't do well with nickel either. It's the way the situation was handled.
 

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If I owned KP I would issue a public statement to all my customers offering exchanges for all wire except those labeled vapel1fe and close the vapel1fe account

What about the thousands of other members that have potentially mislabeled wire?

If they fucked up the vapelife wire over 3 orders and many different gauges of wire to think they didn't mislabel anyone else's wire either wouldn't make any sense.
 

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