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https://www.washingtonpost.com/heal...er-fees/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.2b366a3c9ffa

The e-cigarette industry would pay $100 million a year in user fees under the Trump administration budget proposal released Monday. The funds would go to beefed-up regulatory oversight by the Food and Drug Administration.

President Trump’s budget plan said the user-fee proposal for the e-cigarette industry “would ensure that FDA has the resources to address today’s alarming rise in youth e-cigarette use as well as new public health threats of tomorrow."


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https://www.washingtonpost.com/heal...er-fees/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.2b366a3c9ffa

The e-cigarette industry would pay $100 million a year in user fees under the Trump administration budget proposal released Monday. The funds would go to beefed-up regulatory oversight by the Food and Drug Administration.

President Trump’s budget plan said the user-fee proposal for the e-cigarette industry “would ensure that FDA has the resources to address today’s alarming rise in youth e-cigarette use as well as new public health threats of tomorrow."
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Posted without political comment.

Your fake-news WaPo link is political.
We already have political threads for you to whine and cry about America and President Trump.
Get some self-respect.

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And the collect money now and spend it now for future health threats aspect....
Non partisan there as well.
 

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Your fake-news WaPo link is political.
We already have political threads for you to whine and cry about America and President Trump.
Get some self-respect.

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LMAO. I normally ignore your posts but I knew the fake news thing would come up.
And since it was my thread I felt obliged to view all replies.

research it yourself the Trump proposed budget is public access I would think.

Or believe Trumps beloved Fox Nooze.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/the-latest-budget-official-defends-economic-forecast

President Donald Trump's budget calls for collecting $100 million in new fees from the electronic cigarette industry to help combat a surge in underage vaping.
 

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Since this is a political thread and Cromwell is a raging anti-Trump lunatic,
It is transparent that he is trying to start an 'I HATE Trump' thread.

Wahhh.... Trump is against vapers!!! Hogwash.

Don't be sucked into Crommie's line of dishonest liberal hogwash.


Put this lying s#ithole anti-Trump POLITICS thread in the Mudpit where it belongs.

 

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Since this is a political thread and Cromwell is a raging anti-Trump lunatic,
It is transparent that he is trying to start an 'I HATE Trump' thread.

Wahhh.... Trump is against vapers!!! Hogwash.

Don't be sucked into Crommie's line of dishonest liberal hogwash.


Put this lying s#ithole anti-Trump POLITICS thread in the Mudpit where it belongs.
You are the only one exhibiting mudpit behavior here.
Nice try to try and censor a factual non political thread though.
You dickless wonder :D

oops... but that is not political :D
 

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Since this is a political thread and Cromwell is a raging anti-Trump lunatic,
It is transparent that he is trying to start an 'I HATE Trump' thread.

Wahhh.... Trump is against vapers!!! Hogwash.

Don't be sucked into Crommie's line of dishonest liberal hogwash.


Put this lying s#ithole anti-Trump POLITICS thread in the Mudpit where it belongs.

:wtf:
 

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I think I was clear. This thread was posted as Crommie's usual political anti Trump pukefest.

We already have an area that he can post alll the Trump hate he wants.

AND... I see you're a mod now and putting your Like on a non-Mudpit post calling me a "dickless wonder".
So basically, it looks like you are gonna be Whiskey2.

Way to go Lucy.

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I think I was clear. This thread was posted as Crommie's usual political anti Trump pukefest.

We already have an area that he can post alll the Trump hate he wants.

AND... I see you're a mod now and putting your Like on a non-Mudpit post calling me a "dickless wonder".
So basically, it looks like you are gonna be Whiskey2.

Way to go Lucy.

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:giggle: :finger: :giggle:
 

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I don't believe shit that rag says. but I would not doubt this. vaping is a vise for them to attack. and one day IT WILL be attacked, and badly !
 

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I don't believe shit that rag says. but I would not doubt this. vaping is a vise for them to attack. and one day IT WILL be attacked, and badly !
Fox Business says the same thing.
It is a matter of record, written in the budget.
Not believing makes no difference.
 

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I think I was clear. This thread was posted as Crommie's usual political anti Trump pukefest.

We already have an area that he can post alll the Trump hate he wants.

AND... I see you're a mod now and putting your Like on a non-Mudpit post calling me a "dickless wonder".
So basically, it looks like you are gonna be Whiskey2.

Way to go Lucy.

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But you are a dickless wonder boy :)
Just a fact.

and a mod has a mudpit qualified political thread that is NOT in the mudpit.
So if one can do it all mods can?

Sure throw this thread in the mudpit but if anyone does the who would you vote for thread has to go there too.
 

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About time for wonder boy to call in his cronies.
Prolly lots of ass showing coming up.
Ohh well.
 

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I think I was clear. This thread was posted as Crommie's usual political anti Trump pukefest.

We already have an area that he can post alll the Trump hate he wants.

AND... I see you're a mod now and putting your Like on a non-Mudpit post calling me a "dickless wonder".
So basically, it looks like you are gonna be Whiskey2.

Way to go Lucy.

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LOL...they made that useless POS crummie a mod...damn a replay of ECF all over again.
 

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Fox Business says the same thing.
It is a matter of record, written in the budget.
Not believing makes no difference.

I did say I 'could' believe it. but not just because that rag says it. if it becomes so, how they implement it, hmmm.

one thing is for sure, I'm not paying $150 for a $50 mod. I will make my own.
 

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I did say I 'could' believe it. but not just because that rag says it. if it becomes so, how they implement it, hmmm.

one thing is for sure, I'm not paying $150 for a $50 mod. I will make my own.
ah vaping is a goldmine the beaucrats just can't resist...it's like the beatles said

 

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I did say I 'could' believe it. but not just because that rag says it. if it becomes so, how they implement it, hmmm.

one thing is for sure, I'm not paying $150 for a $50 mod. I will make my own.
this will not impact me as I am dully vested in vape hardware and nic for the rest of my life.
And have been 100% DIY for almost 4 years.

I do have sympathy for others though.

As it stands in around 2 years you will not legally be allowed to buy or import a mod for any price in around 2 years.
 

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Crony 1 right on schedule.
I'm sorry bobbie I just can't believe that they would make someone who is so fucking stupid he burnt down his own home, a mod..but really you go around calling people dickless wonders you really can't expect to be above reproach. just because teacher gave you a gold star don't expect to abuse people and not get it thrown back in your face.
 

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f it becomes so, how they implement it, hmmm.

Same way they do on regular tobacco products.
Taxes per ml or percentage of cost, etc.
They collect fees on artificial limbs, and all sorts of medical appliances now.

this will be legislated law not just a FDA reg and vigorously enforced.
No wait on the 2 yr remaining on holdoff on enforcing the FDA regs.
 

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I'm sorry bobbie I just can't believe that they would make someone who is so fucking stupid he burnt down his own home, a mod..but really you go around calling people dickless wonders you really can't expect to be above reproach. just because teacher gave you a gold star don't expect to abuse people and not get it thrown back in your face.
I only abuse those who deserve it.
Like you.

That is the difference between me and a rampant abuser like you.
 

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ah vaping is a goldmine the beaucrats just can't resist...it's like the beatles said

everything that's a goldmine they can't resist. a fact = they think they deserve our money more than we do.

btw, I am watching "john & yoko; above us only sky", its a documentary. its incredible just how Untalented and an idiot he is.
no doubt the other beatles carried him.
 

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everything that's a goldmine they can't resist. a fact = they think they deserve our money more than we do.

btw, I am watching "john & yoko; above us only sky", its a documentary. its incredible just how Untalented and an idiot he is.
no doubt the other beatles carried him.
I just quite can't figure out how they have conned us into the idea...that they have a right to tax us at all.....we don't even question their right to tax us... we just argue about how much they get to tax us.
 

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Meanwhile, y'all ignore the real threat: the state's taxes.

This is happening now in my state:
http://www.vapingunderground.com/posts/2437632/

Feds don't need to do shit, the states can and will eventually tax the vapes at 95% OTP levels regardless of the FDA or the Feds, making vaping basically impossible if you depend on a local store/online biz that now has to go out of business.

Yay 'Merrica...driving more business to the Chinese. As usual.
 

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everything that's a goldmine they can't resist. a fact = they think they deserve our money more than we do.

btw, I am watching "john & yoko; above us only sky", its a documentary. its incredible just how Untalented and an idiot he is.
no doubt the other beatles carried him.
He was also a jerk.
Just my opinion though.
 

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Meanwhile, y'all ignore the real threat: the state's taxes.

This is happening now in my state:
http://www.vapingunderground.com/posts/2437632/

Feds don't need to do shit, the states can and will tax the vapes at 95% OTP levels, making vaping basically impossible if you depend on a local store that now has to go out of business. Yay 'Merrica...driving more business to the Chinese.
Just like other tobacco products, state and federal taxes.
 

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Same way they do on regular tobacco products.
Taxes per ml or percentage of cost, etc.
They collect fees on artificial limbs, and all sorts of medical appliances now.

this will be legislated law not just a FDA reg and vigorously enforced.
No wait on the 2 yr remaining on holdoff on enforcing the FDA regs.

"if" it ends up being 2 years, even from 'now". I am golden = I will have so much shit by then. hell, I may even buy 'investment' mods and nic.
 

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"if" it ends up being 2 years, even from 'now". I am golden = I will have so much shit by then. hell, I may even buy 'investment' mods and nic.
I's like to believe they will leave our sources of Nicotine alone, but I think that's just wishfull thinking. as for hardware..I got all I need.
 

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About time for wonder boy to call in his cronies.
Prolly lots of ass showing coming up.
Ohh well.

I wouldn't worry. The only reason I'm not really worried about this is because nobody in DC takes Trump seriously anymore, he's just too insane, stupid, and probably treasonous. I'm just waiting for the impeachment proceedings to begin. Frankly I'm amazed the secret service takes their job seriously, with him as prez.

Andria
 

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"I got mine fuck everyone else", yeah that works well...:rolleyes:
works for me....I can't stop the machine, but I can try and get out from under it's wheels.You wanna start the revolution go ahead I'll come in on the chorus.
 
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I wouldn't worry. The only reason I'm not really worried about this is because nobody in DC takes Trump seriously anymore, he's just too insane, stupid, and probably treasonous. I'm just waiting for the impeachment proceedings to begin. Frankly I'm amazed the secret service takes their job seriously, with him as prez.

Andria
how's fantasy land babe.....have you seen Trump's approval ratings..they are higher than Obama's....as for impeachment...take a bite out of a reality sandwich. Frankly I'm surprised anyone takes you seriously...it's gonna be funny as hell watching your shit come unglued in 2020
 
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Point being, it wont' matter who's in the Oval Orofice. Just ask Pennsylvania or New York.
Like I said earlier I do not expect either party to oppose the 100 million of vape stuff.
And once it is in it is in and will only increase.

Only thing remotely political about this is that it appeared in the current administrations budget.
Neither side will throw it out though,
 

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I wouldn't worry. The only reason I'm not really worried about this is because nobody in DC takes Trump seriously anymore, he's just too insane, stupid, and probably treasonous. I'm just waiting for the impeachment proceedings to begin. Frankly I'm amazed the secret service takes their job seriously, with him as prez.

Andria
The SS is dedicated to the job not the person.
It kinda has to be that way.
I am sure they like some presidents more than others but they are professionals.
 

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I wouldn't worry. The only reason I'm not really worried about this is because nobody in DC takes Trump seriously anymore, he's just too insane, stupid, and probably treasonous. I'm just waiting for the impeachment proceedings to begin. Frankly I'm amazed the secret service takes their job seriously, with him as prez.

Andria

really ? he's stupid ? let me ask you, how many skyscrapers have you built ? how many billions have you earned for yourself ?

insane ? for what ? trying to save this country from foreign invaders ? some of which would happily kill YOU.

treasonous ? is he the F'ing IDIOT who sent 150 BILLION, in cash on pallets, to a country that openly and actively wants to kill ALL OF US .

is he the greatest thing since sliced bread, NO. but he is LIGHT YEARS better than the alternative.
 

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