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Sounds like good news. I was hoping it wasn't too restricted even when wide open. OP should be able to adjust it to liking then, according to their feedback on how they've been vaping.

Are the legs on the included coils long enough to add a wrap? If you remember?
I believe so. A youtube review would probably show the included coil. Didn't think of that.
 

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I just looked,
and for the OP, Busardo shows an included coil along with dry firing it. As long as the legs look, looks like he took a wrap off, and because he said it's .5Ω, and adding a wrap may make it too long. Probably best to try it straight out of the box.
 

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I just looked,
and for the OP, Busardo shows an included coil along with dry firing it. As long as the legs look, looks like he took a wrap off because he said it's .5Ω and adding a wrap may make it too long. Probably best to try it straight out of the box.
i'm not sure those are the same coils that i got. I'll can check when I get home.
 

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About batterries...

I have efest's pro c2 charger (here: https://www.myvaporstore.com/Efest-PRO-C2-Charger-p/eft30.htm )

I have 6 of the 18650 batteries. 2 came with the charger (3000mAh), but they don't look like the ones in the photo/link above. I think I bought it from eBay. But it's been a couple years without problems...... 3 batteries came with the aspire plato (2500mAh). 1 is HΩ Life (3077mAh).

The above link does not list a 21700 as compatible. I checked 4-5 listings with no change until I came across this next one. It gives a range which includes a 21700. ( https://vaping.com/efest-pro-c2-charger )
 

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About batterries...

I have efest's pro c2 charger (here: https://www.myvaporstore.com/Efest-PRO-C2-Charger-p/eft30.htm )

I have 6 of the 18650 batteries. 2 came with the charger (3000mAh), but they don't look like the ones in the photo/link above. I think I bought it from eBay. But it's been a couple years without problems...... 3 batteries came with the aspire plato (2500mAh). 1 is HΩ Life (3077mAh).

The above link does not list a 21700 as compatible. I checked 4-5 listings with no change until I came across this next one. It gives a range which includes a 21700. ( https://vaping.com/efest-pro-c2-charger )
( https://www.imrbatteries.com/blog/chargers-which-fit-20700-21700-cells/ )
says YES
 

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About batterries...

I have efest's pro c2 charger (here: https://www.myvaporstore.com/Efest-PRO-C2-Charger-p/eft30.htm )

I have 6 of the 18650 batteries. 2 came with the charger (3000mAh), but they don't look like the ones in the photo/link above. I think I bought it from eBay. But it's been a couple years without problems...... 3 batteries came with the aspire plato (2500mAh). 1 is HΩ Life (3077mAh).

The above link does not list a 21700 as compatible. I checked 4-5 listings with no change until I came across this next one. It gives a range which includes a 21700. ( https://vaping.com/efest-pro-c2-charger )
Regulated mods have built in safety features that you're probably aware of. Low battery cut off is one, where if the battery isn't sufficient for the watts [amps come into play] it's set at, then the mod won't fire. It's best to use the best premium batteries, of sufficient amps for how it will be used.
And altho we can get you going with the best 21700 for Jackaroo, efest has made different purple 18650's over the years, and assuming the efest has a very low 10Amps, your still ok at your low wattage. The HΩ Life may be the best 18650 of the bunch that you have.
You linked imr and that's a good choice as well as Liion Wholesale and IIlumn.
So we pick batteries by brand > amps > Mah.

There's only 3-4 manufacturer's of the batteries we use. Those manufacturer's use the cream of the lion crop they produce, for their own battery label,, and sell some and lessor grade to other's that only put their brand wrapper on it. With these re-wrapped batteries, those companies can change the actual battery at any time. With brand name you get the quality and tested spec consistency.
Samsung
Molicel
Sony
LG
are what to look for.

For 21700, Samsung 40T would be the way to go. Way more amps than needed but we're looking at 4k Mah and if you go to higher wattages down the road then you have the amps.
If you want to pick up a couple fresh 18650's - Samsung 30Q would be ideal for your Plato or any other mod at your wattages.[up to 45-50w per 30Q]
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Let me know if your charger winds up not fitting 21700, I have one I'll give you.
 
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:bliss:
Well everything has been ordered:

1 blue python Jackaroo
1 black Berserker v1.5
1 full black HellBeast
1 replacement bulb glass for HellBeast
2 Samsung 40T 21700 batteries
Koh Gen Do Rectangle Organic Cotton Wick... (6-Pack)
Nautilus coil 5-pack (at about half my local shop price)
1 Tool Kit

I spent way more than I intended but I think I made pretty sensible decisions. If I just bought a cheap cigalike that was completely unsatisfying, I’d waste money and risk resorting to smoking again. Maybe cigalikes/pen vapes are better than when I tried them, but I had little luck. I thought a backup atty was pretty necessary too, considering I might hit a hiccup with my first build.

For better or worse, this is looking more like a hobby for me than I’ve ever thought it would. But just like my dog, art, and SO, vaping is part of keeping life great.

Thanks for all the help!

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:bliss:
Well everything has been ordered:

1 blue python Jackaroo
1 black Berserker v1.5
1 full black HellBeast
1 replacement bulb glass for HellBeast
2 Samsung 40T 21700 batteries
Koh Gen Do Rectangle Organic Cotton Wick... (6-Pack)
Nautilus coil 5-pack (at about half my local shop price)
1 Tool Kit

I spent way more than I intended but I think I made pretty sensible decisions. If I just bought a cheap cigalike that was completely unsatisfying, I’d waste money and risk resorting to smoking again. Maybe cigalikes/pen vapes are better than when I tried them, but I had little luck. I thought a backup atty was pretty necessary too, considering I might hit a hiccup with my first build.

For better or worse, this is looking more like a hobby for me than I’ve ever thought it would. But just like my dog, art, and SO, vaping is part of keeping life great.

Thanks for all the help!

:stars2:
Any good news?
 

Daizical

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Any good news?
Not quite yet. I ordered from 4 different sites sent as 5 packages. I received 3 packages. I just saw 1 is close, but the tracking program kinda sucks. The close package went from pre-shipment to arrived in Chicago (from China I think) in one day.

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I regret to report that hanging around here has not been known to help anybody with that situation. :wait:
I’m pleased to report I appreciate your humor haha
 

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It doesn't take long with all the enabling. Did you see the new wotofo secret coming out? Might be worth buying. See just like that. Enabled:devil:
I did see that :)

When I started a year and a half ago, I thought I was just getting a kit to keep me from using my niece's all the time, who wasn't any help either. Always handing it to me. I really liked it.

I didn't even know there was a hobbyist community. Honestly, I like playing with all this crap at least as much as I actually like vaping itself.
 

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Hey so I need some reassurance vaporl.com is legit. I order the Jackaroo from there on May 4 or 5. We exchanged emails about an issue and I received excellent customer service. I was told via email it would ship May 13. The tracking program is a little hard to understand (using different phrases than I'm used to despite being translated to English). Also, some of the steps seem out of order ("leaving the originating country" then "arrived at transit airport"). Which could be absolutely nothing, I know, but I'm just worried at this point. Between the 24th-25th the item left the Netherlands, but it has never appeared on USPS tracking. I'm worried and my patience is running out.

On another note, I half built the Berserker v1.5. I'm going to try to upload a photo of it. I had trouble with trying to add the cotton. Any good videos about wicking specifically? And I noticed people firing up their coils before wicking to clean off hot spots. Should this be done with every coil change?

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Hey so I need some reassurance vaporl.com is legit. I order the Jackaroo from there on May 4 or 5. We exchanged emails about an issue and I received excellent customer service. I was told via email it would ship May 13. The tracking program is a little hard to understand (using different phrases than I'm used to despite being translated to English). Also, some of the steps seem out of order ("leaving the originating country" then "arrived at transit airport"). Which could be absolutely nothing, I know, but I'm just worried at this point. Between the 24th-25th the item left the Netherlands, but it has never appeared on USPS tracking. I'm worried and my patience is running out.

On another note, I half built the Berserker v1.5. I'm going to try to upload a photo of it. I had trouble with trying to add the cotton. Any good videos about wicking specifically? And I noticed people firing up their coils before wicking to clean off hot spots. Should this be done with every coil change?

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Dry firing is a must to get hot spots out. It makes sure that there are no spots to scorch your cotton as you vape. I've ordered from vaporrl once and it went fine. China shipping is half assed most times and thats what we go through for cheaper prices from china unfortunately. As far as wicking the berserker I'd check YouTube. There's bound to be some videos on that one.
 

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Dry firing is a must to get hot spots out. It makes sure that there are no spots to scorch your cotton as you vape. I've ordered from vaporrl once and it went fine. China shipping is half assed most times and thats what we go through for cheaper prices from china unfortunately. As far as wicking the berserker I'd check YouTube. There's bound to be some videos on that one.
Thanks for the reply. Just so happened that between my last post and now, the item reached New York. yay
 

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Hey so I need some reassurance vaporl.com is legit. I order the Jackaroo from there on May 4 or 5. We exchanged emails about an issue and I received excellent customer service. I was told via email it would ship May 13. The tracking program is a little hard to understand (using different phrases than I'm used to despite being translated to English). Also, some of the steps seem out of order ("leaving the originating country" then "arrived at transit airport"). Which could be absolutely nothing, I know, but I'm just worried at this point. Between the 24th-25th the item left the Netherlands, but it has never appeared on USPS tracking. I'm worried and my patience is running out.

On another note, I half built the Berserker v1.5. I'm going to try to upload a photo of it. I had trouble with trying to add the cotton. Any good videos about wicking specifically? And I noticed people firing up their coils before wicking to clean off hot spots. Should this be done with every coil change?

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Your coil looks fine. What trouble are you having with the cotton?
 

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Those hot spots are because electrons aren't moving smoothly through the wire. So working those out before wicking is important.
Once the coil is used , then you'd again be making sure to eliminate hot spots at the same time as cleaning it.

There's some wicking at about 15:30 in that vid ^^ up there.
 

Daizical

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Your coil looks fine. What trouble are you having with the cotton?
Just don’t know how much to use. Like how much to pull through the coil, how tight the fit should be. Should the cotton move easily within the coil? I couldn’t get the cotton through on my first attempt and when I did (using half of the cotton from my first attempt), it was a very very tight fit. I think I used too much. Regardless, I took a break because my hands ached. It’s tolerable and I expect with more experience I will build quicker, allowing less time for achy-ness to increase.
 

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Just don’t know how much to use. Like how much to pull through the coil, how tight the fit should be. Should the cotton move easily within the coil? I couldn’t get the cotton through on my first attempt and when I did (using half of the cotton from my first attempt), it was a very very tight fit. I think I used too much. Regardless, I took a break because my hands ached. It’s tolerable and I expect with more experience I will build quicker, allowing less time for achy-ness to increase.
Your cotton should give resistance, but not have to be "muscled" through the coil. (Kinda hard to explain ) How to work the tails will vary from device to device.

The suggested youtube videos will be very helpful. This guy is usually pretty helpful too.
 

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Just don’t know how much to use. Like how much to pull through the coil, how tight the fit should be. Should the cotton move easily within the coil? I couldn’t get the cotton through on my first attempt and when I did (using half of the cotton from my first attempt), it was a very very tight fit. I think I used too much. Regardless, I took a break because my hands ached. It’s tolerable and I expect with more experience I will build quicker, allowing less time for achy-ness to increase.

That's probably the best way to describe it, when the cotton moves through the coil you should feel resistance, but not so much that it pulls your coil out of shape. Tails should be cut to just touch the bottom of the deck, inside those holes where you tuck the wicks down on either side of the coil.

When I pull cotton apart for a wick, the loose strand of cotton is roughly twice the width of the coil. I take that length of cotton and roll it between my fingers to make a more compacted wick, but put the most pressure on the end I need to thread through the coil. You want to compress that end to a point. I often use pointed end tweezers to grab the cotton up inside the coil and pull it the rest of the way through.

Hope this helps.
 

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Just don’t know how much to use. Like how much to pull through the coil, how tight the fit should be. Should the cotton move easily within the coil? I couldn’t get the cotton through on my first attempt and when I did (using half of the cotton from my first attempt), it was a very very tight fit. I think I used too much. Regardless, I took a break because my hands ached. It’s tolerable and I expect with more experience I will build quicker, allowing less time for achy-ness to increase.
Right. After a few times you'll know how much length and width to start with.
I start with a length plenty long enough to roll one end to a compressed point so I have enough to go all the way though the coil and still have enough to grab, without forcing it too tightly inside the coil. If it is too tight you can twist the open end [to make it smaller around] as you pull it through. Once in there, if it's tight move the wick back and forth to loosen it in the coil until it's snug bit not tight. I think for this one if the coil slightly moves when moving the wick back&forth, you're good.
 

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*puts up a @Vape Fan mirror as he agrees in most part with what they've written so far* I like using ceramic tipped tweezers to help pull cotton through a coil. Also, like to use Muji organic cotton. It's all subjective though. There's no best except what you make/choose best for yourself, so don't ask that. You might ask "hey what do you like and why", that might help you narrow a search.

We'll all tell you something different from one another. And some days like I do at times, I'll tell you on Tuesday that cotton is my favorite wick, then by Thursday I'll tell you I like rayon the best. It continually changes for applications, for differing factors. Rayon might work better for me at higher or lower altitudes, or it might be from the barometric pressure this week. Yep, you betcha it's a factor, even that wild bit of hair up your ... is a factor too. So don't ever think you're full on totally squared. The second you do something will find a way to flip it all upside down.

Here's a secret though. It'll drive you mad but that's the joy of it. :) Don't suffer from insanity, enjoy it. Then, you can beat it or wind up realizing the world itself is insane and so requires the insanity to enjoy. Can vaping save lives? Yes it can. It can also make folks wonder, ... what is for lunch next Tuesday? *grins*
 

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After reading these last few replies I think I’ll be fine wicking. The descriptions made a lot of sense.

Great news everyone! I’m sure my Jackaroo will be delivered tomorrow. I see it’s on it’s way to my local post office. Yay
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(And what did we do before tracking?)

I also bought some new juice that will likely arrive Monday. In order to get the sale prices and flavors I wanted, I ordered different mixes and nicotine levels. I ordered Beast Treats and Root Beer from Mt. Baker Vapor.

Beast Treats:
12 mg/ml 70PG/30VG 30ml (x1)
0 mg/ml 50PG/50VG 30ml (x2)

Root Beer:
6 mg/ml 70PG/30VG 30ml (x1)
0 mg/ml 50PG/50VG 30ml (x1)

I plan to mix them to get 3-4 mg/ml. I’ve never tried anything but 50/50 but decided that I’d rather increase the throat hit over increasing cloud sizes. Might end up making zero difference too. I haven’t fully figured out where I will mix them (maybe a Pyrex storage container or other glass) or how I will do the rest, but I have an eye dropper somewhere and will check my local vape shop for something to refill on the go.

Anyway, I guess I don’t really have a question but wanted to share! I’ve been using cinnamon juice for years. I read “Oranges, strawberreies, grapes, lemons and limes, Beast Treats Vape Juice is a citrusy-blast...” and I just had to get it.
 

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Can't wait to see you build, wicking, and setup. :vino: 30ml bottles are good for filling.
 

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I’ve decided to wait for the Beast Treats before completing the Berserker build. That will be Monday. For now I have the HellBeast on my new Jackaroo. The mod is more awesome than I expected. I love the feel of it. The soft rubber is nice and, in terms of touch, it blends well with the other materials and textures. It’s heavier than expected or desired but I’ll get used to it.

I’m anxious to see the matte black Berserker on it, but I won’t tempt myself to waste juice and cotton on my cinnamon. 14A37BDD-2373-41CE-B0DC-3D51D5E1739B.jpeg

Here’s today’s new...
 

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I’ve decided to wait for the Beast Treats before completing the Berserker build. That will be Monday. For now I have the HellBeast on my new Jackaroo. The mod is more awesome than I expected. I love the feel of it. The soft rubber is nice and, in terms of touch, it blends well with the other materials and textures. It’s heavier than expected or desired but I’ll get used to it.

I’m anxious to see the matte black Berserker on it, but I won’t tempt myself to waste juice and cotton on my cinnamon. View attachment 140147

Here’s today’s new...

That looks great. I like the blue a lot!
 

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So my juice arrived Saturday. I built the Berserker and found I don’t like Beast Treats juice and the atty has too tight a draw. Maybe the reason I was uncertain of my answer to “do you vape like smoking a cig” is because the answer is yes and no. I like a lot of airflow but when it comes to the inhale process it’s all MTL. I can’t even imagine what DTL would be like. I’m a lil bummed especially because the matte black looks awesome on the Jackaroo and I was expecting to have 2 attys for my mod for two flavors. Idk what my next steps will be.
 

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If you made the coil 3mm id, you could possibly make it 2 or 2.5
Smaller diameter coil could increase air flow.
Maybe a larger bore tip.

That setup does look nice
 

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If you made the coil 3mm id, you could possibly make it 2 or 2.5
Smaller diameter coil could increase air flow.
Maybe a larger bore tip.

That setup does look nice

Looks like I can try 2. Should I still do 6 wraps? I’ll look for a different drip tip at my local vape shop. Already heading in for a (hopefully 60+ ml) bottle to combine the root beer juice (2x30ml). At least I know I like root beer, not that it’s guaranteed I’ll like it as vape juice.
 

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You can use that coil. Just slide it down and pull it tight around the 2mm spot. Careful not to pull the 38g wrap off. Then use the legs to add wrap(s) to change resistance if needed.

Here’s https://www.steam-engine.org/wirewiz.html
To determine resistance for that Clapton wire [for the most part, if there’s 1 or more cores with another wire wrapped around, it’s a Clapton].
For the wire in your pick,
Got to:
Coil Builder - select Clapton
Under Core – select parallel because you have more than 1 core wire. Then select N80 and 30g in the menu for each of the 2 core wires.
At the bottom in the Wrap section – select N80 and 38g.
Then go to top left of page under Coil setup.
ID – self explanatory
Wraps – [hover mouse over it to see if it’s full wrap or ½ wrap. Legs in opposite direction = full wrap/even number] Use an even number of wraps that equate to the resistance you want. Resistance is in blue section. You can leave leg length and wrap spacing where they are since it won’t matter enough. Make sure it will fit the atty when deciding how many wraps.

How is it wicking? Feel like your getting all the flavor without dry or anemic hits from having too much cotton?

EDIT: I think you could probably fit up to 8 wraps of that wire. 2mm id w/7 wraps will give you the same 0.7ishΩ as the 2.5mm W/6 wraps.
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At least I know I like root beer, not that it’s guaranteed I’ll like it as vape juice.
Trial and error to find what juice you really like and want to buy more of. Maybe stick with smallest quantities till you figure it out.
All I can say about flavors is my own exp with them. Started thinking I needed tobacco flavor to quit smoking. Bought fruity instead and liked it/never bought tobacco flavor. Stayed with fruits for quite a while then went to deserts. Now the fruits I vape are in a some sort of deserts, cookie, cake,,, Blueberry muffin, Strawberry cake...and some others are custards, vanillas, a couple have some coffee,,,
 

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Trial and error to find what juice you really like and want to buy more of. Maybe stick with smallest quantities till you figure it out.
All I can say about flavors is my own exp with them. Started thinking I needed tobacco flavor to quit smoking. Bought fruity instead and liked it/never bought tobacco flavor. Stayed with fruits for quite a while then went to deserts. Now the fruits I vape are in a some sort of deserts, cookie, cake,,, Blueberry muffin, Strawberry cake...and some others are custards, vanillas, a couple have some coffee,,,

Thanks for the info above. ‘Tis appreciated. I will try again in a few days when I have time.

I think the build is right including enough saturation. Initially I thought I burnt the wick somehow. I tested it by sampling the flavor in my old device. I didn’t change the coil and it had a very small amount of cinnamon left in its tank but it soon tasted just like the Beast Treats in the Berserker.

I’m picky about juice. I don’t like many fruits unless mixed. Like a cherry berry. Berries are okay if there are cherries. I worry if I get a dessert flavor I will be craving the actual dessert. But I have a list of flavors I will sample at my local shop. Maybe Mountains of Dew, although idk how I’d like to be reminded what I’m drinking is the diet version.

But I’ll figure it out. For now, I have my cinnamon filled HellBeast atop a drop-proof Jackaroo. So I’m good. Love the slide to fill feature.
 

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Here’s https://www.steam-engine.org/wirewiz.html
To determine resistance for that Clapton wire [for the most part, if there’s 1 or more cores with another wire wrapped around, it’s a Clapton].
For the wire in your pick,
Got to:
Coil Builder - select Clapton
Under Core – select parallel because you have more than 1 core wire. Then select N80 and 30g in the menu for each of the 2 core wires.
At the bottom in the Wrap section – select N80 and 38g.
Then go to top left of page under Coil setup.
ID – self explanatory
Wraps – [hover mouse over it to see if it’s full wrap or ½ wrap. Legs in opposite direction = full wrap/even number] Use an even number of wraps that equate to the resistance you want. Resistance is in blue section. You can leave leg length and wrap spacing where they are since it won’t matter enough. Make sure it will fit the atty when deciding how many wraps.

Ah Ha! And, D'oh why did I not see/realize this. *smh*

Muhahaha!!! 30*2 wrapped 3236*1 round 3 mm ID at around .45 all NiChrome A. "Here hold my beer and watch this!"

Ha! Figures, flubbed it twice. Not a problem, didn't want to do it anyway. Will go at it later on.

I kept getting it to go all wonky resizing the ID for me as I was putting it into the deck. No I'm not drinking a thing. I'm tired. It is near rack time.

Ooops, yanked too much there.
Wed Jun 12 07:01:17 EDT 2019

Ha. Let me roll it 28*2 - 30*1 all Nichrome A, tapping at .33 to .36 Ω. There's a reason I don't use tiny wire. *chuckles* My Phat Phingers Phumble it all up. :)
 
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0A91A591-6AE8-4D11-83B3-41B5AF0B747F.jpeg I got an email that there was a reply on here. I guess it was deleted. Makes sense considering what my email said...

While I’m here I guess I’ll add an update.

Love the Jackaroo still. It’s solid and dependable. The rubber surfaces of it help it stay in place when it’s on my car’s console.

The HellBeast is working but I’m so not in love. I get so much spitback and I’m so tired of my lips burning from the cinnamon. I’ve tried raising the power to burn more juice but the hit gets too hard and hurts my throat. I also dropped it and it’s not indestructible. It’s intact and functional but a little lopsided. Love the ample airflow.

I’ve built the Berserker a few times. The last time was with an airflow hole enlarged by a kind worker at my local shop. (Didn’t even buy it from them!) the airflow might be adequate now, but I fudged something up I think. I didn’t taste right. Is it possible to burn the wire when checking for hotspots? I’m not thrilled with the idea of figuring this out anymore. Building isn’t for me. The time, the handling of little things with achy hands, the electricity.

I did pretty decent in science class but electricity confuses and scares me. This last build attempt was with different wires than the first tries. I used the website calculator but am still concerned about a potential explosion near my face. I’ll just stick to tanks and factory coils.

So the HellBeast and Berserker are a bust for me. I’m looking for something new. I’m considering Innokin’s Zenith and Zlide. Could possibly go with an aspire Nautilus something or other. I don’t know enough yet. I had a Nautilus Mini years and years ago. That would look dumb for sure, if it would even fit. I see there’s a Nautilus X. I’m noticing a lot more options for sub ohm but I prefer lower watts burning less juice. But with higher airflow.

So I HellBeast on wondering repeatedly if vape juice causes oral cancer when applied topically. Time to get my grumpy self to sleep.
 

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View attachment 143196 I got an email that there was a reply on here. I guess it was deleted. Makes sense considering what my email said...

While I’m here I guess I’ll add an update.

Love the Jackaroo still. It’s solid and dependable. The rubber surfaces of it help it stay in place when it’s on my car’s console.

The HellBeast is working but I’m so not in love. I get so much spitback and I’m so tired of my lips burning from the cinnamon. I’ve tried raising the power to burn more juice but the hit gets too hard and hurts my throat. I also dropped it and it’s not indestructible. It’s intact and functional but a little lopsided. Love the ample airflow.

I’ve built the Berserker a few times. The last time was with an airflow hole enlarged by a kind worker at my local shop. (Didn’t even buy it from them!) the airflow might be adequate now, but I fudged something up I think. I didn’t taste right. Is it possible to burn the wire when checking for hotspots? I’m not thrilled with the idea of figuring this out anymore. Building isn’t for me. The time, the handling of little things with achy hands, the electricity.

I did pretty decent in science class but electricity confuses and scares me. This last build attempt was with different wires than the first tries. I used the website calculator but am still concerned about a potential explosion near my face. I’ll just stick to tanks and factory coils.

So the HellBeast and Berserker are a bust for me. I’m looking for something new. I’m considering Innokin’s Zenith and Zlide. Could possibly go with an aspire Nautilus something or other. I don’t know enough yet. I had a Nautilus Mini years and years ago. That would look dumb for sure, if it would even fit. I see there’s a Nautilus X. I’m noticing a lot more options for sub ohm but I prefer lower watts burning less juice. But with higher airflow.

So I HellBeast on wondering repeatedly if vape juice causes oral cancer when applied topically. Time to get my grumpy self to sleep.
Are you using the atlantis coils in the hellbeast? If not I would encourage you to, lower watts and good flavor. Also a 510 dt will help with with flavor. If you like cinnamon vapes try a chai tea juice, Zeus has a good one.
 

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Is it possible to burn the wire when checking for hotspots?

Yes it can happen.

I’m not thrilled with the idea of figuring this out anymore. Building isn’t for me. The time, the handling of little things with achy hands, the electricity.
I did pretty decent in science class but electricity confuses and scares me. This last build attempt was with different wires than the first tries. I used the website calculator but am still concerned about a potential explosion near my face. I’ll just stick to tanks and factory coils.

I understand this. Maybe a different style deck might help easing you into building. You can also get made up coils so all you need to do is put them into the deck.

Here's an RDTA I would suggest as being a bit easier to build on. My Vapor Store has them at about $40.

I'm suggesting these due to the Velocity style deck. It was what I used to start building on, the Velocity V2 clones specifically. The post holes are fairly over sized at about 2 mm each hole. All you need to do is twist out the grub screws a bit, pass your legs through, tighten grubs, nip excess, wick and vape. You can find some good already made up coils and use a velocity style deck as single or dual coil.

I might also suggest you look into getting an ohm meter. You can build the deck while it sits attached to one of these and then read out what your ohms are set to do. That can help further avoid the fears of having something blow up in your face. It'll let you compare against the battery's rating so you don't make a build that'll push a battery to explode. Steam Engine is very helpful to guide us building coils too.

I find a decent safe zone on a single 18650 cell mech mod to be from 0.30 to 0.50 ohms. I could drop to 0.20 /0.25 but for me the vapor gets too hot and rated that low drains the batteries too quickly for my liking.Of course, I could increase coil mass but that also has its drawbacks, mainly it takes a while to ramp up.

You can find good made coils with Advanced Vaping Supply. There is also a number of folks here that make up coils to sell. @VAPEROXX , @raymo2u , @CrazyChef v2.0 make up coils to sell. If they're not able to get something set for you buy they can point you further along in a good direction.

Well, I need to put this here. I'm not trying to tell you what to do within in any of my posts regarding vaping. What I do is offer what's helped me along. You can take or leave any advice or suggestion. I have to write this because lots of folks seem to think I'm pushing stuff on new vapers. No, that's not me to push. Whatever way you find that suits you, is your best way and I'll not say otherwise. If you ask for help, well, here's what you get take it or leave it.
 

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Yes it can happen.



I understand this. Maybe a different style deck might help easing you into building. You can also get made up coils so all you need to do is put them into the deck.

Here's an RDTA I would suggest as being a bit easier to build on. My Vapor Store has them at about $40.

I'm suggesting these due to the Velocity style deck. It was what I used to start building on, the Velocity V2 clones specifically. The post holes are fairly over sized at about 2 mm each hole. All you need to do is twist out the grub screws a bit, pass your legs through, tighten grubs, nip excess, wick and vape. You can find some good already made up coils and use a velocity style deck as single or dual coil.

I might also suggest you look into getting an ohm meter. You can build the deck while it sits attached to one of these and then read out what your ohms are set to do. That can help further avoid the fears of having something blow up in your face. It'll let you compare against the battery's rating so you don't make a build that'll push a battery to explode. Steam Engine is very helpful to guide us building coils too.

I find a decent safe zone on a single 18650 cell mech mod to be from 0.30 to 0.50 ohms. I could drop to 0.20 /0.25 but for me the vapor gets too hot and rated that low drains the batteries too quickly for my liking.Of course, I could increase coil mass but that also has its drawbacks, mainly it takes a while to ramp up.

You can find good made coils with Advanced Vaping Supply. There is also a number of folks here that make up coils to sell. @VAPEROXX , @raymo2u , @CrazyChef v2.0 make up coils to sell. If they're not able to get something set for you buy they can point you further along in a good direction.

Well, I need to put this here. I'm not trying to tell you what to do within in any of my posts regarding vaping. What I do is offer what's helped me along. You can take or leave any advice or suggestion. I have to write this because lots of folks seem to think I'm pushing stuff on new vapers. No, that's not me to push. Whatever way you find that suits you, is your best way and I'll not say otherwise. If you ask for help, well, here's what you get take it or leave it.

That's what most of us do - we speak about our personal experience as best as we can in relation to the aspirations of new(er) vapers. After all, that's all any of us really have to offer - if there's any such thing as "Vape University," I've never heard of it. :)

The only time it rubs me wrong is when a member is clearly a brand new vaper and is being steered toward mechs and building on his/her own. That, I think, is a mistake, simply because (1) it makes the experience of vaping too challenging, there are just too many things to learn at once, and (2) it increases the risk of unfortunate outcomes for a new vaper. An "unfortunate outcome" can be anything from the new vaper becoming overwhelmed and deciding to give up, to an explosion or fire in a pocket and a resulting ambulance ride.

Not that it hasn't ever happened, but it's a rare brand-new vaper that can study and really comprehend the potential for an unfortunate outcome. You just don't know what you don't know.
 

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The only time it rubs me wrong is when a member is clearly a brand new vaper and is being steered toward mechs and building on his/her own. That, I think, is a mistake, simply because (1) it makes the experience of vaping too challenging, there are just too many things to learn at once, and (2) it increases the risk of unfortunate outcomes for a new vaper. An "unfortunate outcome" can be anything from the new vaper becoming overwhelmed and deciding to give up, to an explosion or fire in a pocket and a resulting ambulance ride.

I can agree with that being something irksome. I try to avoid doing that too. Might suggest it if it seems a vaper is ready, willing to learn. Otherwise though it is too risky.
 

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Hey, do you use the 1.8Ω BVC coil with your 8w?

Been a long time since I used 1.8 Ω coils. That aside iirc, you might even up from 8 watts to 15 watts. It's all going to depend on how you like your vapor, warm, or cool.

You can get your vapor too cool as well as too warm. Too cool and you might get a mouth of juice, too warm and it can feel as though you're vaping lava. It genuinely is going to be a trail by error subjective experience.

Been using roughly 0.30 to 0.50 Ω coils for quite a while now. Most often I'm running an average of 24 watts to 28 tops. I use single celled 18650 mechanical mods with single coil RDAs.

Lots drop to 0.25 or even lower Ωs on such a setup. For myself the range given above suits. Again, it's a subjective choice & how you do things comes to play as well. I just k.i.s.s..
 

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