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View attachment 155492 Did a set of these for the cueté rda.
26n80/36ss
8x.3 n80
28n80
40ss
Did a 5 wrap on a 3mm
Came to a warm .07

Very nice! I've done similar, but can't remember the specs or how the vape quality was.

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On another note... I tried to make a set of 2x32g, 6x0.2mm, 40g framed staple coils the other day and completely fucked it up. It's been a while since I've made any decent coils.
Yea it's been a while since I've made anything other than some fused Claptons. Still running all those aliens I got from you a while back too. Lol
 

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Somebody help me out. It looks like what we might have here is a simple fairly low gauge Clapton wound with some kinda razorback/mohawk out of maybe twisted square wire, and then wrapped in parallel with some stapled aliens. Or something like that. All I know is that somebody would have found me hanging trying to do something like this. I think the final wrap might have been the hardest part.
 
Hello. This is my first post. I'm one of those silent lurkers. Quietly in awe by these absolutely beautiful coils you guys create. Seriously blown away by the attention to detail and what must be the patience of a million munks. Been working my way backwards through this post (almost halfway through ;)). Im not really one to post much on forums but after reading some very friendly posts by @Shredtravolta I felt less silly sharing some of my pics. Nothing fancy but here goes:
First pic:
3 x 28*2/38 NI80 + 26 SS316L
4MM ID 8 wraps
0.19 ohms

2nd pic : 2 x 28ni80 / 10 x 0.3 Ka1 / 38 ni90 spaced alien

3rd pic. : 20 x 0.5 ni80 / 38 ni80. 0.1 ohms

4th pic : dual parallel 24gauge ni80. 3.5mm ID. 10 wraps. 0.2 ohms.

5th pic. 4 x 28 Ka1 + 38ni80 / 3.5mm id / 0.43 ohms

I'm quite a lazy impatient bugger and really dont like making decores. I was looking for a fast way to make decores as my battery powered drill was simply not cutting it. I came up with a plan to fuse a sewing pedal with a dremel type rotary tool and found around 5000 rpm is way better for (me for) making decores FAST. And I think the speed actually stops me from messing it up. I made a video for a friend who despises the decore about as much as me. I thought why not be brave and add it to my post. Maybe someone out there is in the same boat.

Here's the link, please be kind,
oh it was a really hot day so excuse my flattering gut .

Keep on building guys. You are an inspiration to so many people. So much respect for you guys.

I have a few more pics I can share but didn't want to dump my load on the first day

Ti

Ps.. 6th pic..... WTF did I go buy 52 gauge for. Holy F'n *hitballs I can hardly see it. It snaps thinking about it. 44 gauge fused claptons on my dremel is a 30 second giggle. But this is just OTT:eek:
 

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No, just make a single long spaced clapton that's so loose that the wrap wire can slide freely over the core across the entire length (and verify that it can), pull it through the hair grip while being careful not to decore your spaced clapton on accident, and then fold the spaced clapton in half so that the hair grip is dangling in the crease before you insert the hair grip into the chuck. The core wire needs to be a couple inches longer than the part of it that you spaced-clapton'd, so that you can attach both ends of only the core wire itself to your swivel (i.e. the wrap wire should not reach the swivel). Next, you should be able to fuse the two halves together at medium drill speed without missing a spot. Super easy.
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2nd post. Big day for me. Hahahha. It gets me when I can't get my wires centred in the chuck. And they start getting uneven tension from trying to recentre them. It's a highway to the bin

I have used those hairpins as well. Another option i find that works pretty good(for me) as well are these pins on a chain link shackle. As long as the hole is centered. I used my dremel to grind a little groove into the flat part from the hole in the direction of the wire, it acts as a seat for the spinning wire(s) and centre's it very nicely . Not sure if that makes sense.

Am I the only guy running my drill from right to left? Looked at the build stations thread and everyone does left to right. Hehehe
Ti
 

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Somebody help me out. It looks like what we might have here is a simple fairly low gauge Clapton wound with some kinda razorback/mohawk out of maybe twisted square wire, and then wrapped in parallel with some stapled aliens. Or something like that. All I know is that somebody would have found me hanging trying to do something like this. I think the final wrap might have been the hardest part.

base looks like a framed staple...then aliened over to create that hedgehog look using flat wire...then inlay the interlocking staple build on top of it ....so sort of 3 layers to that

Great work there so much to balls up along the way haha
 

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Hello. This is my first post. I'm one of those silent lurkers. Quietly in awe by these absolutely beautiful coils you guys create. Seriously blown away by the attention to detail and what must be the patience of a million munks. Been working my way backwards through this post (almost halfway through ;)). Im not really one to post much on forums but after reading some very friendly posts by @Shredtravolta I felt less silly sharing some of my pics. Nothing fancy but here goes:
First pic:
3 x 28*2/38 NI80 + 26 SS316L
4MM ID 8 wraps
0.19 ohms

2nd pic : 2 x 28ni80 / 10 x 0.3 Ka1 / 38 ni90 spaced alien

3rd pic. : 20 x 0.5 ni80 / 38 ni80. 0.1 ohms

4th pic : dual parallel 24gauge ni80. 3.5mm ID. 10 wraps. 0.2 ohms.

5th pic. 4 x 28 Ka1 + 38ni80 / 3.5mm id / 0.43 ohms

I'm quite a lazy impatient bugger and really dont like making decores. I was looking for a fast way to make decores as my battery powered drill was simply not cutting it. I came up with a plan to fuse a sewing pedal with a dremel type rotary tool and found around 5000 rpm is way better for (me for) making decores FAST. And I think the speed actually stops me from messing it up. I made a video for a friend who despises the decore about as much as me. I thought why not be brave and add it to my post. Maybe someone out there is in the same boat.

Here's the link, please be kind,
oh it was a really hot day so excuse my flattering gut .

Keep on building guys. You are an inspiration to so many people. So much respect for you guys.

I have a few more pics I can share but didn't want to dump my load on the first day

Ti

Ps.. 6th pic..... WTF did I go buy 52 gauge for. Holy F'n *hitballs I can hardly see it. It snaps thinking about it. 44 gauge fused claptons on my dremel is a 30 second giggle. But this is just OTT:eek:

welcome aboard...great builds mate love that almost naked framed staple
 
welcome aboard...great builds mate love that almost naked framed staple
Thank you.
I did enjoy that build I must say. Had it in a goon for a while.

I woke up this morning all inspired by this thread and thought id build a pair of simple 4 core fused Claptons(30x4/38 ni80) . I mean I've managed an alien with 5 cores @ 28g and Clapton with 6 cores @ 26 g. But yeah, 30 gauge is not 28 or 26 apparently. Those cores just folded every few centimeters. Couldn't get my slider further than a centimeter away. Maybe uneven tension on the cores. But I have gently placed the drill on the table and am walking away. I installed some framed Staples yesterday. They will do me just fine for today.... Just fine. :giggle:

Happy Sunday
Ti
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Thank you.
I did enjoy that build I must say. Had it in a goon for a while.

I woke up this morning all inspired by this thread and thought id build a pair of simple 4 core fused Claptons(30x4/38 ni80) . I mean I've managed an alien with 5 cores @ 28g and Clapton with 6 cores @ 26 g. But yeah, 30 gauge is not 28 or 26 apparently. Those cores just folded every few centimeters. Couldn't get my slider further than a centimeter away. Maybe uneven tension on the cores. But I have gently placed the drill on the table and am walking away. I installed some framed Staples yesterday. They will do me just fine for today.... Just fine. :giggle:

Happy Sunday
Ti
Pics attached of said 5 core alien and 6 core clapton

higher up you go less tension you can use on the wrap lead

...28/38 is my favourite combo (or 26/36 for the rowdier atties) ...what were you planning on putting them in?
 
higher up you go less tension you can use on the wrap lead

...28/38 is my favourite combo (or 26/36 for the rowdier atties) ...what were you planning on putting them in?

Thanks for the tip. I will try be lighter with the wrap wore. Maybe I'll give it a shot this evening again. I was thinking of installing it in the goon. I must say im enjoying squonking the framed staple from yesterday in my dead rabbit
 

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Thanks for the tip. I will try be lighter with the wrap wore. Maybe I'll give it a shot this evening again. I was thinking of installing it in the goon. I must say im enjoying squonking the framed staple from yesterday in my dead rabbit

Framed staples are fabulous and you got that down already! ...if at some point you start knocking aliens out consistently, you can combine them both to make a fralien ...I know stupid names haha

We have a tip thread in here somewhere ...the contents page is stickied in the build section so you can find it there if you haven’t read them already.

that Fralien build though is my personal favourite coil to date just spot on for so many atties
 
Framed staples are fabulous and you got that down already! ...if at some point you start knocking aliens out consistently, you can combine them both to make a fralien ...I know stupid names haha

We have a tip thread in here somewhere ...the contents page is stickied in the build section so you can find it there if you haven’t read them already.

that Fralien build though is my personal favourite coil to date just spot on for so many atties

I'll defnitly have a look for that thread. I've managed a few aliens allready. And the odd Mohawk. So I think I'll be able to do a fralien. Maybe I'll try it in a day or two. Thanks for the idea.

I ended up taking the left over naked wire from the failed 4 core Clapton and twisted it then I claptoned that with 38. Made a big single 4.5mm 5 wrap coil and installed it in the drop solo. Must say it's not bad at all. Crackles like machine gun fire in the distance. Hehehe

Here's another semi naked framed staple I made from scrap bits. I do enjoy these almost naked builds I must say.
3 x 0.3*0.1 Ka1 + 1 x 0.3x0.1 ni80
1 x 28 ni80
1 x 28 Ss316L
38 ni80
0.31 ohms
9.5 wraps @3.5mm ID

Second pic was wrapped around 2 screw drivers. I thought i would try maximize surface are. It wasn't a bad vape actually.
2 x 28 ni80(40 ni80)
1 x 28Ka1 + 1 x 28 Ss316L
wrapped Over 2 x 3mm bits
0.3 ohm
 

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I'll defnitly have a look for that thread. I've managed a few aliens allready. And the odd Mohawk. So I think I'll be able to do a fralien. Maybe I'll try it in a day or two. Thanks for the idea.

I ended up taking the left over naked wire from the failed 4 core Clapton and twisted it then I claptoned that with 38. Made a big single 4.5mm 5 wrap coil and installed it in the drop solo. Must say it's not bad at all. Crackles like machine gun fire in the distance. Hehehe

Here's another semi naked framed staple I made from scrap bits. I do enjoy these almost naked builds I must say.
3 x 0.3*0.1 Ka1 + 1 x 0.3x0.1 ni80
1 x 28 ni80
1 x 28 Ss316L
38 ni80
0.31 ohms
9.5 wraps @3.5mm ID

Second pic was wrapped around 2 screw drivers. I thought i would try maximize surface are. It wasn't a bad vape actually.
2 x 28 ni80(40 ni80)
1 x 28Ka1 + 1 x 28 Ss316L
wrapped Over 2 x 3mm bits
0.3 ohm

awesome work and great idea on the recovery :cheers:

I really like that second coil idea how’s it vape? I asked in the forum a little while ago about unusual shapes...does it keep up with wicking ok for squonking? Or more suited for a dripper
 
awesome work and great idea on the recovery :cheers:

I really like that second coil idea how’s it vape? I asked in the forum a little while ago about unusual shapes...does it keep up with wicking ok for squonking? Or more suited for a dripper
I enjoyed the vape. It was on the juicy side. I had it on a squonker and I have a habit of always squonking lightly as I take a pull. It's like second nature to me. I don't recall it running dry. But like I say I'm a wet squonker :p

Heres a coil that took me all of 5 minutes to make. I have a friend on his way over and he's been a great help to me in a tricky time. Thought I'd make him something quick. I got the idea scrolling this thread. Think it's a crocodile tail??

2 x 28 twisted not a lot, parralel with 26 and wrapped in 38. 3mm bit. All ni 80. No idea on ohms. But here he is pulling into the driveway so I'll see soon.

Have a great Monday
 

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I enjoyed the vape. It was on the juicy side. I had it on a squonker and I have a habit of always squonking lightly as I take a pull. It's like second nature to me. I don't recall it running dry. But like I say I'm a wet squonker :p

Heres a coil that took me all of 5 minutes to make. I have a friend on his way over and he's been a great help to me in a tricky time. Thought I'd make him something quick. I got the idea scrolling this thread. Think it's a crocodile tail??

2 x 28 twisted not a lot, parralel with 26 and wrapped in 38. 3mm bit. All ni 80. No idea on ohms. But here he is pulling into the driveway so I'll see soon.

Have a great Monday
That'd be a gatortail.

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Hello.
Just spun this up while having lunch.
2 x 28 Ka1 + 38 ni80 fuse
1 x 26 ni80
38 ni 80 spaced fuse
2.5mm bit.

Ill try them out later today

Cheers
Ti

Do you use a rolling pin after the build to flatten it all out?
 

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I have not built anything significant other than my own coils for a little while... but Daddy’s coming back home... Daddy’s coming back home and he has a bone to pick with Mommy... and that’s neither here nor there I’m just saying the builds will continue.:coffee2:
 
Heres a coil that took me all of 5 minutes to make. I have a friend on his way over and he's been a great help to me in a tricky time. Thought I'd make him something quick. I got the idea scrolling this thread. Think it's a crocodile tail??

2 x 28 twisted not a lot, parralel with 26 and wrapped in 38. 3mm bit. All ni 80. No idea on ohms. But here he is pulling into the driveway so I'll see soon.

Have a great Monday
I must say this coil has surprised me. Ive made a few variations as far as gauges used for the twisted core and the straight core. Its really good. Im surprised its not more popular, i at least have not seen it before this thread and never for sale anywhere. I feel it is almost a step up from a clapton. Having that higher gauge twisted wire core just gives it that something extra inside the clapton. It got me thinking about usong thinner wires twisted and making claptons with 2 x twisted cores. Or tricore claptons/aliens with the two outer cores being twisted. Or alien wrapping just the gatortail. Or using twisted wire as frames for framed staples...lots of time to ponder during lockdown. Im sure this must have been done.
 

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I must say this coil has surprised me. Ive made a few variations as far as gauges used for the twisted core and the straight core. Its really good. Im surprised its not more popular, i at least have not seen it before this thread and never for sale anywhere. I feel it is almost a step up from a clapton. Having that higher gauge twisted wire core just gives it that something extra inside the clapton. It got me thinking about usong thinner wires twisted and making claptons with 2 x twisted cores. Or tricore claptons/aliens with the two outer cores being twisted. Or alien wrapping just the gatortail. Or using twisted wire as frames for framed staples...lots of time to ponder during lockdown. Im sure this must have been done.
Have you tried Caterpillar track coils? I make them with about 30 cores of 38g wire, wraped with something between 30-34 gauge. Then pound the crap outta the wire, so it ends up looking like the treads on a Cat bulldozer. They're just a bit labor-intensive but have really great flavor.

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Also, it really helps to have a carbon rod coil jig when pulsing them for use, as the multiple cores like to move around a bit causing the coil to distort its shape when pulsing. A carbon rod inside the coil while pulsing will help the coil to retain its shape.
 

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Have you tried Caterpillar track coils? I make them with about 30 cores of 38g wire, wraped with something between 30-34 gauge. Then pound the crap outta the wire, so it ends up looking like the treads on a Cat bulldozer. They're just a bit labor-intensive but have really great flavor.

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How, pray tell, do you keep 30 strands of 38ga core wire straight? :confused:
 

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How, pray tell, do you keep 30 strands of 38ga core wire straight? :confused:
I use an eye hook in the drill, and weave(?) the 38g wire back and forth between it and the swivel. Then just start wrapping like a fused Clapton. Technically, I guess it is just a fused Clapton - with a crapload of cores.
and what do you fire them with ? looks like they need lots of power.
Not really, the inner wire is pretty thin. The mass is about the same as a staple coil.
i am thinking they are round sticks, then he hammers them to look like that.
Yup! Beat the crap outta them with a domed chasing hammer on a polished stainless steel jewelers block.
 

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If you wanna try it, you have to hammer each stick twice - once lightly to give the wire its basic flatness (and to TRY to straighten the cores and keep them from moving around too much), and a second time where you basically just beat the crap out of it to flatten the wrapping wire.
 

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I use an eye hook in the drill, and weave(?) the 38g wire back and forth between it and the swivel. Then just start wrapping like a fused Clapton. Technically, I guess it is just a fused Clapton - with a crapload of cores.

Not really, the inner wire is pretty thin. The mass is about the same as a staple coil.

Yup! Beat the crap outta them with a domed chasing hammer on a polished stainless steel jewelers block.

Berry Berry in2westing :D
 

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I got a set of those cat tracks from Chef once. They lasted a while. And great flavor. Damn that was so long ago. Maybe in a pulse 24mm but used it as single. Primo
 

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ok, i'm a builder now. my first real coils, 2x26-36 n80 10wraps 4mm .37ohm for the pair. i was aiming for .50 .
my question. how are these going to be on a series ? the ohm is kinda low, but a lot of mass ?
spool tamers are tight on those big rolls, almost didn't work.

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ok, i'm a builder now. my first real coils, 2x26-36 n80 10wraps 4mm .37ohm for the pair. i was aiming for .50 .
my question. how are these going to be on a series ? the ohm is kinda low, but a lot of mass ?
spool tamers are tight on those big rolls, almost didn't work.

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For simple series I normally run a fused Clapton 2.30.36 3mm 5 wrap for .37 and it’s really instantaneous

You can do 7 wrap for .49


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Also you can run a simple Clapton 26/36 3mm 7 wrap for .42 or 8 wrap for .49


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thanx. i have since figured out steam-tuners. checking my work says that i am doing it correctly. one thing i need to figure out, is the correlation between ohms and mass. those large coils above, they ramp slow'ish, but then hit very hard.
my series, i don't want hard. i want nice for a 4.2v.
 

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thanx. i have since figured out steam-tuners. checking my work says that i am doing it correctly. one thing i need to figure out, is the correlation between ohms and mass. those large coils above, they ramp slow'ish, but then hit very hard.
my series, i don't want hard. i want nice for a 4.2v.
Have you tried using a series style RDA?
 

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oh. i am using Carnage decks for series at the moment. and a vaporz cloud X1 on a stacked XXX, i just have big round wire coils in that. they work ok enough, but hit kinda hard and floavor is lacking.
 

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oh. i am using Carnage decks for series at the moment. and a vaporz cloud X1 on a stacked XXX, i just have big round wire coils in that. they work ok enough, but hit kinda hard and flavor is lacking.
GREAT job!!!

Try that. With a pair of 30Ts on the XXX it should be really good. I think at least. If nothing else it will give you a reference point to work from.

I think what @CrazyChef v2.0 is referring to is something like the Modfather series deck which is designed just for series builds. It has a neutral center post that makes a dual deck function as one long coil.
 

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GREAT job!!!

Try that. With a pair of 30Ts on the XXX it should be really good. I think at least. If nothing else it will give you a reference point to work from.

I think what @CrazyChef v2.0 is referring to is something like the Modfather series deck which is designed just for series builds. It has a neutral center post that makes a dual deck function as one long coil.


thanx. the stick and coils really do look good. i have that on the Lady Justice w/30t's. its just to much.

the series coils. it was one coils, but 2 coils, all one piece. there was a middle leg that conneted the 2 coils. of couce, i can't find the info now.
 

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