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Man do I ever have an itchy, itchy, trigger finger for the 30mm VCMT... I have been waiting to see if any other tank was going to be released that would top this, or at least have a better price. The only thing that seems to come close is the Ohmega Alpha tank, which I heard has questionable build quality and vape band airflow control. Vape band AFC is a huge turn off for me. I was hoping to see 26650 form factor tanks to gain more popularity on the market and more to be designed and released, but not seeing the push that I was hoping for. Especially with the tendency for massive, juice guzzling builds and high wattage.So I'm about to pull the trigger on the VCMT, with the hopes that it will be my dream tank. Meaning a tank so powerful that i will not outgrow it any time soon. This thing is basically a full size bottom airflow Velocity RDA surrounded by 10 ml of juice. I'm also leaning towards a RX200 mod to put it on. Knowing my luck, a dual 26650 regulated mod and a similar tank for half the price will drop the same day I pull these out of my mailbox?
You WILL have overhang with the 30mm on the RX200 and almost everything else there is...except a Joe Lit 44 Mod or Boxer DNA200 Mod..
I have the 25mm and I like it for its capacity and thats about it...I like the Griffin much more. If the VCMT would do the Juice Control differently, Maybe make the Deck bigger (on the 25mm) then I would like it more...I dont find it worth its price though...
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You WILL have overhang with the 30mm on the RX200 and almost everything else there is...except a Joe Lit 44 Mod or Boxer DNA200 Mod..
I have the 25mm and I like it for its capacity and thats about it...I like the Griffin much more. If the VCMT would do the Juice Control differently, Maybe make the Deck bigger (on the 25mm) then I would like it more...I dont find it worth its price though...
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Kennedy mode... Nice...

Not really too worried about the overhang.. The RX will be a temporary solution anyway. As far as those 2 mods that it would completely fit on, they are a bit pricey and I'm not after lipo packs at the moment. either a dual 26650 mod will drop soon, or I will make my own. When I find the time of course, lol. I have an ipv4 that shit the bed a few months ago. The 510 threads stripped out. I'm planning in transplanting the working guts of it into a custom wood box with a new 510. Maybe then I can make my dual 26650 wishes come true...
 
I created an account just for this thread. I own a 25mm and a 30mm VCMT and the trick to wicking is one simple trick- coil diameter. Anthony Tran(Vaperz Cloud owner) made this tank specifically for gigantic coils to be run at a very high voltage so when you can't figure out why your dinky little coils won't wick, that's why. Granted, there is a touch to wicking it so it doesn't leak but the bigger coils really help with dry hits and quick wicking. I'm personally running a set of 6/5 wrap, 38g/24g nichrome fused claptons with a 3.8mm ID that ohms out at 0.105. I make sure my wicks are super tight and I chain vape, never getting a dry hit. It took a bit to find the balance between coil diameter size, coil type, and wicking but now that I've figured it out it takes me 3 minutes to rewick. Here's how I do it:

(Preface: This takes practice to get right. You may not get it right using this method the first time but once you do, it's vaping bliss.) I cut the wicks to the full length of the channels, lightly juice them and set them in the channels then fluff them upwards a bit. I'll try to explain better- Tuck them in and do your best not to compress them(pressing them into the channels can pack the cotton down, making wicking more difficult) then take tweezers and push them upwards a bit, making sure they stay in the channels. When the wicks are set in, start screwing the chimney down without the glass. Tuck the wicks in the channels so the cotton won't get caught in the threads while being careful not to pack it down. When they're looking good, add a touch more juice to each channel to help them stay in place. At this point, reassemble the tank(taking care not to eff up the effort you just put forth wicking lol), fill 'er up, and get to vaping. The way that I wick it, I forgo using the juice flow ring at all and you can clearly see the cotton in the channels. I reiterate, however, that this is what works for me and the handful of people I've taught who use larger diameter coils. I can make a little 2 minute video showing the process if anyone is interested. This tank is beyond amazing once you get the wicking down. I've put seven or eight different builds in mine and so far and I personally think it was built for fused claptons with a large inner diameter. If anyone has questions, I'd love to answer them.

tldr; Wicking issues? Increase the inner diameter of your coils.
 

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I created an account just for this thread. I own a 25mm and a 30mm VCMT and the trick to wicking is one simple trick- coil diameter. Anthony Tran(Vaperz Cloud owner) made this tank specifically for gigantic coils to be run at a very high voltage so when you can't figure out why your dinky little coils won't wick, that's why. Granted, there is a touch to wicking it so it doesn't leak but the bigger coils really help with dry hits and quick wicking. I'm personally running a set of 6/5 wrap, 38g/24g nichrome fused claptons with a 3.8mm ID that ohms out at 0.105. I make sure my wicks are super tight and I chain vape, never getting a dry hit. It took a bit to find the balance between coil diameter size, coil type, and wicking but now that I've figured it out it takes me 3 minutes to rewick. Here's how I do it:

(Preface: This takes practice to get right. You may not get it right using this method the first time but once you do, it's vaping bliss.) I cut the wicks to the full length of the channels, lightly juice them and set them in the channels then fluff them upwards a bit. I'll try to explain better- Tuck them in and do your best not to compress them(pressing them into the channels can pack the cotton down, making wicking more difficult) then take tweezers and push them upwards a bit, making sure they stay in the channels. When the wicks are set in, start screwing the chimney down without the glass. Tuck the wicks in the channels so the cotton won't get caught in the threads while being careful not to pack it down. When they're looking good, add a touch more juice to each channel to help them stay in place. At this point, reassemble the tank(taking care not to eff up the effort you just put forth wicking lol), fill 'er up, and get to vaping. The way that I wick it, I forgo using the juice flow ring at all and you can clearly see the cotton in the channels. I reiterate, however, that this is what works for me and the handful of people I've taught who use larger diameter coils. I can make a little 2 minute video showing the process if anyone is interested. This tank is beyond amazing once you get the wicking down. I've put seven or eight different builds in mine and so far and I personally think it was built for fused claptons with a large inner diameter. If anyone has questions, I'd love to answer them.

tldr; Wicking issues? Increase the inner diameter of your coils.
I highly doubt my coils are the reason my juice isnt wicking. The people here that buy these tanks are using micro coils bud and most of us have been building for years...The VCMT 25mm doesnt hold as large coils as I thought it would and the Diablo RTA/Griffin RTA can hold a Coil thats bigger and wider due to chamber size (even though they are still 22mm). Ive tried many types of builds and every method of wicking it. Ive used alot of cotton and cotton that barely takes up the entire port, Ive tried different lengths of cotton tips protruding into the port. Every method seems to not keep up with the larger coils and I get dryhits below what I normally would in a Diablo or Griffin. If you've read through the thread you can see most of use have tried larger coils, some even barely fitting into the VCMT's and the wicking still didnt keep up.

If Vaper Cloudz would make some changes to the RTA it could be a much better product but as for right now it has functionality issues that limit the RTA's maximum performance capability. The Juice Control and the wicking system have flaws that could be easily remedied and the chamber cap could be increased in Diameter and pull away from the coils further. The Posts could be machined further down giving more room on the deck without even expanding further. If they would also knurl the Delrin Tip then refilling when using it would be a breeze, and lastly the Orings they used are way to thin-the Glass isnt properly held and because of this you need to drain the tank before taking the RTA apart instead of flipping the RTA over to cup the juice while disassembling it.
 

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comparing a griffin to a Vcmt, isnt even the same ball park. Now that a 25 mm version is in play soon for the griffin itmay be another story. hopefully they'll get rid of that genius 3.5 ml capacity lol. If it's leaking obviously your doing it wrong, good luck
 

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comparing a griffin to a Vcmt, isnt even the same ball park. Now that a 25 mm version is in play soon for the griffin itmay be another story. hopefully they'll get rid of that genius 3.5 ml capacity lol. If it's leaking obviously your doing it wrong, good luck
I may be collaborating with Augvape for a RTA so keep some money, if your looking at the VCMT...
 

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Nice, well if you're putting it up towards holding out on another vcmt, it sounds like a beastly tank. Build deck, airflow and liquid capacity sounds like a good time.
 

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Nice, well if you're putting it up towards holding out on another vcmt, it sounds like a beastly tank. Build deck, airflow and liquid capacity sounds like a good time.
http://vapingunderground.com/threads/boreas-designed-by-augvape-and-roxy.203162/page-3#post-979792
It might no be for a while but the VCMT is expensive so if you have a small budget and may not be able to get anything for a bit then waiting might be in your best interest. If not grab the VCMT now and the RTA when its down. Augvape seem pretty quick with pumping out the designs so it should be more then a few weeks.
 

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Dude that description of the tank is killer, would sell like hot cakes. Would love an all blacked out version. Al Roker would show up with those Plumes
 

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Dude that description of the tank is killer, would sell like hot cakes. Would love an all blacked out version. Al Roker would show up with those Plumes
Yea i love the vxmt but there are many things I would change about it and since there isnt a upscaled Griffin yet thats what I'm going for but with even more features. I have to sketch it up today and get feedback on the visual appeal also so stay tuned!
 
I put dental floss in all the o ring channels then replaced the other rings over the dental floss in the channels. Not saying this is the perfect solution but had this working for me about a week now and not a single drop has leaked yet!


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And I also left out the juice control ring when I did the dental floss...figured it would leak bad but still not a drop


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I highly doubt my coils are the reason my juice isnt wicking. The people here that buy these tanks are using micro coils bud and most of us have been building for years...The VCMT 25mm doesnt hold as large coils as I thought it would and the Diablo RTA/Griffin RTA can hold a Coil thats bigger and wider due to chamber size (even though they are still 22mm). Ive tried many types of builds and every method of wicking it. Ive used alot of cotton and cotton that barely takes up the entire port, Ive tried different lengths of cotton tips protruding into the port. Every method seems to not keep up with the larger coils and I get dryhits below what I normally would in a Diablo or Griffin. If you've read through the thread you can see most of use have tried larger coils, some even barely fitting into the VCMT's and the wicking still didnt keep up.

If Vaper Cloudz would make some changes to the RTA it could be a much better product but as for right now it has functionality issues that limit the RTA's maximum performance capability. The Juice Control and the wicking system have flaws that could be easily remedied and the chamber cap could be increased in Diameter and pull away from the coils further. The Posts could be machined further down giving more room on the deck without even expanding further. If they would also knurl the Delrin Tip then refilling when using it would be a breeze, and lastly the Orings they used are way to thin-the Glass isnt properly held and because of this you need to drain the tank before taking the RTA apart instead of flipping the RTA over to cup the juice while disassembling it.
Dude.... ya. 3-4 mm here.... anemic vape or runs out. So the thing is, I love the VCMT. No air restriction. And even when it is anemic, it still puts out a fair amount. Problem is, there is so much air, that after you get used to the output, it is just really thin. I have air flow closed down a lot, but then it is still not dense. And if it wasn't anemic due to TC, it would easily be a burnt hit. So you have a fire hose for a tank, but it only puts out thin vape.

Big coils, small, tight wicks, loose, channels stuffed, top of channel, thinned, thick... doesn't matter.... anemic, or it leaks. No inbetween. Soooo frustrating. I resort to opening the top... depending on my wick, I can leave it open or not. Point is I have to flood it. I have even just poured juice down it like a dripper. Oh ya, 8-9 spaced wraps of 4mm 24g is more than enough coil for a fog machine.... when it has enough juice.

I really can't say what the problem is. I think the deck is too tall. Channels too deep. Vacuum too much to pull up enough. Channels themselves are too big. Not enough cotton and it easily leaks. The most frustrating is no juice flow control. I don't even use that on my Griffin or others... but on this I could at least keep my wick loose and then close it when it leaks... but no such option. Other than that, no real problems. I don't care that you can't take the tank apart. My o-rings are good enough, I can take the tank of and it does not leak. I just have to be careful to not pull the glass off.... sure it's silly, but not a deal breaker. You just want it to chuck like you know it can... and no. Frustrating as hell.
 

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Dude.... ya. 3-4 mm here.... anemic vape or runs out. So the thing is, I love the VCMT. No air restriction. And even when it is anemic, it still puts out a fair amount. Problem is, there is so much air, that after you get used to the output, it is just really thin. I have air flow closed down a lot, but then it is still not dense. And if it wasn't anemic due to TC, it would easily be a burnt hit. So you have a fire hose for a tank, but it only puts out thin vape.

Big coils, small, tight wicks, loose, channels stuffed, top of channel, thinned, thick... doesn't matter.... anemic, or it leaks. No inbetween. Soooo frustrating. I resort to opening the top... depending on my wick, I can leave it open or not. Point is I have to flood it. I have even just poured juice down it like a dripper. Oh ya, 8-9 spaced wraps of 4mm 24g is more than enough coil for a fog machine.... when it has enough juice.

I really can't say what the problem is. I think the deck is too tall. Channels too deep. Vacuum too much to pull up enough. Channels themselves are too big. Not enough cotton and it easily leaks. The most frustrating is no juice flow control. I don't even use that on my Griffin or others... but on this I could at least keep my wick loose and then close it when it leaks... but no such option. Other than that, no real problems. I don't care that you can't take the tank apart. My o-rings are good enough, I can take the tank of and it does not leak. I just have to be careful to not pull the glass off.... sure it's silly, but not a deal breaker. You just want it to chuck like you know it can... and no. Frustrating as hell.
Im in collaboration with Augvape and we are creating a RTA that should check all the boxes for people like you and I. Think VCMT with Griffin capabilities scaled up, with more features....If you would like to check in on it click the link HERE.
 

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Im in collaboration with Augvape and we are creating a RTA that should check all the boxes for people like you and I. Think VCMT with Griffin capabilities scaled up, with more features....If you would like to check in on it click the link HERE.
Ya, I read that. Where do I pre order?

If you add some features, fine. Nothing wrong with the Griffin. Deck is great, but it isn't the VCMT tank. A 25mm Griffin is pure gold. I would have no issues.

And I soooo did not start out to be a cloud chaser. I could care less about a "cloud". but as the tanks put out more, it is really hard to step back. I have lowered my nic. Don't care about a cloud, but at least it's a lung full. If the VCMT performed as well as the Griffin... again, zero problems. So many tanks to choose from, so many options.... yet finding the right one is still a chore. I don't get it.
 

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Ya, I read that. Where do I pre order?

If you add some features, fine. Nothing wrong with the Griffin. Deck is great, but it isn't the VCMT tank. A 25mm Griffin is pure gold. I would have no issues.

And I soooo did not start out to be a cloud chaser. I could care less about a "cloud". but as the tanks put out more, it is really hard to step back. I have lowered my nic. Don't care about a cloud, but at least it's a lung full. If the VCMT performed as well as the Griffin... again, zero problems. So many tanks to choose from, so many options.... yet finding the right one is still a chore. I don't get it.
Thats what Im shooting for a VCMT/Griffin Mix with some added features. The wicking will be easier and the Airflow will be user customizable with changeable AFC rings. I still need to draw out the deck and the Airflow directories and then it should be on its way to CAD then a prototype will be created. I want to upscale the deck to 20mm wide (Griffin is 16mm) and make it so the post can be changed out for different sets. If all goes well it should be the end all to the RTA search and I am happy to be a part of the process. If you have any suggestions or ideas and want to pitch them in Im all ears.
 

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Thats what Im shooting for a VCMT/Griffin Mix with some added features. The wicking will be easier and the Airflow will be user customizable with changeable AFC rings. I still need to draw out the deck and the Airflow directories and then it should be on its way to CAD then a prototype will be created. I want to upscale the deck to 20mm wide (Griffin is 16mm) and make it so the post can be changed out for different sets. If all goes well it should be the end all to the RTA search and I am happy to be a part of the process. If you have any suggestions or ideas and want to pitch them in Im all ears.
Well.... The biggest thing would be a deep well. The deck has to sit deep. That is the whole point of RTAs... they are not limited to having to accommodate a pre-made cartridge/RBA. Leaves room. And while I like juice flow control... if it's done right, you don't need it. So those things to accommodate other stuff takes room.

Like you said, channels that channel and not have to pull juice up. Sit the deck deeper. I really think that is the biggest issue with the VCMT. With the threads for the chimney, and the silly afterthought of a control ring, the deck sits pretty high up from the inlets.

Oh.... and don't make the air flow control open on the bottom. The Griffin at least has the "washer" base. The Crius and the VCMT the ring is open on the bottom. So everything leaks down onto the mod. I think it is cool the way the air ports are cut into the base of the VCMT. Keeping them separated and easy to clean. But the ring just catches leaks and channels it to the mod. So I always have juice on my connection.

Minor stuff though....
 
I think anyone considering the Griffin would be more than pleased with it. I've got mine wicked up with a pair of 5 wrap fused Claptons and it works super nice. Lots of vapor with tons of flavor. I also just pulled the trigger and ordered the 30mm VCMT so I can't wait to give that thing a try but I love the Griffin.
 

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I'm a Vaperz Cloud junkie and I've had nothing but problems with this tank. Maybe the next build wicking will be different.
 

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So I finally pulled the trigger on the 30mm VCMT. Got the tank, an RX200, and 3 Samsung 25r's from Eciggity... $126 and change with "10percentoff" coupon code. Now it's just a waiting game. I'm curious to see how long it takes to get from Hawaii to Pittsburgh. In the meantime, I'm thinking of what type of coils to throw in it when it gets here. I'm hoping that I will be able to tame this tank without too many problems... Well see...
 

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So I finally pulled the trigger on the 30mm VCMT. Got the tank, an RX200, and 3 Samsung 25r's from Eciggity... $126 and change with "10percentoff" coupon code. Now it's just a waiting game. I'm curious to see how long it takes to get from Hawaii to Pittsburgh. In the meantime, I'm thinking of what type of coils to throw in it when it gets here. I'm hoping that I will be able to tame this tank without too many problems... Well see...
When filling the tank only put 2-3ml in if its a new wick or build if you dont know if its fine, otherwise its a bigger mess. The VCMT need alot of wicking and even when you think its fine, its better to loose 3ml then 11ml's
 

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When filling the tank only put 2-3ml in if its a new wick or build if you dont know if its fine, otherwise its a bigger mess. The VCMT need alot of wicking and even when you think its fine, its better to loose 3ml then 11ml's
Thanks for the tip... I can't wait to try it out. From what I have picked up on, there is a bit of a learning curve, but it seems that way with any rebuildable tank. I have 7 of them so far, they each have their own personality. I had to figure each one of them out, some were more difficult than others. But I tell myself that this thing would not be on the market if someone, somewhere got that "perfect" build/wick into it and have it simply kick ass...
 

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Thanks for the tip... I can't wait to try it out. From what I have picked up on, there is a bit of a learning curve, but it seems that way with any rebuildable tank. I have 7 of them so far, they each have their own personality. I had to figure each one of them out, some were more difficult than others. But I tell myself that this thing would not be on the market if someone, somewhere got that "perfect" build/wick into it and have it simply kick ass...
Mine works fine but the wicking is either dry or leaking....and beleive me I know how to build and wick...I just dont vape on it and most of the time I can get where I want with a build and settings and vape lightly on it before it feels "dry" and I have to slow/stop vaping.
 

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the Griffin is a great tank. Never leaked or got dry hits, and I'm no wicking wizard. My 30mm VCMT has emptied all 12ml of juice on more than one occasion. I tweaked the wicking a bit, but eventually opened the juice ring all the way.....then added one of those strips off the top of a kogendo pad that we normally peel off. on the OUTSIDE. secured it with some 36 gauge wire. There's some juice weeping out of the air flow holes when I top it off, but it's dry afterwards. The VCMT is like a bong compared to a cigarette. I mostly vape my Avocado, RDAs, and Griffin. But sometimes life, wife, and kid stress me out way too much. That's when I reach for the VCMT.

The overhang on my RX200/DNA200 Reuleauxs is driving my OCD crazy. So I ordered a Panzer DNA 200, which is 30mm wide and should fit the tank with paper-thin overhangs (the VCMT is 30.04mm in diameter at the base), which won't matter anyways because the tank will be centered. 75 watts, platinum oval chimney coils....if you're going to go big, go big!
 

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So I got my 30mm built yesterday. Dual parallel single core Clapton's, 26x32g ohms out to .20, 3mm ID. Running it at 110 watts on the RX200. On the third wicking attempt, I finally got it to hold juice and not puke it out all over my mod and hand. So far. I think. Still not overly confident though. I still don't trust it enough to fill completely though. This tank seems to make me completely go against everything I have ever thought myself in the past about wicking an RDA. If I were to pack any other so tight with cotton, it would surely dry hit. Anyway the vape I'm getting... HOLY SHIT...!!! The production and flavor are unlike anything I ever vaped before. When the day comes that I finally master it's incredibly pissy, picky wicking requirements, this thing can easily shelve anything I have ever had before. I also must mention the build quality. The o rings seem a little on the narrow side, but mine do not leak. Overall it feels very solid, and heavy. Smooth threads. And the black color, it seems like it is anodized or powder coated. Not a cheap paint job that will flake off. Overall seems like the build quality is worth every penny of the $65 price tag...
 

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the Griffin is a great tank. Never leaked or got dry hits, and I'm no wicking wizard. My 30mm VCMT has emptied all 12ml of juice on more than one occasion. I tweaked the wicking a bit, but eventually opened the juice ring all the way.....then added one of those strips off the top of a kogendo pad that we normally peel off. on the OUTSIDE. secured it with some 36 gauge wire. There's some juice weeping out of the air flow holes when I top it off, but it's dry afterwards. The VCMT is like a bong compared to a cigarette. I mostly vape my Avocado, RDAs, and Griffin. But sometimes life, wife, and kid stress me out way too much. That's when I reach for the VCMT.

The overhang on my RX200/DNA200 Reuleauxs is driving my OCD crazy. So I ordered a Panzer DNA 200, which is 30mm wide and should fit the tank with paper-thin overhangs (the VCMT is 30.04mm in diameter at the base), which won't matter anyways because the tank will be centered. 75 watts, platinum oval chimney coils....if you're going to go big, go big!

A silicone skin for your RX200 will take care of the overhang issue... Mine also fits well on my Tesla Invader 2. In the meantime, I'm waiting for a dual 26650 regulated mod to hit the market. Long overdue considering all the 25 and 30mm tanks currently being released...
 

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So I got my 30mm built yesterday. Dual parallel single core Clapton's, 26x32g ohms out to .20, 3mm ID. Running it at 110 watts on the RX200. On the third wicking attempt, I finally got it to hold juice and not puke it out all over my mod and hand. So far. I think. Still not overly confident though. I still don't trust it enough to fill completely though. This tank seems to make me completely go against everything I have ever thought myself in the past about wicking an RDA. If I were to pack any other so tight with cotton, it would surely dry hit. Anyway the vape I'm getting... HOLY SHIT...!!! The production and flavor are unlike anything I ever vaped before. When the day comes that I finally master it's incredibly pissy, picky wicking requirements, this thing can easily shelve anything I have ever had before. I also must mention the build quality. The o rings seem a little on the narrow side, but mine do not leak. Overall it feels very solid, and heavy. Smooth threads. And the black color, it seems like it is anodized or powder coated. Not a cheap paint job that will flake off. Overall seems like the build quality is worth every penny of the $65 price tag...
Ya, it's easy to get it to not leak. You just pack it full of cotton. But then it dry hits. Well, not for me. I'm TC only so it is anemic hit. Reducing cotton improves things, but then it leaks. All the videos on wicking just pack the juice ports. Well ya, no shit. But to get what the tank can do, that is much harder. I have not got to where it gives great vape, or leaks. Seems most had problems leaking, and then everyone said ...you are doing it wrong, pack the channels.... but then it dry hits.

The air flow is what is most impressive. Open or closed off... it is just so smooth. It really inspires going big. I really love the air flow. But getting juice to match is a trick I have not learned yet. Anemic or leaking. No in between. The juice flow control is pointless. If it sits, it isn't going to really going to control. Not unless you darn near closed it off. But if you could close it off, that would help. Then you could just let it leak, but close it when not vaping. At least then the tank wouldn't drain all over my mod.

And then I let it drain.... I just open the top cap. No vacuum. But even then... again, the wick is either too tight or runs out. It is a slight improvement over closed, but not much. So either still restrictive/anemic, or it leaks. Of course I have forgotten to close the top, or left it too long and then it is a mess. And when you realise it is leaking, and close the top... bigger mess. I can't vape that fast. :)

It really is a great tank. I like it. Inspiring... but then I can't get what it wants to give. Frustrating. Because nothing comes close to the draw and air flow and how it feels.
 

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I like to wick it like I do the Griffin. Fluff the wick as much as possible then cut the tips to the very top edge of the JC ring, if you coils are large then you will have a sufficient amount of wick then you can get enough coverage to cover the port and the tips will draw in juice fast. It on paper is a better delivery method then making a wall of cotton that absorbs the juice, cotton wicks best at its tips, rather then its sides.

Ill post some pics of my wicking soon, I have to rebuild and wick it anyways...
 

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Ya, it's easy to get it to not leak. You just pack it full of cotton. But then it dry hits. Well, not for me. I'm TC only so it is anemic hit. Reducing cotton improves things, but then it leaks. All the videos on wicking just pack the juice ports. Well ya, no shit. But to get what the tank can do, that is much harder. I have not got to where it gives great vape, or leaks. Seems most had problems leaking, and then everyone said ...you are doing it wrong, pack the channels.... but then it dry hits.

The air flow is what is most impressive. Open or closed off... it is just so smooth. It really inspires going big. I really love the air flow. But getting juice to match is a trick I have not learned yet. Anemic or leaking. No in between. The juice flow control is pointless. If it sits, it isn't going to really going to control. Not unless you darn near closed it off. But if you could close it off, that would help. Then you could just let it leak, but close it when not vaping. At least then the tank wouldn't drain all over my mod.

And then I let it drain.... I just open the top cap. No vacuum. But even then... again, the wick is either too tight or runs out. It is a slight improvement over closed, but not much. So either still restrictive/anemic, or it leaks. Of course I have forgotten to close the top, or left it too long and then it is a mess. And when you realise it is leaking, and close the top... bigger mess. I can't vape that fast. :)

It really is a great tank. I like it. Inspiring... but then I can't get what it wants to give. Frustrating. Because nothing comes close to the draw and air flow and how it feels.
I agree with what Raymo said... Wick must be big enough to completely fill the juice channels, but not packed tight. It seems as the 30mm tank is so big that gravity actually comes into play as well. If you fill it full, your wicks actually have to hold back the weight of all that juice. Therefore you can't leave a path in the channels for juice to escape. I am by no means an expert on this thing, I am still experimenting with this tank. Just my 2 cents. I wish you the best of luck. And of you find the holy grail of performance that this tank is capable of, please share how you did it, as well I...
 

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Dude.... ya. 3-4 mm here.... anemic vape or runs out. So the thing is, I love the VCMT. No air restriction. And even when it is anemic, it still puts out a fair amount. Problem is, there is so much air, that after you get used to the output, it is just really thin. I have air flow closed down a lot, but then it is still not dense. And if it wasn't anemic due to TC, it would easily be a burnt hit. So you have a fire hose for a tank, but it only puts out thin vape.

Big coils, small, tight wicks, loose, channels stuffed, top of channel, thinned, thick... doesn't matter.... anemic, or it leaks. No inbetween. Soooo frustrating. I resort to opening the top... depending on my wick, I can leave it open or not. Point is I have to flood it. I have even just poured juice down it like a dripper. Oh ya, 8-9 spaced wraps of 4mm 24g is more than enough coil for a fog machine.... when it has enough juice.

I really can't say what the problem is. I think the deck is too tall. Channels too deep. Vacuum too much to pull up enough. Channels themselves are too big. Not enough cotton and it easily leaks. The most frustrating is no juice flow control. I don't even use that on my Griffin or others... but on this I could at least keep my wick loose and then close it when it leaks... but no such option. Other than that, no real problems. I don't care that you can't take the tank apart. My o-rings are good enough, I can take the tank of and it does not leak. I just have to be careful to not pull the glass off.... sure it's silly, but not a deal breaker. You just want it to chuck like you know it can... and no. Frustrating as hell.

MMM I've got two and I have the Griffin also. Only times I get either a dry hit or leaking is when I don't wick it right. That and I do get very dense massive clouds with fused claptons, I do keep my coils at 3mm, the build deck is also larger than the Griffin.

I do get some build up but that's from weeping, this Tank really chucks and has a large enough build deck great for fused claptons. I do like my Griffin but I like the extra room of the VCMT. Downside of the Tank, yes the O rings are too loose and no knurling on the delrin cap. That and with fused claptons this Tank is mighty thirsty, I blow through juice with it. But damn the flavor and "dense" clouds is great.
 

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The Deck is bigger but the cap restricts your coil size...you can build bigger coils in the Griffin..
 

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The Deck is bigger but the cap restricts your coil size...you can build bigger coils in the Griffin..
I think that R055co maybe referring to the 30mm version. It's build deck is the same size as many 22mm drippers. I see what you are saying though, the 22mm Griffin's build deck is bigger than the 25mm VCMT's... Personally I'm interested in the 25 mm Griffin as well, I'm waiting for popular opinion on weather or not the top airflow option is an improvement on flavor...
 

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I think that R055co maybe referring to the 30mm version. It's build deck is the same size as many 22mm drippers. I see what you are saying though, the 22mm Griffin's build deck is bigger than the 25mm VCMT's... Personally I'm interested in the 25 mm Griffin as well, I'm waiting for popular opinion on weather or not the top airflow option is an improvement on flavor...
Maybe you should just wait for the release of my RTA...
Ill be buying the Griffin25 just to review and compare it but from the specs its the exact same internals with a wider shell...
 

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And all you guys are so right about the VCMT tank being thirsty... It is a diy only juice tank for me. Same with my Tfv4. Any store bought juice of mine goes into either my Bellus, Silverplay V2, or Kayfun v4...
 

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Maybe you should just wait for the release of my RTA...
Ill be buying the Griffin25 just to review and compare it but from the specs its the exact same internals with a wider shell...
Yours... 25mm shell, 17mm deck?
 

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There is no such thing as a thirsty tank. It vapes what power you give it. If you don't like going through so much juice, put smaller coils in. The whole point of bigger decks and tanks is bigger coils and more vapor.
 

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There is no such thing as a thirsty tank. It vapes what power you give it. If you don't like going through so much juice, put smaller coils in. The whole point of bigger decks and tanks is bigger coils and more vapor.
The volume of airflow plays a major role in juice consumption as well. For example I can (and have) put the exact same build in both my Chthulu v1 and my TFV4 (dual rba) Fed them both the same wattage. Same juice. Yet the TFV4 will blow through 5 ml almost twice as fast as the Chthulu v1 gets through 3.5ml. So yes, Some tanks are "thirstier" than others by design. I agree, as a general rule, the bigger the cloud (coil surface area x heat x airflow volume) the faster your juice consumption. I bought the VCMT for the sheer performance characteristics alone. I work in hazardous/toxic/explosive environments at work, obviously can't always take my vape with me. I wanted something to rip through as much of my $0.68/ml diy juice as fast as I can on my breaks, as I then have to go hours without. This does the job quite nicely.
 

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The volume of airflow plays a major role in juice consumption as well. For example I can (and have) put the exact same build in both my Chthulu v1 and my TFV4 (dual rba) Fed them both the same wattage. Same juice. Yet the TFV4 will blow through 5 ml almost twice as fast as the Chthulu v1 gets through 3.5ml. So yes, Some tanks are "thirstier" than others by design. I agree, as a general rule, the bigger the cloud (coil surface area x heat x airflow volume) the faster your juice consumption. I bought the VCMT for the sheer performance characteristics alone. I work in hazardous/toxic/explosive environments at work, obviously can't always take my vape with me. I wanted something to rip through as much of my $0.68/ml diy juice as fast as I can on my breaks, as I then have to go hours without. This does the job quite nicely.
Then reduce air flow. Bottom line is, 1 ml of juice is 1 ml. 1 gram of juice is one gram of vapor. Whether you go through 1 ml with 1 inhale, or 5 is completely dependent on you. There isn't anything inherent in a tank that makes you go through 2 grams of juice for only 1 gram of vapor.

Every bigger tank I get, I go through more juice because I'm playing around with it more. In a week or two I'm right back down to the same amount/use I was before. I generally go through 6 mls a day give or take 1 or 2. It hadn't changed much. But new tank/box... 10 mls for a bit. I've dropped my nic because I get huge clouds, but I don't use the same frequency. It's all relative.
 

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That's my design! Uploaded for your 3d printing convenience. Works great!

Nice! Does it kinda click into the base? I'm wondering if it's gonna slip off every time take the tank off the mod.

Any suggestions on material to get it printed? It's like $3.45 at shapeways for their strong and flexible plastic.
 

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I've retired both of mine (30mm & 25mm) to the dust bin, tired of the leaking.

For the 25mm the Boreas and for the 30mm the Modfather. Both of them are lightyears better than the VCMT. Plus easy to wick and no leaks at all.

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