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Having big time problems with RDA's and I'm looking for some advice. I have a few Kayfun's that I use most of the time and I have no issues with them. No matter what I do, I cough my face off with the RDA's. I'm using the same 6mg juice that I use in the Kayfun's but everything I do I end up coughing. I've tried coils from 1.2 ohm down to 0.3 ohm with all variations of airflow, and I get the same result. I'm also doing all mouth to lung inhales on both.

I've tried 4 different RDA's and I've tried single and double coil builds, but nothing changes.

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated, this is getting very frustrating.

Thanks, Brian
 

AmandaD

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Two things to try - reduce your nic by half. Most people have to reduce with RDAS, and it may be that 6mg is more than you need.

The other thing is either the pg or the vg. I found out after many, many months that more than about 10% VG makes me cough like crazy. Others have the same issue with PG. So it's going to be some trial and error for you, more easily solved if you have access to nicotine base, PG, and VG!

Incidentally, the lower ohms I go the more I cough. I rarely had this problem with little clearos!
 

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Are you using high PG juices?

That adds "throat hit" and at high wattage / low ohms it will choke ya.

Try using more VG IMO.

Assuming that your coils are wicking OK and you're not burning anything...
 

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What levels did you try? I ask because it might be that you have to all but eliminate one of them.

Or, if you're like me and smoked for 40years, it may be that you're going to cough whatever you vape - just less with some combinations!

Did you try lower nic?
 

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You might want to try a combo you've misssed - lower VG. The lowest you've tried has been 50%.

Easiest of all is if you can just get some plain PG and some plain VG and try dripping them alone. See if either/both make you cough (they both make me cough LOL).
 

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Honestly, no - that's why I moved purely over to DIY! But someone else can probably help on this one.

Wish I could be of more help!
 

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Honestly, no - that's why I moved purely over to DIY! But someone else can probably help on this one.

Wish I could be of more help!
Going to second this.
As much as I love trying what other companies do the mixture of flavors and "secret" blends of pg/vg do not lend well with finding what works for you.
 

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Mouth to lung is the issue also. If I mouth to lung my tobh with a wide bore I gag and cough also, but full on lung hit I have no issue.
Kayfun it is useful since the airflow is tighter.

Agree with this 100%. I would start here because you already have the 6mg juice and it's the easiest thing to try as it appears you've already tried different air flow adjustments. If this doesn't do it (although I suspect it will help tremendously) then I would step down your nic level to a 3mg and see if that helps.
 

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100% VG @ .9ohms/32.5w FTW!.........4 second hits.....head sounds like rice crispies........PURE LOVE!
 

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Any juice companies you'd recommend where you can get a good variety of pg/vg ratios, and obviously have it still taste good...?

This doesn't answer your question directly, but if you want a cheap place to try out a 70/30 mix, cuz that's the house blend and they only do their samples in the house blend, check out http://www.bootlegvapors.net/ . Only $1.25 for 5ml samples if you want to try some new flavors.

Actually, looking at their choices of ratios, they have a pretty broad spectrum. I can't really comment on flavor and quality yet, I've only just gotten my own samples, but also coming off being sick all weekend, so I'm still coughing on my own. :(
 
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I haven't seen the OP address the actual hit, unless I am missing it, so I would agree with the other posters that mentioned that actual inhale. The inhale on a wide open RDA vs. a Kayfun will be different for most. My cousin had a similar issue until I noticed he was taking, essentially, two inhales-- one into the mouth and one into the throat/lungs. Soon as he went direct to lungs, he was fine -- as long as the airlfow was sufficiently open.
 

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This might sound too simple for the advanced users,,, but I did it myself at first. Kayfuns have an air channel that is right below the coil. On an RDA If your air hole is not in line with the coil, you will cough your lungs out, get terrible vapor production, and the taste will not be what you want.
 

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You might want to try a combo you've misssed - lower VG. The lowest you've tried has been 50%.

Easiest of all is if you can just get some plain PG and some plain VG and try dripping them alone. See if either/both make you cough (they both make me cough LOL).
I wouldn't recommend 100% PG to my worst enemy.o_O
 

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the PG is really only there to provide a throat hit that smokers crave. it doesn't provide as much vapor or flavor, and in larger ratios, it's very harsh.
Now if you are using an RDA, 50% propylene is VERY noticeable. as in it feels like you just ripped 4 cigarettes at once. using 100% VG or at least 70/30, VG, you will get a lot more flavor, more vapor, and a much more pleasant, smooth hit. But I suppose, as with most things, it comes down to personal preference, I prefer a big, smooth, tasty cloud, over a rough, powerful throat hit.

Plus, it's much a thicker liquid which is a plus with RDA's, and in turn, it goes a lot further than a thinner juice with mostly propylene.
 

AmandaD

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Actually, the pg carries flavor much better than PG. The VG is better at providing vapor. I use RDAs exclusively, and since I switched to vaperstek nic the throat hit, even with PG, is negligible at 6mg.
 

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Actually, the pg carries flavor much better than PG. The VG is better at providing vapor. I use RDAs exclusively, and since I switched to vaperstek nic the throat hit, even with PG, is negligible at 6mg.
Maybe it's just me :confused:
in my experiences, I found much better flavor in the VG based liquids than the PG. the PG to me, felt like I was puffing on toxic waste lol
 

AmandaD

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Maybe it's just me :confused:
in my experiences, I found much better flavor in the VG based liquids than the PG. the PG to me, felt like I was puffing on toxic waste lol

Nope, PG is known as the flavor carrier. Flavors take much longer to come out in VG, and may require longer steeping/higher flavor levels.

Toxic waste? You do know PG is used in asthma inhalers and, until recently, hospital air conditioning systems, right? LOL Perhaps you've had some bad PG.
 
I may have missed it but for me different brands produce different hits at same nic level, some give a strong throat hit others do not. Also are you using the right wicking material, i use cheap Organic cotton and it works well but if i dont prime after re wicking i caugh like hell
 

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Nope, PG is known as the flavor carrier. Flavors take much longer to come out in VG, and may require longer steeping/higher flavor levels.

Toxic waste? You do know PG is used in asthma inhalers and, until recently, hospital air conditioning systems, right? LOL Perhaps you've had some bad PG.
I mustve cause every rip felt like I inhaled something deadly haha
 
I tell you I use a kayfun and rdas...whatever nic level you use in a kayfun cut it in half for a dripper pg/vg ratio shouldn't matter nearly as much but lean towards more vg unless you are allergic to one or the other.. Make sure you straight lung hit with an rda if you are building subohm and make sure your rda has enough airflow to handle the build...lower ohm builds needs more airflow directly to the coil..if you are new to rdas lung hitting in itself will make you cough for maybe a day or to until you get use to taking such a powerful vape..n e ways it takes time biggest thing being airflow and nic level Inmy experience...your gonna get a lot more vaporized nic with a low ohm coil therefor your usual kayfun draw at 6mg will be nothin like a dripper at .3 ohms with 6mg trust me cut your nic in half at least for the rda and use the 6mg in your kayfun this is exactly what I do and you will see why..
 

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I just started dripping. Coughed like a bitch on prebuilt .4 ohm. Built a 0.7 and started lung inhaling harder. With airy atties i think it's smoother to hit it hard. More cool air mixes with the hot vapor and it also makes bigger clouds. Good luck.
 

fq06

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A bunch of good suggestions... coil positioned correctly in the path of air, less PG for less throat hit, cut nic level from your kayfun in half, lung hit on a dripper and so on.

I vape 6mg nic in a kayfun (haven't touched it since the orchid came out) but 6mg makes me cough in a dripper or my orchid.

Vaped my buddies 18mg in his orchid and I turned a nice shade of green and could feel a bead of sweat forming on my forehead along with a nic buzz like I just slapped 3 max level nicotine patches on my arm lol. Coughed my ass off too.

Try to grab a 3mg botttle of juice that you already have in 6mg so you can see if that's it. Same vendor, same flavor, no variables other than the nic content.
 
Lol yea I was in my local madvapes once and all of there testers are just 0mg bottles you can drip with..well one day I drip a flavor to test and apparently someone accidentally put a bottle of 18 mg up there by accident...took my breath away I couldn't breath right for 10 minutes..had to change my wick and coil because there was way too much nic in my dripper..n e ways I'm pretty sure it's the nic..try 3mg..it's hard for a lot of people to lung hit 6mg I can do it but it makes me cough
 

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Having big time problems with RDA's and I'm looking for some advice. I have a few Kayfun's that I use most of the time and I have no issues with them. No matter what I do, I cough my face off with the RDA's. I'm using the same 6mg juice that I use in the Kayfun's but everything I do I end up coughing. I've tried coils from 1.2 ohm down to 0.3 ohm with all variations of airflow, and I get the same result. I'm also doing all mouth to lung inhales on both.

I've tried 4 different RDA's and I've tried single and double coil builds, but nothing changes.

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated, this is getting very frustrating.

Thanks, Brian

This might sound a bit daft but I had the same problem,
The problem was that I forgot to line up the air hole with the coil like I said a bit daft,
See from my experience with a kayfun is that its glorified dripper only it forces you to build your coil over the air hole,
And if your using the same juice that you have no problem with in your kayfun then I cant see it being your juice

I cough like crazy with all juices in a dripper if the airhole is off the coil
I also mouth to lung normally,

Sorry to ramble but you could give it a try
 

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