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So I have been vaping on Tanks the whole time, and have been curious about dripping. What I don't understand is how they are different. They both use the same principles (heating of liquid on cotton to produce vapor), so I don't understand the science of why they are different.

So far it just looks like dripping is more tedious than tanks. Is the shorter distance from coil to drip tip on drippers make THAT big of a difference in flavor/vapor?
 

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How long is VAPING TANKS the whole time?
Tanks vs DRIPPERS are very different
Principle you say? Same principle, different function!
yes.... Dripping produces IN YO FACE FLAVOR...
If you build it right

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Khaoticfury

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How long is VAPING TANKS the whole time?
Tanks vs DRIPPERS are very different
Principle you say? Same principle, different function!
And yes.... Dripping produces IN YO FACE FLAVOR...
If you build it right

Thanks you for your service sir


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Been vaping for about 4 years
what different function?
 

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The newer RTA are actually a RDA with a tank. Like the Augvape Boreas and the Steam Crave Aromamizer Supreme for example.

that's why I was asking why they are different....I am using a Gemini RTA right now, and with the ultra wide bore drip tip, super airflow, and big ass clouds, I just don't see a difference over drippers......but I don't have experience with drippers, so I am asking how they are different
 

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Been vaping for about 4 years
what different function?

They both produce vapor In a different way

TANKS
CLEAROMIZERS, RTAS,RDTA...
You put ur juice in a TANK CORRECT?!
Juice sits there to be VAPE Right?
CLEAROMIZERS
You purchase pre made coils

RTAS (REBUILDABLE tank atomizers)
You build ur own coils, you put ur own cotton
You put the juice.. (Advance VAPERS)
RDTA (REBUILDABLE dripping atomizers)
Same, as RTAS...

DRIPPERS/ (RDA) REBUILDABLE dripping atomizers
You build ur own coil, you put ur own wicking material, cotton,mesh etc.... You drip the juice on top of the coils you built... VAPE
(ADVANCE VAPERS)

Whatever works for you to stay off the CIGS is
There's a lot of info on ytube, it's a great resource of Infos,
 

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that's why I was asking why they are different....I am using a Gemini RTA right now, and with the ultra wide bore drip tip, super airflow, and big ass clouds, I just don't see a difference over drippers......but I don't have experience with drippers, so I am asking how they are different
RDAs always had the edge because they had more airflow, more space for coils, and can run at higher wattages. But they are sort of merging together more and more all of the time. But you are still somewhat limited in how crazy you can build in a RTA.
 

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Maybe im the only one but to me less distance doesn't equal more flavor. If that was true vaping without a driptip would make a noticeable difference in flavor. Even when i used a subbie i'd take a couple pulls directly from the rba after building it. That's about as close you can get a coil to your mouth and there was no difference. Also i think with all the new tanks out rda's are just a pita. The only time i use an rda is testing my diy. I get they were the bee's knee's when all you had for tanks was the kayfun. But imo there's no point in dripping and driving anymore.

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Like ej said...RDA's are flavor like none other...!

Squonkers are even better, push the bottle so juice flows into the bottom of a bottom fed RDA, eliminates the dripping with flavor in your face vaping.

If you must, you can also drip with a squonk box - great for testing new juice flavors.
 

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that's why I was asking why they are different....I am using a Gemini RTA right now, and with the ultra wide bore drip tip, super airflow, and big ass clouds, I just don't see a difference over drippers......but I don't have experience with drippers, so I am asking how they are different
The new RTAs have done a great job cutting out most of the differences between the tanks and drippers. I'd still say RDAs have some slight advantages but for the convenience, well there's a reason I use my RTAs most often.

RDAs IMO are better flavor, I think distance makes a difference. I assume as the vapor cools the flavor is affected. Then you also have the wicking of RDAs, not only are they far easier to wick, but you can also easily drip and know that wick is ready to be blasted full power for a nice full 'punch you in the face' vape. RTAs have that fine line of wicking, max it's speed while not having it leak, it's tough to hit it just right that the wicks are always saturated well.

Then there's the overall size and aesthetics. They just look nice and aren't bulky in general. That in general is another good point, as it doesn't fit all RDA find me a 40mm tank. There are 30mm tanks, but none of them have the build space of a 30mm RDA that I've seen. And even the Boreas (which is awesome) I'd imagine could have a larger build deck if it was an RDA.

So there are still reasons for having them, and like said, squankers take that inconvenience right out of the picture, and even dripping isn't bad if you're in the right situation. (I still favor an RTA though, but drippers do have some advantages).
 

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I have tanks and I have drippers for different types of liquids.

I have used my favorite NET on both and at least for me, taste was no different. Taste did differ between the 3 tanks, but mostly because of air.

If it werent for my love of NET, which are gross as any NET lover will attest to.

Those I use in my drippers. Why? because they are pain in the butt , they require daily wick changes and more if I really do a NET binge.

Its just easier for me to access the wick and coil on an RDA and rip that gross turd looking piece of cotton and replace. Plus an RDA at least the one I use, is part of the enjoyment for me. Its more relaxing, and the clouds are bit less, and draw is a bit tighter, adds to the tobacco experience.

My RTAs are always filled with light mints or light fruit. Those are my main atties. Those are for basic puffing, stress reliving, etc.

What I am puzzled by is : when is an RDA no longer really an RDA but a tank?

IF the juice well is really deep and holds a ml or more, isnt this now a tank? When you squonk, is it now in essence a bottom fill tank?

Better RTAs now basically auto drip, as the atty has a reservoir holding the liquid separate from the deck. ie FLash-e-Vapor, Taifun GSL/ GS and others.

ITs not a vacuum type feeding, its just suspended over the wicks and it slowly feeds the wicks as needed.

Just my odd thoughts. Its all in your style of pleasure you need from vaping.
 

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Those I use in my drippers. Why? because they are pain in the butt , they require daily wick changes and more if I really do a NET binge.

Its just easier for me to access the wick and coil on an RDA and rip that gross turd looking piece of cotton and replace. Plus an RDA at least the one I use, is part of the enjoyment for me. Its more relaxing, and the clouds are bit less, and draw is a bit tighter, adds to the tobacco experience.

Wow really? I can't think of anything that I treat like whores except my RDAs. It's my only escape. Don't change the wick between flavors? No problem (you might actually learn that you like two flavors mixed together). And if you don't like the two mixed, no problem since the old will pass away very quickly. And change the cotton daily? Is that a real thing?
 

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LOL, didnt mean to "shock" anyone... Its just my opinon/ experience. I should photograph my " wick " when I change it.

Its disgusting and the flavor goes from good to ashy, burnt in a few hours. Im sure its my choice of NET is the cause for wick change, or maybe my taste buds are finicky?

I dont mind mixing different tobaccos, Ive never had a bad experience , most tobaccos do well together.

I dont think my dry, grassy tobaccos would blend well with minty pineapple-strawberry. I do mix all my mints and light fruits.

Its a real thing.... I guess im a "FREAK" :D
 

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LOL, didnt mean to "shock" anyone... Its just my opinon/ experience. I should photograph my " wick " when I change it.

Its disgusting and the flavor goes from good to ashy, burnt in a few hours. Im sure its my choice of NET is the cause for wick change, or maybe my taste buds are finicky?

I dont mind mixing different tobaccos, Ive never had a bad experience , most tobaccos do well together.

I dont think my dry, grassy tobaccos would blend well with minty pineapple-strawberry. I do mix all my mints and light fruits.

Its a real thing.... I guess im a "FREAK" :D
Naw it's just what NETs are, they're cool and tasty, but fact is they have particulate in them that most juices don't. So of course that's going to cause issues and be better suited for RDAs where you can easily clean/rewick when it goes bad. Only tried a few NETs, one of them was my favorite, it was a Lime + Cardamom flavored one so a sweet/tangy + bitter, just great, but when I used it in a tank the coils were strait black and gunky gross after like 1-2ml of the stuff, did some research and realized my mistake :oops:
 

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Naw it's just what NETs are, they're cool and tasty, but fact is they have particulate in them that most juices don't. So of course that's going to cause issues and be better suited for RDAs where you can easily clean/rewick when it goes bad. Only tried a few NETs, one of them was my favorite, it was a Lime + Cardamom flavored one so a sweet/tangy + bitter, just great, but when I used it in a tank the coils were strait black and gunky gross after like 1-2ml of the stuff, did some research and realized my mistake :oops:

Whats odd is that when I do my thing with the cigars, if I let them sit , covered in PG/VG for 3 months what I get is a very light , clean extract.

When I heat it up gently a few times during the " ripening" the same cigar/ mix gets amber to dark brown and thats where I get the real gross caramalization happening on my coils. I think cold extraction does not cause those heavy duty particulates, I can go through about 4ml with those before it become " a wick turd" On the heat assisted / heat extractions of tobacco, its 2ml MAX.

ANyway, since this is supposed to be RTA VS Drippers. I dont see it as a versus. Its all in your style and tastes, and most of all what gives you the most enjoyment.

Here is why I must change wicks and dry burn daily

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Do both. Get a squoker.

All the benifits of both dripper and tanks.

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I don't have a squonker yet, is there a way to easily cut off the flow for tossing into your pocket? I always vape my dripper dry before pocketing it so that's not an issue but an open squeeze bottle in my pocket even with some cotton in the way... well sounds like an issue.
 

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Mine doesn't leak.... unless I over squonk or leave the coil saturated. Certainly leaks less than any tank I have tried. No worse than a regular dripper.

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I am a fairly new builder. Just got into wrapping twisted coils. I gotta say as I get better at building the vape on my drippers gets better and better. Not ready to put my Crown down just yet but its going to happen. Just a matter of time. Next build... my first Clapton.
 

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I don't have a squonker yet, is there a way to easily cut off the flow for tossing into your pocket? I always vape my dripper dry before pocketing it so that's not an issue but an open squeeze bottle in my pocket even with some cotton in the way... well sounds like an issue.


I carry an REO with a Chalice III clone almost everywhere - put it in my backpack, pocketbook, and it has spent many a night sideways on my nightstand. Never a drop.
 

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Today's tanks almost eliminate needing drippers. I just brought an Aromamizer Supreme and its nasty. Have a Herakles RTA and it's equally as nasty. And dripping and driving is dangerous. VCMT 30 beats any dripper
 

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Ive had squonkers at the time it was the same shit as rda just bottom fed i dont see how its any different now?
As far as flavor my experience has been the following, in order from best to less.
1.Genny style rebuildables
2.Rdas
3.Anything else.
Granted, ive had rda builds that give me flavor gennys couldnt, probably due to vapor production giving MORE rather than the concentrated flavor gennys give.
Another thing to consider is i havent used a tank since them aerotanks or the atlantis. All i use are drippers. So maybe theyre better now, but i doubt it

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Today's tanks almost eliminate needing drippers. I just brought an Aromamizer Supreme and its nasty. Have a Herakles RTA and it's equally as nasty. And dripping and driving is dangerous. VCMT 30 beats any dripper

I agree with you on the VCMT 30mm. Not very many competitions in my area, but next one that o find out about, I will show up with my VCMT...
 

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Ive had squonkers at the time it was the same shit as rda just bottom fed i dont see how its any different now?
As far as flavor my experience has been the following, in order from best to less.
1.Genny style rebuildables
2.Rdas
3.Anything else.
Granted, ive had rda builds that give me flavor gennys couldnt, probably due to vapor production giving MORE rather than the concentrated flavor gennys give.
Another thing to consider is i havent used a tank since them aerotanks or the atlantis. All i use are drippers. So maybe theyre better now, but i doubt it

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Griffin stop it...
BOREAS made me forget about it
Supreme made Made me say FUCK IT
 

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I have RTA's that are basically RDA's with a section for juice...thats the best thing...
Boreas is one of the best RTA's there is in this sector...
 

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Not looking to start an arguement but when i use something like a 510 tip the flavor and vapor get slayed, i dont see how the boreas could be as good as a dripper when the vapor has a chimney to travel through...
Might have to investigate this further.

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Ive had squonkers at the time it was the same shit as rda just bottom fed i dont see how its any different now?
As far as flavor my experience has been the following, in order from best to less.
1.Genny style rebuildables
2.Rdas
3.Anything else.
Granted, ive had rda builds that give me flavor gennys couldnt, probably due to vapor production giving MORE rather than the concentrated flavor gennys give.

Wow! My genny atomizers never gave me much flavor. But I always tried building them with cotton and not with mesh.
 

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Not looking to start an arguement but when i use something like a 510 tip the flavor and vapor get slayed, i dont see how the boreas could be as good as a dripper when the vapor has a chimney to travel through...
Might have to investigate this further.

I have my Augvape Boreas and a Steam Crave Aromamizer Supreme coming in the mail. I haven't done anything with the Boreas yet, but it looks very promising to me.
 

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Not looking to start an arguement but when i use something like a 510 tip the flavor and vapor get slayed, i dont see how the boreas could be as good as a dripper when the vapor has a chimney to travel through...
Might have to investigate this further.

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Its all about internal volume + heat flux bud...If your not building to utilize all the space provided then you wont get the results your looking for. No RDA/RTA/Genny are different if you build to optimize for each device, in larger devices the space will need to be filled with larger coils/hotter builds to achieve the same results but if your already building like that then your all set. One size of coils and types of coils dont suit everything, it takes some tuning.

Genny + Micro Coils/Meshing = Good Flavor
Derringer Sized RDA + Macro Coils or Twisted Coils = Good Flavor
Twisted Messes RDA + Parallels/Claptons/Staging/Fused Claptons = Good Flavor

Anything Larger will need to be toyed with until you find the perfect matching coil set for great flavor. If your doing the same build in everything then you will not get the best experience for each device, they are all different and will need some effort and time to find what works right.
 
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martnargh

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I still believe the trip the vapor takes from the coil to your mouth to be a big contributor to flavor.

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BillW50

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I still believe the trip the vapor takes from the coil to your mouth to be a big contributor to flavor.

We can test that theory by connecting a two foot hose to our drip tips and see if it is different. But wouldn't that be like hookah vaping?
 

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Do it and the experience will be different...

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martnargh

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Heat is a contributing factor to flavor, which is why food tastes different hot.

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Mart is out of touch in the VAPING world... All we trying to say is that there are tanks out there that are dripper like, build it right, wick it right, power it right, dripper like...
You should get out of that bubble my friend... the distance is irrelevant
But whatever works for you men..


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I cant deny those tanks have to have something good about em or else people wouldnt go crazy about em, mostly because ive never tried one of the newer subohm tanks, or rtas.
But the idea that the distance vapor travels is irrelivent to the flavor of the vapor shows you dont know too much about it..... that much i can account for because i have long drippers , like the odeon, that taste different than lets say normal sized drippers, than lets say snub nose drippers, like minis, regardless of what build you throw in em.
Could also be i am stuck in the past and thats alright too.

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martnargh

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Im almost tempted to buy one of those things just so not say ive never tried one.

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If you want I can sell you a Diablo RTA I have extra and trhow a build in it for you...Im sure that will change your whole view on RTA's....
 

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Hold off until tuesday though i just spend like 500 bucks on vape shit this week my wife has that eagle eye over the account and on tuesday money comes in so i can fly shit under the radar.
But if youre down, ill bite.

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Just an offer on the table, dont feel obligated if your not interested. I dont gouge people and only would charge for the RTA ($14+Shipping) and Ill Mount/Wick them for you so it will be all set to go, The vape off some Mini Framed Staples in a Diablo is one of the better RTA experiences Ive had and Im sure it will fill the void you feel there is with them.
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martnargh

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Shit looks cool. Ill do it if you want pm me the info on how you want the money ill shoot it right now.

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