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AndriaD

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Hey y'all; g'mornin' and GFYs. I'm kinda lurking; playing with my new phone, and trying to not be too depressed about the fucking FDA bullshit. C'mon congress, c'mon lawsuits!

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AndriaD

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Speaking of my new phone... I've been answering phones since I was in single digits. Whoda thunk it could be so difficult to learn how to answer a phone just because it's mobile? :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

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The way I read it the study must be performed by the manufacturer of the product or someone they pay to do the study and done to FDA requirements with the results submitted with the PMTA application.
and with juice it will require studies on ALL of the flavorings and ingredients used in EACH product.

I just can't see it happening except by a very large company on a very limited variety of juices.

I havent read the 500 page regulations, but I read a lot about it and from what I am understanding the entire intent of the regulations is to put an end to vaping. Everyone knows B&M's main business is selling juice. It is what keeps a B&M in business. The regs require them to test each juice to the tune of @ 1 million. So lets say the have a house juice flavor called pony farts that they sell in 3mg, 6mg, 9mg and 12mg nic levels. The FDA deems each level as a separate sample and each will require testing at the tune of @ 1 million each. That alone is what makes it blatantly clear the intent of the regulations is to put an end to vaping.
 

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Palm derived, soy derived and kosher VG. Essential depot now carrys all three. Does anyone know if there is any taste difference between them? They did say their vape customers loved the soy which is the cheapest.
 

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I have some NOW brand Palm derived and like the Essiential Depot cheap stuff better.
Kosher? You can make VG from that?

I ordered the Kosher from them before and its good VG. Opened my last gallon last week when I was home and need to order some more. Palm 4 gal for $45 is not a bad price at all. Kosher is 2 gal for $39 with free shipping.

From what their website says they only sold palm VG until april this year and now also offer soy VG which is US made and cheaper. Might go ahead and order two gallons for $39 and a gallon of soy to try.
 

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I just went over there to check it out, and you're still showing as a supplier associate. But when I try to go to your profile page, it won't let me. It says that the member limits who can see their profile.
 

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I just went over there to check it out, and you're still showing as a supplier associate. But when I try to go to your profile page, it won't let me. It says that the member limits who can see their profile.

Right. Because they suspended me again. That's what they did the first time, too.
 

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Strange, Roxy. I did a search for you over there and some of the icons gives me a blank page, but others, don't. I was able to go and initiate a conversation, although I didn't go through with it.
 

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I had to try not to be TOO vulgar. I'm kinda fucking pissed right now. Those "we the people" petitions.... they're fucking useless
I'm pissed too. All those petitions, letters and whatnot, all for nothing, it appears. Those assholes had it in mind to do exactly what they're doing regardless of how many letters and signatures they got.
 

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I'm absolutely fucking disgusted
Pretty much. Name of the game now is collect as much money as possible in the process of squeezing the life out of the industry. Not only do they get to crush it, they get a bonus for doing so. Once individual states wipe their chins off and dig in, they get to tax the the shit out of everything that is left. They all make piles of cash and more people go back to killing themselves and others with smoking.

Another public health crisis averted, thanks to the hard work and dedication of the FDA.

I honestly hope I am completely wrong and overreacting, but it sure doesn't look like a bright future for vaping right about now. I guess time will tell.

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Pretty much. Name of the game now is collect as much money as possible in the process of squeezing the life out of the industry. Not only do they get to crush it, they get a bonus for doing so. Once individual states wipe their chins off and dig in, they get to tax the the shit out of everything that is left. They all make piles of cash and more people go back to killing themselves and others with smoking.

Another public health crisis averted, thanks to the hard work and dedication of the FDA.

I honestly hope I am completely wrong and overreacting, but it sure doesn't look like a bright future for vaping right about now. I guess time will tell.

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Not overacting at all - I'll just keep hoarding what I can - I'll use it all regardless. I plan on staying alive at least another 30 years and have no plans to quit.
 

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AndriaD

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We can't find our cat. I let her out at 10:30 this morning, and she hasn't come in all day, even when my husband got home from work. Hours of screaming and yelling for her... and still no Tuxie. We're both just beside ourselves. :cry::cry::cry:

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Those "we the people" petitions
They make it sound like you're in favor of the regulations, so I replied to that email telling them they sound like they're promoting cigarettes.
and with juice it will require studies on ALL of the flavorings and ingredients used in EACH product.
Flavors, pg, vg are already FDA approved, so now they have to approve their own approvals??

sounds about right.... dumb asses.
 

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We can't find our cat. I let her out at 10:30 this morning, and she hasn't come in all day, even when my husband got home from work. Hours of screaming and yelling for her... and still no Tuxie. We're both just beside ourselves. :cry::cry::cry:

Andria

I hope you know my like actually meant YIKES I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU GUYS AND HOPE SHE GETS HER FELINE ASS BACK HOME SOON!
 

AndriaD

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I hope you know my like actually meant YIKES I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU GUYS AND HOPE SHE GETS HER FELINE ASS BACK HOME SOON!

When we first got her, if I found her in my chair, I'd say "get your hairy cat ass outta my chair!" So my son started singing in a high-pitched falsetto, 'hairy cat ass! hairy cat ass!' And now I sing that to her... Earlier tonight, I was outside yelling "Tuxie! Get your hairy cat ass home!' But still no Tuxie. :cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:

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