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kad2371 said:
I had to laugh at a headline on my local news stations website, relating to food labeling guidelines:
FDA to reevaluate definition of 'healthy'
Seems to me they've already redefined the word.
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Read the article and it will show how stupid they really are:

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The Food and Drug Administration will reevaluate its definition of "healthy," which could upend how a range of foods are marketed.

An FDA spokeswoman said in an email that the agency plans to solicit public comment on the matter in the near future.

The FDA currently allows use of the term on packaging only when products meet certain nutrient criteria. Last year, it told the maker of Kind fruit-and-nut bars that its products should not be called "healthy" because of their saturated fat levels.

That prompted Kind to ask for a re-evaluation of the term's definition, noting the fat in its bars comes from nuts.

Kind noted the FDA's rule prevents avocados and salmon from being labeled "healthy," while allowing the term for fat-free puddings and sugary cereals.
 
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Can I use yours?
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Hey Roxy!

I ain't one for a lot of shit. That is to say I don't normally go too far out of my way to stir or rouse up shit with other folks. We have an expression round yon parts. "Don't start shit, finish shit."

Looks to me ECF, now FDA are being royal douches. Sure douches have their use, but these kind don't. They just come along and stir shit.

Well, long as I'm able figure I'm down to be one of the ones finishing shit. To that aims, you want to hop in any avatar I post here, on ECF, or wherever, have at it. Hell, you could even speak my words if'n ya want.

Figure we'd square close enough up on what we'd say that it'd not matter which said what. They's a bunch o' fuckers in our old world what need learning up about which hornet nests to stir, which ones you don't. Ultimately, think we got a bunch herein what just as soon be any hornet t'all to swarm on these fuckers.
 
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Well, I know Innokin makes decent regulated box mods. Still using an MVP 2 on and off regular after about two years. I might have to consider. Course, I'm doing lots o' 'considering' now a days. Know for sure I want some kind of squonk kit, if it's a $25 Reo clone, or about that for Kanger Dripbox kit not too worried either way because I figure both would suit. May need to hone a little rusty skills for the Reo clone, ergo if it breaks down "how to fix". The Kanger may aswell be throw away I figure if it breaks, MOSFET gets shot, need a degree to figure which one, then to figure making a paper clip into one. I keep 'afixin.

You may not know. Looks like that Cool Fire would take an 18650, or it sealed for use of the internal only?
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The original CF4s are sealed, fixed-battery; I'm guessing the others are as well.

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The original CF4s are sealed, fixed-battery; I'm guessing the others are as well.

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Damn. I still wonder though if a gremlin likes o' me got hold of one how easy it'd be to ... * gestures and sets to mumbling about rat finks in the cellar, tools, end caps, all U mini um, ways to paddle canoes, something about Ollie 4 in race six at the track, dogs and some form of odd thing called a w ah biz bus unable to properly pronounce the Punjabi in Anguish ...*
 
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celticluvr said:
I laughed so hard at this! So true! :giggle::giggle::giggle:
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S'why I like running round barefoot at times. That and if you always wearing shoes you start to let yourself atrophy by loosing touch with the good Earth under your feet. Momma, she give us everything and then some. Not saying I'm always out and in nature, but will say I got a fair idea of how to be. Nothing to do with going against nature, can stand too long what nature don't put right.

One of those silly joking tests on the interwebs told my wife she'd die a year into a zombie apocalypse. I took the same test, it said I'd survive and outlast all the zombies. She asked me a bad question to ask. "Did you say you'd eat your spouse?" ....

I could only sigh as a response. "Better me than some zombie eats you, huh? You saying you'd not want me surviving? See how you are, now." I plan on buying her flip flops just in case. hehe. :)
 
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MorelyMagicMist said:
S'why I like running round barefoot at times. That and if you always wearing shoes you start to let yourself atrophy by loosing touch with the good Earth under your feet. Momma, she give us everything and then some. Not saying I'm always out and in nature, but will say I got a fair idea of how to be. Nothing to do with going against nature, can stand too long what nature don't put right.

One of those silly joking tests on the interwebs told my wife she'd die a year into a zombie apocalypse. I took the same test, it said I'd survive and outlast all the zombies. She asked me a bad question to ask. "Did you say you'd eat your spouse?" ....

I could only sigh as a response. "Better me than some zombie eats you, huh? You saying you'd not want me surviving? See how you are, now." I plan on buying her flip flops just in case. hehe. :)
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LOL! Yeah I love running around barefoot! My feet are tough from, in my adolescent years, running up and down the street in front of my mama's house. "Hot asphalt?! What hot asphalt? Feels warm to me!"

I love rubbing my feet (or whole body) in a patch of thick clover! Its my guilty pleasure!
 
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Go to the Mud Pit here to the banned from forum area and you can read the whole 10 pages.

When I talked to SJ and asked him why another member was allowed to design 2 attys and 2 mechs, promote them all over ecf and sign up buyers, he told me the mods weren't aware :rolleyes: One was on the buy list for the mech, which I sent him a link for. And mods posted in his threads about them.

So, that was a lie.
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They can stick all they're childish rules up their asses. Fuck um....:gaah:
 
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Hiya Inspects, GFY dear.

I'm crusing around, trying to make any sense of so many FDA threads, and some mis-information. Bound to happen when you get a house full of pissed off vapers, I guess. I'd just like to see the fighting stop, especially in this matter. I could tell them all to GFY, some would get even more mad, some would get it, some would welcome it and the others, well I'd probably actually mean it to a handful of 'em.

Roxy I have that bookmarked to watch in a little while.
 
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I am hoping we might use that video to give accurate info to vapers AND non vapers who think the FDA just saved their children from evil e cigs :rolleyes: Unbelievable, the spin the media put on it. They need to wake the fuck up and realize that, in fact, the FDA just sentenced some of their precious children to tobacco addiction.
 
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celticluvr said:
LOL! Yeah I love running around barefoot! My feet are tough from, in my adolescent years, running up and down the street in front of my mama's house. "Hot asphalt?! What hot asphalt? Feels warm to me!"

I love rubbing my feet (or whole body) in a patch of thick clover! Its my guilty pleasure!
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WOOT! here ya go!

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haleysdadda said:
God I hope so! Cuz if you are reading this thread @retired1 I believe I speak for everyone here when I say "KISS OUR COLLECTIVE ASSES!":blowkiss::shades:
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I wouldn't want his diseased lips anywhere near my ass. I might let him kiss my boot, after I kicked him with it a few times. :)

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Hiya Inspects, GFY dear.

I'm crusing around, trying to make any sense of so many FDA threads, and some mis-information. Bound to happen when you get a house full of pissed off vapers, I guess. I'd just like to see the fighting stop, especially in this matter. I could tell them all to GFY, some would get even more mad, some would get it, some would welcome it and the others, well I'd probably actually mean it to a handful of 'em.

Roxy I have that bookmarked to watch in a little while.
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I watched some of it so far. I

I too am getting a little tired of everything wrapping back around to the FDA. I don't mind the jabs, and have made plenty of my own and will continue to do so - but more on the level of wisecracks.

It's the long diatribes that turn into political spitting manifestos that are making me a little glassy eyed. Especially after actually doing so much actual reading to try to understand the nuances: the actual regs and then some of the so-called guides the FDA put out. It still doesn't clarify that much for me because of all the contradictions and double-speak - and I consider myself a well-read person (laugh if you want, that is okay :crazy:)

It's no wonder the media and Congress are just parroting the FDAs "Save the Children" blather. What is needed is a well-prepared interviewer armed with facts and very detailed specific questions towards FDA officials so it can be explained in simple English that anyone who can participate in a forum can understand.

Enough said.
 
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JuicyLucy said:
I watched some of it so far. I

I too am getting a little tired of everything wrapping back around to the FDA. I don't mind the jabs, and have made plenty of my own and will continue to do so - but more on the level of wisecracks.

It's the long diatribes that turn into political spitting manifestos that are making me a little glassy eyed. Especially after actually doing so much actual reading to try to understand the nuances: the actual regs and then some of the so-called guides the FDA put out. It still doesn't clarify that much for me because of all the contradictions and double-speak - and I consider myself a well-read person (laugh if you want, that is okay :crazy:)

It's no wonder the media and Congress are just parroting the FDAs "Save the Children" blather. What is needed is a well-prepared interviewer armed with facts and very detailed specific questions towards FDA officials so it can be explained in simple English that anyone who can participate in a forum can understand.

Enough said.
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I thought Dr. Siegel made things much more clear today in the video, and these blogs:

http://tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com/
 
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JuicyLucy said:
I watched some of it so far. I

I too am getting a little tired of everything wrapping back around to the FDA. I don't mind the jabs, and have made plenty of my own and will continue to do so - but more on the level of wisecracks.

It's the long diatribes that turn into political spitting manifestos that are making me a little glassy eyed. Especially after actually doing so much actual reading to try to understand the nuances: the actual regs and then some of the so-called guides the FDA put out. It still doesn't clarify that much for me because of all the contradictions and double-speak - and I consider myself a well-read person (laugh if you want, that is okay :crazy:)

It's no wonder the media and Congress are just parroting the FDAs "Save the Children" blather. What is needed is a well-prepared interviewer armed with facts and very detailed specific questions towards FDA officials so it can be explained in simple English that anyone who can participate in a forum can understand.

Enough said.
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Today I was with a friend of mine and his wife who just finished her last round of chemotherapy about a month ago.

Her hair is beginning to grow back and she's starting to gain some weight, she really looks good compared to the last time I seen her. My buddy Mike went to talk to a caddy in back of the clubhouse...his wife says I'll be back in a minute. She's gone for about 5 minutes and sits back down. I can instantly smell cigarette smoke. I couldn't believe my nose. I said you smoked a cigarette?. She says yes, please don't tell Mike, he thinks I quit. All I could think is wow, this is unbelievable. Then I thought I could be this person, perhaps I couldn't quit either.

She didn't know I vaped, I don't publicise it around people. Anyway, I leaned over and said to her please call me when you have a few minutes, I have something very important to explain which could potentially get you off from the cigarettes. She says give me a clue would you please. I said you need to try vaping. I'll explain everything when I hear from you, as I could see Mike walking back to our table.

This has really been bothering me this evening....I still can't believe after weeks of chemo she still couldn't stop smoking. I wonder how many hundreds of thousands of people just like her are doing the exact same thing, smoking themselves to death when they have a slight chance of living longer just by tossing the smokes out and vaping.

I'll do my damndest to get her set up with a simple battery and atomizer. This just stuns me though, the grip chemicals in cigarettes have on people. What stuns me more is the fact the government would like it this way.

Hopefully she calls tomorrow, so I can ask her to please meet me at a vape shop nearby.
 
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Today I was with a friend of mine and his wife who just finished her last round of chemotherapy about a month ago.

Her hair is beginning to grow back and she's starting to gain some weight, she really looks good compared to the last time I seen her. My buddy Mike went to talk to a caddy in back of the clubhouse...his wife says I'll be back in a minute. She's gone for about 5 minutes and sits back down. I can instantly smell cigarette smoke. I couldn't believe my nose. I said you smoked a cigarette?. She says yes, please don't tell Mike, he thinks I quit. All I could think is wow, this is unbelievable. Then I thought I could be this person, perhaps I couldn't quit either.

She didn't know I vaped, I don't publicise it around people. Anyway, I leaned over and said to her please call me when you have a few minutes, I have something very important to explain which could potentially get you off from the cigarettes. She says give me a clue would you please. I said you need to try vaping. I'll explain everything when I hear from you, as I could see Mike walking back to our table.

This has really been bothering me this evening....I still can't believe after weeks of chemo she still couldn't stop smoking. I wonder how many hundreds of thousands of people just like her are doing the exact same thing, smoking themselves to death when they have a slight chance of living longer just by tossing the smokes out and vaping.

I'll do my damndest to get her set up with a simple battery and atomizer. This just stuns me though, the grip chemicals in cigarettes have on people. What stuns me more is the fact the government would like it this way.

Hopefully she calls tomorrow, so I can ask her to please meet me at a vape shop nearby.
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unfortunately, a lot of people are I that same situation.
I hope that you can get her to make the switch. every person we can help is a testament to how this can be a saving grace for so many.
if there is any help you need, you know you have it here.
 
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Today I was with a friend of mine and his wife who just finished her last round of chemotherapy about a month ago.

Her hair is beginning to grow back and she's starting to gain some weight, she really looks good compared to the last time I seen her. My buddy Mike went to talk to a caddy in back of the clubhouse...his wife says I'll be back in a minute. She's gone for about 5 minutes and sits back down. I can instantly smell cigarette smoke. I couldn't believe my nose. I said you smoked a cigarette?. She says yes, please don't tell Mike, he thinks I quit. All I could think is wow, this is unbelievable. Then I thought I could be this person, perhaps I couldn't quit either.

She didn't know I vaped, I don't publicise it around people. Anyway, I leaned over and said to her please call me when you have a few minutes, I have something very important to explain which could potentially get you off from the cigarettes. She says give me a clue would you please. I said you need to try vaping. I'll explain everything when I hear from you, as I could see Mike walking back to our table.

This has really been bothering me this evening....I still can't believe after weeks of chemo she still couldn't stop smoking. I wonder how many hundreds of thousands of people just like her are doing the exact same thing, smoking themselves to death when they have a slight chance of living longer just by tossing the smokes out and vaping.

I'll do my damndest to get her set up with a simple battery and atomizer. This just stuns me though, the grip chemicals in cigarettes have on people. What stuns me more is the fact the government would like it this way.

Hopefully she calls tomorrow, so I can ask her to please meet me at a vape shop nearby.
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I have a couple clearos that were sent from vaping360. I'm happy to pass them on.
 
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inspects said:
Today I was with a friend of mine and his wife who just finished her last round of chemotherapy about a month ago.

Her hair is beginning to grow back and she's starting to gain some weight, she really looks good compared to the last time I seen her. My buddy Mike went to talk to a caddy in back of the clubhouse...his wife says I'll be back in a minute. She's gone for about 5 minutes and sits back down. I can instantly smell cigarette smoke. I couldn't believe my nose. I said you smoked a cigarette?. She says yes, please don't tell Mike, he thinks I quit. All I could think is wow, this is unbelievable. Then I thought I could be this person, perhaps I couldn't quit either.

She didn't know I vaped, I don't publicise it around people. Anyway, I leaned over and said to her please call me when you have a few minutes, I have something very important to explain which could potentially get you off from the cigarettes. She says give me a clue would you please. I said you need to try vaping. I'll explain everything when I hear from you, as I could see Mike walking back to our table.

This has really been bothering me this evening....I still can't believe after weeks of chemo she still couldn't stop smoking. I wonder how many hundreds of thousands of people just like her are doing the exact same thing, smoking themselves to death when they have a slight chance of living longer just by tossing the smokes out and vaping.

I'll do my damndest to get her set up with a simple battery and atomizer. This just stuns me though, the grip chemicals in cigarettes have on people. What stuns me more is the fact the government would like it this way.

Hopefully she calls tomorrow, so I can ask her to please meet me at a vape shop nearby.
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Fingers crossed she calls!!!

Cigarettes are so insidious both physiologically and physically it's unbelievable.

I would probably be that person who couldn't quit despite chemo and feel for her situation. I'd probably be the person who smokes with an oxygen tank.

I know that vaping has saved my life and hope it can help save hers.

You are a good, good friend dude. Truly.
 
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