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Flyhigh92

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I want to try dripping but I don't know how to or neccesarily wanna learn how to build coils can you get prebuilt coils for dripping, what would be a good first set up, and what's the very basics I would need to know to start and see if I even like it before trying to build and stuff. Is building coils as complicated as it seems? Thanks
 
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Yes you can get premade coils, the type of coil depends on the type of RDA you are going to get, your vaping preference, the wattage you intend to apply and the amp rating of the batteries used in your mod.
What you need to know depends on the type of mod you intend to get, if it's a mech you will need learn a lot more.
Building simple coils is easy with a bit of practice, while building super complex coils can be quite hard.
No matter what kind of coil, you will still need to install it, wick it and check for hot spots.
 
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I have a Dna 200 Hotcig dx 200 and a Smok bt50 then a ohm wrecker g2 and ipv5 on the way. I'm not very deep into vaping yet all be tried was tanks been using around 45-60 most the time and tfv4 is the one I use most. I'm direct lung and kinda want something basic or that has the most versatility to see what I like. Is wicking it just putting cotton in you have to keep putting cotton in them like through the wraps right and what are hot spots
 
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Would probably be interested in building coils eventually but would wanna see if it's something I enjoy before investing in supplies and something I could get to when I have time
 
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If you like direct lung vaping, you'll most likely love a well setup rda. Building, installing and wicking simple coils is easy. Do it. Find an rda with a velocity style deck and side airflow. Start with 24 gauge kanthal and wattage mode on the mod.
 
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Dripping is awesome. I haven't bought a tank since I discovered rda s. Easy maintainence, easy building, only leaks if you over drip.
 
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What's some good ones you'd recommend
 
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My favorite rda are a goon and temple. Goon is 24 mm clamp posts. Temple is a 30 mm 2 post with tons of build space. Bought it as my first because of ease of building. Still use it daily
 
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Was looking around on google and a lot of people say a mutation what do you guys think of that one
 
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The Tsunami24 is a good all around RDA with good build quality (for a Chinese RDA).
Geekvape is a good company that makes good products like the Griffin and Avocado and the Tsunami is no different.
 
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savagebee said:
Dripping is awesome. I haven't bought a tank since I discovered rda s. Easy maintainence, easy building, only leaks if you over drip.
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My sentiments exactly.

OP, if you have precision screwdrivers and nail clippers, just buy a spool of wire and a bit of wire. Can literally spend $10 to get started wrapping coils. And yes, it is super easy to make simple builds. Cannot imagine going back to factory coils. 2 weeks worth of prebuilt coils cost the same as wick and wire for a year. Plus can tinker with the build to suit you.

Get a clone or 2 to see what you like. Tobecco velocity is hard to beat for the money.

Ince you find a coil build you like, the wire lasts months. Just have to clean and change cotton weekly or so. And wicking an rda is fairly foolproof, compared to an rta.
 
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I just realized I had this and completely forgot it's a steam crave real rda and the Smok tf Rca got both when I first started and Just threw them in a drawer. is this gonna be a hard one to start with and what's a good wire to start with. One more question where do you put the cotton and what do they mean when they say check the ohms how do you do that
 
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Should probably do a little research. Most reg mods have an ohm reader. Should check your build specs on steam engine to see what your resistance should be, and check the resistance on your mod to make sure they are close.

I would get 26g kanthal if I only got 1 size. Can usually buy by the foot at a b&m store to get you by until some comes in the mail. I like temco for wire. Made in the US and clean wire. Plus free shipping.

As far as wicking and coil building, watch a couple youtube videos. Should get you all set up. Short answer is the cotton goes through the coil and tucked down in the juice well. But the videos will show just how to do it.
 
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And I think I'm going to buy prebuilt coils what kind are the best to start with/what's the difference with them other than metal type. Also which metal type do u guys find the best and gauge
 
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Lot of variables there. Absolutely no "best" gauge.

Kanthal, SS, nichrome can be used in wattage mode, so would go with one of those to start unless you are in to temp control.

Coil builds are a balance of # of wraps, diameter, and wire gauge and metal.

I would seriously recommend just buying wire. Unless you are looking for super exotic coils and are not crafty. Absolutely as easy as wrapping wire around a screwdriver. And making your own will leave you free to experiment.

But if you are set against wrapping your own, you can buy an assortment of coils. I think Youde makes a coil assortment. That way you can try a few different builds to see what suits you.
 
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Flyhigh92 said:
I want to try dripping but I don't know how to or neccesarily wanna learn how to build coils can you get prebuilt coils for dripping, what would be a good first set up, and what's the very basics I would need to know to start and see if I even like it before trying to build and stuff. Is building coils as complicated as it seems? Thanks
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I just started dripping last week. Building coils is not that hard and if I can do it, anyone can! It just takes a bit of practice and watching some videos or reading a few articles. A local vape shop owner gave me a few pointers the other day and now it just seems so simple. I thought I'd never build coils myself, now I can't believe I didn't start a long time ago now I see how easy and fun it is.

Give it a shot. Just buy a Velocity style RDA and some supplies and you'll be surprised.
 
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i dont necessisarily agree with @BKTOAD...

1. never use your mod as the ohm checker, use the apropriate stand alone ohm reader
2. when using a regulated battery device, there is no need to build sub ohm coils, stay around 1.5 to down as low as 1 ohm, save your battery life
3. might think about 27 or 28 gage kanthal A1 for starters

read post #5 of this thread for additional information
 
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Ellipsis said:
i dont necessisarily agree with @BKTOAD...

1. never use your mod as the ohm checker, use the apropriate stand alone ohm reader
2. when using a regulated battery device, there is no need to build sub ohm coils, stay around 1.5 to down as low as 1 ohm, save your battery life
3. might think about 27 or 28 gage kanthal A1 for starters

read post #5 of this thread for additional information
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I do agree that it is "best" to use a separate ohm reader. Absolutely. And on a mech, there is no other option.

However, IMHO, if you build a coil that specs out at 1 ohm on steam engine and it registers at 1 ohm on your regulated mod, you are fine. Any problems would absolutely show on your mod. And it will not fire if there is a short.

Your ohm reader on the mod decides the voltage based on the resistance it reads anyway. So no matter what, if your mod did not read resistance properly it will not work properly. Plus regulated has short protection. Would give entirely different advice for a mech mod.

There is a possible reason to build lower. If your mod has a voltage cut-off. It will restrict your wattage based on resistance. Lower resistance will let you push higher wattage per volt.
 
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and if you dont trim close enough to the post your going to possibly have created for yourself a hard short situation...you are betting your mods fuses blow before the current run away gets to your board...
best to teach safety to someone new , not possible unsafe short cuts...
but, you just keep tutoring the OP...
@Flyhigh92...sorry for derailing your thread, i will take my leave now...
 
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Absolutely. That little lag on a reg mod??? Thats where your mod decides whether it is safe to fire.

A hard short will show up on a reg mod. And will not fire.

Plus I trust a mod as much or more than one of those $10 ohmeters.
 
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What do you guys think of the tank I posted and the wire thing or should I just get a spool of the 28 gauge kanthal and should I get one of those kits or a coil wrapper or any of that stuff
 
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If only buying 1 spool 26 is a better option then 28 since it's more versatile, you can go relatively high with a single plain 26 coil and relatively low with dual twisted/parallel coils.

With a regulated device building too high or too low limits your options and you won't be able to reach high wattage (if you wanted to), high resistance will make the mod reach it's voltage limit and low resistance will push the mod to it's amperage limit (if exists, if not will push the batteries to their limit).
The higher the amperage the faster the batteries drain.
It's best to just build your coil(s) based on what you like/want and check that you're not going too high or low.
Don't know that yr in to but most people don't use their RDAs for MTL so building a 1.5 ohm coil and using it at low wattage doesn't make much sense.
Using an external ohm meter is a must for mechs, but a regulated device internal ohm meter especially a TC one is most likely more accurate then those cheap external ones.
 
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Build resistance has nothing to do with battery current or run time when using a variable wattage mod. The veteran vapers should know this by now.

Start with 24 gauge kanthal. Easier to work with, performs better and your mod will run it just fine.
 
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A cheap RDA can help you get the basics.
RDTA and RTA are going to frustrate you to no end fiddling and fucking around with them due to leaks or whatever.

The mutation, velocity, tsunami or even a twisted messes clone are dreams to work with. All have lots of room for first builds.
28ga, 26 ga, and 24 ga are all ok to work with.
28 and thinner are going to fluster you with ease of breaking, springy unwinding.
26 is super easy just a bit of ramp up time to heat up.
24 is the lowest I would go, anything bigger and it starts feeling like you are trying to craft with hanger wire.
22 and bigger the ramp time SUCKS and the heat is kind of amazing.

Temco is where I would suggest ya go for wire. At this point in my vape life the only place I go.

OK so a cost break down.
Ohm meter. 10-??? a must have period even for regulated mods, good for testing shorts instead of risking your mod.

Clone rda. 7-20 bucks.

A spool of wire 5-10 bucks, from temco stateside often is free shipping.

Small screwdriver set can be had for a couple bucks. I wish I spent the extra few bucks for the built up handle set. Can be used elsewhere.

A small set of nail clippers will do for now. the dollar store is good for these.

A bag of unbleached cotton balls or some shops have small packs of Japanese cotton.

Other than the ohm meter, the cotton, wire and RDA you amass tools and trinkets along your vaping journey.
 
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I got three of the tobeco Pyrro rdas to play with because they were two bucks a piece so fuck it lol are they gonna be ok to learn om
 
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