I don't think anybody really knows the answer to that one. I am a sub-ohmer of several years and I don't have that problem. I vape max VG most of the time.My question about all this residue and I do have the same problem, if glyc leaves this residue on walls and glass, is there a residue on your lungs....I have vaped for over 4 years and when I switched from the old ego puffers and went on to sub ohming M-L I notice I cough up white phlem. No nowhere as bad as the brown stained filth when I was a smoker but this is starting to worry me.
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Totally agree. I vape 60vg 40 pg now...but when I did try 80/20 thats when the proverbial hit the fan. It ain't so bad with 60/40. I smoked for 41 years and yes I thing my lungs are st....fd. But vaping has helped heaps..I don't think anybody really knows the answer to that one. I am a sub-ohmer of several years and I don't have that problem. I vape max VG most of the time.
Might just be an irritation thing. That's often where the fluid production comes from... ...just your lungs trying to isolate and push something that they don't agree with out. Maybe it's always been an issue but you never noticed because the quantity was lower. Something in your juice could be causing it. PG in any decent quantity does this to me... ...phlegm city in all of my airways.
I think the lungs are generally pretty good about keeping liquid out. They have mechanisms for draining things like water vapor and VG out. But it probably depends a lot on the condition of your lungs. I can see VG being a problem if your lungs can't drain at 100%. I know that some people get "heavy lung" from VG. I think I probably don't because I started smoking young, quit while I was young, and have been active my whole life. So for someone like me, it may not be as much of an issue as it might be for someone who smoked further into adulthood and may not have the best lung function.
I read where one person, I don't remember if on this forum or another, had a chest xray after a few years of vaping. He had scars on his lungs from years of smoking and in that xray alot of scars were healing. His doctor made an educated guess that the extra moisture from the VG was helping to heal his lungs. But again, that was an educated guess.My question about all this residue and I do have the same problem, if glyc leaves this residue on walls and glass, is there a residue on your lungs....I have vaped for over 4 years and when I switched from the old ego puffers and went on to sub ohming M-L I notice I cough up white phlem. No nowhere as bad as the brown stained filth when I was a smoker but this is starting to worry me.
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Yeah, Thanks everyone from me too. Come to think of it this started with 100% VG! For years I vaped 50/50 and I just noticed this which is why I brought it up. Now I know why! The thing is you will not get clouds with 50/50 and I think clouds taste better. Maybe placebo who knows.
I noticed though If I mess with the Preheat on a DNA 200 mod it does not set off the fire alarm so perhaps it does not accumulate. I shall see. Perhaps it is making it less dense by making it much hotter. It is dissipating instead of precipitating. Maybe.
I really do not understand where this dichotomy comes from... ...just the idea that somehow vaping more juice and cramming that vapor into the same space somehow equates to less flavor. If anything, shouldn't the opposite be true?I get so much much flavor from my Achilles RDA at 10w, with a 2ohm coil, using 85% PG, that when I first started using the Achilles, I kept feeling my lips to see if I was getting ejuice in my mouth -- I wasn't; it was just that intense of flavor. So that's TOTALLY "placebo", thinking you only get taste with massive clouds, and completely wrong. With massive clouds, all you get is massive clouds... and gooey shit everywhere.
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I really do not understand where this dichotomy comes from... ...just the idea that somehow vaping more juice and cramming that vapor into the same space somehow equates to less flavor. If anything, shouldn't the opposite be true?
I think back when cloud chasing became a thing, this idea was spread by people running the wrong builds in the then very new and unexplored, massive airflow atties. Yes, if you don't build to the airflow and/or dial it back appropriately, there will be no flavor. It's a different beast than what people were used to. Many people, not able to get the flavor they were used to by doing what they usually did, unfairly dismissed these atties as "cloud atties" and started calling everything else a "flavor atty."
I don't think I've ever met a cloud chaser that has actually said they only care about the clouds. Most also care about the flavor. More often people value them equally. If their cloud setups weren't delivering on the flavor, they wouldn't use them. Quite often, cloud atties are judged by the amount of flavor they can put out.
Personally, I don't think there is a be-all, end-all route to flavor. You can coax out tons of flavor with tootle-puffing MTL's, monster LH setups, and everything in between. I think it has less to do with the amount of vapor and more to do with the balance of vapor to air, your wicking, the heat, and the path that the vapor travels. It's not a matter of "Do you want flavor or not?" It's more about whether you prefer the feel of MTL or LH.
The gooey shit everywhere thing is still up for debate, though. I think it's situational. Not everyone seems to have this problem. As I recall, some other sub-ohmers who go through a lot of juice were surprised that I was having a build up problem. Something is still missing.
No, Pg is not radiator fluid. It is an ingredient in Radiator fluid, and a whole shitload of other products. It is also sprayed through hospital vents to circulate in the air as germ killer. Just sayin'I honestly don't know but isn't VG better for your health than PG? On the one hand all that gooey stuff might be in your lungs but PG is Radiator fluid!
I may have solved the problem though hopefully with a super hot Preheat. I know this might be true because the fire alarm did not go off all day Lol. At a reasonable Preheat the fire alarm would go off in 2 seconds. It must have been much more dense. Now the heat must be evaporating it.
I see what you did thereI honestly don't know but isn't VG better for your health than PG? On the one hand all that gooey stuff might be in your lungs but PG is Radiator fluid!
I may have solved the problem though hopefully with a super hot Preheat. I know this might be true because the fire alarm did not go off all day Lol. At a reasonable Preheat the fire alarm would go off in 2 seconds. It must have been much more dense. Now the heat must be evaporating it.
I honestly don't know but isn't VG better for your health than PG? On the one hand all that gooey stuff might be in your lungs but PG is Radiator fluid!
High humidity and high VG tends to be much worse for this.I vaped in the bathroom with the very good vent on. I turned it off. i came back later and juice had poured out of the vent all over the toilet seat below it! It sets off the fire alarms. I am going to be relegated to vaping in an unused room but like to do so in my bedroom.
I don't mean to be a jerk but I tried that. This home is too large for that to work. I would have to open multiple windows and it is cold out.
me too,, i went from max vg to 50/50 (+/-) and i dont have any droplets. i do chain vape 30 mls @ 25-30wVery interesting replies thank you all that contributed. Makes me wonder about all these cloud chasers vaping high VG....As I said earlier a 50/50 mix for me is ok but if I increase the VG then is when the sputum starts.
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