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For less fancy coils, I'd build plain coils in a 0.5-0.8 Ohm range. The higher the resistance the "cooler" the vape. However, it also depends on the gauge and type of the wire utilized.
What build is best for your mod? Anything above 0.4 ohm.
What build is best for your atty? that's a totally different story.
What build is best for your atty? that's a totally different story.
Anything less than .5 ohms is usually unsafe in a unregulated series mod.
That build is .25-.3 ohms on a 3 mm mandrel.
No higher resistance does not mean a cooler vape............the amount of wire determines temperature not the ohm of the coil.
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Well actually Neunerball is correct since the higher the resistance the lower the wattage and the cooler the vape, aside from the amount of airflow the shape and mass of the coil, the positioning of the coil in relation to the airholes and size of the chamber which also effect the heat.
0.3 ohm @ 8.4V is 28A, should be ok with 30A batteries.
235W vape would be strong and hot but not burnt (unless you run out of juice) some people may like it.
You should build your coil at a resistence that would make you reach the wattage that you like to vape in, 0.4 or 0.3 is just the recommended minimum.
235W vape would be strong and hot but not burnt (unless you run out of juice) some people may like it.
You should build your coil at a resistence that would make you reach the wattage that you like to vape in, 0.4 or 0.3 is just the recommended minimum.
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i just tried my regulated mod (rx200) at 235 watts with a twisted messes dripper and any hit i take longer than a second it tastes extremely burnt. i have a 24 gauge 7 wrap build ohming out to .32 ohms 3mm wrap...what am i doing wrong? yes i have 30 amp cells...can you just not go that high with a regulated device?
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why do you need to vape at 235 watts? That's whats confusing to me.
i cant figure out how you vape that i am very interested in that exact build as its only 1 less wrap then i usually do however if i crank my rx200s up to 235 watts any hit i take longer than 1 second it starts to taste burnt...got any tips ive been building for about a year now mostly on tanks however i just moved over to drippers but i cant hit the wattage your speaking of without a burnt hit...advice please
i like kind of pushing it i like a hot vape not burned but hot i also just want to make sure i have all my builds down and know what wattage i can hit i probably wont usually vape that high i just would like to know how its done if at all possible
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well if you are using a regulated mod it's a lot different. there are protections built in. Also the internal wiring on the RX isn't made for that kind of amperage. Your mod is gonna get really hot itself. There are quite a few things wrong with what you are trying to do. I don't want to be a jerk about it, i just want you to stay safe. If you let me know what it is you are trying to accomplish then I can help you more
i like kind of pushing it i like a hot vape not burned but hot i also just want to make sure i have all my builds down and know what wattage i can hit i probably wont usually vape that high i just would like to know how its done if at all possible
ok sorry about the confusion and double posts i cant figure out how to delete them...let me start over i just ordered a series mech mod and i was looking for some good builds and someone mentioned a 5-6 wrap dual 24 gauge coil which is what i use at 90-120 all day and he said he uses that build on a series mech mod and this build comes in at about 235 watts and i would like to know how exactly he is vaping this when it burns when i take over a 1 second hit so here i am trying stupid high wattages on my rx200s...ps my rx hasnt hit any protection features yet atleast that the screen displays
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Ok i understand that, My next question was why get a mech mod and try to vape at 8.4 volts? Mech mods can be dangerous if you aren't sure of what you are doing, and copying someone else isn't being sure what to do. in short not safe
With that said, there are some thing you think about. When you are pushing that many amps through your coil, it's gonna get really hot, really fast. You are going to need good airflow. So and RDA that has a ton of air flow. You are going to have to suck air through hard to cool them off, Wicking is also important, If you aren't getting enough juice to the coils, you are going to get burnt cotton. Make sure it's packed with cotton but not too tight or it won't have room to absorb juice. Make sure you don't have hot spots in your build, a hot spot will give a burnt taste. Make sure all your connections are tight. And for juice use a good max VG juice, you'll need a thick juice to withstand the heat.
Also remember that the series mod voltage goes down. 8.4 is what you'll get for the first few hits and then it'll work it's way down as the battery life drains. 8.4 is only on a full set of batteries. after a few puffs that number is going to decrease and keep decreasing.
i got a mech mod so i could hit higher wattages i pretty much have ohms law down i know it wasnt really a safe thing to do on the rx200 i just kind of wanted to know how they were achieving such high wattages without things starting to burn i wasnt really taking long hits understandably so it was more like pulsing the button
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I'm not a long drawer. I usually only take 1 to 2 second puffs, airflow is somewhat key here. I will try and post a video of it, I even have guys at the Vape shop hit it and say it tastes good as well so I know it's just not me. I have realized though the same build on a regulated mod at same wattage it tastes like crap, but on my series box unregulated it's amazing.
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just the man i was looking for so your saying that same build on a regulated mod burns at that wattage which is what i noticed if i take a hit longer then 1 second... if i try this build on the series mech mod i should be safe with 30 amp cells right? and why do you think it tastes like crap on a regulated mod as opposed to a mech mod with freshly charged batteries?
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you do realize it's less safe to hit at those wattage on a mech mod then a regulated mod?
I still don't understand why you need 200+ watts, I can fill up a room in vapor in seconds building for 65-100 watts.
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the taste won't matter if it's regulated or not. 200 watts is 200 watts. It's the build/juice/wicking/RDA/and airflow that determine the flavor, not the mod
yes i know its safer on a mod with built in protection however i keep hearing more and more about people doing builds like this on mech mods and i would like to give it a try being i can get it to not burn just plain bragging rights thats all and i like a very warm vape im starting to get used to 100 watts so i figured id try something quite a bit warmer
same here 120 just isnt hitting like it used to i also like a warm vape however why do you think you cant hit that wattage on a reg drvice?
nice looks like you did it right
Thank you!! And just don't move up to fast, it's taken me a while to be able to get to this point in vaping, take the time to learn all the safeties and what not. I do a lot of reading of other people's experiences and that helps out a lot. I'm no veteran in vaping but not a beginner, slowly working the way up
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well do what you do but be safe. To be honest if you can't get it to work on a regulated mod, you shouldn't be trying it on an unregulated mod.
LG HB6 batteries are the highest amp limit out there, they just have a short battery life
I like dual 38/28 fused claptons. 7 wraps @ 3mm. Ohms out to around .35-.38. That's my go-to. 30A cells are of course a must.
thats exactly what im trying to do get it to work on a regulated mod before i move to a mech and i dont know why it wont work...i just re did my wicking...wicked it a little bit tighter this time ill post a picture of my build in a moment as soon as i figure out how
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Or you can do a single fused Clapton 3 wrap at 65 watts and get a hot vape more battery life great flavor and clouds. I just don't understand the need for 200+ watts
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In a standard 22mm RDA, I think 175w is generally pushing the limits. That's my experience, anyway. To go much higher than that, you need more space and more airflow to accommodate much more coil. 200w of power translates to more heat energy than most atties can tolerate. Size of the coil is really kind of irrelevant, here. In terms of pure heat energy (NOT temperature,) the implications are the same whether you have a small coil or a large one. Once that heat leaves the coil, it has to go somewhere. It needs a certain amount of air dispersing it and liquid to draw it away.
I think the basic idea behind high power is to increase the amount of surface area you can heat, which increases performance across the board. But this only works up to the point where your atty can control all of the heat energy required to drive the coil to the proper temperatures.
Now, 25mm+ is a different story. With those, I can see people legitimately surpassing 200w and having something very vapable. That's when the RX firmware update and para-series mods like the HOG v2 start making a lot more sense.
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Depends. I can get instant ramp up on a single fused Clapton in an aeronaut at 65 watts. Nice warm vape and good flavor. Flavor is a combo of the RDA/ airflow/ build/ wick/ and juice.
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Something I need to try it sounds, I've honestly never built anything above a .5 before. So our thought process is reversed as I'm used to low ohm and your used to a little higher than me. I would love to figure out a nice build that's not as low with good flavor, warm and fast ramp up.
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Right now I'm using a 24mm mason gemini I just got and am loving it!! I was using a goon before this daily, but I traded it for a mason gemini and am not looking back at all. I also use my 30mm x1 by vapor clouds pretty often. I used my 30mm alpha ohmega bft all the time but my wife is borrowing that with the ipv5 I have her.
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try a 14 wrap 24 gauge it comes out to around .6