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Suggested coil build for boreas save battery

CashNVape

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Want to build two coils that isn't going to
A use up all the juice in 30min or less,
B use less battery / wattage: ideal wattage is about 50w or less

Any suggestions?
The wire I have is:
SS316 24g, 26g
Kanthal 26g
 

ej1024

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Want to build two coils that isn't going to
A use up all the juice in 30min or less,
B use less battery / wattage: ideal wattage is about 50w or less

Any suggestions?
The wire I have is:
SS316 24g, 26g
Kanthal 26g

9/10 wraps 24g SS 3.0 ID



VAPE ON
 

HondaDavidson

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there is no such thing as a battery saving byuild. Mainly because the wattage you run determines the battery longevity. Basically at 50watts a .5ohm coil will use the battery at about the same rate as a .2 coil. Which coil uses the battery faster will be determined by which coil used more wire and has the longer ramp-up time..

I would suggest using steam-engine.org to model some lower wattage builds. Granted to get where you want to go you might need different wire. Since the thinnest you have is 26 awg, your kinda limited to .5ohm or lower builds, you could go higher.. But that would just increase ramp time and hurt battery life because thicker wire high ohm coils tend to need more wattage to perform than low ohm coil need. Me I would either do .5ohm with the 26SS or the 26K at around .8-1ohm, but then I also comfortably vape at 25watts or less. Current builds .34ohm 2x28SS twisted running at 18watts in TC at 400f and .7ohm 28SS running at 21watts in TC at 400f. Both in KFL tanks.
 

CashNVape

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there is no such thing as a battery saving byuild. Mainly because the wattage you run determines the battery longevity. Basically at 50watts a .5ohm coil will use the battery at about the same rate as a .2 coil. Which coil uses the battery faster will be determined by which coil used more wire and has the longer ramp-up time..

I would suggest using steam-engine.org to model some lower wattage builds. Granted to get where you want to go you might need different wire. Since the thinnest you have is 26 awg, your kinda limited to .5ohm or lower builds, you could go higher.. But that would just increase ramp time and hurt battery life because thicker wire high ohm coils tend to need more wattage to perform than low ohm coil need. Me I would either do .5ohm with the 26SS or the 26K at around .8-1ohm, but then I also comfortably vape at 25watts or less. Current builds .34ohm 2x28SS twisted running at 18watts in TC at 400f and .7ohm 28SS running at 21watts in TC at 400f. Both in KFL tanks.
I have 32g kanthal on the way but that's for some Clapton build. I'm sure that's way too thin for some lower power builds.

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HondaDavidson

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I have 32g kanthal on the way but that's for some Clapton build. I'm sure that's way too thin for some lower power builds.

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No its not. Is my prefered gauge for twisted builds down to about .5ohm... even lower if you do multi coil builds or use stainless.


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MannyScoot

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Build around .5 - .8 Ohms basic coils will do that

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316L around (6) wraps...... Doesn't need much wattage Around 45 to 60watts to cook at .35 to .40
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Droogbc

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The dude at the vape shop almost shit himself when he saw my dna Reuleaux was set to 177.7 watts.

Double twisted 24ga titanium duals @ .05, temp controlled to my liking.

Lots of coil mass = lots of powah.
 

MannyScoot

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The dude at the vape shop almost shit himself when he saw my dna Reuleaux was set to 177.7 watts.

Double twisted 24ga titanium duals @ .05, temp controlled to my liking.

Lots of coil mass = lots of powah.
Yeah..... you need a lot of power and batteries to heat up all that wire......

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Rabbit Slayer

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No its not. Is my prefered gauge for twisted builds down to about .5ohm... even lower if you do multi coil builds or use stainless.


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Um, if you twist it, it is no longer 32g you're vaping in
 

kargurin

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My build registers at .36 thereabouts with simple Kanthal 24 ga. I'm eschewing the spitting, burping flatulence of the claptons. :cloud: Fill 'er up and vape it in all it's glory. :vino:BTW it's pretty hard to drain that capacity in 30 minutes.
 

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BTW it's pretty hard to drain that capacity in 30 minutes.
Not if you have a leak! LOL
Yeah, 8ml in 30 minutes is quite the consumption. I would guess CashNVape was just making a point of how quickly it seems to be guzzling at that rate.
The beauty of the Boreas is the flavor and the dense, saturated vapor...I would never want to limit that with a build just to save juice or batteries. Use a different atty if you are trying to do that. The Boreas was built to put out rich, flavorful vapor. Don't limit it!
 

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If you want to go to the mini-mart, drive your Mini Cooper. It you want to haul wood, use your truck.
 

kargurin

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One thing to consider here is the deck used for the Boreas. I'm using the smaller 2mm hole deck. High VG juices, no problems at all with dry hits or flooding. I'm burning about 45 watts in a .36ish kanthal build. If you use the 2.5 deck, you're gonna get more saturation and you would need, I think, more wattage. I'm also supposing that claptons and other fancy coils are probably better suited to the bigger hole deck. These people put some thought into this tank and built it well. I'm gonna need one or two more.
 
there is no such thing as a battery saving byuild. Mainly because the wattage you run determines the battery longevity. Basically at 50watts a .5ohm coil will use the battery at about the same rate as a .2 coil. Which coil uses the battery faster will be determined by which coil used more wire and has the longer ramp-up time..

I would suggest using steam-engine.org to model some lower wattage builds. Granted to get where you want to go you might need different wire. Since the thinnest you have is 26 awg, your kinda limited to .5ohm or lower builds, you could go higher.. But that would just increase ramp time and hurt battery life because thicker wire high ohm coils tend to need more wattage to perform than low ohm coil need. Me I would either do .5ohm with the 26SS or the 26K at around .8-1ohm, but then I also comfortably vape at 25watts or less. Current builds .34ohm 2x28SS twisted running at 18watts in TC at 400f and .7ohm 28SS running at 21watts in TC at 400f. Both in KFL tanks.
Thanks. The best explanation, i think.

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HondaDavidson

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Thanks. The best explanation, i think.

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Best I can do to explain the magic of electricity.

Simple answer is wattage has most affect on battery life followed by the mass of the metals in the coil.

We get hung up on ohm rates... but truth is unless your running a mech or unregulated mod... OHM is of little or no significance.

.5 ohm single wire coil may generate 35 or so watts on a mech..... but that doesn't tell us how hot that 35 watts will get or how much heat it will transmit to juice till we factor in the METAL used to make the coil.



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