Any one thinking about or currently using Gplat Wire check this out.

Pancho_Brown · Aug 28, 2014

I followed the link from another member on VU but now i cant find the post to give credit were it due.

http://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_...ad_a_metallurgist_in_a_top_defence_contactor/

It turns out that the so called Gplat wire is nothing more that a common welding wire. Who would have though..

MoFo · Aug 29, 2014

I had thought about it. Thanks for the link!... It is now off of my list until I find out more about this.

Pancho_Brown · Aug 29, 2014

It not so much what its made out of. It's more about the ridiculous mark up. The were selling it for $2.00 a foot, and this wire is so common and massed produced that instead of being sold by the foot its actually sold by weight. My guess is that is they never wanted to disclose their "special formula".

M5amhan · Aug 29, 2014

people on facebook are defending them because they are friends with the owners. that is not a reason to defend a company that is flipping metal for a 10,000% markup. saw a video of someone defending them and the whole video was just "we are wasting time on this" or "if you dont like it dont buy it" or "come on guys dont try to burn a company" nothing of substance backing up the product, just the people behind the company. sure we want to support small vape companies but ones that produce a product they can stand behind. ethics doesnt carry exceptions last time i checked and ripping off the vape community and presenting stainless steel wire as some great innovation is not ethical. thats all ill say about this

M5amhan · Aug 29, 2014

if they wanted to be a real wire distributor and buy this stuff in bulk and sell it like lightningvapes or temco for a reasonable price for a reasonable profit i probably wouldnt feel this way about it, but they are treating it like this is some luxury high quality product made specifically for vaping when its not at all. ok im done now

bluraff3 · Aug 29, 2014

Very interesting stuff. Has anyone here tried gplat? I've heard good things but no way I'm going to spend the money they're asking. If it does provide a superior vape, does that mean everyone will be stocking up on this cheaper welding wire?

Pancho_Brown · Aug 29, 2014

bluraff3 said:
Very interesting stuff. Has anyone here tried gplat? I've heard good things but no way I'm going to spend the money they're asking. If it does provide a superior vape, does that mean everyone will be stocking up on this cheaper welding wire?

I was tempted to try it for a the grate things I've heard about it. Then they company came out and didn't want to give the chemical composition of the wire out. So that made me think twice about it, and now its confirmed that there is nothing special about this wire and they're just repackaging and re labeling it for a huge profit.

bluraff3 · Aug 29, 2014

Pancho_Brown said:
I was tempted to try it for a the grate things I've heard about it. Then they company came out and didn't want to give the chemical composition of the wire out. So that made me think twice about it, and now its confirmed that there is nothing special about this wire and they're just repackaging and re labeling it for a huge profit.

I'm just curious if the wire they're repackaging does actually provide a superior vape as many claim. If it does, then there is something "special" about it, it just shouldn't cost so much. Alternatively, as previously stated, it may be an emperor's new clothes effect: "This wire is expensive so it must be great!"

MoFo · Aug 29, 2014

317l welding wire... Maybe we should start a group buy for it, lol. I see we can get it for $13-14 a lb with a minimum purchase of 25lbs.

M5amhan · Aug 29, 2014

read it from the expert himself

http://i.imgur.com/7XlirMs.jpg

5150sick · Aug 30, 2014

I personally never trusted those vapinology assholes since they were promising to give out the data sheet on the wire first thing tomorrow.

They did that for about 3 weeks and then said there is just "a little bit" of manganese in the wire, then they said Gplat was just made in the same plant as other wires and may have came come in contact with the same machinery as wires containing manganese during the machining process.

Then their 'team of lawyers' aka the one guy who works there that finished the whole 2 years of community college told them to not tell us if the wire would kill us or not.

They should have just got a certified letter from a metallurgist that stated the wire is just as safe as kanthal.

Everyone would have been happy, Fanboys would have continued to pay $25.00 for 15 feet of the same shit we use hang pictures up with and no one would have had to get the wire tested.

Dumbasses!!!

Talon4x4 · Aug 30, 2014

And now there are people trying to discredit the source of the testing. As far as I know BAE is pretty well known and I'm sure the test is legit. I also love how they (Gplat) stand by the fact that this is not simple welding wire. They definitely won't go down without a fight. So glad I just stuck with Kanthal and believe me I wanted to try this stuff

bluraff3 · Aug 30, 2014

Talon4x4 said:
And now there are people trying to discredit the source of the testing. As far as I know BAE is pretty well known and I'm sure the test is legit. I also love how they (Gplat) stand by the fact that this is not simple welding wire. They definitely won't go down without a fight. So glad I just stuck with Kanthal and believe me I wanted to try this stuff

I still want to try the stuff, just don't want to mortgage my house to get it. Since the cats out of the bag, I'm sure someone will buy it in bulk and sell it at a price similar to kanthal.

QuikWgn · Aug 30, 2014

I bought a couple of $7 bundles of G-Plat and Royal wires to try out. To me the main advantages are malleability and much quicker heat/cool cycling vs kanthal. The thing I can't quite figure out (as I am an experienced welder) is that I can only find .030" (which is about 20.5ga) and larger diameters like .035" & .045" in ER317L. I think their 'custom manufactured' claim comes from some sources on Alibaba that I found that would make custom diameter wire in ER317L. So it may be true that the non-welding specific diameters were 'custom manufactured', but the material itself is common. I also believe they probably had the wire multi cycle annealed to further soften it up. The cheapest I have found it for is $29 + shipping for a 2lb spool of .030" (which is probably at least 200') at http://www.bakersgas.com/CRO-SS317_1XE.html#22918 & I also heard the VapeMeshCompany out of the UK will be selling it as well http://www.vape-atomizer-mesh.com/ possibly in smaller vape friendly diameters.

bluraff3 · Aug 30, 2014

QuikWgn said:
I bought a couple of $7 bundles of G-Plat and Royal wires to try out. To me the main advantages are malleability and much quicker heat/cool cycling vs kanthal. The thing I can't quite figure out (as I am an experienced welder) is that I can only find .030" (which is about 20.5ga) and larger diameters like .035" & .045" in ER317L. I think their 'custom manufactured' claim comes from some sources on Alibaba that I found that would make custom diameter wire in ER317L. So it may be true that the non-welding specific diameters were 'custom manufactured', but the material itself is common. I also believe they probably had the wire multi cycle annealed to further soften it up. The cheapest I have found it for is $29 + shipping for a 2lb spool of .030" (which is probably at least 200') at http://www.bakersgas.com/CRO-SS317_1XE.html#22918 & I also heard the VapeMeshCompany out of the UK will be selling it as well http://www.vape-atomizer-mesh.com/ possibly in smaller vape friendly diameters.

Yeah I did a quick search and couldn't find any reasonable sized diameters, but I assumed those within the welding community would know better where to get it. Interesting to hear that its not common in smaller diameters.

QuikWgn · Aug 30, 2014

The .030" is 20.5ga which is reasonable in cloud style 22mm RDA's like the DOGE competition, PlumeVeil etc. It's alot easier for 28+mm since there is more room under the hood.

kevin666 · Aug 31, 2014

http://www.weldwire.net/weld_products/ww317l-2/ they have it in .025

Talon4x4 · Sep 1, 2014

kevin666 said:
http://www.weldwire.net/weld_products/ww317l-2/ they have it in .025

Comparing the chemical composition of the GPlat to the stuff on this page I don't see iron listed. Is that because its assumed?! Even if it is shouldn't they still show how much is in it?

iLLwiLL · Sep 2, 2014

Lolz, thats some funny stuff. I picked up some pyro wire from a local shop that was explained to me as identical to gplat ... guess now I know they werent lying.

kinged8th · Oct 6, 2014

A local shop was selling this shit for $23 for 3 ft. Dude said, $23, I said, what?. He said yeah, its G-plat. I walked out!

Pancho_Brown · Oct 6, 2014

Damn.. 23 bucks for 3ft..

Zombiewoof · Oct 6, 2014

Interesting thread. I can imagine we'll see more and more of this type of thing over the next few years. I'm a computer technician with a background in electronic technology, resistance wire has been used in electronics forever, literally. I don't see any reason that you would need to use anything else, unless somehow it was manufactured specifically for use in an atomizer. I'm not sure what that would be exactly as kanthal A1 would be exactly that. Based on cost\resistance\diameter sizing per foot, there really would be no, or shouldn't be any reason to use anything but kanthal, unless you were using something like stainless steel mesh in a Genesis type atomizer. I guess ceramics would be the next logical step, however the ceramic "donuts" that are available now leave much to be desired. Time will tell, but for now the simple answer is the best answer.

UncleRJ · Oct 6, 2014

Kanthal works for me.

I have about 80' left on the spool.

Me happy.

5150sick · Oct 6, 2014

This wire is 316L Stainless Steel ( Surgical Grade) 24ga.
I gave it a shot and it's nice and soft.
Resistance is similar to kanthal.
Well worth the 7 bucks for 50 feet to give it a shot
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281407911746?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

I am kind of scared to use it long term though because I can't find much info on it:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-vaping-discussion/603440-can-316l-ss-used-coils.html

All the mesh from the genny builds are made of it though.

https://redditjs.com/r/electronic_cigarette/comments/2cq43s/L/cjk8v4r

Pancho_Brown · Oct 6, 2014

I might be willing to give it a shot as well. I still have well over 100' of kanthal in various gauges though, so I'm not to sure when ill get around to doing to actually buying it lol

MKPM · Oct 7, 2014

bluraff3 said:
I still want to try the stuff, just don't want to mortgage my house to get it. Since the cats out of the bag, I'm sure someone will buy it in bulk and sell it at a price similar to kanthal.

I have used it and will say that it is not better so much as it generates a LOT of heat, and when I say a LOT...I mean........if you pulse it for as long as many do with Kanthal....you will pop a coil.

MKPM · Oct 7, 2014

As far as Gplat being 316L stainless.........no. Stainless is substantially harder than Gplat. I use 316L wire of varying gauges with my chain maille work...and it is the stainless used in good body jewelry.

bluraff3 · Oct 7, 2014

franciscan said:
I have used it and will say that it is not better so much as it generates a LOT of heat, and when I say a LOT...I mean........if you pulse it for as long as many do with Kanthal....you will pop a coil.

Good to know. Thanks! Looks like I'm sticking with kanthal for the foreseeable future.

Zombiewoof · Oct 7, 2014

bluraff3 said:
Good to know. Thanks! Looks like I'm sticking with kanthal for the foreseeable future.

A good reason would be that it will always work, it' cheap, and it's readily available. If say, Nichrome wire would have been a better alternative, it would have gone that way. Don't get me wrong Nichrome is a perfectly viable alternative, but resistance per guage per foot via cost?

5150sick · Oct 7, 2014

Nichrome burns hot too. If you aren't careful when pulsing you can pop the coil.
You can pretty much fire an unwicked kanthal coil for as long as you want.

Zombiewoof · Oct 8, 2014

5150sick said:
Nichrome burns hot too. If you aren't careful when pulsing you can pop the coil.
You can pretty much fire an unwicked kanthal coil for as long as you want.

Really not what I was getting at, but you're right. The point I was trying to make was that given the alternative and that kanthal didn't exsist, nichrome would have probably been the best resistance wire easily available, resistance per foot at cost per foot. As it sits, kanthal is the best and easiest, procurement wise, cost wise , resistance wire available.

5150sick · Oct 9, 2014

Nichrome is for sure the 2nd place of resistance wires when you compare cost per foot, resistance per foot, and durability.
I think that the old kanger heads (really old, T2 and MT3) may have been nichrome.
There was time when they came out with 'upgraded' heads back in 2012 and I think they may have made the switch to kanthal then.
The heads looked the same but lasted longer.

Brian33 · Oct 9, 2014

I bought gplat 26g 6ft for $6 and it is amazing i like it. But i will go for a spool of kanthal next time and just but some wata cotton

Pancho_Brown · Oct 9, 2014

Yeah the price doesn't really make me want to try it. I could easily get 50ft of any gauge Kanthal for the same price.

Spiralnebel · Oct 10, 2014

And which one is now the same as the GPlat v1.2 22gauge?

5150sick · Oct 10, 2014

317L stainless?

VH fan · Oct 11, 2014

Man, anything to rip off the average consumer these days huh , it's wise to do your own research , those who don't usually get taken advantage of.

Smoky Blue · Oct 11, 2014

hey @Pancho_Brown .. whaddya know on Boom wire??

Pancho_Brown · Oct 11, 2014

I honestly never heard of that wire. But I will look around and see what I can find out for you Miss. Blue

Smoky Blue · Oct 11, 2014

Pancho_Brown said:
I honestly never heard of that wire. But I will look around and see what I can find out for you Miss. Blue

Thank you very much Sr. Pancho

supermarket · Oct 16, 2014

I don't understand how people in the vaping community are so gullible to begin with. As soon as I heard about this gplat wire, I knew it was nothing special. Same for rayon, or the newest wicking craze. Sure, there are minor differences in different wire and wick materials, but minor is the key word.

It is the same with box mods and mechanical mods. Every month there is a new mechanical mod that is the best thing since sliced bread.....but is it really different than the one from the month before? Remember how crazy everyone went for the Nemesis?

The honest to god truth, is that some of the BEST vaping materials , and hardware in the market can be found at VERY reasonable prices. Want great wire? Temco. Want great wicking material? Get some japanese organic cotton, a lifetime supply should run you about $30. Great box mods are around for under $100. Great mech mods for under $20-50. Great delivery devices for under $30.

Zamazam · Oct 16, 2014

UncleRJ said:
Kanthal works for me.

I have about 80' left on the spool.

Me happy.

Same here. Bought 250' of 28 gauge, 100' of 24 Gauge, and 100' of 22 Gauge Kanthal for $50. Screw Gplat.

Zodwraith · Jan 30, 2015

Picked some up to test it against some gplat myself. I actually love the gplat I've used so far because it's ramp up time is so short. I just avoid using it in experimental builds for the high costs. I got it for $16 for 15ft. Going directly between kanthal and gplat I really do notice a difference in taste. I tend to taste a slight metallic hint with kanthal that is absent in gplat. I hadn't noticed until using gplat for a couple weeks then going back to kanthal.

If it does compare to gplat do I feel ripped off? Yeah, kind of but it's not like I spent hundreds on it. I'll definitely avoid Vapinology in the future though. They had to know the cat would get out eventually and they'd look like the crooks they are. Even if it IS a custom wire they had produced as they claim there's no way it's worth a buck a foot. To they guy that was quoted @ $23/3ft that's a store I'd avoid like the plague as they're obviously profiteering.

Number3124 · Feb 1, 2015

$23 for 3ft?!?!?! That's what? About 6 coils? Fuck that noise. I can get Kanthal A1 for ~$10 by the 100ft spool depending on the gauge.

Anus Braun · Feb 1, 2015

5150sick said:
I personally never trusted those vapinology assholes since they were promising to give out the data sheet on the wire first thing tomorrow.

They did that for about 3 weeks and then said there is just "a little bit" of manganese in the wire, then they said Gplat was just made in the same plant as other wires and may have came come in contact with the same machinery as wires containing manganese during the machining process.

Then their 'team of lawyers' aka the one guy who works there that finished the whole 2 years of community college told them to not tell us if the wire would kill us or not.

They should have just got a certified letter from a metallurgist that stated the wire is just as safe as kanthal.

Everyone would have been happy, Fanboys would have continued to pay $25.00 for 15 feet of the same shit we use hang pictures up with and no one would have had to get the wire tested.

Dumbasses!!!

I wouldn't sweat 'oddball' wire, too much, unless it were FLUX-CORE..

2c5000 · Feb 5, 2015

what are options for titanium wire?

when i search for it online i find vape heads talking about it, but never where to find it.

i would like to try a side by side flavor taste against kanthal with it.

can anyone recommend where to get titanium wire for vaping?

Anus Braun · Feb 6, 2015

Sick yer favorite search engine onto 'Titanium wire' your sure to come up with a couple sources...I use 'Ixquick"

TheBloke · Apr 15, 2015

Just found this thread searching for Stainless Steel vaping wire (trying to work out what it was / the benefits!)

My favourite UK wire company, The Crazy Wire Company, are now stocking this wire, which they've branded TMC wire. They said they had a lot of demand for it, no doubt as a result of these GPlat people and the debacle there.

The cost? £2.50 / $3.70 for 10 metres / 33 feet. i.e. the same as all their other wire. Don't know how that compares with buying it by weight, but the advantage would be you can buy it by the spool rather than the truck-load, and it's on an easy spool and it's definitely safe for vaping.

I still haven't quite established the benefit of it - I think it's just a very low resistance wire, like nickel, but maybe easier to handle the nickel?

But anyway if you want it, you can now get it at reasonable prices and quantities! I'm going to throw in one spool with my wire re-order to see if I can discern any benefits over Kanthal / Nickel.

Neunerball · Apr 15, 2015

I've tried G-Plat myself. However, IMO, you can get same results with Kanthal A1, if you know what you're doing.

Pancho_Brown · Apr 15, 2015

TheBloke said:
Just found this thread searching for Stainless Steel vaping wire (trying to work out what it was / the benefits!)

My favourite UK wire company, The Crazy Wire Company, are now stocking this wire, which they've branded TMC wire. They said they had a lot of demand for it, no doubt as a result of these GPlat people and the debacle there.

The cost? £2.50 / $3.70 for 10 metres / 33 feet. i.e. the same as all their other wire. Don't know how that compares with buying it by weight, but the advantage would be you can buy it by the spool rather than the truck-load, and it's on an easy spool and it's definitely safe for vaping.

I still haven't quite established the benefit of it - I think it's just a very low resistance wire, like nickel, but maybe easier to handle the nickel?

But anyway if you want it, you can now get it at reasonable prices and quantities! I'm going to throw in one spool with my wire re-order to see if I can discern any benefits over Kanthal / Nickel.

The lower resistance and ease of handle was the main selling point of the G-plat wire. I never tried it my self but I was always happy with kanthal.

Any one thinking about or currently using Gplat Wire check this out.

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