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whiteowl84

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You got a AV sleeve, a heatsink and a 18350 SMPL for less then $10? How does it clapton without a motor? No real control on speed and you need to hit the button to run it?

a Drill or Dremel and a Spool Tamer for less then $30 altogether makes the perfect setup that does much more then just clapton.
Yep. I went to the pawn shop for my go to drill. Only $40 for the drill and 3 batteries.
It was nice to be able to test them first so I would know which ones were able to spin slowly for staggering.
 

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Prime bruh, free shipping
http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=251962126793

5 pack, same price and free shipping.


Any time I order from Amazon I spoof a new email and get a 1 month prime account...not just for the free shipping but to stick it to the man while purchasing products from the man.

How do you guys set up a 4+ core alien?
My way seems hit or miss.
 

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http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=251962126793

5 pack, same price and free shipping.


Any time I order from Amazon I spoof a new email and get a 1 month prime account...not just for the free shipping but to stick it to the man while purchasing products from the man.

How do you guys set up a 4+ core alien?
My way seems hit or miss.
I watched a tsuka tutorial of someone using hotglue..
 

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Mind_forge is a good guy, Im glasd hes finally doing videos for people...
 

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You got a AV sleeve, a heatsink and a 18350 SMPL for less then $10? How does it clapton without a motor? No real control on speed and you need to hit the button to run it?

a Drill or Dremel and a Spool Tamer for less then $30 altogether makes the perfect setup that does much more then just clapton.

Nah brah the 'Clapton Tool' was less than ten LoL. Apologies if I worded my previous post confusingly. When you put the motorized 'Clapton Tool' on a mech mod you have made a 'Clapton Tool Mod'. I'm sure there a many subjective, far superior ways of making clap wire but alas i got one of these for the funzees, I figured Id tell you guys about it.

The Wingman sleeve fits the SMPL 350 with the 22mm heat sink on it. Who doesn't have a heat sink laying around? The Clapton Tool is 24mm wide, the SMPL with Able sleeve is 24mm.

The Motorized Clapton Tool will work with with voltages 3.7v - 12v, so you can used the motor on let's say a stacked Able Mod or NC, and it will spin 2x as fast as when on a single battery. It would spin 3x as fast on a triple stacked Able Mod.
We're not talking about making 30 yards at a time, so pressing the button isn't really that big a deal. Drill has a trigger too. A Magnet on the bottom contact closes the circuit if you want it to stay on w/o pressing the button. A side-fire mech with stacked 350s is probably the most useful way to use this tool.

So like I said before, the motorized Clapton tool can be had for 10$ or less, I had all the other shit, plus swivels n wire. I can now bang out a couple feet of alien wire with this setup and mount a pair in the time it takes To watch an episode of WestWorld. It's more quiet than a drill in the middle of the night, as well. ;]


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How much are coils worth? Assuming they are perfect.
Nothing super original just the advanced basics.
Alien, staple/framed ,fraliens/staliens, SFC and SSFC.
 

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How much are coils worth? Assuming they are perfect.
Nothing super original just the advanced basics.
Alien, staple/framed ,fraliens/staliens, SFC and SSFC.
Depends on what you feel they are worth....There isnt a standard
 

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I actually like the SMPL Clapton tool lol, it may not be the most precise or advanced tool, and is not as good as a drill, but for me it would be perfect as finding time to run the drill with a 4 month old can be a bit complicated lol. I may have to make one for myself and see what's up! I've been itching to start working on Aliens and moving forward with my build skills again. Haven't built anything since July outside of twisted or just round wire.


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Depends on what you feel they are worth....There isnt a standard
Well the reason I ask is because if you look up ssfc on ebay they are selling them for about what I would...but they suck out loud. They use 34g.
I just didn't want to sell myself short.
But I see what you mean.

So I'll be placing an ebay order soon. 38g, 40g, 46g, 0.4mm and spool tamers.
I was looking for a goon clone to toss in there and I found this:

This is where i pasted a link but it doesn't show up.


They basically sat a goon clone on a tank. I want one but I don't want to wait a month for a turd. Any one know anything about it or if I should get one?
My petri rta clone from 3f is jankey so it's totally possible to get a bunk clone.
 

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Not sure if anyone here knows much about this RDA, its a rare gem known as the Reload RDA. bLAH bLAH Blah new sponsor Blah Blah bLAH...Im sure you guys are getting sick of hearing it so I wont fill it all in...
Spaced Aliens Caged with Vertabraid...I am no braider...

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Good screw design. Love the bottom air flow.
What's up with all these spaced aliens lately? :p
 

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Well the reason I ask is because if you look up ssfc on ebay they are selling them for about what I would...but they suck out loud. They use 34g.
I just didn't want to sell myself short.
But I see what you mean.

So I'll be placing an ebay order soon. 38g, 40g, 46g, 0.4mm and spool tamers.
I was looking for a goon clone to toss in there and I found this:


They basically sat a goon clone on a tank. I want one but I don't want to wait a month for a turd. Any one know anything about it or if I should get one?
My petri rta clone from 3f is jankey so it's totally possible to get a bunk clone.
Alot of those sellers on Ebay (Besides Chef and Big_D here) have many angry customers....Ive heard so much crap that has happened with them its unbelievable how some arent being sued..
My SSFC's would be comprised of 12 x .3R/30g 316L/38g 316L/ 42N80 or KD

It would take roughly about 40 minutes start to finish for a pair and I wouldnt charge less then $25/pair for them due to the time, difficulty and material need for them and most people will think Im crazy for charging less then $40 for them...but Im not really running a true business model...Im the guy building to sustain his collection, not a company...

Ive been playing with more alien stagg variants...so Ive got alot of spaced alien wire laying around ;)
 

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Not sure if anyone here knows much about this RDA, its a rare gem known as the Reload RDA. bLAH bLAH Blah new sponsor Blah Blah bLAH...Im sure you guys are getting sick of hearing it so I wont fill it all in...
Spaced Aliens Caged with Vertabraid...I am no braider...

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It's encouragement for me
 

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@raymo2u love the look of that thing. I swear I'm going to spend all my money on vape gear. Lol. I have to say your coils are more than worth the money. Stuck one in my limitless and loving it so far.

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I thought about it. I'll probably try a 32g multi-core one after I get the frames right for the helix ssfc. As I go down fusing it the twists get farther apart. Last night widowmaker said to twist till it breaks from both ends. That's just what I'll do.
Just tired of aliens atm
 

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Any advice you have for the multiple core alien would be appreciated.
I'm going to go for a 3x 26g sized one I think using a 24g decore.

Here's what I'm thinking:
Lay out 32g till I'm the right width and glue them. Repeat that a few times and stack them till I'm the right thickness.
Glue both ends good and twist around the swivel. Sound right? I skipped the various binding I'll use. Seems like a given.

I bet they suck up the juice and light up fast.
 

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Any advice you have for the multiple core alien would be appreciated.
I'm going to go for a 3x 26g sized one I think using a 24g decore.

Here's what I'm thinking:
Lay out 32g till I'm the right width and glue them. Repeat that a few times and stack them till I'm the right thickness.
Glue both ends good and twist around the swivel. Sound right? I skipped the various binding I'll use. Seems like a given.

I bet they suck up the juice and light up fast.
15-20 strands of 32, Loop and glue. Use a Ribbon Slider or Drawstring squeezy thing for support. Use 22g decore and just let it wrap itself, make sure to stretch it to the width you want before wrapping it and wrap with barely any tension.
 

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So it took almost two weeks but I finally got my Spin LT, and they threw in a free matching black cord lock for holding the cores... I havent really put it to a good test yet but I am impressed with the quality even if its a tad over-priced. Do you guys recommend any disassembly and lubrication before I really cut into it? And if so what should I use?
 

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15-20 strands of 32, Loop and glue. Use a Ribbon Slider or Drawstring squeezy thing for support. Use 22g decore and just let it wrap itself, make sure to stretch it to the width you want before wrapping it and wrap with barely any tension.
Ok, that makes sense. The reason I said 24g is because I've used 22g before and ended up with hollow sides on a 4x 28g.
 

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So it took almost two weeks but I finally got my Spin LT, and they threw in a free matching black cord lock for holding the cores... I havent really put it to a good test yet but I am impressed with the quality even if its a tad over-priced. Do you guys recommend any disassembly and lubrication before I really cut into it? And if so what should I use?
I had some singer sewing oil laying around so I use that. I use a syringe to get between the seal and ring.
Don't use wd40 on bearings.
 

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So it took almost two weeks but I finally got my Spin LT, and they threw in a free matching black cord lock for holding the cores... I havent really put it to a good test yet but I am impressed with the quality even if its a tad over-priced. Do you guys recommend any disassembly and lubrication before I really cut into it? And if so what should I use?
If the bearing spins freely then your good to go, just makes sure its perfectly lined up to your drill chuck.
 

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Wtf how
The method used showed for the 4 core?
Yes. I bind 4" in a few spots and double it over the swivel. Then hold it flat with pliers and twist the swivel.
You can also use less by binding and bending the last 1.5" or so over the swivel so they are sitting side by side or over top and bind them together.
 

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Yes. I bind 4" in a few spots and double it over the swivel. Then hold it flat with pliers and twist the swivel.
You can also use less by binding and bending the last 1.5" or so over the swivel so they are sitting side by side or over top and bind them together.
Just making sure you weren't holding out! I need all the help I can get
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Just making sure you weren't holding out! I need all the help I can get
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It looks good. If you use the clip method for spacing they should be identical spaces. If you go slow enough you should be able to hit every one square.
 

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It looks good. If you use the clip method for spacing they should be identical spaces. If you go slow enough you should be able to hit every one square.
The frame got messed up during the whole "how do I stagger ribbon" debacle. But I didn't feel like making more. I have a new clip that is on point. Had to drive 30 minutes to the closest town for diapers. My buddy wants some coils so gonna build him something then build me more
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Wow I think I made a mistake in my assumptions about this forum by all the positive vibes in this thread... I try posting something I thought was important in another part of the forums and just get mocked


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Wow I think I made a mistake in my assumptions about this forum by all the positive vibes in this thread... I try posting something I thought was important in another part of the forums and just get mocked


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That depends on what you posted and where..there are a few on the forum that are "entertainers"...just roll with the punches bud. Growing with the forum slowly and building a reputation will help you in the long run but dont expect everyone to treat you decently, trolls are every where and its a Saturday night ;)

Plus builders seem to be the more caring group of vapers, its more then a fad or hobby for them, its a lifestyle and 99% of us are in it to help others
 

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I brought up the fact that a lot of Japanese cotton is grown in Fukushima prefecture.... I'll let you guys fill in the gaps


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I brought up the fact that a lot of Japanese cotton is grown in Fukushima prefecture.... I'll let you guys fill in the gaps


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Yea I just went through the thread...dont let it get to you, its good that you shared the info as lurkers will see it and research it themselves, the ones that post against it are just posting to post...impulsive with no real thought but to entertain others. Ive never really thought about it myself but I am curious to find where Cotton Bacon gets their cotton.
 

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Cotton bacon claims to be grown and processed in the US... And I agree with you about the builders.... All the regulars on this thread are just good people, I can't believe how far I've come in such a short time and I credit you guys for your help :)


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I stay in this thread. Not for the reason you posted but because I'm a niche type. I like mods, attys and stuff but I have no money so I don't entice myself. But I love building and learning about it. I love helping people build but I got tired of all the "What wire should I use", "How many wraps of this" and "this tank leaks" threads. After answering these questions 100 times I'm positive...it can be looked up. Hell I didn't join ECF till long after I learned all this stuff on my own.

Plus all my friends are here!
 

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Well Raymo thank you for the tips... spun these tensioned AF and they coiled stupid easy :) I was getting so frustrated with staples. 8 ply .4K/36N80 3mm ID. Now I just have to practice getting the first wrap of the coil to stop bending outward.View attachment 68779
If you're using a coilmaster v4 (recommended) you'll almost always loose that first wrap. I immobilize the wrap on both ends with glue (so the clapton doesn't move), stick the wire in the slot holding it with my thumb and make one full turn pushing the wire with my thumb other thumb. Then I keep my thumb on that wrap and start turning the jig.

If anyone hasn't gotten a good spacing method for ssfc try this crap.
Use the loop method to get and inch from the chuck and start using the bag clip method ( @raymo2u will have to link it) and finish out the wire. Leave the clip on but cut the wire off. Glue it down where the clip spacing started and right next to the clip. Tahdah! Now you have a stick that won't move or spring back.
 

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Thats one tool I havent picked up yet, I still coil freehand around drill bits holding the wire and bit in one hand and wrapping with the other.
 

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Thats one tool I havent picked up yet, I still coil freehand around drill bits holding the wire and bit in one hand and wrapping with the other.
You need one for staples. Either that or bite one end in a vice. It needs to be tight the whole time and your wrists don't swivel. If it's not tight the cores can fold over in the wrap or the whole thing can flop over.
If you get a jig, it needs to be a V4. The V3 doesn't have the slot. I'm sure there's another one out there but I've never seen it.
 

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http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=152345654358&varId=451573945787

I'm getting my monies tomorrow. Can anyone see a reason not to get one? I know the clamps aren't plated but neither are any of my other attys.

I'd like to disassemble and heat treat it.
Does anyone know the specifics of doing this? I'd imagine you'd clean the piss out of it, heat the desired areas and quench it so it doesn't loose it's anti corrosive properties but I don't know for sure.
 
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http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=152345654358&varId=451573945787

I'm getting my monies tomorrow. Can anyone see a reason not to get one? I know the clamps aren't plated but neither are any of my other attys.

I'd like to disassemble and heat treat it.
Does anyone know the specifics of doing this? I'd imagine you'd clean the piss out of it, heat the desired areas and quench it so it doesn't loose it's anti corrosive properties but I don't know for sure.
The fire will clean it! Get it glowing and dunk that sucker! I heat treated my cutters after I sharpened them. I saw those rdta versions and wasn't sold. I love my azeroth too much.
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Well that's why I want one. The Azeroth would be another 20 to get two and I can't swing it. I almost forgot something I need. PLASTIC GEARS!
 

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http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=152345654358&varId=451573945787

I'm getting my monies tomorrow. Can anyone see a reason not to get one? I know the clamps aren't plated but neither are any of my other attys.

I'd like to disassemble and heat treat it.
Does anyone know the specifics of doing this? I'd imagine you'd clean the piss out of it, heat the desired areas and quench it so it doesn't loose it's anti corrosive properties but I don't know for sure.
Looks like it's the same design as the original avocados, gotta pull your wick tail to fill it, that will get old quick if that's the case. I love my avocados, amazing flavor and great clouds but I can drain the tank in 20 minutes so they only get used when I'm being lazy and lounging in my recliner
 

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