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Dreamject

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Hello!
English is not my native language and I know it pretty bad, so, I can not google it well.

I know that a lot of people care about vaping affects on health, but in Russia, in 1st channel we know from crazy (as I think) old Woman Malysheva and most popular tv-doctor these facts about vaping:

1. Vapers vapors automobile antifreeze . I was shoked...
2. Eliquids is consist of concentrated carcinogens
3. Vape causes cancer, not can be reason of cancer, what we can read on sigarette box, but vaping is true way to call cancer in your body (in new law-project)
4. Vape is more dangerous than cigarette

5. Malysheva does not say it, but people thinks that vape is for cocks and gays

Also, thre is more horribly things about vaping in Russia. What can you tell about it? Is these facts myth or not? What about vape-myth in your country?
 

Dreamject

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The dude likes it


Malysheva called him Zmej-Gorynych, like Mounties-Snake, our dragon :)
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pizzadave80

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I wish I knew what they were saying.... pretty funny to just put words on their mouth though

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Jimi D

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Hmm... What about antifreeze? Now it's our country's meme.
Oh yeah. I remember when my wife went to one of those fucktarded quit smokng rituals. It was back in 2009. They told her don't use those ecig thingy's. It contains antifreeze. Diethylene Glycol and Propylene Glycol are both antifreeze. Diethylene is the toxic chemical used in industrial applications. Propylene Glycol is used in the food industry (nontoxic).
 

pizzadave80

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I actually came across a 55 gallon drum of PG at work. It is used in cooling tower systems as a coolant because it has a low freeze point.. this is food grade type and not a pharmaceutical grade but was still propylene glycol......

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Jimi D

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I actually came across a 55 gallon drum of PG at work. It is used in cooling tower systems as a coolant because it has a low freeze point.. this is food grade type and not a pharmaceutical grade but was still propylene glycol......

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Yeah, people even vape the pg from Tractor Supply. For cows Lol
 

pizzadave80

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I was tempted to grab some because it is food grade...I would assume it's all the same...but pg is so cheap...why risk that one

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Jimi D

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I was tempted to grab some because it is food grade...I would assume it's all the same...but pg is so cheap...why risk that one

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Agreed. I'll stick to Froggy's Fog pg. Been using it since 2012.
 

z man

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I wish I knew what they were saying.... pretty funny to just put words on their mouth though

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On the bottom to the settings,You can go to CC,and set translator to English,I just watched it and it is funny how They demonize E Ciggs....Z
 

Dreamject

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On the bottom to the settings,You can go to CC,and set translator to English,I just watched it and it is funny how They demonize E Ciggs....Z
Youtube parse Russian speach pretty bad, i've found original, some part.
But interview is more funny. For example, she says «Now, you can see a lot of smoke from children, car. Moscow and other cities are in smoke»

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Google translate:
Electronic cigarettes are often called safe for health. They came into our lives 10 years - 15 ago, but to study the impact on health of these gadgets have started only in 2009. The federal agency in charge of quality control of food and medicines at the request of the American Lung Association examined electronic cigarettes. By then the data, they help reduce nicotine cravings and contributed to withdrawal from tobacco. As a result, it was concluded that they not only do not help to quit smoking, but do them little good. Now in the United States passed a law that would treat any electronic cigarettes as tobacco. With the exception of those on which there is a mark "to help quit smoking." To have the right to put such a mark, the firm must conduct clinical trials and to confirm the claimed quality. At the moment, no manufacturer of electronic cigarettes this right is not received.

In Russia, we are witnessing a new round of interest in electronic cigarettes. They no longer look like a real cigarette - now it's steam generators. And increasingly, you can watch the people, especially the young, happy puffing through this priborchik. Smoke, and more specifically, to soar it becomes fashionable. How bad is it?

Electronic cigarettes have been created to help people break free from tobacco addiction. But why smoking has become a scourge of humanity? When we get smoking nicotine dose that irritates nicotinic receptors. From them comes the signal in the brain department responsible for pleasure. So fixed habit: a smoke - and becomes well.

Inside the e-cigarette has a container with a liquid containing nicotine. It acts on the receptors in the same way as the tobacco. And rather than weaken the relationship only strengthens it.

Number smoked per day cigarette smoker said. At least in order to understand how many of them left. Well, the harm caused by tobacco is already stuck in the subcortex. Now adopted tough laws that hinder the possibility of the smoker to smoke in most public places.

However, the number of puffs of steam no one believes! Ban on their guy does not. And they were positioned for a long time as a more "healthy". As a result, people blaze steam generators, not taking into account what dose of nicotine is obtained. This often leads to poisoning, which is manifested by nausea, diarrhea, vomiting.

Doctors in trouble: to fashion to electronic cigarettes they had never seen smokers Nakuru to diarrhea. Now, in the hospital regularly receives young people from nicotine poisoning symptoms.

The active substance of steam generators contain carcinogens - formaldehyde, antifreeze. What is usually poured under the hood of the car, with the help of electronic cigarettes we breathe in concentrated form inside! Moreover, these substances are converted into hot steam, are deposited on the mucosa of the throat, nose, eyes. And there is much easier to penetrate into the bloodstream, poisoning the body and significantly increasing the risk of cancer. And not only in smokers, but also in others.

One conclusion: the electronic cigarette in any form is not a healthy habit. And they all restrictions of smoking should be extended.
 
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Angrygod50

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Sounds like the same BS everywhere. And yes PG is sometimes used in anti-freeze and in tooth paste, mouthwash, beauty products and the like.
 

Jim_MDP

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Yeah, people even vape the pg from Tractor Supply. For cows Lol

I think it's VG that's used (in large quantities no less) in the feed of pregnant cattle, but I could be wrong. Feed stores carry both.

I got to know PG as a casual cigar smoker.
An unusual property is that in an enclosed space with the proper amount, it will regulate the relative humidity to 70% (hydroscopic?).

So it's the goto humidity control in humidors, in a container or sponge material... hell, loose in a little dish works in a pinch (~72% would be better on average, but nothing's perfect).
 

Jim_MDP

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Sounds like the same BS everywhere. And yes PG is sometimes used in anti-freeze and in tooth paste, mouthwash, beauty products and the like.


Given the property I mentioned above, it's no surprise you'll find PG in a ton of foods.
For example... keeps soft cookies moist.

Might be easier to find foods without. ;)
 

scalewiz

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Absolutely every statement you make has been proven false or seriously overstated. The antifreeze thing, the cancer causing things, on and on, they have been proven false. In fact, there is zero evidence to this date that anyone has been killed or seriously harmed by vaping. Only by foolish accident have bad things occurred.

We believe that such claims by people and governing authorities are completely false and reject their claims. After that, we're only peasants.
 

MD_Boater

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You should call her and tell her that Vodka is a better antifreeze than PG.

The freezing point of 80 proof vodka is -26.95C

Pure propylene glycol freezes at about -57 degrees F (-13.9C)

So... Apparently, you Russians love to drink antifreeze. What's the problem with vaping some?
 

Ryan57348

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Honestly don't think any of that is true. Feel much better since I stopped smoking


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