Evolv dropped the DNA 250?

If Provape ever teamed up with Evolv you'de have to get a loan to buy one of their mods.

Though I appreciate their attention to details, I do not appreciate that let's keep our mods weak and safe so that our stupid customers won't hurt themselves way of thinking.

Nobody in his right mind would pick the Radius over one of the better constructed DNA200 mods.

60W 9.5A 0.3 ohm mod for 200$ wtf were they thinking? They just live in the past.

bahahahahaa oh man.... better yet... try swapping batteries on thing

Why stop at 250? Why not do it properly, like 4s support and 350w. Or a nice round number, DNA400.

Rommel said:

Why stop at 250? Why not do it properly, like 4s support and 350w. Or a nice round number, DNA400.

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I would have waited with the 250W upgrade because let's be honest, there is almost nobody at the moment that needs more then 200W.
Constantly raising the bar without an actual reason is something I would have expected from the Chinese, not Evolv.

nightshard said:

I would have waited with the 250W upgrade because let's be honest, there is almost nobody at the moment that needs more then 200W.
Constantly raising the bar without an actual reason is something I would have expected from the Chinese, not Evolv.

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If they are going to do something like that, might as well do it properly the first time. I rarely go above 18-20w myself, but i know a bunch of guys that vape at 200w, 300w, even 400w+ daily. It doesn't hurt anyone to have that option, or be the only company to have that option on their chip.

Im sure its possible to do something like that, maybe go to 75w with a single cell, 133w with two cells etc all the way up to 400w in 4s configuration.

Why would they want to make an all-in-one chip and sell one, when they can sell several chips to the same customer as he advances in wattage?
It is a business after all.

Besides, this kind of chip would be more expensive and wouldn't make much sense to a customer that could manage with a cheaper DNA40 chip for example.

And besides that, most people don't modify their mods, so an X battery mod remains an X battery mod, making a modular chip useless.

nightshard said:

I would have waited with the 250W upgrade because let's be honest, there is almost nobody at the moment that needs more then 200W.
Constantly raising the bar without an actual reason is something I would have expected from the Chinese, not Evolv.

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Lets be honest. With the regs that took effect on 8-8. Just how could they have waited??? Here's an idea, if you don't like the 250 watt chip, don't buy it.

Cheers,
Steve

Edit Do you not understand the regs? What Evolv did by releasing the DNA250 and DNA60 before the regs hit was try to get a couple more chips out while they still could (future-proof). People that have a DNA40 can upgrade it by dropping in the DNA60 and then be able to use Escribe.

The DNA250 has a few upgrades over the DNA200, 2 amp on-board charging, reverse polarity protection, higher amp fuse, etc. It also has the same footprint of the DNA200 chip so people that want to upgrade their DNA200's can just drop it in.

Not every chip is for everyone. There are lots of chips by lots of companies I don't like. My answer is not to buy them.

Wingsfan0310 said:

Lets be honest. With the regs that took effect on 8-8. Just how could they have waited??? Here's an idea, if you don't like the 250 watt chip, don't buy it.

Cheers,
Steve

Edit Do you not understand the regs? What Evolv did by releasing the DNA250 and DNA60 before the regs hit was try to get a couple more chips out while they still could (future-proof). People that have a DNA40 can upgrade it by dropping in the DNA60 and then be able to use Escribe.

The DNA250 has a few upgrades over the DNA200, 2 amp on-board charging, reverse polarity protection, higher amp fuse, etc. It also has the same footprint of the DNA200 chip so people that want to upgrade their DNA200's can just drop it in.

Not every chip is for everyone. There are lots of chips by lots of companies I don't like. My answer is not to buy them.

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Well said

I have had ENOUGH DNA chip hoopla! It's for people with enough time and patience to learn how to program box mod computer chips before setting up your own from scratch, most features are too detailed that the entire setup is 5x overpriced. It's a protype chip in crappy box mods likely due to bad communication between Evolv (U.S. based company) and the Chinese masters of vaporizer ectronic devices. But The Triad 250 is huve and heavy, the Vapirshark is smaller but not considered lightweight portable, and Provari DNA 250 mods dont exist anymore because Provari went out of business. That mod is heavyyyy metal. Now my point is why not get the Smok GX350 or Wismec Reuleaux RX300 Quad-battery regulated box mod with extra protection, tons if TC content to keep TC users satisfied with their best coil builds or V12-T12/V12-T6/V12-X4 and the Reux tank dual .15ohm 90W-180W rated coil. Sense Blazer 200 Subohm Tank has a .2ohm "100W-200W' suggested sweet spot range coil. It's their only regular real cloud chasing coil. Though it's compatible with all TFV8 coils so Im charging VTC5As for the RX300 now and want to save the coil instead of an overusage early burnout. First The V8-T10 loses it's flavor as time passes, and the cotton looks darker each time you check it's look. Then one day or during a day of excessive use you may find yourself needing a new coil much sooner than expected but the wattage and resistance, even and especially newer coil builds from the manufacturer, take a toll on some coils that couldve bern improved

NickyGiaccone said:

I have had ENOUGH DNA chip hoopla! It's for people with enough time and patience to learn how to program box mod computer chips before setting up your own from scratch, most features are too detailed that the entire setup is 5x overpriced. It's a protype chip in crappy box mods likely due to bad communication between Evolv (U.S. based company) and the Chinese masters of vaporizer ectronic devices. But The Triad 250 is huve and heavy, the Vapirshark is smaller but not considered lightweight portable, and Provari DNA 250 mods dont exist anymore because Provari went out of business. That mod is heavyyyy metal. Now my point is why not get the Smok GX350 or Wismec Reuleaux RX300 Quad-battery regulated box mod with extra protection, tons if TC content to keep TC users satisfied with their best coil builds or V12-T12/V12-T6/V12-X4 and the Reux tank dual .15ohm 90W-180W rated coil. Sense Blazer 200 Subohm Tank has a .2ohm "100W-200W' suggested sweet spot range coil. It's their only regular real cloud chasing coil. Though it's compatible with all TFV8 coils so Im charging VTC5As for the RX300 now and want to save the coil instead of an overusage early burnout. First The V8-T10 loses it's flavor as time passes, and the cotton looks darker each time you check it's look. Then one day or during a day of excessive use you may find yourself needing a new coil much sooner than expected but the wattage and resistance, even and especially newer coil builds from the manufacturer, take a toll on some coils that couldve bern improved

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I completely disagree. I think the DNA 200 chip by far the best in the industry. Escribe can be a bit intimidating at first but once you mess around, it's pretty intuitive. When did provari ever make a DNA mod? Also, the Vaporshark 200 & 250 (they are the same size) is very pocket friendly. It's light weight and around the size of a pack of cigarettes.

Just had the VT250 arrive yesterday, love it, can use my 30mm attys on it.....!

skt239 said:

I completely disagree. I think the DNA 200 chip by far the best in the industry. Escribe can be a bit intimidating at first but once you mess around, it's pretty intuitive. When did provari ever make a DNA mod? Also, the Vaporshark 200 & 250 (they are the same size) is very pocket friendly. It's light weight and around the size of a pack of cigarettes.

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I won't waste my time replying to that guy anymore my friend. Just read his post again (I'm sorry to suggest that). He says don't buy a triple battery Triade or 3S Lipo Vaporshark because they are too big and heavy. Instead buy a quad battery (4) Wismec or Smok because they have extra protection.

What can you say to that other than WTF and scratch your head. It's nothing but contradictions and ridiculousness. A quad battery mod will be the biggest and heaviest. Neither one has more protections than a DNA. No way to respond other than and .

Cheers,
Steve

Wingsfan0310 said:

I won't waste my time replying to that guy anymore my friend. Just read his post again (I'm sorry to suggest that). He says don't buy a triple battery Triade or 3S Lipo Vaporshark because they are too big and heavy. Instead buy a quad battery (4) Wismec or Smok because they have extra protection.

What can you say to that other than WTF and scratch your head. It's nothing but contradictions and ridiculousness. A quad battery mod will be the biggest and heaviest. Neither one has more protections than a DNA. No way to respond other than and .

Cheers,
Steve

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Reminds me of another nonsensical argument someone had with the evolv board circa the sx'm'


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I Don't yet have a DNA250 myself due to not needing 250W, but do have 4 DNA200's and a DNA75 in the collection, and I have to disagree that they are only for people with time and patience to program them, and also are overpriced.

A lot of Evolv devices now come with profiles pre installed, my SDNA 75 come fully set up with profiles from soft- to hard+. I could of kept the mod set up this way, as it had the wire types I used, and also the profiles were OK, but I wanted to change the preheat as they was all set at 75W, but with low to high punch settings.

I essentially kept the same layout, but just changed the preheat to around 30W for soft-, and the full 75W for Hard+. It did work very well out of the box though with the profiles made my Daniel from youtube. Anyone could of used this mod as it was, without having to use Escribe at all, and a fair few DNA200's come with profiles now too so work well out of the box.

The only protection the DNA200 was missing was reverse polarity protection, but this is because it was designed for use with a 3S Li-Po so was not needed, same with the 250 as explained in the datasheet here- "DNA 250 is designed for battery packs that are permanently installed into the device, or battery packs that install using an insulated, polarized connector rated for at least 30 amps. If the battery pack is installed with the polarity reversed, the fuse will blow to protect the battery pack, board and user. "

So there is still protection to the board in case of reverse polarity, which is a replaceable fuse, just not the type of reverse polarity protection we are now used too.

The DNA75 and DNA60 has reverse polarity protection due to being designed with replaceable batteries in mind.

I think they are top notch boards, and they get a lot of use in my collection. Sure, I do use cheaper mods, and enjoy them a lot too, but think the boards by Evolv are fantastic.

To clarify, the DNA 250 board does have reverse polarity protection on the board.

Eskie said:

To clarify, the DNA 250 board does have reverse polarity protection on the board.

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My apologies here, I don't own the DNA250, only some 200's, and was going from the datasheet, I assumed the fuse would blow the same as the DNA200 in a reverse polarity situation from what Evolv have said.
I thought it was the same type of protection (A fuse), I did not know reverse polarity protection was different to the DNA200.

The reverse polarity protection has been left the way it is on the 200 on purpose.
Evolv has said it since the 40: the reverse polarity protection is left to the modder; because, many would rather put in place their own. This is shown in mods like vapor shark, who have both the warning bell and the regular protection. Putting it in the 250 was done for the same reasons as the stock 2a charging - feb8th and the FDA. Putting in a reverse polarity protection is not exactly a difficult process .

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To be honest, all the posts about how fiddly Escribe was actually worked in its favor for me -- it wasn't as hard as it was made out to be. Sure, some of the Escribe interface could be more intuitive but I've certainly encountered more difficult, fiddly software. Like android smart phones can be a major PITA to configure. For ex., trying to get all my contacts to sync properly in google remains a mystery to me. I delete a number to update a contact and then it reappears. I delete all my contacts, reupload them to my phone, then old numbers appear. I'm close to giving up on this. But I don't muck around much with the Escribe settings -- a few tweaks here and there and then boom, vape, it works.

Wingsfan0310 said:

I won't waste my time replying to that guy anymore my friend. Just read his post again (I'm sorry to suggest that). He says don't buy a triple battery Triade or 3S Lipo Vaporshark because they are too big and heavy. Instead buy a quad battery (4) Wismec or Smok because they have extra protection.

What can you say to that other than WTF and scratch your head. It's nothing but contradictions and ridiculousness. A quad battery mod will be the biggest and heaviest. Neither one has more protections than a DNA. No way to respond other than and .

Cheers,
Steve

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I ws getting ready to comment about what he had to say about the Triade DNA250 (which I have) versus the 4 cell Wismec. Saying that the Triade is huge and heavy while touting a 4 cell, or even the 3 cell Wismec (I have 4 ov them) is insanity.

As for Escribe, after a few times of screwing around with it, I've found it much easier to locate the sweet spot than with playing around with TCR with Wismec or Smok's software. I chased perfection with the Wismec, and was woefully unable to come close to what I've accomplished with the DNA250. Finding that level of perfection in your vape is akin to finding nirvana.

I have two DNA mods...the Triade in 250 and the Therion in 75. I also have a shelf full of well over a dozen and a half different box mods. Guess which ones I use the most...?!!? Evolv's offerings, of course.