Hello vapers, I'm new to this vape thing so I'd like some feed back on what I've been doing. First I go to a local vape shop and get set up with an itaste VV. Great lil machine but I see all of the cool kids using the mech mods so I buy a nemesis and a protank3 also picked up an aspire nautlilus these tanks/ mech setup are just so so. I love the mech mods for their beauty but I want to experience vaping for the awesome flavors everyone's talking about, any suggestions from the peanut gallery??
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Yeah, see, that's kind of the problem with "the scene". The cool kids are using mechs or 5000 watts or double or quad coils with multiple wires. And so you read all this stuff and watch these videos and think this is what you need to do cuz all the cool kids are doing it. It's tempting and all, and I jumped in half-way with starting out with a 30W Chana because I'd rather buy one thing that would have some room to grow, even though I've decided I don't need to sub-ohm or go over 15W, but I've at least left myself those options for later. And rebuilding looks kinda neat, so at the same time I got a mini-nautilus, I bought a RDA to play with. Mechs look cool, but I know they're not for me at all at this stage, would rather have a regulated mod.
I'd say a decent and the new popular choice to bump up to is one of those eleaf isticks that'll do 20W, which should be good enough for most people, though won't sub-ohm. Or if you want to give yourself a little room, you could get a 30W Hana modz box like I got from focalecig, though you have to add the cost of adding a battery too. Now, you were mentioning mods, which is why I'm mentioning them. They'd give you more power than your itaste, but there's many things that can effect taste.
People seem to be loving the new BVC coils in nautys, make sure you're trying one of those in yours. Generally drippers have "the best taste", but then RDAs vary, and then there's the kind of wick you use, the juice you use, and the juice's mix that can vary things up. So no easy answer. Magma's seem to be popular for "taste" people and have a nice deep well. But that's again if you want to fool with rebuilding.
This is greatly a Your Mileage Mary Vary hobby.
I'd say a decent and the new popular choice to bump up to is one of those eleaf isticks that'll do 20W, which should be good enough for most people, though won't sub-ohm. Or if you want to give yourself a little room, you could get a 30W Hana modz box like I got from focalecig, though you have to add the cost of adding a battery too. Now, you were mentioning mods, which is why I'm mentioning them. They'd give you more power than your itaste, but there's many things that can effect taste.
People seem to be loving the new BVC coils in nautys, make sure you're trying one of those in yours. Generally drippers have "the best taste", but then RDAs vary, and then there's the kind of wick you use, the juice you use, and the juice's mix that can vary things up. So no easy answer. Magma's seem to be popular for "taste" people and have a nice deep well. But that's again if you want to fool with rebuilding.
This is greatly a Your Mileage Mary Vary hobby.
I totally agree with you my friend. There's so much to know it'll make your head doin!! So at this point I've been vaping a month, the good note is I've cut my exspensive cigar habit by 2/3 and I'm happy for that. The bad is I've discovered fastech and ordered 3 more mods(2stingrays and a vamo v6) I'm hoping the vamo will be the ticket, I will keep the mechs because quite simply they are beautiful. As for tanks like I said I've got the kanger protank 3 and the aspire nautilis with bvc could and in my opinion they're just so so but then again using the mech is maybe not the best choice? Also been using premium juice blends(spacejam and cyclops, every flavor from both with same results....
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sounds like maybe you dove into the deep end right away when you maybe shoulda waded in a little slower. just so ya know, you really don't have to spend a boat load of money to have a happy vaping experience. to some guys, its a whole bigger/more power is better thing. and maybe that's true....but not necessary.
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Yeah, almost went for the vamo cuz at least it looks close to a tube mod, but then focalecig put these Hana boxes on sale that day so I went with one of those. Are you using the fullsize Nauty or the mini? I'm happy with the adjustable airflow on the mini, don't forget to play with that if you have a mini. I haven't tried the full-size yet, I have one on the way that I won.
Yes jumped in with both feet my friend!! I am not bigger is better person, I just would like to curtail my cigar habit and enjoy the vapes but there's just sooooo much to know, soooo many choices for equipment YIKES!! The full size nautilis is what I've got and yes love that adjustable air flow, someone had their thinking cap on when they designed that!!
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Haha, I think a great idea, or at least a funny one-shot, would be you gals doing a vape vid sitting around talking about egos and flavors.sounds like maybe you dove into the deep end right away when you maybe shoulda waded in a little slower. just so ya know, you really don't have to spend a boat load of money to have a happy vaping experience. to some guys, its a whole bigger/more power is better thing. and maybe that's true....but not necessary.
I don't mean this in a snarkyass way, I mean I think that would actually be pretty funny if done right. Vapor Klatch! You'd have you guy vids with them fogging up the room and then the ladies video with some some well dressed ladies talking about flavor.
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What are the continuous ratings of your batteries, and what kind of meter(s) do you have?
But vapor production is just a few variables:
Heat, airflow, heat distribution/dissipation//surface area of resistor, VG content, and knowing your mod+build&batteries..
Rebuildables have 3categories... well, 4- but nvm that...
Tanks that use differential pressure to control the liquid in the tank. Edit- and to the wick. The kayfun is the first to really master this design..but there are tons of these kinds of tanks, and a lot of them are awesome...
Genesis tanks use a wick to feed upwards onto the deck, stainless steel mesh works best - there are some that have the tanks above deck/coil area, but they function a little differently, since you're not fighting gravity.
Drippers...pretty straightforward in most cases...different airflow styles, capacities, and special atomizers..like the magma isn't geared towards only cloud chasers/lung hitters...it is an incredible atomizer for flavor.. but the origen has been my #1 for a big long time...they can be messy, but easiest to deal with at times...except when you're vaping -lol..some require a lot of refills if you vape a lot at once.
Sleep deprivation..lol
Let us know you're not walking into this blind, and I'm sure we'll be glad to give you a shopping list.
But vapor production is just a few variables:
Heat, airflow, heat distribution/dissipation//surface area of resistor, VG content, and knowing your mod+build&batteries..
Rebuildables have 3categories... well, 4- but nvm that...
Tanks that use differential pressure to control the liquid in the tank. Edit- and to the wick. The kayfun is the first to really master this design..but there are tons of these kinds of tanks, and a lot of them are awesome...
Genesis tanks use a wick to feed upwards onto the deck, stainless steel mesh works best - there are some that have the tanks above deck/coil area, but they function a little differently, since you're not fighting gravity.
Drippers...pretty straightforward in most cases...different airflow styles, capacities, and special atomizers..like the magma isn't geared towards only cloud chasers/lung hitters...it is an incredible atomizer for flavor.. but the origen has been my #1 for a big long time...they can be messy, but easiest to deal with at times...except when you're vaping -lol..some require a lot of refills if you vape a lot at once.
Sleep deprivation..lol
Let us know you're not walking into this blind, and I'm sure we'll be glad to give you a shopping list.
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I think You should get good results with the Vamo and the tanks you are using. Just adjust Voltage or wattage on the Vamo until you get what feels like a good Vape to you. Settings will change depending on What ohm coil you have in tank[and the E-Liquid your are using] and also if airflow is adjustable. Good Luck
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Let me throw in that if you go with the vamo you should set it on watts and not volts as in wattage mode the vamo will automatically set your volts accordingly for your atomizer,for someone just starting this will eliminate a lot of having to keep adjusting settings,start low on watts and adjust it up till you get a good clean vape with no burning,the vamo will adjust the volts for you atomatically no matter which atomizer you are using,,,,,,,,i hope this is helpful,,,,,,and everyone else correct me if im wrong,but this is my understanding on how the vamo works.Thanks
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So you plan on sticking with the sigelei? Or you want to use the nemesis?
You get your atomizer situation figured out?
You get your atomizer situation figured out?
I will use the nemesis for dripping and the sigelei for sitting around for a casual vape, then the vamo as my go to work horse. I've been vaping on my protank 3 with some mango from my local shop its performance is pretty good, also changed the coil on the nautilis and it seems to be doing better. One thing I've noticed is my juice goes in clear but with continued use its turning darker, any thoughts on this matter and better yet how to remedy? I'm also curious, is it worth cleaning the bvc coils??
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The juices will darken over time, that is natural. Air, heat and light can help promote the darkening as well. As long as you do not leave your eliquids in the sunlight, they are perfectly fine getting darker, its like your seasoning the juices. I was a heavy smoker myself, 2 packs a day, 2 to 5 cigars a day and smoked pipe every day as well....vaping helped me walk away from all of them. Love vaping. I was a tank only kinda guy when I started, now I have been dripping for a week and can not see myself going back lol. This hobby is as "collectable" as your cigar hobby was IMHO. But at a much friendly price and with the benefits of less harm. Keep it Foggy!
This is why I am really starting to hate vape shops. When they first open they seem to want to help people quit smoking. After time all they cater to is the cloud chasers and hobbiest and alienate the ones who still actually use vaping as a tool. They try to push mechs and drippers on people who honestly have no idea what they are getting into.Then there are those people who want to jump right into the deep end because their friends have cool mods and they don't want to look silly with their little ego and EVOD. Who the hell cares. Use what works for you and what you are comfortable using. Hell I used ecigs and prefilled cartos for the first few months before ever venturing into liquids. Then I went to mini tanks on my sticks. Finally graduated to egos and bigger tanks and stayed there for my first year. It worked for me and I could care less what people thought of my set-up.
Quit smoking cigarettes 12ish years ago, love my stoges and my pipes. I buy my pipes from macqueen pipes out of Canada same guy that makes all the pipes you see in the lord of the rings movies. They are truly beautiful works of art and smoke better than ANY acrylic pipe. I will always have them. The vape thing I'm grateful for because it helped me cut way down on stoges, STOGES are very bold and harsh but I love them. The juice in referring to is inside the nautilis tank, starts out clear and discolors. Is this burning and that is where my flavorless vape issues stem from? Hmmmmm......
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I kept all of my pipes, I collected one of a kinds and customs, all briar and italian zile, have a few meerschaum as well. I stogies nothing but Alec Bradley Prensado and Hemingway's by Fuente, so that habit got really expensive lol.
Yes, overheating can turn your juice dark fast, some juices in tanks get nasty pretty quick if you run lots of heat to them. If the flavor is carried in the PG, and it has a heavier VG, I have had issues with the flavor burning off and the the VG clogging up the tank a bit. When i used the tanks, i used a 50/50 mix and shook my juice each morning. As for cleaning your coils, I just changed mine out every 4 to 5 days, but you can clean them. I am not sure on the best method for that however.
Yes, overheating can turn your juice dark fast, some juices in tanks get nasty pretty quick if you run lots of heat to them. If the flavor is carried in the PG, and it has a heavier VG, I have had issues with the flavor burning off and the the VG clogging up the tank a bit. When i used the tanks, i used a 50/50 mix and shook my juice each morning. As for cleaning your coils, I just changed mine out every 4 to 5 days, but you can clean them. I am not sure on the best method for that however.
Ahhh the stoges you mentioned love those, one of my personal favs is San latano habano dear lord that's a great smoke. Also love the cuavana intensius and the punisher, punishers are cured with peppers and the tip you put in your mouth has the peppers when this interacts with the smoke and the taste buds its exquisite!! So anyway on the bvc coils the can be cleaned and used till the coil goes correct?
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That's what happens to tanks.
Protanks are pretty bad about it...pretty much any tank will do this.
With most of these tanks, they have really small evaporation chambers. This causes more heat and liquid that pops off coil to be trapped..this darkened goop mixes in with fresh juice.
Kayfuns(and others) are better about this, since the wicks aren't basically sitting in the tank..but when I still used them, I didn't ever fill up a kayfun more than halfway, unless the liquid burns clean.
I love my drippers.. but I LOVE my Gus estia..the only other tank I'll use is the orchid, but it's kind of a trick to figure out wicking..flavor isn't as good, but airflow is wider. So compare dual coil build in the estia to the orchid (dual coil tank...it is possible to make single coil, but not like the estia).
And yes, just remove wick (don't really even have to do that, but I highly recommend rewicking these coils with cotton, rayon, alpaca fiber, hemp... whatever.. there's tons..if you couldn't already tell from the "different" cotton..cotton bacon..fucking cunts. It's just consistent, half-ass iteo pieces of rolled cotton...lol
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I've never owned a protank, lol.. I got a few ce4? clearomizers when they first came out..but I used carto tanks before I landed into the RBA world..but I don't need to use them to know just by replacing the silica wick with cotton is ridiculously better.
Cyclops is THICK liquid...rewick with cotton, and it MIGHT work...
Try adding a drop at a time of distilled water to your tank till it thins out enough to wick properly.. Pure grain alcohol also works.
Cyclops is THICK liquid...rewick with cotton, and it MIGHT work...
Try adding a drop at a time of distilled water to your tank till it thins out enough to wick properly.. Pure grain alcohol also works.
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There's an edit function..
Just realized...protank 3 is a dual coil..so between that, and cyclops.. What wattage are you running it at?
Just realized...protank 3 is a dual coil..so between that, and cyclops.. What wattage are you running it at?
I actually had good luck with cyclops on the tank I started with which was the kangertech pro 2, running the 3 now and having good luck with house blends, I'll have to try cyclops in the kangatech pro3 I have. The nautilis is my tank with issue, I've been experimenting with watts 6-14 but to no avail. I'm wondering if on the coil itself I could open up the wicking ports on the sides slightly, worst that could happen is a flood and a ruined coil...
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Boom.
Is the protank2 still only single coils? Or is yours a single coil? Plus, what's the airflow like when you compare all the tanks?
Is the protank2 still only single coils? Or is yours a single coil? Plus, what's the airflow like when you compare all the tanks?
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What do you want to know? Are you a clone, no clone user, or you don't care user?
Don't get the version 1 of the orchid..rickety.
Ton of info on authentic here...
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...pu2-UlDhmC0M8hWKQ&sig2=ZTEy4vBnUN19y3Y5mMNOlA
Don't get the version 1 of the orchid..rickety.
Ton of info on authentic here...
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...pu2-UlDhmC0M8hWKQ&sig2=ZTEy4vBnUN19y3Y5mMNOlA
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The only difference between 2,3,&4 are aesthetics, and I'm pretty sure 4 is a full size Mtank- PRETTY SURE* that m&nano tanks work with all versions.edit-for kayfuns... someone is using a hcigar kayfun topcap(flat on the inside, so it reaches chimney) to get more capacity out of their v1or2.
Still having terrible luck, I can't keep the nautilis from flooding. Tried to vape it and it keeps flooding, I've followed steps to unflood but to no avail keeps flooding and juice is running out of the air hole in the side ugh!!! So I go to the kanger pro 3 and it just wants to dry hit, watts are low 50/50 juice wth!!!
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I thought I posted?
Oh well, don't have experience with clearomizers...for good reason. They were the worse things in the vaping world when I started...for me at least.. they've improved, but I'll still take a cartomizer tank over the new clearomizers..better vape rebuilt..not with my hassle.
The kayfun is a great starter RBA...super easy..just clones range in quality rather often..but all 9 of the eh pro kayfun lite+ that I had didn't need to be modified to function correctly...I had about 3-4 other kayfun clones alone that needed filing of wick channels and other random stuff..
Check out the lemo instead. Same thing, better airflow.
There's also the Erlkonigen... I've heard great things about those clones.
Google baditude blogs.. read through those.. I don't know if he has a clearo troubleshooting guide, but other tid-bits.
I recommend a dripper though...
I've gotten feedback from someone that I recommended the taj ji to that was new to rebuilding, she recently emailed saying so...and it is cake to set up.. similar to a tobh build, but you can get creative with it...
There are tons of dripper options though... with the tanks, you kinda have to choose what you want out of it...flavor, clouds, and throat hit...coil number...
While the same is true for drippers, they are way way easier to adapt...drill baby, drill..
The taj ji is a nice large capacity dripper..like the origen..I actually have trouble distinguishing the vape from either at same airflow...but taj ji isn't really adjustable.. without a drill..lol.
Magma and holmes are easy to build and flavor machines... but the holmes is a fog machine also.
Plume veil, tobh, stillare, clt..clt v2, dodge, dark horse, little boy, vertex, zenith...I could be here for a while... there are tons..
Edit...I have an extra eh pro.. with a ton of kayfun accessories...tanks &nano drop kit..
Editedit- sorry I didn't clarify, but I view a larger tank as aesthetics...I carry a bottle of juice with me if I'm using one tank..so capacity is rarely a factor with me..
Oh well, don't have experience with clearomizers...for good reason. They were the worse things in the vaping world when I started...for me at least.. they've improved, but I'll still take a cartomizer tank over the new clearomizers..better vape rebuilt..not with my hassle.
The kayfun is a great starter RBA...super easy..just clones range in quality rather often..but all 9 of the eh pro kayfun lite+ that I had didn't need to be modified to function correctly...I had about 3-4 other kayfun clones alone that needed filing of wick channels and other random stuff..
Check out the lemo instead. Same thing, better airflow.
There's also the Erlkonigen... I've heard great things about those clones.
Google baditude blogs.. read through those.. I don't know if he has a clearo troubleshooting guide, but other tid-bits.
I recommend a dripper though...
I've gotten feedback from someone that I recommended the taj ji to that was new to rebuilding, she recently emailed saying so...and it is cake to set up.. similar to a tobh build, but you can get creative with it...
There are tons of dripper options though... with the tanks, you kinda have to choose what you want out of it...flavor, clouds, and throat hit...coil number...
While the same is true for drippers, they are way way easier to adapt...drill baby, drill..
The taj ji is a nice large capacity dripper..like the origen..I actually have trouble distinguishing the vape from either at same airflow...but taj ji isn't really adjustable.. without a drill..lol.
Magma and holmes are easy to build and flavor machines... but the holmes is a fog machine also.
Plume veil, tobh, stillare, clt..clt v2, dodge, dark horse, little boy, vertex, zenith...I could be here for a while... there are tons..
Edit...I have an extra eh pro.. with a ton of kayfun accessories...tanks &nano drop kit..
Editedit- sorry I didn't clarify, but I view a larger tank as aesthetics...I carry a bottle of juice with me if I'm using one tank..so capacity is rarely a factor with me..
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Hey man welcome to vaping, I write abunch of articles for new vapers, you may find useful
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this is a big problem in the community.. pushing sub-ohm builds on people without explaining the negative outcomes or safety involved with running those sort of builds.. this is why I don't go to any of the shops near me anymore.. its just annoying..
last time I went in, I simply asked a kid what mod he was using .. he went into a 6 minute description of his build and crap.. at the end of it he didn't even tell me the mod he was using.. so i just walked away lol.