Best Quad Battery Regulated Mod?

Carambrda · May 22, 2017

SirRichardRear said:
So basically you are making a bunch of accusations against me which is nothing but BS cause I gave a fair review from a mod that is the only chip you own lol. Give it up man it's a joke. Didn't see Daniel's review but sounds like he is backing up my data so even more proof. He's just downplaying issues like he always does. He'll he even said the predator had a good 510 and had to make an apology video for it.

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Not making accusations against you. Just stating my observation that you yourself have essentially accused every reviewer who had reviewed the RX300 before you did of being a shill. Give it up man you haven't got the brains to understand the definition of anecdotal evidence. The simple fact someone might be downplaying issues doesn't in any way, shape or form prove that you aren't blowing them out of proportion. Claims of "everyone who knows me knows I'm right" is your only proof? These mods may be cheap, but this attitude of yours is getting cheaper.

SirRichardRear · May 22, 2017

Carambrda said:
Not making accusations against you. Just stating my observation that you yourself have essentially accused every reviewer who had reviewed the RX300 before you did of being a shill. Give it up man you haven't got the brains to understand the definition of anecdotal evidence. The simple fact someone might be downplaying issues doesn't in any way, shape or form prove that you aren't blowing them out of proportion. Claims of "everyone who knows me knows I'm right" is your only proof? These mods may be cheap, but this attitude of yours is getting cheaper.

Lmao sayin didn't personally attack me then put words in my mouth and personally attack me. Classic

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inspects · May 22, 2017

Any mod Wismec made is garbage. Period.

Carambrda · May 22, 2017

inspects said:
Any mod Wismec made is garbage. Period.

To me, any mod that keeps me off of cigarettes isn't garbage. :finger:

fraleywp · May 22, 2017

Carambrda said:
Like I already tried to explain we don't even know if those numbers truly are representative to the way the power output's inconsistency between puffs affects the quality of the vape experience. Remember DJLsb said even though it is a bit of a shaky signal you don't feel that on the vape. How the shakiness has affected those numbers that you speak of has not been documented. The information is presented in such a way it is not falsifiable, and the presentation reveals several clues that indicate strong cognitive biases might be at play. There's also the possibility those numbers have been cherry-picked, or faked, or both. Your assertion that this is quite the stretch is yet another clear example of a personal testimony that is just one anecdote so there is a large chance that it may be unreliable.

What you citing by DJLsb is purely anecdotal. So you are using anecdotal evidence to dispute physical evidence.

All of your accusations are speculative at best. You should just give up as your hole is getting deeper.

Carambrda · May 22, 2017

fraleywp said:
What you citing by DJLsb is purely anecdotal. So you are using anecdotal evidence to dispute physical evidence.

All of your accusations are speculative at best. You should just give up as your hole is getting deeper.

Yes, what I'm citing about DJLsb is purely anecdotal. But it doesn't matter because so is this nonexistent "physical evidence" that you keep talking about, and the Wikipedia article very clearly backs that up so it's just one reviewer's personal testimony vs. another... that is, aside from badmouthing each and every reviewer who has given the RX300 a positive review... and there's more than just a few of those reviewers.

SirRichardRear · May 22, 2017

Carambrda said:
Yes, what I'm citing about DJLsb is purely anecdotal. But it doesn't matter because so is this nonexistent "physical evidence" that you keep talking about, and the Wikipedia article very clearly backs that up so it's just one reviewer's personal testimony vs. another... that is, aside from badmouthing each and every reviewer who has given the RX300 a positive review... and there's more than just a few of those reviewers.

All of which make their living doing this and benefit from positive reviews. They in a sense work for these companies. Same way if your boss wanted you to do something you would do it. I'm an independent 3rd party. Have you never heard of giant bomb?
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/116360-Jeff-Gerstmann-Explains-His-Departure-From-Gamespot

The issue, Gerstmann claimed in a streaming interview, was that a new management team inexperienced in dealing with editorial groups, had come to power at Gamespot and overreacted to what Gerstmann describes as "publisher push-back." According to his recollection, Eidos threatened to pull ad revenue from Gamespot as a result of his review, and though this kind of thing is relatively common in games journalism, the nascent management team panicked and decided that Gerstmann was unreliable. "They felt they couldn't trust me in the role," Gerstmann said.

"We did what an editorial team does. We did what we were supposed to be doing. We reviewed games, we instructed people about the quality of games, and we were completely honest," he added. "This management team buckled when faced with having a lot of ad dollars walk out the door."

In short, dude did an honest review like he was supposed to, that review was bad and the publisher who was advertising the game on the site wanted the review changed, he refused to change it and got fired. So if you think there isn't some "backroom" deals going on then you are extremely naive. Now I'm not claiming ALL reviewers do it, But I'm saying that I'm sure some are, so it comes down to who to trust, someone who benefits financially and makes their living doing it and needs these companies support to not lose their house, car, etc or an independent 3rd party who is just a vapor who purchased his own products. On top of that DJL never even used tobacco and is a medium to low watt vapor. Phil is a low watt MTL vapor. Very few reviewers use temp control. Phil and DJL aren't temp control vapors.

At the end of the day, your main issue is i gave a fair review which happened to be bad to a device you own, and it clearly upset you. So in reality you need to grown up and accept that. You aren't in a vape shop with a bunch of people who don't know anything. You are on a forum with a very large collective knowledge pool and some really smart people. They can see shills and they can see who is clearly giving good info and who doesn't. they can see who knows their shit and who doesn't. Hell even mikhail who gave me shit and is an electrical engineer who quit his job to make mods and who gave me shit over my fuchai 213 plus review, actually tested the mod himself and apologized to me for giving me shit as his results were very similar to mine. That's why i have credibility, because my main purpose is to inform people, not sell or fanboy stuff. and I do it with my own time and money on the side. You lack of experience with any non wismec chip makes you an extremely biased individual.

fraleywp · May 22, 2017

Carambrda said:
Yes, what I'm citing about DJLsb is purely anecdotal. But it doesn't matter because so is this nonexistent "physical evidence" that you keep talking about, and the Wikipedia article very clearly backs that up so it's just one reviewer's personal testimony vs. another... that is, aside from badmouthing each and every reviewer who has given the RX300 a positive review... and there's more than just a few of those reviewers.

Did you even watch the review? He clearly shows charts of MEASURED output at SPECIFIC ohm loads on each device. Couldn't be more cut and dry physical evidence. This is what I am referring to.

The statements he makes about wismec having shit 510s is anecdotal mostly, but partially based on what is seen in the test results. Does this prove that the poor performance in the tests was due to the 510? No, it could just be a shit board altogether.

How was that for anecdotal?

Carambrda · May 22, 2017

SirRichardRear said:
All of which make their living doing this and benefit from positive reviews. They in a sense work for these companies. Same way if your boss wanted you to do something you would do it. I'm an independent 3rd party. Have you never heard of giant bomb?
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/116360-Jeff-Gerstmann-Explains-His-Departure-From-Gamespot

In short, dude did an honest review like he was supposed to, that review was bad and the publisher who was advertising the game on the site wanted the review changed, he refused to change it and got fired. So if you think there isn't some "backroom" deals going on then you are extremely naive. Now I'm not claiming ALL reviewers do it, But I'm saying that I'm sure some are, so it comes down to who to trust, someone who benefits financially and makes their living doing it and needs these companies support to not lose their house, car, etc or an independent 3rd party who is just a vapor who purchased his own products. On top of that DJL never even used tobacco and is a medium to low watt vapor. Phil is a low watt MTL vapor. Very few reviewers use temp control. Phil and DJL aren't temp control vapors.

At the end of the day, your main issue is i gave a fair review which happened to be bad to a device you own, and it clearly upset you. So in reality you need to grown up and accept that. You aren't in a vape shop with a bunch of people who don't know anything. You are on a forum with a very large collective knowledge pool and some really smart people. They can see shills and they can see who is clearly giving good info and who doesn't. they can see who knows their shit and who doesn't. Hell even mikhail who gave me shit and is an electrical engineer who quit his job to make mods and who gave me shit over my fuchai 213 plus review, actually tested the mod himself and apologized to me for giving me shit as his results were very similar to mine. That's why i have credibility, because my main purpose is to inform people, not sell or fanboy stuff. and I do it with my own time and money on the side. You lack of experience with any non wismec chip makes you an extremely biased individual.

I get that you're an independent 3rd party, but I'm just a vaper like most people on here. Each time when I gather info on a vape product that somehow appeals to me I never put my trust in just a single reviewer before I decide on whether I'm going to buy it, and this is simply because I like to use common sense. So if there are more than half a dozen reviewers who have already reviewed the product in question and none of those reviews are bad, then if one guy not only gives it a bad review but also starts badmouthing those other reviewers by accusing them of being just a bunch of shills, I expect this one guy to come up with rock solid evidence to back up that accusation. This is because I'm not nearly naive enough to believe in conspiracy theories that are made up by just one guy, no matter how experienced or grown up this one guy thinks he is. This is why your credibility is absolute zero. Your personal attacks towards me aren't going to change this fact. The bottom line is I have zero use for temp control. I already tried to explain to you I use Arctic Fox custom curve preheat in VW mode. All my other mods, not counting the one that I started vaping on, are PWM or mech because they are what I like best. The good thing about frequenting vape shops is you gain access to mods owned by fellow customers so you get to actually vape on them rather than get shat on for knowing what mod is best for you to keep you off cigarettes, and for knowing it weeks before this one guy who thinks he's so cool on YouTube gets the chance to even put his hands on the mod. Talk about who needs to do the growing up.

Carambrda · May 22, 2017

fraleywp said:
Did you even watch the review? He clearly shows charts of MEASURED output at SPECIFIC ohm loads on each device. Couldn't be more cut and dry physical evidence. This is what I am referring to.

The statements he makes about wismec having shit 510s is anecdotal mostly, but partially based on what is seen in the test results. Does this prove that the poor performance in the tests was due to the 510? No, it could just be a shit board altogether.

How was that for anecdotal?

Try vaping in VW mode with your eyes closed instead of whilst looking at a screen filled with useless numbers. Maybe you'd actually start to enjoy vaping instead of shitting on a mod and shitting on people who vape on the mod.

fraleywp · May 22, 2017

Carambrda said:
Try vaping in VW mode with your eyes closed instead of whilst looking at a screen filled with useless numbers. Maybe you'd actually start to enjoy vaping instead of shitting on a mod and shitting on people who vape on the mod.

Bro, you are the only one shitting on anybody. You are basically calling everyone else either a liar or stupid. Get over it and move on. If you enjoy it, why worry about what anyone else thinks.

SirRichardRear · May 22, 2017

Carambrda said:
I get that you're an independent 3rd party, but I'm just a vaper like most people on here. Each time when I gather info on a vape product that somehow appeals to me I never put my trust in just a single reviewer before I decide on whether I'm going to buy it, and this is simply because I like to use common sense.

This is a rare case where i agree with you. I don't think any one person, myself included should be considered the only person to listen to. find a few good ones you can trust and go by all their stuff. sometimes reviewers miss things others find. we are all human.

Carambrda said:
So if there are more than half a dozen reviewers who have already reviewed the product in question and none of those reviews are bad, then if one guy not only gives it a bad review but also starts badmouthing those other reviewers by accusing them of being just a bunch of shills,

Just to be clear, I'm not bad mouthing any other reviewer. I am saying that yes some can be shills. I didn't mention any names at all nor is it relevant. (but we all remember the rip trippers dehydration thing don't we?) I also just stated a fact that many of them make a living off of doing reviews. which is true. none of them deny this either. It's not some sort of super secret. What i am saying is that like myself they are human and can make mistakes. we seen it with the predator. everyone of them recommended it. many defended the 510 pin. a few of them like Daniel who i really like made a video saying he made a mistake. It happens I'm not gonna shit on him for it by any means. Anyone who purchased a predator prior to that video would have said exactly what you said. And it's not limited to that one instance. No reviewers mentioned the smok alien paint or TC issues really either. Then we had one guy can't remember who posting a pic of his "captain 510 pin" being out and then he took out down and admitted to ripping it out. twsted420 made a video showing him popping out a predator 510 easily but he tried to get the captain to come out and it wouldn't and he was really yanking on it with pliers. So what i'm saying is that with all reviewers (myself included) best bet is to find a few you can trust and listen to them all and make your own choice. I have a few I watch and like personally.

Carambrda said:
I expect this one guy to come up with rock solid evidence to back up that accusation. This is because I'm not nearly naive enough to believe in conspiracy theories that are made up by just one guy, no matter how experienced or grown up this one guy thinks he is. This is why your credibility is absolute zero. Your personal attacks towards me aren't going to change this fact. The bottom line is I have zero use for temp control. I already tried to explain to you I use Arctic Fox custom curve preheat in VW mode. All my other mods, not counting the one that I started vaping on, are PWM or mech because they are what I like best. The good thing about frequenting vape shops is you gain access to mods owned by fellow customers so you get to actually vape on them rather than get shat on for knowing what mod is best for you to keep you off cigarettes, and for knowing it weeks before this one guy who thinks he's so cool on YouTube gets the chance to even put his hands on the mod. Talk about who needs to do the growing up.

I never said there was a conspiracy theory lol. I said business is business. I assume you are old enough to understand that. I can care less if you think my credibility is zero. then don't watch my reviews and go watch someone else. simple as that. I'm not going to be offended or butthurt. Not everyone wants brutal honesty. some people just want to hear they purchased something good cause it makes them feel all warm and fuzzy inside. if that's what you want, then you aren't my intended audience. no harm no foul and no hard feelings. go watch someone else.

nlt2836 · May 22, 2017

Carambrda said:
Like I already tried to explain we don't even know if those numbers truly are representative to the way the power output's inconsistency between puffs affects the quality of the vape experience. Remember DJLsb said even though it is a bit of a shaky signal you don't feel that on the vape. How the shakiness has affected those numbers that you speak of has not been documented. The information is presented in such a way it is not falsifiable, and the presentation reveals several clues that indicate strong cognitive biases might be at play. There's also the possibility those numbers have been cherry-picked, or faked, or both. Your assertion that this is quite the stretch is yet another clear example of a personal testimony that is just one anecdote so there is a large chance that it may be unreliable.

Wow, I'd say you've crossed the line by all out calling SRR a liar. Completely uncalled for.

Carambrda · May 23, 2017

nlt2836 said:
Wow, I'd say you've crossed the line by all out calling SRR a liar. Completely uncalled for.

He basically has accused the other reviewers of being shills for Wismec. So you are barking up the wrong tree here because thus far we haven't seen a single shred of reliable evidence to show his accusation was called for.

Carambrda · May 23, 2017

fraleywp said:
Bro, you are the only one shitting on anybody. You are basically calling everyone else either a liar or stupid. Get over it and move on. If you enjoy it, why worry about what anyone else thinks.

See my previous reply to this thread.

Carambrda · May 23, 2017

SirRichardRear said:
This is a rare case where i agree with you. I don't think any one person, myself included should be considered the only person to listen to. find a few good ones you can trust and go by all their stuff. sometimes reviewers miss things others find. we are all human.

Just to be clear, I'm not bad mouthing any other reviewer. I am saying that yes some can be shills. I didn't mention any names at all nor is it relevant. (but we all remember the rip trippers dehydration thing don't we?) I also just stated a fact that many of them make a living off of doing reviews. which is true. none of them deny this either. It's not some sort of super secret. What i am saying is that like myself they are human and can make mistakes. we seen it with the predator. everyone of them recommended it. many defended the 510 pin. a few of them like Daniel who i really like made a video saying he made a mistake. It happens I'm not gonna shit on him for it by any means. Anyone who purchased a predator prior to that video would have said exactly what you said. And it's not limited to that one instance. No reviewers mentioned the smok alien paint or TC issues really either. Then we had one guy can't remember who posting a pic of his "captain 510 pin" being out and then he took out down and admitted to ripping it out. twsted420 made a video showing him popping out a predator 510 easily but he tried to get the captain to come out and it wouldn't and he was really yanking on it with pliers. So what i'm saying is that with all reviewers (myself included) best bet is to find a few you can trust and listen to them all and make your own choice. I have a few I watch and like personally.

I never said there was a conspiracy theory lol. I said business is business. I assume you are old enough to understand that. I can care less if you think my credibility is zero. then don't watch my reviews and go watch someone else. simple as that. I'm not going to be offended or butthurt. Not everyone wants brutal honesty. some people just want to hear they purchased something good cause it makes them feel all warm and fuzzy inside. if that's what you want, then you aren't my intended audience. no harm no foul and no hard feelings. go watch someone else.

This is all complete BS. You implied that every reviewer who gave the RX300 a positive review either is wrong or must be a shill for Wismec so once again I'm forced to ask, where is your evidence?

Carambrda · May 23, 2017

The brutally honest question I ask is this. How does the simple fact there may be shills at work for Wismec help to disprove the opposing hypothesis that you, the OP are just being a shill for one or several competing brands?

SirRichardRear · May 23, 2017

Carambrda said:
He basically has accused the other reviewers of being shills for Wismec. So you are barking up the wrong tree here because thus far we haven't seen a single shred of reliable evidence to show his accusation was called for.

Basically? So I didn't but you put words in my mouth lol. You do know that companies (and not just vape companies) hire people to go around social media and talk up their brand right.

On top of that, YOU said DJL agreed with what i said (so you calling him a liar too lol) He just didn't feel it's a big deal. Maybe you should ask him why he doesn't feel that instead of harassing me on why I think it's a big deal. Since you don't want anecdotal evidence and all. You know all these people that complain about how their coils don't last, maybe it's because they have mods like this that are incosistent. I mean you wouldn't buy a car where the gas pedal is incosistent. even if someone says "it's not a big deal" when you have options to buy a car with a consistent gas pedal it just makes more sense.

Carambrda said:
This is all complete BS. You implied that every reviewer who gave the RX300 a positive review either is wrong or must be a shill for Wismec so once again I'm forced to ask, where is your evidence?

No I didn't I said people are human and make mistakes, just like we seen with the predator and the famous 510 that pops out. But since you also want to be so anecdotal how about you prove they aren't? See it's an impossible claim. You are asking for something that doesn't exist. I'm sorry if you don't have the knowledge or experience to see a poor design, but that's your issue not mine. Why are you so obsessed with trying to say I'm wrong here. Are you sure you aren't being paid by wismec LMAO because that's what it sounds like. How come you never complain about any other bad review I've given? Only this one in particular. Here i'll save you time and answer for you, because you purchased it and don't want to feel like you made a bad purchase. it's ok it happens to all of us. I made the same bad purchase, I can just admit it was a bad purchase and do my best to help others not waste money

Carambrda said:
The brutally honest question I ask is this. How does the simple fact there may be shills at work for Wismec help to disprove the opposing hypothesis that you, the OP are just being a shill for one or several competing brands?

Maybe because I've purchased everything myself, I don't work for any vaping company, and I don't make a single penny off of doing reviews? Maybe because all brands have gotten good and bad reviews from me? Maybe because i ripped smok for their crap temp control (but that didn't bother you huh) i've ripped some ijoy mods as well (including the one I'm putting out today), I don't play favorites, i test, record data and report data. what testing have you done, what other devices can you compare it to? the answer is none and none. You are just making yourself look stupid by fanboying a bad product. It's simple, grow up, don't watch my reviews and move on. You aren't my intended audience. You want a reviewer to validate your purchases and that isn't me

Carambrda · May 23, 2017

SirRichardRear said:
Basically? So I didn't but you put words in my mouth lol.

Basically = not your exact words, but still the same meaning.

You do know that companies (and not just vape companies) hire people to go around social media and talk up their brand right.

Yes... look up the definition of the word "shill". One way to talk up their brand is by badmouthing the competitor's brand (Wismec).

On top of that, YOU said DJL agreed with what i said (so you calling him a liar too lol)

Just because it appears like he agreed on one particular detail (depending on how you look at the context/presentation) doesn't in any way, shape or form prove you're not lying about anything, or that you're not severely biased.

He just didn't feel it's a big deal. Maybe you should ask him why he doesn't feel that instead of harassing me on why I think it's a big deal.

Maybe you should just learn to accept you're the only reviewer who thinks it's a VERY big deal, and who still has to figure out the difference between "I am the honest guy who am providing the information that is the only correct information" and "now I'm backpedaling by simply admitting I only THINK it's a big deal, but know this thought of mine might not be totally in line with that which defines correct information".

Since you don't want anecdotal evidence and all.

Wrong. As long as personal opinions based on anecdotal evidence aren't clearly repeatedly and consistently being touted as fact, you have really nothing to be ashamed of.

You know all these people that complain about how their coils don't last, maybe it's because they have mods like this that are incosistent. I mean you wouldn't buy a car where the gas pedal is incosistent. even if someone says "it's not a big deal" when you have options to buy a car with a consistent gas pedal it just makes more sense.

Whether or not it will make more sense to me will depend on how bad it is in conjunction with a whole bunch of other factors. If DJLsb says "once again you don't feel that on the vape", then I might agree with him because I myself don't feel that on the vape (and I bought my RX300 before he published his review).

No I didn't I said people are human and make mistakes, just like we seen with the predator and the famous 510 that pops out.

It shouldn't pop out, no argument against that. But if I was in the market for a dual battery regulated I might still have bought it because I know how to use super glue so at least for me it would have been just a quick easy fix.

But since you also want to be so anecdotal how about you prove they aren't? See it's an impossible claim. You are asking for something that doesn't exist. I'm sorry if you don't have the knowledge or experience to see a poor design, but that's your issue not mine.

You see, I do have the knowledge and experience to see a poor design. But I also have the knowledge and experience to decide for myself on whether a design factually is poor enough to be the dealbreaker you keep telling me it is, and, if you can't see that I do, then that's YOUR issue not mine.

Why are you so obsessed with trying to say I'm wrong here.

Because it isn't polite to shit on people for what mod they use. No, wait... you can still make jokes about it of course, so my final answer is I'm not the one who is being obsessed with trying to cover up certain types of information.

Are you sure you aren't being paid by wismec LMAO because that's what it sounds like.

Remember what I posted in another thread not too long ago about the 510 on the RX200, RX200S, and RX2/3. You know as well as I do that people who are getting paid by Wismec don't usually write that kind of stuff about the 510, so...

How come you never complain about any other bad review I've given? Only this one in particular.

It's because your review of the RX300 is the only one of your reviews I've tried watching of course. Me being on the lookout for information about a product I own is more or less common.

Here i'll save you time and answer for you, because you purchased it and don't want to feel like you made a bad purchase.

I never felt like my RX300 has been a bad purchase, and I still don't feel it. The RX300 is obviously not a perfect mod, but the GX350 has stability issues because occasionally it jumps to max power (or close to it) so the display on it still reads 75 watts, for example, yet screwing on an RTA to be able to quickly test the mod by simply dry firing confirms the power output is way more than a few times higher than 75 watts (coils lit up pretty instantly, which they don't do on any other mod at 75 watts... or even 150 watts). Talk about inconsistent power. Sheesh!
As for the Maxo 315, the gap on the sides above the battery door could potentially be dangerous if a foreign object accidentally slides through there, even though I consider this only a minor con because I take care to avoid foreign objects coming into contact with my mod anyway. Another minor con IMO, for me, about the Maxo is it takes a lot of time and effort to disassemble the mod without causing any damage to it in the process. But like I have explained several posts ago (with a picture so everyone can see what I mean), the shape of the body on the RX300 doesn't feel uncomfortable to me, in fact I even prefer it that way, and, like I also already said a few posts ago, I never use TC mode... Arctic Fox custom curve preheat in VW mode on my RX300 does pretty much everything I need. Well, almost... because it can't turn my RX300 into a PWM or mech, and I can't seem to teach it how to fetch my slippers.

it's ok it happens to all of us. I made the same bad purchase, I can just admit it was a bad purchase and do my best to help others not waste money

For me, wasting money would be to get a 4-battery regulated mod that doesn't allow custom curve preheat in VW mode where the dots that make up the custom curve are spaced only .1 second apart (or similar).

Maybe because I've purchased everything myself, I don't work for any vaping company, and I don't make a single penny off of doing reviews? Maybe because all brands have gotten good and bad reviews from me? Maybe because i ripped smok for their crap temp control (but that didn't bother you huh) i've ripped some ijoy mods as well (including the one I'm putting out today), I don't play favorites, i test, record data and report data. what testing have you done, what other devices can you compare it to? the answer is none and none. You are just making yourself look stupid by fanboying a bad product. It's simple, grow up, don't watch my reviews and move on. You aren't my intended audience. You want a reviewer to validate your purchases and that isn't me

Do you mean to tell me your intended audience are people who can't figure out why the .1 second intervals between the dots in the curve are more important to me than a bunch of test results that are not factually all that representative to the vape experience? Oh boy...

fraleywp · May 23, 2017

Wow, you are in serious need of therapy. Who exactly do you think you are? Sigmund Freud?

All of these things you are mentioning are a combination of conjecture, heresy and utter nonsense. You have not made a case for yourself in anyway. To suggest that using super glue to fix a brand new product is a valid response to that issue is ludicrous.

Clearly I was right earlier when I said you will find any way to make yourself feel right. This latest post is shameful at best.

SirRichardRear · May 23, 2017

Carambrda said:
Basically = not your exact words, but still the same meaning.

no it's not, that's putting words in my mouth.

Carambrda said:
Yes... look up the definition of the word "shill". One way to talk up their brand is by badmouthing the competitor's brand (Wismec).

I don't deny that companies likely do that, however it becomes very obvious. Clearly you are hinting at something so just go ahead and outright say it and make yourself look dumb please

Carambrda said:
Just because it appears like he agreed on one particular detail (depending on how you look at the context/presentation) doesn't in any way, shape or form prove you're not lying about anything, or that you're not severely biased.

If his results matched mine, then clearly I'm not lying, unless you are saying he is lying as well and both of us conspired together to form this lie? man you are really reaching here. As far as being biased, clearly anyone with half a brain can see that isn't the case. since I've purchased mods from every company out there. and they all get fair reviews. I shit on sig for the fuchai 213 plus, yet gave them good reviews for the kaos and snow wolf 365. I shit on smok for their temp control on the alien and their paint jobs on the alien, but gave a good review to the gx350 and g320. I shit on ijoy for the solo v2 mod, but praised their exo rta which is still my favorite to this day. All companies have good and bad stuff, that's why i review everything from an unbiased stand point. You are making accusations i'm somehow biased, but all my reviews show quite the opposite.

Carambrda said:
Maybe you should just learn to accept you're the only reviewer who thinks it's a VERY big deal, and who still has to figure out the difference between "I am the honest guy who am providing the information that is the only correct information" and "now I'm backpedaling by simply admitting I only THINK it's a big deal, but know this thought of mine might not be totally in line with that which defines correct information".

so now citing other reviewers is proof, that's the definition of anecdotal evidence. How many reviewers made a mistake on the predator? Now mind you it's not a knock on them, everyone makes mistakes, so how can you say they didn't make a mistake on the rx300? Remember when people thought the earth was flat? yeah people make mistakes for sure. Incosistent output is a big deal and i'm sure if you ask anyone here if they want a mod that is consistent or not consistent, they will choose the consisent one, except maybe you apparently?

Carambrda said:
Wrong. As long as personal opinions based on anecdotal evidence aren't clearly repeatedly and consistently being touted as fact, you have really nothing to be ashamed of.

Testing results are fact, period. It's incosistent that's a fact.
Poor 510 pin design, that's a fact that anyone with my experience can see easily.
Ugly? that's an opinion, i never said a mod being ugly is a fact
you can't even figure out the difference between a fact and an opinion. or anecdotal evidence compared to scientific evidence. all you've done is basically make yourself look like a joke in this thread. You do realize that nobody in this thread takes you seriously right?

Carambrda said:
Whether or not it will make more sense to me will depend on how bad it is in conjunction with a whole bunch of other factors. If DJLsb says "once again you don't feel that on the vape", then I might agree with him because I myself don't feel that on the vape (and I bought my RX300 before he published his review).

So he says it's incosistent but you probably won't notice it? that doesn't sound very scientific to me. That's like saying yeah your pet might pee somewhere in the house but it's not a big deal as you probably won't notice it. If you can't feel the difference, then it's your lack of experience. many experienced vapors here can feel the difference in weak hitting mods and incosistent hitting mods. People on these forums aren't the type of vapors that walk into a shop buy a kit and screw something in and press a button, They are enthusiast who go way deeper into the rabbit hole.

Carambrda said:
It shouldn't pop out, no argument against that. But if I was in the market for a dual battery regulated I might still have bought it because I know how to use super glue so at least for me it would have been just a quick easy fix.

LMAO now you are defending the predator 510, wow who sounds like the shill now. glue doesn't fix a poor connection, it'll keep it in place but it'll still perform like crap. Man i hope you never try to fix anyhting electrical in your house. yeah lets just superglue the ground in this panel and hope for the best LMAO

Carambrda said:
You see, I do have the knowledge and experience to see a poor design. But I also have the knowledge and experience to decide for myself on whether a design factually is poor enough to be the dealbreaker you keep telling me it is, and, if you can't see that I do, then that's YOUR issue not mine.

No you don't you already proved you don't in this thread. I don't have any issue. I didn't come into your thread and try telling you, that you are wrong. You came into my thread to try and defend a mod I deemed as poor (with testing to back it up)

Carambrda said:
Because it isn't polite to shit on people for what mod they use. No, wait... you can still make jokes about it of course, so my final answer is I'm not the one who is being obsessed with trying to cover up certain types of information.

I don't shit on people for their mod selection. I do reviews to help inform people to make good purchases. I never laughed at you for having an RX300 or made fun of you for it. I made a review on the mod, it sucked, i posted the review, you came into here to defend the honor of wismec like king arthur defending his castle.

Carambrda said:
Remember what I posted in another thread not too long ago about the 510 on the RX200, RX200S, and RX2/3. You know as well as I do that people who are getting paid by Wismec don't usually write that kind of stuff about the 510, so...
It's because your review of the RX300 is the only one of your reviews I've tried watching of course. Me being on the lookout for information about a product I own is more or less common.

no i don't remember, and why would I? but yes they do. they take an older product everyone knows is bad, and then try to say it's improved on the newer version so people believe it. it's actually a very common advertising tactic.

Carambrda said:
I never felt like my RX300 has been a bad purchase, and I still don't feel it. The RX300 is obviously not a perfect mod, but the GX350 has stability issues because occasionally it jumps to max power (or close to it) so the display on it still reads 75 watts, for example, yet screwing on an RTA to be able to quickly test the mod by simply dry firing confirms the power output is way more than a few times higher than 75 watts (coils lit up pretty instantly, which they don't do on any other mod at 75 watts... or even 150 watts). Talk about inconsistent power. Sheesh!
As for the Maxo 315, the gap on the sides above the battery door could potentially be dangerous if a foreign object accidentally slides through there, even though I consider this only a minor con because I take care to avoid foreign objects coming into contact with my mod anyway. Another minor con IMO, for me, about the Maxo is it takes a lot of time and effort to disassemble the mod without causing any damage to it in the process. But like I have explained several posts ago (with a picture so everyone can see what I mean), the shape of the body on the RX300 doesn't feel uncomfortable to me, in fact I even prefer it that way, and, like I also already said a few posts ago, I never use TC mode... Arctic Fox custom curve preheat in VW mode on my RX300 does pretty much everything I need. Well, almost... because it can't turn my RX300 into a PWM or mech, and I can't seem to teach it how to fetch my slippers.

GX350 does none of that, now look who is doing everything he accused me of LMAO using an anecdotal i seen this with no testing equipment LMAO

Carambrda said:
For me, wasting money would be to get a 4-battery regulated mod that doesn't allow custom curve preheat in VW mode where the dots that make up the custom curve are spaced only .1 second apart (or similar).

Which wismec doesn't without the use of 3rd party firmware. that's like me saying it's a waste to but a car with less then 200HP even though I did but then slapped in a turbo and cold air intake and now it does. the custom curve is useless because the mod is incosistent and does what it wants anyway.

Carambrda said:
Do you mean to tell me your intended audience are people who can't figure out why the .1 second intervals between the dots in the curve are more important to me than a bunch of test results that are not factually all that representative to the vape experience? Oh boy...

My audience is people who are already very knowledgeable and want fair unbiased reviews with information backed up by testing so they don't waste their money. My audience would be able to feel the difference in the rx300 output easily.

derrickfosgate · May 23, 2017

WISMEC SUCKS LONG SHLONG

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derrickfosgate · May 23, 2017

Now i got ur attention whats better maxo or captain

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SirRichardRear · May 23, 2017

derrickfosgate said:
Now i got ur attention whats better maxo or captain

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2 different mods completely lol. captain isn't out yet so can't judge. maxo was solid especially for the price but the snow wolf 365 and smok gx350 are better then it

derrickfosgate · May 23, 2017

Had the original snow wolf hated it and why are they 2 diff mods other then batteries

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SirRichardRear · May 23, 2017

derrickfosgate said:
Had the original snow wolf hated it and why are they 2 diff mods other then batteries

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that's the main reason. one is a huge quad batteyr mod, the other is a more portable dual battery mod. As soon as i have a captain and test it i'll let you know

I did just review an ijoy dual battery mod today though

Carambrda · May 24, 2017

SirRichardRear said:
no it's not, that's putting words in my mouth.

Still boils down to the exact same thing, no matter how you want to put it.

I don't deny that companies likely do that, however it becomes very obvious. Clearly you are hinting at something so just go ahead and outright say it and make yourself look dumb please

I'm hinting at the obvious fact your hinting at what other reviewers may or may not be hinting at isn't going to make you look smarter.

If his results matched mine, then clearly I'm not lying, unless you are saying he is lying as well and both of us conspired together to form this lie? man you are really reaching here.

Going by that which has been presented in the videos, his results/conclusions didn't match yours. Overshoot isn't necessarily always problematic, in the sense that you can simply dial the wattage down accordingly to compensate for that if you, like me, are using VW mode. Because I'm using VW mode I can just set the wattage to whatever pans out will give me the best vape experience according to me, anyway, so it doesn't really matter to me that the mod overshoots. TC mode is a different story, but again I don't use TC mode.

As far as being biased, clearly anyone with half a brain can see that isn't the case. since I've purchased mods from every company out there. and they all get fair reviews. I shit on sig for the fuchai 213 plus, yet gave them good reviews for the kaos and snow wolf 365. I shit on smok for their temp control on the alien and their paint jobs on the alien, but gave a good review to the gx350 and g320. I shit on ijoy for the solo v2 mod, but praised their exo rta which is still my favorite to this day. All companies have good and bad stuff, that's why i review everything from an unbiased stand point. You are making accusations i'm somehow biased, but all my reviews show quite the opposite.

I don't have half a brain... I have a whole brain so I can't see that isn't the case.

so now citing other reviewers is proof, that's the definition of anecdotal evidence. How many reviewers made a mistake on the predator? Now mind you it's not a knock on them, everyone makes mistakes, so how can you say they didn't make a mistake on the rx300? Remember when people thought the earth was flat? yeah people make mistakes for sure. Incosistent output is a big deal and i'm sure if you ask anyone here if they want a mod that is consistent or not consistent, they will choose the consisent one, except maybe you apparently?

The difference between you and the other reviewers is they don't usually keep touting their opinions as fact. They don't patronize anyone for pointing out it's still possible to dial the wattage up or down in VW mode until the vape experience matches one's own personal preference so, again... the overshoot doesn't actually matter in VW mode.

Testing results are fact, period. It's incosistent that's a fact

The fact is it simply doesn't matter in VW mode. In addition, the bit of shakiness of the signal is not felt on the vape.

Poor 510 pin design, that's a fact that anyone with my experience can see easily.

Again, not poor enough for it to be a dealbreaker to me considering the other factors. Further, the fact you are experienced at being pedantic is still irrelevant to me because what matters to me in the end is how well it can satisfy my need to vape.

Ugly? that's an opinion, i never said a mod being ugly is a fact
you can't even figure out the difference between a fact and an opinion. or anecdotal evidence compared to scientific evidence.

The only fact here is you couldn't produce an ounce of science. Science isn't about black or white─ it's about reducing that which is unknown or not yet fully understood, and to get a handle on whether our interpretations are still correct.

all you've done is basically make yourself look like a joke in this thread. You do realize that nobody in this thread takes you seriously right?

That's just because everyone with a whole brain instead of a half one except me has already left before the thread even got started.

So he says it's incosistent but you probably won't notice it? that doesn't sound very scientific to me.

He says the shakiness of the signal isn't felt on the vape, and I agree with him on that. There is also no noticeable (to me) inconsistency between puffs, not even when I chain vape.

That's like saying yeah your pet might pee somewhere in the house but it's not a big deal as you probably won't notice it. If you can't feel the difference, then it's your lack of experience. many experienced vapors here can feel the difference in weak hitting mods and incosistent hitting mods.

No, that's like saying poorer numbers on a screen don't matter to me as long as they don't hurt my vape experience in any way that can be noticed by me. How hard it hits is part dependent of ramp up, which explains why, for me, Arctic Fox custom curve preheat in VW mode on my RX300 vapes better than the other three mods you tested, but... once again... I don't use TC mode so I'm not talking about how the RX300 performs in TC mode.

People on these forums aren't the type of vapors that walk into a shop buy a kit and screw something in and press a button, They are enthusiast who go way deeper into the rabbit hole.

I am those people. I vastly prefer my PWM and mech mods due to how they vape compared to any cheap regulated mod I've tried, and have gone down the mech rabbit hole a lot lately, but that doesn't stop me from vaping on my RX300 whenever I feel like vaping on my RX300.

LMAO now you are defending the predator 510, wow who sounds like the shill now. glue doesn't fix a poor connection, it'll keep it in place but it'll still perform like crap. Man i hope you never try to fix anyhting electrical in your house. yeah lets just superglue the ground in this panel and hope for the best LMAO

I'm not in the market for a dual battery regulated mod, and it doesn't look like I will be anytime soon. I'm also not defending the 510 of the Predator, even though I do know how to glue the screw threads back in without losing/deteriorating the contact between the screw threads and the body, but what I'm saying is the capability to install and run Arctic Fox on the Predator is why I would still prefer to use the Predator over something like, for example, the Battlestar.

No you don't you already proved you don't in this thread. I don't have any issue. I didn't come into your thread and try telling you, that you are wrong. You came into my thread to try and defend a mod I deemed as poor (with testing to back it up)

Your tests don't back up anything about whether or not the mod is poor. That's because these test results are just numbers, not representative to how, compared to the other mods you tested, the RX300 vapes with Arctic Fox custom curve preheat in VW mode so your conclusion is still nothing more than a single little─and belittling─opinion vs. so many others.

I don't shit on people for their mod selection. I do reviews to help inform people to make good purchases. I never laughed at you for having an RX300 or made fun of you for it. I made a review on the mod, it sucked, i posted the review, you came into here to defend the honor of wismec like king arthur defending his castle.

Except you're not really helping anyone by shitting on people who disagree with your review that sucked. Instead, you just continue to force your own opinion on others, repeatedly telling those who disagree with your "facts" to move on, still trying to sidestep the problem with your conspiracy theory using strong verbiage like "fanboy" and "getting paid by Wismec" (strong words which I personally don't mind... but still forcing your own opinion on others nonetheless, which highlights that your online persona is abrasive).

no i don't remember, and why would I? but yes they do. they take an older product everyone knows is bad, and then try to say it's improved on the newer version so people believe it. it's actually a very common advertising tactic.

Of course you don't remember. You have the memory of a goldfish.

GX350 does none of that, now look who is doing everything he accused me of LMAO using an anecdotal i seen this with no testing equipment LMAO

Of course you haven't seen this with your testing equipment. Your testing equipment hasn't seen customers walk into a vape shop holding a broken mod in their hands. (I know it happens a lot with the RX200 / RX200S / RX2/3, mostly due to their 510... but if a GX350 jumps to max power, then depending on what your coil build is like, it could be dangerous.)

Which wismec doesn't without the use of 3rd party firmware. that's like me saying it's a waste to but a car with less then 200HP even though I did but then slapped in a turbo and cold air intake and now it does. the custom curve is useless because the mod is incosistent and does what it wants anyway

Arctic Fox is great, and on top of that it's free. The custom curve preheat in VW mode is very far from useless except of course if you don't use VW mode, but if you do it's great.

My audience is people who are already very knowledgeable and want fair unbiased reviews with information backed up by testing so they don't waste their money.

That's only your opinion.

My audience would be able to feel the difference in the rx300 output easily.

I didn't say the difference in the output cannot be felt. In VW mode the output can be easily user adjusted so this doesn't matter to me because Arctic Fox custom curve preheat in VW mode on my RX300 still wins when compared to the other three 4-battery mods in your video.

BaronVonEyePoke · May 24, 2017

.....wow....I can't believe I got sucked into this twilight zone style thread, I just spent the better part of an hour reading all this lol. I am glad we can all agree that the 510 in the 2/3 sucks. I have made the mistake of buying one of these without checking out the reviews. Half my RTAs won't even work on it. I just always get the no atomizer or atomizer short reading. The first few times it drove me crazy trying to figure out what was wrong with my builds lol. And I just wanted to say that I think you give great reviews Anthony, I saw a few of them on here and now I watch your reviews on YouTube if I am thinking of making a purchase on a mod that you have reviewed. It has been my experience that u have been fair and accurate in your reviews and it's nice to see somebody that does reviews because they love vaping and not for a financial gain. Keep up the great work and remember that for every 1 person that complains about your reviews there are a hundred more like me that appreciate them...we are just not as vocal lol.

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Carambrda · May 24, 2017

BaronVonEyePoke said:
.....wow....I can't believe I got sucked into this twilight zone style thread, I just spent the better part of an hour reading all this lol. I am glad we can all agree that the 510 in the 2/3 sucks. I have made the mistake of buying one of these without checking out the reviews. Half my RTAs won't even work on it. I just always get the no atomizer or atomizer short reading. The first few times it drove me crazy trying to figure out what was wrong with my builds lol. And I just wanted to say that I think you give great reviews Anthony, I saw a few of them on here and now I watch your reviews on YouTube if I am thinking of making a purchase on a mod that you have reviewed. It has been my experience that u have been fair and accurate in your reviews and it's nice to see somebody that does reviews because they love vaping and not for a financial gain. Keep up the great work and remember that for every 1 person that complains about your reviews there are a hundred more like me that appreciate them...we are just not as vocal lol.

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The bad news is you'd have to use a dremel to replace the 510 with a Fat Daddy. The good news is there's a video on YouTube showing everyone with a quarter of a brain can still do it.

SirRichardRear · May 24, 2017

Carambrda said:
Still boils down to the exact same thing, no matter how you want to put it.

I'm hinting at the obvious fact your hinting at what other reviewers may or may not be hinting at isn't going to make you look smarter.

Going by that which has been presented in the videos, his results/conclusions didn't match yours. Overshoot isn't necessarily always problematic, in the sense that you can simply dial the wattage down accordingly to compensate for that if you, like me, are using VW mode. Because I'm using VW mode I can just set the wattage to whatever pans out will give me the best vape experience according to me, anyway, so it doesn't really matter to me that the mod overshoots. TC mode is a different story, but again I don't use TC mode.

I don't have half a brain... I have a whole brain so I can't see that isn't the case.

The difference between you and the other reviewers is they don't usually keep touting their opinions as fact. They don't patronize anyone for pointing out it's still possible to dial the wattage up or down in VW mode until the vape experience matches one's own personal preference so, again... the overshoot doesn't actually matter in VW mode.

The fact is it simply doesn't matter in VW mode. In addition, the bit of shakiness of the signal is not felt on the vape.

Again, not poor enough for it to be a dealbreaker to me considering the other factors. Further, the fact you are experienced at being pedantic is still irrelevant to me because what matters to me in the end is how well it can satisfy my need to vape.

The only fact here is you couldn't produce an ounce of science. Science isn't about black or white─ it's about reducing that which is unknown or not yet fully understood, and to get a handle on whether our interpretations are still correct.

That's just because everyone with a whole brain instead of a half one except me has already left before the thread even got started.

He says the shakiness of the signal isn't felt on the vape, and I agree with him on that. There is also no noticeable (to me) inconsistency between puffs, not even when I chain vape.

No, that's like saying poorer numbers on a screen don't matter to me as long as they don't hurt my vape experience in any way that can be noticed by me. How hard it hits is part dependent of ramp up, which explains why, for me, Arctic Fox custom curve preheat in VW mode on my RX300 vapes better than the other three mods you tested, but... once again... I don't use TC mode so I'm not talking about how the RX300 performs in TC mode.

I am those people. I vastly prefer my PWM and mech mods due to how they vape compared to any cheap regulated mod I've tried, and have gone down the mech rabbit hole a lot lately, but that doesn't stop me from vaping on my RX300 whenever I feel like vaping on my RX300.

I'm not in the market for a dual battery regulated mod, and it doesn't look like I will be anytime soon. I'm also not defending the 510 of the Predator, even though I do know how to glue the screw threads back in without losing/deteriorating the contact between the screw threads and the body, but what I'm saying is the capability to install and run Arctic Fox on the Predator is why I would still prefer to use the Predator over something like, for example, the Battlestar.

Your tests don't back up anything about whether or not the mod is poor. That's because these test results are just numbers, not representative to how, compared to the other mods you tested, the RX300 vapes with Arctic Fox custom curve preheat in VW mode so your conclusion is still nothing more than a single little─and belittling─opinion vs. so many others.
Except you're not really helping anyone by shitting on people who disagree with your review that sucked. Instead, you just continue to force your own opinion on others, repeatedly telling those who disagree with your "facts" to move on, still trying to sidestep the problem with your conspiracy theory using strong verbiage like "fanboy" and "getting paid by Wismec" (strong words which I personally don't mind... but still forcing your own opinion on others nonetheless, which highlights that your online persona is abrasive).
Of course you don't remember. You have the memory of a goldfish.

Of course you haven't seen this with your testing equipment. Your testing equipment hasn't seen customers walk into a vape shop holding a broken mod in their hands. (I know it happens a lot with the RX200 / RX200S / RX2/3, mostly due to their 510... but if a GX350 jumps to max power, then depending on what your coil build is like, it could be dangerous.)

Arctic Fox is great, and on top of that it's free. The custom curve preheat in VW mode is very far from useless except of course if you don't use VW mode, but if you do it's great.

That's only your opinion.

I didn't say the difference in the output cannot be felt. In VW mode the output can be easily user adjusted so this doesn't matter to me because Arctic Fox custom curve preheat in VW mode on my RX300 still wins when compared to the other three 4-battery mods in your video.

There is no point in me making a well thought out post since you never reply to it. So i'm gonna keep it short and sweet. 1st off you don't review aftermarket firmware on a device. Same way someone reviewing a mac wouldn't do it with windows installed or someone reviewing a cell phone wouldn't do it jailbroken or rooted. SO AF is irrelevant. I did a separate review on AF and it's awesome, but firmware doesn't fix hardware. a .1 second increments of watt adjustment is useless when a mods in inaccurate and inconsistent and nothing on the firmware side can fix that.

You also sound like a shill saying people can just easily fix and improve on the mods. these are consumer devices. You wouldn't buy a crappy TV because you can replace the panel with a nicer one to make it decent. The fact you are saying to just glue in the predator 510, replace the rx200 510, is just a joke. IDK why you are so obsessed with wismec. If you think it's the best go buy a GX350, go buy a snow wolf 365, go buy a maxo 315, then start a channel, make a comparison video and make your own thread. nobody is stopping you from doing that

SirRichardRear · May 24, 2017

BaronVonEyePoke said:
.....wow....I can't believe I got sucked into this twilight zone style thread, I just spent the better part of an hour reading all this lol. I am glad we can all agree that the 510 in the 2/3 sucks. I have made the mistake of buying one of these without checking out the reviews. Half my RTAs won't even work on it. I just always get the no atomizer or atomizer short reading. The first few times it drove me crazy trying to figure out what was wrong with my builds lol. And I just wanted to say that I think you give great reviews Anthony, I saw a few of them on here and now I watch your reviews on YouTube if I am thinking of making a purchase on a mod that you have reviewed. It has been my experience that u have been fair and accurate in your reviews and it's nice to see somebody that does reviews because they love vaping and not for a financial gain. Keep up the great work and remember that for every 1 person that complains about your reviews there are a hundred more like me that appreciate them...we are just not as vocal lol.

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LMAO thanks! Trolls are always to be expected and that's fine. No skin off my back

BaronVonEyePoke · May 24, 2017

Carambrda said:
The bad news is you'd have to use a dremel to replace the 510 with a Fat Daddy. The good news is there's a video on YouTube showing everyone with a quarter of a brain can still do it.

Yea I might check that out one of these days, for now I just run my tfv8 on it because that one works on it. But my aromamizer plus, big baby,griffin 25 mini, tfv4, and Gemini tank are all a no go on it. I actually broke the pin in herakles 2 rta because I thought it was the tank instead of the mod and tried to tighten it down. I was in my truck at the time and all I had was a big ass flat head screw driver so I used that...too much torque on it...really sucked because I LOVED that tank. Easy to build on and had awesome flavor....sigh....

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Carambrda · May 24, 2017

BaronVonEyePoke said:
Yea I might check that out one of these days, for now I just run my tfv8 on it because that one works on it. But my aromamizer plus, big baby,griffin 25 mini, tfv4, and Gemini tank are all a no go on it. I actually broke the pin in herakles 2 rta because I thought it was the tank instead of the mod and tried to tighten it down. I was in my truck at the time and all I had was a big ass flat head screw driver so I used that...too much torque on it...really sucked because I LOVED that tank. Easy to build on and had awesome flavor....sigh....

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If the 510 pin of the RX2/3 has been pushed too far down (due to having screwed on an atomizer that has long 510 screw threads / a hybrid compatible 510), it is possible that the 510 pin is now stuck down there. If you gently press on the pin with a small phillips screwdriver you should be able to see the pin move down a little, and if you release the pressure it should move back up again. If it is stuck due to having been soaked with e-juice you can apply one very small droplet of vodka to the pin as that should help to loosen the dried up juice. You can gently try to wiggle the pin back up with pointy tweezers if it's stuck.

nlt2836 · May 24, 2017

BaronVonEyePoke said:
.....wow....I can't believe I got sucked into this twilight zone style thread, I just spent the better part of an hour reading all this lol. I am glad we can all agree that the 510 in the 2/3 sucks. I have made the mistake of buying one of these without checking out the reviews. Half my RTAs won't even work on it. I just always get the no atomizer or atomizer short reading. The first few times it drove me crazy trying to figure out what was wrong with my builds lol. And I just wanted to say that I think you give great reviews Anthony, I saw a few of them on here and now I watch your reviews on YouTube if I am thinking of making a purchase on a mod that you have reviewed. It has been my experience that u have been fair and accurate in your reviews and it's nice to see somebody that does reviews because they love vaping and not for a financial gain. Keep up the great work and remember that for every 1 person that complains about your reviews there are a hundred more like me that appreciate them...we are just not as vocal lol.

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^^^^^^^this.

Lol. I have personally come to trust your reviews and appreciate what you do. You've even taken the time to speak with me in pm's when I've had questions. Maybe you can just choose not to respond to any more of his nonsense because it's just getting worse. Bottom line keep doing what you're doing there are quite a few of us who really appreciate it.

BaronVonEyePoke · May 24, 2017

Carambrda said:
If the 510 pin of the RX2/3 has been pushed too far down (due to having screwed on an atomizer that has long 510 screw threads / a hybrid compatible 510), it is possible that the 510 pin is now stuck down there. If you gently press on the pin with a small phillips screwdriver you should be able to see the pin move down a little, and if you release the pressure it should move back up again. If it is stuck due to having been soaked with e-juice you can apply one very small droplet of vodka to the pin as that should help to loosen the dried up juice. You can gently try to wiggle the pin back up with pointy tweezers if it's stuck.

Right on man, thanks for the advice. I can see it move up and down a bit when I push on it. I will have to try the vodka and see if it helps, I try to he careful with my mods and not get juice down in the pin but nobody is perfect lol. I had a bad experience with a lasimo 200w box that bricked on me and the only thing I could think of happening was maybe getting juice into it so I try and be super careful with my mods now.

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SirRichardRear · May 24, 2017

nlt2836 said:
^^^^^^^this.

Lol. I have personally come to trust your reviews and appreciate what you do. You've even taken the time to speak with me in pm's when I've had questions. Maybe you can just choose not to respond to any more of his nonsense because it's just getting worse. Bottom line keep doing what you're doing there are quite a few of us who really appreciate it.

Thanks!

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SirRichardRear · May 24, 2017

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fraleywp · May 25, 2017

nlt2836 said:
^^^^^^^this.

Lol. I have personally come to trust your reviews and appreciate what you do. You've even taken the time to speak with me in pm's when I've had questions. Maybe you can just choose not to respond to any more of his nonsense because it's just getting worse. Bottom line keep doing what you're doing there are quite a few of us who really appreciate it.

Amen!

Carambrda · May 25, 2017

SirRichardRear said:
There is no point in me making a well thought out post since you never reply to it. So i'm gonna keep it short and sweet. 1st off you don't review aftermarket firmware on a device. Same way someone reviewing a mac wouldn't do it with windows installed or someone reviewing a cell phone wouldn't do it jailbroken or rooted. SO AF is irrelevant. I did a separate review on AF and it's awesome, but firmware doesn't fix hardware. a .1 second increments of watt adjustment is useless when a mods in inaccurate and inconsistent and nothing on the firmware side can fix that.

You also sound like a shill saying people can just easily fix and improve on the mods. these are consumer devices. You wouldn't buy a crappy TV because you can replace the panel with a nicer one to make it decent. The fact you are saying to just glue in the predator 510, replace the rx200 510, is just a joke. IDK why you are so obsessed with wismec. If you think it's the best go buy a GX350, go buy a snow wolf 365, go buy a maxo 315, then start a channel, make a comparison video and make your own thread. nobody is stopping you from doing that

Like I already said there is no serious inconsistency between puffs that I could notice. The only real inconsistency/inaccuracy is that the mod doesn't actually output the wattage that you set it to, so typically it has overshoot (assuming batteries fully charged). But if all you do is use VW mode, you can compensate for this overshoot by simply dialing the wattage down. A simple solution that works (for me) is to not immediately take the wattage too far up. Take it up gradually and slowly instead, until the vape is just right for you. It takes a little bit of extra time and patience to experiment. But good things come to those who wait. And the same applies to comparing Arctic Fox custom curve preheat in VW mode on the RX300, and comparing it to other 4-battery mods that are NOT COMPATIBLE with Arctic Fox so if you buy one of those instead of the RX300 you will be stuck with having to choose between no preheat or a louzy preheat that's so louzy in fact it just wrecks the flavor. I couldn't give two hoots about Apple computers and naggers who nag about the fact that Arctic Fox is aftermarket. I'm a vaper who vapes. I'm NOT a sorry excuse for a reviewer who nags.

Carambrda · May 25, 2017

KingPin! · May 25, 2017

gakudzu said:
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Don't say I didn't warn everyone on page 1 ...feed that particular troll and you have endless pages of never ending battle on your hands

SirRichardRear · May 25, 2017

Carambrda said:
Like I already said there is no serious inconsistency between puffs that I could notice. The only real inconsistency/inaccuracy is that the mod doesn't actually output the wattage that you set it to, so typically it has overshoot (assuming batteries fully charged). But if all you do is use VW mode, you can compensate for this overshoot by simply dialing the wattage down. A simple solution that works (for me) is to not immediately take the wattage too far up. Take it up gradually and slowly instead, until the vape is just right for you. It takes a little bit of extra time and patience to experiment. But good things come to those who wait. And the same applies to comparing Arctic Fox custom curve preheat in VW mode on the RX300, and comparing it to other 4-battery mods that are NOT COMPATIBLE with Arctic Fox so if you buy one of those instead of the RX300 you will be stuck with having to choose between no preheat or a louzy preheat that's so louzy in fact it just wrecks the flavor. I couldn't give two hoots about Apple computers and naggers who nag about the fact that Arctic Fox is aftermarket. I'm a vaper who vapes. I'm NOT a sorry excuse for a reviewer who nags.

Maybe YOU don't feel it, but then again you've only been vaping for a few months. You only own 2 regulated devices both from wismec. I've been vaping for 5 years, I'm sure most people here have been vaping a long time some probably even longer then me. I've had over 1000 devices in my life, still currently own over 60 and some from all the major manufacturers. You keep touting AF but firmware doesn't fix hardware. You can't take an old 1995 packard bell PC with windows 95 on it, install windows 10 and expect it to be as good as a newer computer because it has the same OS. Putting arctic fox on the RX300 is like putting nice rims on a 1969 pinto. Sure the rims look nice, but the car will still be a piece of junk.

Carambrda · May 25, 2017

SirRichardRear said:
Maybe YOU don't feel it, but then again you've only been vaping for a few months. You only own 2 regulated devices both from wismec. I've been vaping for 5 years, I'm sure most people here have been vaping a long time some probably even longer then me. I've had over 1000 devices in my life, still currently own over 60 and some from all the major manufacturers. You keep touting AF but firmware doesn't fix hardware. You can't take an old 1995 packard bell PC with windows 95 on it, install windows 10 and expect it to be as good as a newer computer because it has the same OS. Putting arctic fox on the RX300 is like putting nice rims on a 1969 pinto. Sure the rims look nice, but the car will still be a piece of junk.

How long a person has been vaping is irrelevant, as is the number of regulated devices that a person owns. You keep talking about broken hardware, but a simple inconvenience (the overshoot) doesn't make it broken because even though DJLsb Vapes video review of the RX300 shows measurement graphs to indicate the signal is wavy, he concludes you don't feel that on the vape. These same measurement graphs also show in VW mode the RX300 power output has no other inaccuracies─other than the fact it is a little bit wavy, and in fact he even repeated that you don't feel it on the vape. He didn't say the power output changes from puff to puff or anything like that, so what other inconsistencies would you have in mind? So as far as performance in VW mode goes, it's STILL just his words against yours. You may feel he made a mistake, and you may even feel that you are more experienced than him. But the bottom line is your feelings of frustration and colorful exclamations aren't going to change one of the things that a lot of vapers ALSO find important─which is how it vapes.

lordmage · May 25, 2017

while skipping most of the he said he said i would like to add the following

what most i did read was person A paraphrased person B and person B got upset... my suggestion for person B is to move on and dont get defensive over comments made by person A because that makes his comments about your comments seem more accurate rather than a simple comment for comments sake. now if Person A does not like your style so be it. if Person B wants to improve than remember it is your view and simple that unless it was a peer reviewed double blind test there is only hearsay and personal views

SirRichardRear · May 25, 2017

Carambrda said:
How long a person has been vaping is irrelevant, as is the number of regulated devices that a person owns.

This is exactly relevant for this situation. If you were having open heart surgery would you want a doctor with 20 years experience who has doen the surgery successful over 100 times or a med student who watched it once to do it?

Carambrda said:
You keep talking about broken hardware, but a simple inconvenience (the overshoot)

You don't listen well because you are being irrational and emotional, it's not the overshoot that bothers me. it's the inconsistency. If it overshot the same every time it wouldn't be that bad

Carambrda said:
doesn't make it broken because even though DJLsb Vapes video review of the RX300 shows measurement graphs to indicate the signal is wavy, he concludes you don't feel that on the vape. These same measurement graphs also show in VW mode the RX300 power output has no other inaccuracies─other than the fact it is a little bit wavy, and in fact he even repeated that you don't feel it on the vape. He didn't say the power output changes from puff to puff or anything like that, so what other inconsistencies would you have in mind? So as far as performance in VW mode goes, it's STILL just his words against yours.

He also said the predator had a great 510 pin and then had to apologize about it. He's human we all make mistakes. I'm not battling DJL for anything, it's not his word against mine. we are 2 people who did reviews and gave opinions, that simple. it's not a contest The fact you can't understand differing opinions without making it a contest is funny. On top of that he still said it's incosistent so the factual part still stands. It's just a matter of whether or not you see it as a big deal

Carambrda said:
You may feel he made a mistake, and you may even feel that you are more experienced than him. But the bottom line is your feelings of frustration and colorful exclamations aren't going to change one of the things that a lot of vapers ALSO find important─which is how it vapes.

I'm not saying that. I like Daniel, I'm a fan of his I just don't think his word should be taken as the end all be all. Even he says so himself. Same with me, I don't think my word should be the only one. I'm not frustrated by any means I'm actually getting a kick out of you. The lengths you are going through to defend the honor of a 40 dollar electronic device is quite amusing.

Carambrda · May 25, 2017

SirRichardRear said:
This is exactly relevant for this situation. If you were having open heart surgery would you want a doctor with 20 years experience who has doen the surgery successful over 100 times or a med student who watched it once to do it?

That depends on how one wants to define the word "successful". During those 20 years of experience, if this surgeon in question has done the surgery 1,000 times and only 100 out of 1,000 were successful, probably I'd want the student.

You don't listen well because you are being irrational and emotional, it's not the overshoot that bothers me. it's the inconsistency. If it overshot the same every time it wouldn't be that bad

The graphs in your videos only show the inconsistency is only dependent of coil resistance. I repeat, the power output does not vary from puff to puff in any way that I am able to notice by vaping─again, if we can assume the batteries are not running low─so even though I understand it bothers you, the fact it bothers you is simply because you're the one being emotional about it. People can still easily verify that it's possible to just dial the wattage down accordingly so I'm not irrational when I say it's not that big of a deal to every vaper on planet Earth. This isn't about your style. This is about your touting your opinion as fact. The resistance of my coil build varies by only .004 - .005 ohms (due to temperature changes) so as Iong as I don't change my coil build the overshoot remains almost perfectly the same on every puff.

He also said the predator had a great 510 pin and then had to apologize about it. He's human we all make mistakes. I'm not battling DJL for anything, it's not his word against mine. we are 2 people who did reviews and gave opinions, that simple. it's not a contest The fact you can't understand differing opinions without making it a contest is funny. On top of that he still said it's incosistent so the factual part still stands. It's just a matter of whether or not you see it as a big deal

This is called backpedaling. A moment ago you were claiming "facts", not just differing opinions so again, this is not about your style. Further, I never said the wattage that you set the RX300 to is consistent with the wattage that it outputs to your atomizer. It's not─because there is considerable overshoot depending on atomizer/coil resistance─and, why you think I am making this a contest is beyond me.

I'm not saying that. I like Daniel, I'm a fan of his I just don't think his word should be taken as the end all be all. Even he says so himself. Same with me, I don't think my word should be the only one. I'm not frustrated by any means I'm actually getting a kick out of you. The lengths you are going through to defend the honor of a 40 dollar electronic device is quite amusing.

Personally, I, don't care if it's a $40 electronic device or a $4 one. Maybe you should pay Daniel some money to convince him to join you in a new video to inform everyone of how terribad Wismec factually is... to which he'll probably refuse and instead might do it for free.

derrickfosgate · May 26, 2017

Rx series mods lick sweaty ass

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derrickfosgate · May 26, 2017

I unfortunately have 2 from when i first started vapeing and knew no better

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