Dual fused claptons one ramps faster

Jadidaskv · Jun 23, 2017

So i built dual fused claptons, two 24g cores 28g clapton, 4 wrap, ona 3.5mm jig, .14Ω ona medusa and geekvape mech pro. One coil is ramping quite a bit faster than the other. They both take pretty long to ramp (on the ohm reader) but both coils are exactly the same. No hot spots, both glow nicely from the middle out, i tried working/tweeking them for atleast 20mins and can't get them to ramp at the same speed. I strum them, pinched em, poked em, tried to space them, pinched them back together, with tweezers tried to spread the coils apart a bit, pinched them back together, tried everything i can think of n still one ramps up faster than the other. I dont get it. I dont understand why they wont ramp/heat up at the same speed

PhantomOp · Jun 23, 2017

Can you take a good clear picture of them?
It really sounds like one coil has an additional wrap on it vs the other, or --- one of the coils is getting a bad connection to a post on the deck.

raymo2u · Jun 24, 2017

There are many variables for this to take place. One could have a better connection (tighter screws), one could have slightly longer leads. Tighten all your connections, give it a good strum, play with coil adjustment and if it continues then replace them both....

whiteowl84 · Jun 24, 2017

raymo2u said:
There are many variables for this to take place. One could have a better connection (tighter screws), one could have slightly longer leads. Tighten all your connections, give it a good strum, play with coil adjustment and if it continues then replace them both....

Exactly what I was going to say.

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raymo2u · Jun 24, 2017

whiteowl84 said:
Exactly what I was going to say.

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Too slow my bruh

Jadidaskv · Jun 24, 2017

raymo2u said:
There are many variables for this to take place. One could have a better connection (tighter screws), one could have slightly longer leads. Tighten all your connections, give it a good strum, play with coil adjustment and if it continues then replace them both....

Connections are all tight, same amount of wraps, same spacing from the deck, same spacing in the wraps. Leads might be slightly longer since one coil is in both top holes, one coil is in both bottom holes, and they're lined up evenly. I had the first coil in the top and bottom, when i went to put the other in the top and bottom it was wrapped the wrong direction so it wouldnt line up so i put one in the bottom two and one in the top two. I did this a couple times before and it didnt make a difference in their ramp speed, they were single gauge, single strand, basic coils.

They both glow from the middle out after strumming, pinching, ect, just one ramps about 3/4 of a second slower. I did everything i could to get them to ramp at the same speed but thats the closest i could get them after trying for at least 20mins so i jus said f it and wicked them. I put more cotton in the one that ramps faster and they seem to be working good jus a little slow to ramp on the first pull after it sits for a bit. As long as i dont let it sit for a little while after the first pull they ramp up good since it takes them a little bit to completely cool down after letting go of the fire buttom

MWorthington · Jun 24, 2017

I'm brand new to rebuildables but not to electricity. Is the one that's heating first in the bottom by any chance?

joeyboy · Jun 24, 2017

Jadidaskv said:
Connections are all tight, same amount of wraps, same spacing from the deck, same spacing in the wraps. Leads might be slightly longer since one coil is in both top holes, one coil is in both bottom holes, and they're lined up evenly. I had the first coil in the top and bottom, when i went to put the other in the top and bottom it was wrapped the wrong direction so it wouldnt line up so i put one in the bottom two and one in the top two. I did this a couple times before and it didnt make a difference in their ramp speed, they were single gauge, single strand, basic coils.

They both glow from the middle out after strumming, pinching, ect, just one ramps about 3/4 of a second slower. I did everything i could to get them to ramp at the same speed but thats the closest i could get them after trying for at least 20mins so i jus said f it and wicked them. I put more cotton in the one that ramps faster and they seem to be working good jus a little slow to ramp on the first pull after it sits for a bit. As long as i dont let it sit for a little while after the first pull they ramp up good since it takes them a little bit to completely cool down after letting go of the fire buttom

Take the coil tool and put it back in each coil and move it around slightly. Recheck your screws and strum. Heat it and strum lightly.

See if that helps.

HondaDavidson · Jun 25, 2017

Did you say one coil in top whole b one in bottom or one LEG of each coil in the top whole and the other legs in the bottom.... this help the coil mount more even and centered.....

Play with the leg length..... TIGHTEN THE POSTS. You have to tighten to get connection with the core........ the cladding of the clapton wire inhibits good connections.

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gakudzu · Jun 25, 2017

Which coil is heating faster, bottom or top? Seems to me the bottom coil is completing the circuit, and the top coil is just along for the ride.

MWorthington · Jun 25, 2017

HondaDavidson said:
Did you say one coil in top whole b one in bottom or one LEG of each coil in the top whole and the other legs in the bottom.... this help the coil mount more even and centered.....

Play with the leg length..... TIGHTEN THE POSTS. You have to tighten to get connection with the core........ the cladding of the clapton wire inhibits good connections.

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No Honda, he's got one coil in the top holes, and one in the bottom. Now, I'm brand new to coil building, but I understand quite a bit about how electricity works, and I'm suspecting the bottom coil is heating up a fraction before the top. But I could be wrong.

HondaDavidson · Jun 25, 2017

MWorthington said:
No Honda, he's got one coil in the top holes, and one in the bottom. Now, I'm brand new to coil building, but I understand quite a bit about how electricity works, and I'm suspecting the bottom coil is heating up a fraction before the top. But I could be wrong.

No having one coil above or before the other isn't the issue..... the difference will be one coil contains more wire than the other.... or more likely connections are not as tight as you think. Doesn't take much were talking fractions here.

Tight post screws do NOT equal a tight connection...

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joeyboy · Jun 25, 2017

I think I would rip them out and start again or just be happy with the unequal heating and use them for a couple of days. I don't play that long. Fifteen minutes and done.

Iliketurtles · Jun 25, 2017

joeyboy said:
I think I would rip them out and start again or just be happy with the unequal heating and use them for a couple of days. I don't play that long. Fifteen minutes and done.

I'm wit you, if it don't work right - must be a weakness in the wire or something just toss them and make new. Quicker and easier.

LetTheLuckRoll · Jun 25, 2017

If one of the coils inner diameter is larger it could cause this also. Maybe you pulled tighter while building one of the coils try it again,but make sure to pull your Leeds on the coils to tighten them up before the install.

Jadidaskv · Jun 28, 2017

There is no top or bottom coil with these posts. Each post has one screw on top and a higher and lower channel. I have one leg on the higher channel on one post and the lower channel on the other post, same for the other coil just opposite so each leg is in its own channel. I jus said the hell with it and using them as is. Seems to be working fine.

kennedyhexohmfan · Jun 30, 2017

Legs in one are probably longer then in the other.

Jadidaskv · Jun 30, 2017

kennedyhexohmfan said:
Legs in one are probably longer then in the other.

Nope. It isn't.

LetTheLuckRoll · Jun 30, 2017

Just rebuild it.

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Jadidaskv · Jul 3, 2017

LetTheLuckRoll said:
Just rebuild it.

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No need, its been vaping just fine. Ive seen builds where people use two dif gauges so one intentionally ramps faster than the other. I think turbo coils they were called. So just because one ramps faster than the other, doesnt mean they have to be rebuilt, unless ones burning the cotton or causing problems. If its not causing problems and you're happy with the way it vapes, then vape it. Its pointless to throw them away if they arent causing problems and you're happy with the way its working.

LetTheLuckRoll · Jul 3, 2017

Then why are you asking questions if all answers are wrong?

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Jadidaskv · Jul 4, 2017

First of all i posted it before i tried vaping it, i did what ppl suggested so its not my fault all the answers are wrong, secondly, its two weeks old and i had already said that i just said the hell with it and tried them and they're vaping fine, so why would you suggest i rebuild them if i already said Im using them and they're working fine? Ok, they're vaping just fine for over a week and someone online said that i should throw them away and rebuild them after i said they're vaping just fine so sure, ill jus rebuild them eventhough they're working just because someone told me to.

LetTheLuckRoll · Jul 4, 2017

Waste of time

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Dual fused claptons one ramps faster

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