First time building with Nichrome80

516_vaper_li · Aug 4, 2017

I need some insight. I'm building with 24g nichrome80, single coil. .60 ohm, about 7 volts. 10 wraps

Now I usually run my mod about 52w, but the flavor wasn't normal so I bumped it up to 65w then 75 then 95. I noticed that the inhale wasn't getting hotter. 65w was the same as 95w. This seems very strange? I'm using the SMM Serpent on the Minikin v2.

Is it the breaking in of nichrome?

Thanks

champton · Aug 4, 2017

Hmm, I'm gonna try to give you some ideas from what I've learned by making coils, as my experience with NiChrome is rather limited.

1. Check to see if your coil is glowing evenly. Ideally, you should see a smooth, solid glow throughout the coil going from the middle outward.
2. Tighten down your screws to decrease the resistance slightly. The coil may not be making a good connection, and therefore may not be receiving power.

Aside from that, I don't know. Other vapers will chime in though that have more experience with your specific material. Just give it time.

skiball · Aug 4, 2017

Ni80 just heats up alot faster. It's bc of the high nickel content, also why nickel has to be set in temp mode and not watts. Ss also heats up faster than kanthal but not as much as ni80.

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whiteowl84 · Aug 4, 2017

skiball said:
Ni80 just heats up alot faster. It's bc of the high nickel content, also why nickel has to be set in temp mode and not watts. Ss also heats up faster than kanthal but not as much as ni80.

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What? He's using a regulated mod.
They all should heat at the same rate if they're getting the same power.
SS heats the fastest on a mech because it has the lowest resistance.
Ni200 needs to be used in TC because it's resistance changes too much for wattage modes to work and because ni200 is dangerous if you get it too hot. This doesn't apply to n80 because of it's high chromium content and low nickel content.

N80 is harder to get glowing evenly than A1, especially if you've never used it before.
Build the same build you'd normally make with A1 then pulse at 20 to 30w.
Odds are you'll see random wraps glowing while others aren't. Just flick and squeeze them till it's perfect. Make sure the connections are good.

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The Cromwell · Aug 4, 2017

According to Steam engine that should be a 30-40 watt coil.

skiball · Aug 4, 2017

whiteowl84 said:
What? He's using a regulated mod.
They all should heat at the same rate if they're getting the same power.
SS heats the fastest on a mech because it has the lowest resistance.
Ni200 needs to be used in TC because it's resistance changes too much for wattage modes to work and because ni200 is dangerous if you get it too hot. This doesn't apply to n80 because of it's high chromium content and low nickel content.

N80 is harder to get glowing evenly than A1, especially if you've never used it before.
Build the same build you'd normally make with A1 then pulse at 20 to 30w.
Odds are you'll see random wraps glowing while others aren't. Just flick and squeeze them till it's perfect. Make sure the connections are good.

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So you believe that all metals have the same properties when heated and thats ohm/watt is the only variable at effects heat?

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whiteowl84 · Aug 4, 2017

No they don't but when you dump 100w into identical coils made of different metals the one that weighs less heats faster. The specific alloy does change how it conducts heat like how it's harder to heat stainless than steel but that doesn't apply here.

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skiball · Aug 4, 2017

whiteowl84 said:
No they don't but when you dump 100w into identical coils made of different metals the one that weighs less heats faster. The specific alloy does change how it conducts heat like how it's harder to heat stainless than steel but that doesn't apply here.

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Please elaborate why that doesn't apply here. Also what weighs more chromium or iron?

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whiteowl84 · Aug 4, 2017

N80 8.3g/cm^3 weighs more than A1 7.1g/cm^3.
Chromium vs iron isn't the issue. You need to take the alloy as a whole not just one element of an alloy.
The way they conduct heat isn't relevant because you're directly vibrating the molecules with current.

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516_vaper_li · Aug 6, 2017

I just sticking with me usual fused claptons from now on. Who wants 50ft of Nichrome80 24 gauge?

falcor · Aug 8, 2017

jives21 said:
I just sticking with me usual fused claptons from now on. Who wants 50ft of Nichrome80 24 gauge?

Same here. I bought some pre-made Coilology staple fused claptons as an add-on to an order, thinking it was Kanthal, and turns out they're Ni80. Don't even know why I got them, since I only build my own coils.

I'll send it to someone for free, if you'll pay the postage. I don't want em. But I'm sure they're good, if you like Ni80. Think they're 2.5mm.

First time building with Nichrome80

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