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KarmicRage

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That. Is. HeaVYYY! ! :/ couldn't imagine finishing wrapping my coil and not having cotton to get on with vaping. Make sure to get an extra big bag so you don't run out for a while haha

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Thatch760

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Lol I know. I have some on order will be here Thursday. Luckly the vape shop is right across the street from me so im heading there now.
 

KarmicRage

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At least ya can be sure it won't get any harder
Edit. They're still finicky for me to do. Something I should practice more like
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At least ya can be sure it won't get any harder
Edit. They're still finicky for me to do. Something I should practice more like
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Just make a pair for everyone you know that vapes, or if you don't know many people who vape just make a pair a day and stockpile them. They will get as easy as fused Claptons really quick haha. I promised a bunch of people I would make them a pair one night and now they are boring af but I'm stuck making them.

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SignMan

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These are the smallest staples I've made yet! I got a good deal in some KP .3 ribbon so I jumped on it. I had never worked with .3 before and it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be....and the gaps on the fuse wraps were ummm...on purpose so....you could see the ribbon inside. Yea that's what I did :facepalm:
 

KarmicRage

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I'm a pedantic cunt so I've gotta say it's a framed staple :) rest of it looks tight man do next few builds should see it solidified. What's the specs and how's the ramp up speed?

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SignMan

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I'm a pedantic cunt so I've gotta say it's a framed staple :) rest of it looks tight man do next few builds should see it solidified. What's the specs and how's the ramp up speed?

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I've been practicing more and more with 40g but I have such a hard time seeing it especially when its messing up. I totally forgot to add the specs in too so my bad on that. 28g n80 frames, 4 ply - .3 K ribbon core, 40g KD on the outside....6 wraps, 3.5mm ID. Depending on what mod it's on it ohms out at 0.19 to 0.2. Ramp up is excellent! I kept building big ass FS's and using them on a tube but ramp up is stupid long even at like 0.15....I feel safer keeping single cell mechs around 0.2 though.

I really like this .3 ribbon. It was easier to work with than I was expecting! I would totally feel comfotable upping the stack some more...to say 8 ply. Anyways that's for another day. I haven't made anything worth posting in a while...busy with other crap.
 

Dustyjeans

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These are the smallest staples I've made yet! I got a good deal in some KP .3 ribbon so I jumped on it. I had never worked with .3 before and it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be....and the gaps on the fuse wraps were ummm...on purpose so....you could see the ribbon inside. Yea that's what I did :facepalm:
Lol yeah on purpose. Id say the same. Hehe. Next step is to get some .2ni80 do 8-10ply/32g frames and 44 wrap like i did. Push it! I know its basic but Im really proud of it and still vaping that little build i did a month or so ago. Love it in my Petri!

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Dustyjeans

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I've been practicing more and more with 40g but I have such a hard time seeing it especially when its messing up. I totally forgot to add the specs in too so my bad on that. 28g n80 frames, 4 ply - .3 K ribbon core, 40g KD on the outside....6 wraps, 3.5mm ID. Depending on what mod it's on it ohms out at 0.19 to 0.2. Ramp up is excellent! I kept building big ass FS's and using them on a tube but ramp up is stupid long even at like 0.15....I feel safer keeping single cell mechs around 0.2 though.

I really like this .3 ribbon. It was easier to work with than I was expecting! I would totally feel comfotable upping the stack some more...to say 8 ply. Anyways that's for another day. I haven't made anything worth posting in a while...busy with other crap.
If you cant see the lead angle try the light reflection trick i posted a few pages back. It really helps me when my eyes get tired.

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SignMan

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Lol yeah on purpose. Id say the same. Hehe. Next step is to get some .2ni80 do 8-10ply/32g frames and 44 wrap like i did. Push it! I know its basic but Im really proud of it and still vaping that little build i did a month or so ago. Love it in my Petri!

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.2ni80 do 8-10ply/32g frames and 44 wrap.....thats basic? Get the eff outta here :crazy:
 

Th3T

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Sup builders, been a while since I've posted anything here and I see a lot of badass builds through the past few pages. I revamped my build setup recently and just got a macro lens for my phone today so was playing around with it. Any tips for lighting and stuff would be appreciated ;p Still practicing the alien stagg and got pretty close tonight but not quite there yet. 40g staggers are still hit and miss for me as well. practice makes perfect.
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Dustyjeans

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.2ni80 do 8-10ply/32g frames and 44 wrap.....thats basic? Get the eff outta here :crazy:
Well the build style is basic...the small guages are always the challenge right? One good thing about it tho it makes normal size build seem quick and easy!!Ive posted this one before but i am proud of her
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Dustyjeans

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Sup builders, been a while since I've posted anything here and I see a lot of badass builds through the past few pages. I revamped my build setup recently and just got a macro lens for my phone today so was playing around with it. Any tips for lighting and stuff would be appreciated ;p Still practicing the alien stagg and got pretty close tonight but not quite there yet. 40g staggers are still hit and miss for me as well. practice makes perfect.
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Getting the space right on the stags is tough at 1st. Ive never done it with 40 tho!

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Thatch760

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Got this from big lots for $5 its not bad . If anyone is looking for a macro lens an has a big lots in the area they should have it. Ill post some pics with it when i get done spinning some wire.image.jpg Got some vape mail yesterday this came in. I recommend it to any one looking for swivels.image.jpg
 

Th3T

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@Th3T i was taught by raymo to use all 28 in the cores. decore with 28 and the 24

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Yeah that's what I did, 5x 28g n80 with 38g. Decored spaced alien on 28g, and 24g for final alien per you and raymos tip from last time. Was previously trying it with 36g but for me the 36g was too stiff and I kept messing up on the spaced alien.
 

Th3T

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Got this from big lots for $5 its not bad . If anyone is looking for a macro lens an has a big lots in the area they should have it. Ill post some pics with it when i get done spinning some wire.View attachment 89554 Got some vape mail yesterday this came in. I recommend it to any one looking for swivels.View attachment 89553
Damn I paid 30 for mine at best buy and the lenses look almost identical. I think its an Insignia brand or something. I just got a Spin LT recently and have been loving that. Also got the Krok ball bearing swivels to use for micro claptons and stuff, but mainly using the Spin LT atm.
 

Dustyjeans

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Yeah that's what I did, 5x 28g n80 with 38g. Decored spaced alien on 28g, and 24g for final alien per you and raymos tip from last time. Was previously trying it with 36g but for me the 36g was too stiff and I kept messing up on the spaced alien.
Oh my bad i thought the frames looked a little bigger. Sometmes Raymo rolls is in a pasta maker to flatten them out. I dont habe one so i just pinched down the whole length with nylon plyers to make the wraps set together. Lookin grest man!

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KarmicRage

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That's one of the next rda I want. Also wanna try out the pandora with "flavour fins" in the top cap. And the dpro to see the differences between the pulse 24 and the dpro. Nice looking coils btw man

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I guess Ill try and do a weeks worth of posting every time I visit....I see alot of people doing stuff a bit outside their comfort zones and nailing it...hope to see that applied as often as possible!!

All Ribbon SSFCs ( .3R Kanthal + SS Mixed)

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Simple and Basic 3 Core Fused Claptons with Staged Heating.
3x28g SS/44N80 + 26N80

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And Standard WirePorn...

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Dustyjeans

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Whats a good combo of wire to use for that build to make the center pop out more
If you want the center to be more of a hump you could do a groove stag. Its mass will be lower and easier to build.

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MaxPerilous

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Now I have to get one those macro lenses or w/e so you can actually see what the coils look like. They look like reg round wire in this picture. They are actually SS316L 2x28/36 fused claptons. Used a Deadalus so I guess that's cheating. But my first attempt and wound up with 3 usable coils! Ultimate goal is aliens though, deadalus isn't going to make those on auto pilot, but the decore should be fairly simple to make lol.

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KarmicRage

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I'm a personal believer in whatever gets you there. The daedalues seemed useful to me and certainly made claptons simple, that was until I broke it. Don't be too heavy handed with the drill as one or 2 of the cogs in the motor are plastic :/. Nice piece of kit apart from that. Still use the coil jig for holding my spool when wrapping simple wraps

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Vaping pretty good actually. I'd like a little lower resistance but otherwise not bad. Might just take a wrap off these and see how she goes. Afraid to go to low though on this crappy lil boxer clone.
 

BKTOAD

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Now I have to get one those macro lenses or w/e so you can actually see what the coils look like. They look like reg round wire in this picture. They are actually SS316L 2x28/36 fused claptons. Used a Deadalus so I guess that's cheating. But my first attempt and wound up with 3 usable coils! Ultimate goal is aliens though, deadalus isn't going to make those on auto pilot, but the decore should be fairly simple to make lol.

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TBH, if you can't make the decore without the daedalus, finishing the aliens will be impossible. I personally cannot see how one could possibly successfully wrap an alien without being able to knock out a fused clapton with just swivels. Just my honest take.

I wouldn't say it is cheating to use the daedalus. Way better than buying mass produced coils. Is using swivels cheating? Just using a tool to complete a task.

Hopefully using the daedalus will make something "click" with you how easy making claptons and fused claptons can be. Everyone started riding a bike with training wheels. Figure that out, then try to take the training wheels off.

I know when I started making claptons and fused, I was trying way to hard. Trying to control the wrap, instead of letting it wrap itself. And maybe watching the daedalus in action will reinforce this idea. If you try to micro-manage wrapping aliens, it will not end well.

When making claptons without the daedalus:
1) dont pull tension on the core wire. Just pull the drill enough to keep the core wire straight, but a slight slack in the swivels

2) hold the spool of wrap around 90degrees from the core. About a foot away from the core. With a very bare minimum of tension. Almost hard to hold the spool so lightly.

3) let the drill go. At least medium speed. Keep your head back from the wire. Don't try to manage the wraps. Just let the drill do it's thing.
 

MaxPerilous

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I did sort of keep a finger on the sled part to feel what the feed rate was like. I'll get there. I'm determined to do it lol. But for now, like you said, at least I can make some vapable coils with minimal effort. I need to play around a bit too. The ones I made last night aren't low enough for me. The vape is very cool and not my speed. I like my vape to be nice and warm almost hot even. Need to figure out how to do it without to much ramp up time too. I hate ramp up time, #IJustWannaVape
 

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Just got the dead rabbit in yesterday and threw together a small but wide fralien. Also I got inspired by raymos recent IG post (and now its here as well) to try a double stuffed (think that's what its called) staggerton. Probably my best attempt at a 40g staggered build yet. Definitely going to do more.
Fralien: 29g N80 frames x 10ply .3R A1 x 38g 316L
Staggerton: 28g N80 outer frames x 4ply .4R A1 inner frames x Core is 4ply .4R N80 outer and 2ply .4 A1 center for a striped effect (will take pics when I go to use) all 40g N80 wrap

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Just got the dead rabbit in yesterday and threw together a small but wide fralien. Also I got inspired by raymos recent IG post (and now its here as well) to try a double stuffed (think that's what its called) staggerton. Probably my best attempt at a 40g staggered build yet. Definitely going to do more.
Fralien: 29g N80 frames x 10ply .3R A1 x 38g 316L
Staggerton: 28g N80 outer frames x 4ply .4R A1 inner frames x Core is 4ply .4R N80 outer and 2ply .4 A1 center for a striped effect (will take pics when I go to use) all 40g N80 wrap

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BKTOAD

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Not an immaculate build by any means. But my build none-the-less. First stab at this coil.

6x.4 kanthal framed with 2 twisted 30g ss316l wrapped with 40g ss316l staged with a 26g/40g ss316l clapton.

Tried a new method to keep everything from collapsing. Cut a 1" piece of velcro (both sides) and attached the velcro together around the cores and ribbon. And put a clothespin over the velcro. Really seemed to work well.

The spaced wrap was another story altogether. Didnt look TOO bad until the macro lens saw it. The macro tells no lies.
 

champton

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No, some fucked-up version of a fused clapton, LOL! As you can probably figure out, I haven't mastered it on smaller gauge wire yet. I can do it on larger wire, but the clapton portion separates as I wrap it on smaller wire. Too loose, I'm guessing.
 
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mach1ne

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so i picked this up a while ago from a local. i mainly got it for the novelty of having it, and i keep forgetting about it. it needs to be built in full glory/two deck mode (it can be a regular rta with one deck too, but whats the point of that?). i am looking for suggestions for a good quad build for it. im going to run it on a noisy cricket II, so the build can be for parallel, series or regulated series. i have tried to think/plan out a couple builds, but i dont have much experience with quad coil setups. i thought i would consult with some pros. im looking for a warm/hot vape with good rampup thats not super time consuming to make (this might be the only time this ever gets used so i dont want to spend my whole day on it lol). gimmie your best quad builds :cheers:
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champton

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Noisy Cricket eh?

"I feel like I'm gonna break this damn thing!"


Oh come on, you had to know you couldn't go 5 minutes without someone busting this out, right? :D
 

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