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Having recently gotten a Sigelei 100 watt mod, I want it to be able to live up to its full potential of 100 watts so I am wanting to build some 0.15 to 2.0 ohm coils for my Kayfuns and Russian.

After looking at the charts, I am thinking that going with 22 gauge is my best bet.

Right now, my oversized hands and the attached meat hooks are doing OK using 30 gauge Kanthal with the little freaking screws.

So I am asking those of you who have worked with this for your opinions!
 
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If you have big hands (meat hooks) you will love working with 22G, but it doesn't work with Kayfuns very well at all.
Put that shit on a dripper and jump back, you'll be in love.
 
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Dripper with huge post holes and tons of air flow 22 ga is a total pain in the hands.
Torch it to make it pliable.
 
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I always torch my wire before building.

Sorry, but drippers are just not my thing.

If 22 gauge will not work, what is the largest that will?
 
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You don't have to torch 22 gauge, it is so easy to work with. I have large hands to and for me the lower gauge, the easier it is. You may want to use more than you would with the lower gauge when wrapping it though since if you run low, the last wraps can dig in to your fingers.

I am using 22 gauge on my orchid right now, but I have to use 7 wraps and it is tough to fit. The one thing I will say about using 22 gauge on RTAs, it will burn much hotter and dry hit faster. If you will chain vape an RTA, I would try 24 gauge and if that burns juice to fast just work your way up.
 
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UncleRJ said:
Having recently gotten a Sigelei 100 watt mod, I want it to be able to live up to its full potential of 100 watts so I am wanting to build some 0.15 to 2.0 ohm coils for my Kayfuns and Russian.

After looking at the charts, I am thinking that going with 22 gauge is my best bet.

Right now, my oversized hands and the attached meat hooks are doing OK using 30 gauge Kanthal with the little freaking screws.

So I am asking those of you who have worked with this for your opinions!
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UncleRJ, those sub-ohm coils will melt the insulator on your Russian, believe me, I've done it with a .33 ohm coil. For the Russians and Kayfuns, I'd stick with a coil of a minimum of .6 to.7 Ohms. My .02.
 
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I love it, seems like my coils are tighter with larger gauges.
 
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22 is all I use.
 
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Zamazam said:
Try 26 or 28.
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Those two sizes work well with everything , my favorites 28 , especially for Kayfun's . 22 is fine for high wattage builds when you have a lot of room to work with.
 
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If you want to see the upper limits of your mod you will need a dual coil tank or dripper. A kayfun or russian just won't run well at that low of a resistance... or worse like zamazan said burn insulators.

If you have tried a dripper with high gauge wire, you haven't tried a well setup dripper yet. The big air flow and hot coils blend together to give you cool robust vapor. You can build it hot too, up to you.

Clones are cheap enough, pick up a $10 plume or whatever catches your eye and put your 22g in it's home... a dripper. Grab some 24g too, that's mainly what I build drippers with as I don't like vaping much below 0.3ohms. Too hot for my preference. 26g for the orchid but it's all preference, get a couple wire thicknesses to work with.

And I would absolutely say a thicker wire is easier to work with.
 
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+1

Those two sizes work well with everything , my favorites 28 , especially for Kayfun's . 22 is fine for high wattage builds when you have a lot of room to work with.
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28g is as low as I go building my wife's kayfun.
My atty's, different story.
 
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fq06 said:
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28g is as low as I go building my wife's kayfun.
My atty's, different story.
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Twenty eight gauge fits just fine on a Kayfun deck imo , any thicker your really limited by space . Most agree though that Kayfun's shine when built between 1.0 ohm up to about 1.8 . There are many that go lower though , not me.
 
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UncleRJ said:
I always torch my wire before building.

Sorry, but drippers are just not my thing.

If 22 gauge will not work, what is the largest that will?
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If drippers are not your thing, 0.15 builds should not be your thing either.
 
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fq06 said:
If you want to see the upper limits of your mod you will need a dual coil tank or dripper. A kayfun or russian just won't run well at that low of a resistance... or worse like zamazan said burn insulators.

If you have tried a dripper with high gauge wire, you haven't tried a well setup dripper yet. The big air flow and hot coils blend together to give you cool robust vapor. You can build it hot too, up to you.

Clones are cheap enough, pick up a $10 plume or whatever catches your eye and put your 22g in it's home... a dripper. Grab some 24g too, that's mainly what I build drippers with as I don't like vaping much below 0.3ohms. Too hot for my preference. 26g for the orchid but it's all preference, get a couple wire thicknesses to work with.

And I would absolutely say a thicker wire is easier to work with.
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Bollocks. I run dual 7wrap 22g coils on my Orchids for a total resistance of. .19ohms. Awesome results. Again check my "Mickey Mouse Ears" thread in "coils"


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Bollocks. I run dual 7wrap 22g coils on my Orchids for a total resistance of. .19ohms. Awesome results. Again check my "Mickey Mouse Ears" thread in "coils"


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Well, to me .19ohms in an orchid is just daft ( :D ) but like I said above it's all preference. My preference is about 0.5 with 26g. Why I suggested to get a few gauges of wire to see what works best.

I did see your Mikey Mouse ears, I can see how that would be needed to get that gauge wire in there but I prefer a coil that's closer to the air holes for a little cooler vape. And I'm not running such a bloody low resistance that burning insulators could be an issue so I can get low.
 
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Fair play that. I vape mostly bakery and sweet dessert flavours, so I prefer a hotter vape.


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Sleeper coil with 22g kanthal. Wasn't too difficult to work with.
 
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22 is the most pleasent one to work with. 20 and 18 gauge is starting to get a bit annoying, especially on sleepers. Top tip for these lower gauge wires is to straighten them if you cant be bothered with torching.
 
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I found 22g slow to heat, plus it keeps heating after you quit firing ... I use my 22g now to hold my mods in the box when I patina them ... :rolleyes:
 
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I got some 20 today, now that is actually truly hard to work with
 
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I like 20, but I can't use it on regulated. Also, for 22 on mechs, I find dual 5/6 wraps heats up pretty fast.
 
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OB61887 said:
You don't have to torch 22 gauge, it is so easy to work with. I have large hands to and for me the lower gauge, the easier it is. You may want to use more than you would with the lower gauge when wrapping it though since if you run low, the last wraps can dig in to your fingers.

I am using 22 gauge on my orchid right now, but I have to use 7 wraps and it is tough to fit. The one thing I will say about using 22 gauge on RTAs, it will burn much hotter and dry hit faster. If you will chain vape an RTA, I would try 24 gauge and if that burns juice to fast just work your way up.
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Agreed. I run dual 24s on my orchid. Love it.


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UncleRJ said:
I always torch my wire before building.

Sorry, but drippers are just not my thing.

If 22 gauge will not work, what is the largest that will?
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I have 26g in mine..8/9 wraps on a 3mm bit came in at .9 ohms on my provari V2
I use it at the casino alot as its a pain to drip on my mech trying to win some money playing the slots..lol

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UncleRJ said:
I always torch my wire before building.

Sorry, but drippers are just not my thing.

If 22 gauge will not work, what is the largest that will?
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26 gauge works very well in a Kayfun if you're trying to hit the higher sub-ohm range ( 0.6 - 0.9ish ), the coil's still small enough at that ohm level to get the kind of airflow the Kayfun needs. I've gotten 24 gauge to work aroun 0.8 as well, but don't use it often because my device doesn't have enough power to heat it up quickly enough to be practical. I could definitely see 24 gauge working well with some higher wattage.

I've gotten a 22 gauge coil to fit when I was just messing around, but I don't think it would work well enough to be useful unless you built to a lower ohm target, as in below 0.6. It's gonna end up being too large to get decent air circulation at any resistance greater than that, I think.
 
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