Vapor Flask?

robtest · Nov 20, 2014

talk about one upping ...

http://www.yiloong.com/html-en/product-rUfpqHIzgOso-latest-Flask-MOD-50W.html

samjoseph1024 · Nov 21, 2014

2 18650 batteries inside?

fury · Nov 21, 2014

Looks like a couple v1 clones made it to ebay. Too bad no v2's yet.

latinouno · Nov 22, 2014

Sparks said:
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I'm not waiting on a clone of the Flask, or maybe I'm misunderstanding your question, I do that a lot but the clones are certainly coming and should all be removable batteries if they are trying to 1:1 however I have seen some of these clones that are showing that you'll have to remove 4 screws from the top deck, remove the top and then put in the batteries, that's no good..!
I got an email from Alibaba and there ready to ship but I don't know of any vendors yet, however I am positive they will be flooding the market before Xmas, well maybe not with the speed in shipping unless some vendors have their orders in today, I know the release only came to my mail box about Monday or so, here's a link I found for a pre-order but honestly this thing looks like crap and I'll say this, if this company does business the way their clone pictures look I'd advise everyone to PASS, the top of their flask is missing screws and the machining or finish looks horrid in these pictures.
You can also just Google Alibaba Vapor Flask V2 that's who sent me the notice of their Flask clone, this here is shameful a pre-order http://www.ezvaper.com/products/vapor-flask-v2-clone-preorder
By the way, one thing I noticed almost immediately when I went to Alibabas site to look at what they are showing as their clone of the Flask, first it seems they are having trouble keeping what the specs are straight, says one thing and then another, and also most sadly the pictures they are showing are of the genuine flask the 30 watt, IMO, could be wrong but I don't think so, especially when I look at their picture and then look at my flask, that helps in forming an opinion, so anyhow pal, pre-orders are out there, I hate those pre-orders, these vendors use other peoples money to be able to buy to minimum lot requirement, that really bugs me, personally.
Good luck my friend and by the way this is my Flask, not a clone..View attachment 9125

Thanks for your input and agree about those pre-orders. I have seen reviews on the Vapor Flask with the dna40 and it's a very nice PV.

SteveZ · Nov 22, 2014

samjoseph1024 said:
2 18650 batteries inside?

Emailed yiloong. 2 batteries. They must be parallel given the chip specs.

MD_Boater · Nov 22, 2014

moecat said:
If one could actually pour and sip a beverage from that ... well, now we'd be talkin'!

I was whipping out the CC when I saw the pictures in the 1st post. After I had seen the specs, and realized that it won't hold rum, I put the CC away. Looks like a really nice mod, though.

1truk · Nov 23, 2014

Hey Sparks .. I just got my VF DNA40 yesterday. With mine, the 510 threads are a bit weird in that I can't get most of my Tanks to screw onto it. So far the only tank I can use with it is my Authentic Russian 91%. I have a truck load of Kayfun clones and none of them will thread on. By some chance are you seeing this to be an issue with yours? Also, when I got mine, the battery screws were both scratched, the "UP" button seems to be pushed pushed in and the Power button has almost no tactile feedback. No "click" when you push on it and is slow to pop back out when you release it. Its as if the spring inside is WAY too weak. Pushing the power/fire button is so easy you can almost just breath on it and it will fire. You experiencing anything at all like any of this? BTW, I did contact VF and they are sending me an RMA form tomorrow, its just that for 300 bucks it was EXTREMELY disappointing. When you lay down this kind of cash its almost like buying a new car and someone "keying" the paint job before you can even drive it off of the lot.

Giraut · Jan 16, 2015

1truk said:
Hey Sparks .. I just got my VF DNA40 yesterday. With mine, the 510 threads are a bit weird in that I can't get most of my Tanks to screw onto it.[...]

The 510 threads are a bit tight, yes. That's because they's well machined, and in a steel block, which is a harder material than brass obviously.

The first time I screwed my Manta V2 RDA onto it, the threads bound. Turned out, despite being authentic and supposedly of better quality, the atty's threads had burrs in them. I had to chase them with a 7x0.5 die to clean them up and get the atty to screw onto the Vaporflask freely.

Here's an annoying feature of the Vaporflask though: the top screws. I realized the top plate was moving about the other day. So I meant to tighten the screw, and... that's no so simple: they require a 1.3mm hex wrench - not exactly the most common tool

Sparks · Jan 24, 2015

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Nikkita6 · Jan 24, 2015

Sparks said:
Hey 1truk, I'm sorry brother (For Real) that it took so long to get back to you,
But to answer your question am I seeing problems, with these Fn VAPOR FLASKS ..??
I am SO fn pissed the F off, Really.. I am major pissed off.. !! I hate RMA's and Vapor Flask, NEVER again, period, that's fucking it, they are shit..!!
AND I just bought two more and a clone of the VF and the damn clone is better than the authentic, with the exception of the chip set.
I bought another VF back in November and it has chip issues, so not the fault of VF but I had to wait for this new chip version to come out to get that issue fixed, so now the new V4 Evolv is out, chip seems fine, but the overall quality of the Flask is FUCKING SHIT..!!!!!!!
I'm sorry I just don't know how else to say what I'm saying, these Flasks are CRAP...
Spent $600 on so called authentic flasks plus another $20 for Fedex signature delivery so the stupid piece of shit mods don't get lost and are insured and NOW I'm wishing they had got lost, I'd rather have the insurance money, PLUS I bought a $100 Infinite VF clone and guess what???
I had a lady friend come over who doesn't know jack shit about Vapor Flasks, still puffing her ego and the MVP I gave her and I took the clone and the authentic, "clone has Infinite stamped right on the front of it" and I set the two side by side and explained that one of them cost $300 and one cost about $100 asked her to pick which one cost $300, YOU JUST FUCKING GUESS which one she picked??? Yep..!!
And then she said, Wow that's really nice and I asked her how could she tell and she said are you stupid?
Look at the big gap on the top of the cheap one, the fucking cheap one, OH man.., and the nice textured finish on the nice one is how I can tell, plus that nice leather bag and the other one has a cheap fake velvet.. OKKKK,
YA, I wanted to choke my best friend, aRRRRGGGGHHHH... WTF it's that bad to someone who wouldn't know a Vapor Flask if I hit her in the head with it,
I am so damn mad my brother and at 59 years old if they give me a fucking heart attack and I die I guarantee you I'm gonna kill them... well I'll try... LOL
Ya, for $300 bucks, EACH, and MADE IN AMERICA, this is a damn disgrace, I'm attaching some pics of how the top cap on the gunmetal isn't even screwed down all the way flush, and ya the - and + buttons are all Fd up, one flask both are damn near recessed into the mod, the other ones flush and ones normal. The threading on the battery caps are ruff as hell, shit man, this has to be a joke...
I'll tell you what I think, they knew the clone was coming out and they rushed a bunch into production to try and get as many out and sold as possible before the clone came and stomped a mud hole in there business, so QA out the Fn window, this is Fn really got me pissed off,
In the past the flask would sell out at VapeRev in about a half hour, took them a week this time, VapinArt still has some for sell since the release.
Vapor Flask might as well close up shop with crap like this,
All this clone maker has to do is get a better chip set and VF is done if not already, I never buy another product from them at the way I feel right this minute, this should not even have happened ..!!
The damn clone has shit for a chip but at least it's clean, looks decent and the QA is there, it's well made and I CAN USE MORE THAN JUST TWO DIFFERENT BATTERIES, Yaaaa
So what do I do??
Buy a Evolv chip set and a better stainless 510 and mod the clone to get a good quality product..!!
So now Monday I have to contact damn VF for a RMA for 3 flasks, man they are probably just going to have to skip the next batch just so they can fix this batch as your not the only one having problems and neither am I so I'm hearing, WTF is all I can say,
OH YA did I mention that I'm having problems to brother, and I'm a bit mad over it, so back to the IPV Mini, OH WAIT I have a CLONE Vapor Flask that is pretty much flawless except it has a cheap ass chip in it, but it looks good...LOL
Peace and sorry sort of about the rant...
Frankly if they offered my money back I'd take it and just fix the clone, for real.
Hey here's a dumb question for you pal.. Answer me this.. Just what kind of IDIOT buys a $1000 worth of mods and each one has some kind of issue with it.. HUM??? I'll bet you I know the answer..

Wow ... you are pissed, and rightfully so. Oddly enough I received a VF V2 clone yesterday, the finish is simply wonderful although its not perfect with regards to the chip. My only issue with regards to build quality is how tight and small the battery slots are. My batts are now permanently installed because I cannot get them out.

Do you mind if I copy a pic or two of your janky authentic Vapor Flask clones to use in my review of the clone? It would help the consuming public to know what they might be getting with the authentic. I am surprised and disappointed for you. I have been a fan of the VF design for a while, and it was the one Evolv DNA high end device that I thought would be worth the price, and I have stated this in a few other reviews ... guess I was wrong

Sparks · Jan 24, 2015

Yes using the pics is fine,

Sparks · Jan 24, 2015

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Giraut · Jan 24, 2015

Yep. It's 1.3mm alright. And don't you use a cheap tool, else you'll quickly strip the screw heads.

I'm thinking about opening mine too, to fix the floating USB port issue. Vaporflask may say it's normal, I say it isn't and it bothers me. Clearly it's due to the cheap design of their plastic frame thingy inside the mod, that holds everything together. Also, if I open mine up, I'll fit a plexiglass window to the screen slot - because over time, it gets covered in condensed VG - and I'll make the + and - buttons level.

Those are small issues, but for the price that device sells for, I must say I'm not terribly impressed...

Sparks · Jan 24, 2015

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2ndInCommand · Jan 24, 2015

Glad I didn't bite on on of these. Almost.did, but for the money, they should be mint or better. I'm not even gonna get into what you could get for 300 change,like a.russian and sx mini, and at far better quality. This thing is like buying a fucking cloudpoor, only you could get 7 of those. Really too bad for something that should be badass.

Sparks · Jan 24, 2015

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Sparks · Jan 24, 2015

Sparks said:
Yes using the pics is fine,

By the way if you needed anymore pictures let me know

Sparks · Feb 13, 2015

So alright why is it I jump on a forum fire off a full page rant about two authentic Vapor Flasks I bought during their last release that were ALL fucked about and cost $300 each then about a couple hours later I return and delete it?
Because I was Damn MAD, but then I get to thinking, well what if it was a fluke or something else, how about contact them first and see what they have to say for themselves, hum, sounds logical to me, but I am just to fucking mad and insane at that moment to contact anyone and I just feel like yelling at the world and fuck all that shit.
So FINALLY with my blood pressure now normal, nearly a month after the fact, I did contact Vapor Flask today and within an hour of my email I got a response which I'm going to post, because it's the right thing to do after what I had to say about their products.

Hello G...,

I am sorry that the mods were shipped to you in that condition. I also apologize that the devices left out facility in that condition. WE have since hired a production manager to oversee the production of the devices and he has since enacted stricter inspection standards and every single mods that leaves our facility is 100% checked. If at all possible I would like to replace those devices. I can send you 2 new units and upon receiving them would you be able to send the 2 old one back? I would like to have them to bring to our production facility to just reiterate what not to do.

What color were the devices and what is your shipping address?

Regards,

So there you go, that is very decent and my lesson is learned about my insane rants prior to investigation and glad I deleted most of it, case closed..

Fictitious Character · Feb 13, 2015

Glad you got it all worked out @Sparks

Sparks · Feb 13, 2015

Fictitious Character said:
Glad you got it all worked out @Sparks

Well thank you, I'm glad also, I suppose having been a customer of VF since the beginning it was probably mostly shock vented as anger I suppose.
But I feel they really meant what I was told in the message to me and I'm glad for that, quality has always been their hallmark and it was very apparent that something was amiss.

Sparks · May 22, 2015

Giraut said:
The 510 threads are a bit tight, yes. That's because they's well machined, and in a steel block, which is a harder material than brass obviously.

The first time I screwed my Manta V2 RDA onto it, the threads bound. Turned out, despite being authentic and supposedly of better quality, the atty's threads had burrs in them. I had to chase them with a 7x0.5 die to clean them up and get the atty to screw onto the Vaporflask freely.

Here's an annoying feature of the Vaporflask though: the top screws. I realized the top plate was moving about the other day. So I meant to tighten the screw, and... that's no so simple: they require a 1.3mm hex wrench - not exactly the most common tool

Say pal, I had to come back and see what the size of that hex screw was for that top cap, thankful for Google as I remembered the conversation with you but forgot where and you showed up on a Google search, damn funny world and NO I haven't fixed that VF yet and yes I still have it and that's about all I'll comment on that,
But I am get that hex driver and I recall you saying get a quality one so I was a Grainger's site looking and I'm going to see if I can fix that gun metal one and sell some authentic flasks here on that Want to Sell or WTS forum,
I got some great ideas awhile back from Nikkita6 since she's surely a pro on this kind of selling stuff and what to do and certainly what not to do when selling, people will get crazy with you from what I've seen on other posts.
I look at all of my above posts that I had to delete, man what a rant I went on.

I don't even know if this will get to you Giraut but I'm sure glad you knew the size of those stupid screws.
I will say though after a long nasty fight with SE Box Mods or Vapor Flask and the owner I did make out pretty good so I'd like to sell some of what I got out of this issue for a fair price,
What I'm getting at is, now that you've had yours for awhile, what do you think they are really worth.
I'm certainly not a believer anymore that these flasks are worth $299 plus shipping that's for sure or even more now for some of them.
It used to be you could hardly find a authentic flask, well now with the clones out and SE Box Mods turning up production you can find a flask just about anywhere, authentic and some damn good clones from what I'd seeing.
Anyhow, if this does get to you I'd sure value your input, I'm thinking an unused flask for $200????? Plus shipping?? Or well your thoughts???
thanks pal... G Hey by the way did you have an issues with tightening that screw or anything I need to watch out for???

Giraut · May 22, 2015

Sparks said:
[...]what do you think they are really worth. I'm certainly not a believer anymore that these flasks are worth $299 plus shipping that's for sure or even more now for some of them.[...]

Define value...

The Vapor flask is the Lindsay Lohan of the vape world: great body, crappy guts. If you want a piece of vape gear that just works well for a good price, the flask ain't it. There are much better performers out there. But that's not what you buy one for.

Me, I hate the stupid clunky USB charge port and the awful charging speed. But I love handling my flask, especially in the custom-made leather cover. It's my device of choice when I go spend the night at my local jazz club, or if when go play at an upscale pool tournament: it's stupidly expensive, but it's what works well in those situations. The rest of the time, I use my boring beat-up black Vapor Shark that I don't derive any pleasure handling, but that just works and isn't a diva.

As for resale value, I can only give you the usual bromide: it's whatever the market will bear. If someone want to pay good money for an authentic flask just because it's authentic, then that'll be the resale price. So sell high and drop the price progressively until someone bites

Sparks said:
[...]G Hey by the way did you have an issues with tightening that screw or anything I need to watch out for???

Just don't overdo it when you torque the hex screws down, else you'll strip the hex sockets. They're pretty small, so it doesn't take much. And even if you don't destroy the hex sockets, you might distort them, which will take value off the device of course - since it'll obviously have been visibly opened then.

Sparks · May 22, 2015

Giraut said:
Define value...

The Vapor flask is the Lindsay Lohan of the vape world: great body, crappy guts. If you want a piece of vape gear that just works well for a good price, the flask ain't it. There are much better performers out there. But that's not what you buy one for.

Me, I hate the stupid clunky USB charge port and the awful charging speed. But I love handling my flask, especially in the custom-made leather cover. It's my device of choice when I go spend the night at my local jazz club, or if when go play at an upscale pool tournament: it's stupidly expensive, but it's what works well in those situations. The rest of the time, I use my boring beat-up black Vapor Shark that I don't derive any pleasure handling, but that just works and isn't a diva.

As for resale value, I can only give you the usual bromide: it's whatever the market will bear. If someone want to pay good money for an authentic flask just because it's authentic, then that'll be the resale price. So sell high and drop the price progressively until someone bites

Just don't overdo it when you torque the hex screws down, else you'll strip the hex sockets. They're pretty small, so it doesn't take much. And even if you don't destroy the hex sockets, you might distort them, which will take value off the device of course - since it'll obviously have been visibly opened then.

Damn sure made me laugh Lindsay Lohan, you sure got that right, glad to hear from you.
Ya I've tried that USB once and that was it for me, I just swap them out.
The rest of your thoughts are exactly as I was thinking, I now own 6 flasks and only paid for two so I really can set the prices fairly low and still recover my money.
Like you said there are so many mods out now and even the clones have improved on what the flask is lacking except their chips so I've heard but mainly those battery tubes really get to me, just to damn tight, sure did make it simple for me to tell though when I bought a pair of fake Sony's, wouldn't even come close to fitting in the tubes, but these newer clones at least let you use a wide range of batteries. Trouble with that is I've bought very few clones, truly do prefer to support the original designers.
Having bought Flasks since the first run I can say the quality IMO is lacking which they did explain to me some of the issues they were having which had me come back and delete my rants which were really just me venting my anger and publicly, felt like a idiot for doing that.
I was looking at those hex screws with a magnifier and they already looked banged up as if there aluminum screws to begin with.
Anyhow, thanks for your excellent input, very much appreciated.
Oh hey, need an extra flask, I'll sell you the gun metal one that needs the screws done for a really fair price, has never even had batteries in it .. LOL

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