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jojosvapes

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So I have seen a number of threads (online in general not VU) and videos of people claiming that temp control saves battery power or it uses more and everything seemed to be subjective without any real science / numbers to support this.

Some people would say they used the puff counter and got more or less in temp control- again subjective as the duration for each puff is an unknown variable.

Toying around with Escribe I did some monitoring comparing WATT vs Temp Control.

Now I can only say this is for my mod, coil setup etc but I do think the general concept of the data it logged is solid at showing that Temp Control does consume less power over the cycle of a draw.

I did a number of test at different watts, temps and the watts setting in temp. The only consistent I tried to keep was the same amount of vapor production in both modes. Once the vapor production was matched I used these examples.

Oddly enough even if I cranked the temp up higher the trend lines on the graph continued to drop below the wattage line (FYI the wattage setting for my temp control is also set to 100 watts).

Not trying to prove any point or say anyone is wrong as we all have different setups, preferences, and dislikes—but this would suggest that technically temp control does appear to consume less power than wattage mode when vapor production levels are equivalent.

The graph continued to show the same pattern as the image below (First three puffs are wattage, last three are temp control). I thought it was something that was neat / fun to mess with and wanted to share the findings. If this is an old / duplicate post its not intended.
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I would be interested if anyone had some other ideas on different data points to collect / test to compare the differences. Not so much to compare just power but to show more specific data difference in the two :) Happy Vapes everyone.
 
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Jim_MDP

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I'm lazy as hell about rewicking... really hate the bit of a sticky mess while doing it.

That said...

It's logical to presume that TC is more efficient. It fits with the power throttling that is a hallmark of the mode.

It's also reasonable to note, due to both less constant concern for dry hits, and the difference in the nature of the production between Watts and TC modes (TC must be drawn while watts will "throw" vapor until it's dry)... I take far longer draws in TC mode.

I also put off rewicking by backing down the set temp which then results in a slightly longer draw.

It's possible TC is actually less efficient, for me... with my personal vape habits.

If true... it's probable that it's entirely my own fault. :D
 

jojosvapes

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I'm lazy as hell about rewicking... really hate the bit of a sticky mess while doing it.

That said...

It's logical to presume that TC is more efficient. It fits with the power throttling that is a hallmark of the mode.

It's also reasonable to note, due to both less constant concern for dry hits, and the difference in the nature of the production between Watts and TC modes (TC must be drawn while watts will "throw" vapor until it's dry)... I take far longer draws in TC mode.

I also put off rewicking by backing down the set temp which then results in a slightly longer draw.

It's possible TC is actually less efficient, for me... with my personal vape habits.

If true... it's probable that it's entirely my own fault. :D

Na... Jim no fault of anyone we all have different vape styles. I like were your going with this, comparing some longer draws in different modes and see if the totals are still comparable or they show some other different "electrical" story :) When I have the time I would like to do a really detailed longer write up on TC maybe even comparing different wires. :cheers:
 

Jim_MDP

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Na... Jim no fault of anyone we all have different vape styles. I like were your going with this, comparing some longer draws in different modes and see if the totals are still comparable or they show some other different "electrical" story :) When I have the time I would like to do a really detailed longer write up on TC maybe even comparing different wires. :cheers:

The first thing I looked for, and noticed, in your pic was that you had very similar draw lengths between the watts and TC modes. It's the obvious difference I think of when wondering why I don't see extended batt life in TC.

I explained what I think may be the cause... but I've never investigated the topic TBH.

We've heard the claim for three years or more, I've always been skeptical. I've also been known to be wrong. ;)
 

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It comes down to efficiency. What TC is doing is very similar to how a Segway functions

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TC uses a microprocessor not only to apply, and reduce power in order to achieve a given temp, it employs algos to anticipate when, and how much.

The same as a Segway translates the operators input into the necessary motor pulses required to maintain equilibrium.

The secret, is sooner, smaller, smoother. The 3 S's are the key to efficiency. I had this drilled into me by a gifted flight instructor. Later,by a tyrant who would snarl from the left seat, "Are you buying the fucking fuel??" as I'd be chasing the needles trying to get on glide slope in weather at night, and was compensating by correcting lack of anticipation, with the thrust levers.

Computers are good at this type of thing. Think of TC as fly by wire. Hundreds of calculations per second to just keep a machine straight and level, where a human would lose control in a sub-second.

As the algos improve, and become more predicative, the processors will make fewer, finer and faster corrections. AKA sooner, smaller, smoother.

It is bound to use less power. The same as EFI in a auto makes more efficient use of gasoline.
 

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