Build a 1.5 ohm Dual Coil with 28G wire

VapeSoGood · Nov 13, 2014

I got a mvp2 and been dripping on it for 2 weeks and love it. But I'm looking to do a dual coil. Was wondering what ohm's would I have to hit on each coil to make it to 1.5 to 1.8 ohm range? I would fiddle with it but I don't have much coil about a foot and a half.

I'm sorry if posted in wrong section or if already been awnsered. I thank you for you're time looking into my question.

fq06 · Nov 13, 2014

1.5ohm 19 wrap on 2mm, or two 3ohm coils.
Play around with this
http://www.steam-engine.org/coil.asp?s=dp&r=1.5&awg=28&id=2&ll=4

Double the ohms, dual coil cuts it in half. So two 1.2ohm coils is a 0.6ohm dual coil.

WiSilverVape · Nov 13, 2014

My drippers are dual coil and try to hit around 1.4 to 1.5, I use 30 gauge. I think I'm at the limit for the number of wraps I wanna do.....28 gauge, nah, not for me

VapeSoGood · Nov 13, 2014

fq06 said:
1.5ohm 19 wrap on 2mm, or two 3ohm coils.
Play around with this
http://www.steam-engine.org/coil.asp?s=dp&r=1.5&awg=28&id=2&ll=4

Double the ohms, dual coil cuts it in half. So two 1.2ohm coils is a 0.6ohm dual coil.

Thanks a bunch mate!

VapeSoGood · Nov 13, 2014

fq06 said:
1.5ohm 19 wrap on 2mm, or two 3ohm coils.
Play around with this
http://www.steam-engine.org/coil.asp?s=dp&r=1.5&awg=28&id=2&ll=4

Double the ohms, dual coil cuts it in half. So two 1.2ohm coils is a 0.6ohm dual coil.

So if i get 10 wraps on what I use and I ge 1.8 ohms

fq06 said:
1.5ohm 19 wrap on 2mm, or two 3ohm coils.
Play around with this
http://www.steam-engine.org/coil.asp?s=dp&r=1.5&awg=28&id=2&ll=4

Double the ohms, dual coil cuts it in half. So two 1.2ohm coils is a 0.6ohm dual coil.

I don't know what im using, but 10 wraps gets me 1.8 ohms... So how many wraps will bring me to 3 ohms? <----- newb

fq06 · Nov 13, 2014

Yeah, I like to stay around 6 to 8 wraps with lower gauge wires but even with thinner wire on my wife's kayfun I don't like to have too many wraps.
30g would be 11 wrap 2.5mm coil. Closer than 28g.

VapeSoGood · Nov 13, 2014

fq06 said:
Yeah, I like to stay around 6 to 8 wraps with lower gauge wires but even with thinner wire on my wife's kayfun I don't like to have too many wraps.
30g would be 11 wrap 2.5mm coil. Closer than 28g.

So what maybe around 13 to 15 wraps?

fq06 · Nov 13, 2014

28g 2.5mm coil 17 wraps for 1.5ohms.

Your device has a 11w limit but what about amps? 3? I didn't see that anywhere.
If its 3a you can build down to 1.3ohms... 14 wrap coil.
30g (10 wrap) would be better to hit these numbers and you are at the max of that device so it will probably heat up slow.
Won't hurt to try though.

VapeSoGood · Nov 13, 2014

fq06 said:
28g 2.5mm coil 17 wraps for 1.5ohms.

Your device has a 11w limit but what about amps? 3? I didn't see that anywhere.
If its 3a you can build down to 1.3ohms... 14 wrap coil.
30g would be better to hit these numbers and you are at the max of that device so it will probably heat up slow.
Won't hurt to try though.

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Yeah I'm not sure on my amps either. as far as I have looked up online I can go 1.2 or 1.3 safe, But people been going to .08 however I don't really need it that low sense I vap a bit more and I want to save my battery. So i was looking for 1.5 to 1.8 ohms. I don't know extactaly the size of my screwdriver head I use. But 10 wraps gets me 1.8ohms on a 28 guage wire. This ohms law is very very new to me. I have not used much math besides adding and subtracting in 10 years.

But I do thank you very much for you're hasty responses. I am also having a few drinks with my wife. that is also hindering my chatting performances... ^_^

jovial_evil · Nov 15, 2014

fq06 said:
28g 2.5mm coil 17 wraps for 1.5ohms.

Your device has a 11w limit but what about amps? 3? I didn't see that anywhere.
If its 3a you can build down to 1.3ohms... 14 wrap coil.
30g (10 wrap) would be better to hit these numbers and you are at the max of that device so it will probably heat up slow.
Won't hurt to try though.

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Mvp 2.0 ,is 3-5v and 6-11w

fq06 · Nov 15, 2014

Ok, so that should allow down to about a 1.0 ohm build.
11 wrap 28g 2.5mm coil will hit about 1 ohm.

Worse case the mod wont fire it and you have to add a wrap till it does.

Giraut · Nov 15, 2014

And then when you have enough wraps to make the thing work, you'll realize it takes half a year to warm up when you press the button...

32-gauge kanthal, 5.5 wraps will get you 1.6 to 1.8 ohm. Forget 28 or 30 gauge with that device.

fq06 · Nov 15, 2014

Agree, found that out with my wifes provari. Had to go to 30g to get high resistance dual coils to heat up within an hour. Even then single coil just performs better on that low power vv.

InMyImage · Nov 15, 2014

I also have an MVP 2.0

In VV mode it puts out 3.3 - 5.0 volts settable in 0.1 volt increments
In VW mode it puts out 6.0 - 11.0 watts settable in 0.5 watt increments

As mentioned, the coil builder calculator at steam-engine.org is a great tool. You don't have to worry about the math, just plug in your wire type, type of coil (single, dual, etc), target resistance, size of your mandrel (drill bit, screw driver, etc.) and it tells you how many wraps you need per coil.

Check out this video to give some info on good Ohm targets for it. 1.5 - 2.0 Ohms is it's sweet spot.

InMyImage · Nov 15, 2014

And based on a single coil at 1.8 ohms using 28g, your screwdriver is 2.25 to 2.55 mm's

jovial_evil · Nov 15, 2014

Ok, I'm trying to do this, first one was a bust. Second one was wrong. Will try again.

InMyImage · Nov 15, 2014

Do you realize that you have that set for a 1 ohm build.

WharfRat1976 · Nov 16, 2014

Ur lowest ohm coil can be 1.6ohms on a dual setup. The MVP2 will not fire below .8ohms.

VH fan · Nov 16, 2014

I would very strongly avoid dual coils on the MVP , two reasons why . The first is running the MVP at 1.0 ohm's really stresses the hell out of it and WILL cut it's lifespan , this has been confirmed numerous times on another forum by a few members who did the same , both their MVP's died well before their time.

Secondly a single coil in the 1.5 and up range works fantastic on that device , 28 gauge duals will heat up way too slowly as pointed out . Get a more appropriate device if you intend to drip.

VapeSoGood · Nov 20, 2014

Yeah I built a 1.4 ohm coil worked fine, But I just stayed with a 2.0ohm coil found it seems to work the best for clouds on my iglo w plus and better battery life...

I also did a duel coil build at 2.4 ohms but that could't get hot enough before the battery turned off..

I now have a AR 15 mod coming in soon. So I'll do a real build for sub ohm warmer vaps on that.

But I do still very much enjoy my MVP2. Great device. Fun to drip on.

BoomStick · Nov 21, 2014

A proper multi coil dripper build on a mech will blow yer mind. Dripping on a device meant for clearomizers is kind of a joke. Stand by...

nogalesvape · Nov 21, 2014

It's a good device to nail down the basics of rebuilding because of the safeties on it but don't expect to win any cloud chasing competitions. on my mvp I find it does very well between 1.4 and 1.8 ohms

Giraut · Nov 21, 2014

Sub-15W devices are perfectly usable with rebuildable atomizers, provided the coil(s) and wicks are done well, and provided you're not after big clouds. I myself usually vape at around 10W with my RDAs (both single coils and dual coils), and I find the flavor very satisfying. Not to mention, it's very economical in juice.

VH fan · Nov 21, 2014

BoomStick said:
A proper multi coil dripper build on a mech will blow yer mind. Dripping on a device meant for clearomizers is kind of a joke. Stand by...

It was built to work well with the vast majority of tanks/clearo's that the majority of vapor's (especially people just getting into the game) use on a daily basis .

It's perfect and hits the mark on all fronts for that.

nogalesvape said:
It's a good device to nail down the basics of rebuilding because of the safeties on it but don't expect to win any cloud chasing competitions. on my mvp I find it does very well between 1.4 and 1.8 ohms

I love the MVP , and i agree 100% with the above comments, although i usually stay in the 1.5 - 2.4 range on it.

VapeSoGood · Nov 27, 2014

Got my Ar now and I'm liking it at .5ohms. But it really likes to eat my juice lol... I did get 2 efest 35amp batteries for pretty cheap on ebay, but one of my batteries really does not hold a good charge for long. My other battery does a good job and hits well on heavy use for most of the day.

As for the MVP dripping is very nice the flavor over a tank is not comparable. Plus it don't eat as much juice as my dual coil on my new ar15. I'll never go back to a cheap tank again. If I do get another tank it will be the eleaf lemo drop.

Giraut · Nov 27, 2014

Actually VapSoGood, don't lose hope too quickly with cheap tanks: I too am addicted to dripping, but I'm vaping out of this new Joyetech Egrip thingy I bought the other day, and despite being a clearo with a pre-built head, it's surprisingly flavorful.

BigNasty · Nov 27, 2014

try a set of dual parallel coils in 34 ga. 8-10 wraps each will put you around 1.4-1.8 depending on diameter.

BoomStick · Nov 27, 2014

Use a known vendor for batteries and chargers. Not some dude on eBay with a garage full of black market bullshit. Avoid amazon too. Too many trusted vendors with decent prices.

JRW71 · Dec 1, 2014

I've done it on my MVP2 but it simply is too much for the box. You're really pushing the limits to run dual coil and at 11 watts the coils take forever to heat up, stressing the batteries.

I'd highly recommend you look into a higher wattage box when able to. I just got a IPV2 50 watt boxmod from Vaporrange.com and I'm finally able to begin playing with dual coil builds. The IPV2 has plenty of power to do all sorts of builds.

Perkidan · Dec 3, 2014

Ok, quick question. I am just getting in to the coil building/dripping thing. I have an MVP2 and Istick. I have a Little Smok RDA I am learning on. I was using the steam engine thing and playing around, and was wondering if you used a 3mm screwdriver to wrap 28 ga instead of a 2mm, will there be any difference in the performance of a 1.6 ohm coil. I am like a lot of the guys on here...old and blind. lol 3mm would be easier for me to see.

dre · Dec 3, 2014

It wicks better IMO above 2.4mm I get more dry hits with smaller diameters
Edit: this is about 18 watts at lower power I'd go with the 2mm with what your using i'd go 2.5mm max

compile · Dec 3, 2014

fq06 said:
1.5ohm 19 wrap on 2mm, or two 3ohm coils.
Play around with this
http://www.steam-engine.org/coil.asp?s=dp&r=1.5&awg=28&id=2&ll=4

Double the ohms, dual coil cuts it in half. So two 1.2ohm coils is a 0.6ohm dual coil.

Dual coils don't necessarily cut your resistance in half. It depends on whether you are running the two coils in series or parallel.

alwarren · Dec 3, 2014

compile said:
Dual coils don't necessarily cut your resistance in half. It depends on whether you are running the two coils in series or parallel.

Of course, a dual series coil is, for all practical purposes (vaping), just a single coil.

I've pretty much moved away from dual coils. My sweet spot seems to be about 7 wraps.

VapeSoGood · Dec 7, 2014

Giraut said:
Actually VapSoGood, don't lose hope too quickly with cheap tanks: I too am addicted to dripping, but I'm vaping out of this new Joyetech Egrip thingy I bought the other day, and despite being a clearo with a pre-built head, it's surprisingly flavorful.

Yeah, Now I might be looking into something that can give my favor and vapor as dripping, but can be a bit easier on my juices. I just ordered some juices from Vapewild. Great prives but out of 16 10ml I can only vape about 4 bottles of it. Pretty said... Maybe someone else would like them, they have great reviews but I think there juice is terrible all taste like cheap candy. Even the menthol taste like cigs... ewwww

Now I'm really doing my research into DIY Ejuice. My local shops here are 16 bucks with tax on a 30ML. They do make some really great juice but just getting $$$. I think I would love to make my own flavors and I'd know just whats going into my "sauce" ^_^

If anyone knows where I can get some good syrenge(s) for 100 VG nic and Some bigger plastic bottles to store my PG and VG pre-mixed that would be great. But I really do need to find some efficient syrenges for juice makeing. Thanks all have a good vapeday!

ButtKickers · Dec 7, 2014

Do yourself a favor, and buy some 32 gauge. itll actually heat up fast enough on your device in dual coil configuration to give you a satisfying vape at low wattage.

i have a fogger built with dual 32 gauge coils, at i believe 10 wraps. i use it on the vamo for my at work vape, and it works quite well. actually feels like im pushing more power than i am

VapeSoGood · Dec 7, 2014

ButtKickers said:
Do yourself a favor, and buy some 32 gauge. itll actually heat up fast enough on your device in dual coil configuration to give you a satisfying vape at low wattage.

i have a fogger built with dual 32 gauge coils, at i believe 10 wraps. i use it on the vamo for my at work vape, and it works quite well. actually feels like im pushing more power than i am

Now Im pushing 28G dual on Iglo W plus, AR clone at .625 ohms. Thinking of going to 1.0OHMs and trying that out.

VapeSoGood · Dec 7, 2014

JRW71 said:
I've done it on my MVP2 but it simply is too much for the box. You're really pushing the limits to run dual coil and at 11 watts the coils take forever to heat up, stressing the batteries.

I'd highly recommend you look into a higher wattage box when able to. I just got a IPV2 50 watt boxmod from Vaporrange.com and I'm finally able to begin playing with dual coil builds. The IPV2 has plenty of power to do all sorts of builds.

I kept my single coil on the iglo at 2.0 on my mvp worked great. Better on my juice and battery life than the mec mod. But I do enjoy the vapor and the faster heatup time on the mec mod.

VapeSoGood · Dec 7, 2014

alwarren said:
Of course, a dual series coil is, for all practical purposes (vaping), just a single coil.

I've pretty much moved away from dual coils. My sweet spot seems to be about 7 wraps.

Single on mec mod? what Guage? I only have 28 guage right now. From what I hear 26 or 24 seams nice for a mec...?? Was thinking on trying a higher ohm build on it with a single. I don't know possibilities are endless. ^_^

VapeSoGood · Dec 7, 2014

Perkidan said:
Ok, quick question. I am just getting in to the coil building/dripping thing. I have an MVP2 and Istick. I have a Little Smok RDA I am learning on. I was using the steam engine thing and playing around, and was wondering if you used a 3mm screwdriver to wrap 28 ga instead of a 2mm, will there be any difference in the performance of a 1.6 ohm coil. I am like a lot of the guys on here...old and blind. lol 3mm would be easier for me to see.

I don't even know what MM I use. I just started playing around with different sizes with my 28G and I found how many wraps and what not for what I have... Just use a OHM reader. ^_^

fq06 · Dec 7, 2014

Those juices may need to steep for a couple weeks from when you got them in the mail.

For DIY juice, grab some of these for flavors and smaller mixes
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0082...i=SL500_SR500,500&refRID=0DDEHWZCH5BDC7VRA6SR
and grab a 10ml & 5ml syringe from the place you are buying flavor or nic from. Throw in a few 30ml bottles to get mixing in.
Vapers tek nic, pg & vg is what I use.
http://www.vaperstek.org/
Tons of info on flavors and recipes in this forum.

VapeSoGood · Dec 7, 2014

fq06 said:
Those juices may need to steep for a couple weeks from when you got them in the mail.

For DIY juice, grab some of these for flavors and smaller mixes
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0082CMENY/ref=gp_aw_ybh_l_11?pi=SL500_SR500,500&refRID=0DDEHWZCH5BDC7VRA6SR
and grab a 10ml & 5ml syringe from the place you are buying flavor or nic from. Throw in a few 30ml bottles to get mixing in.
Vapers tek nic, pg & vg is what I use.
http://www.vaperstek.org/
Tons of info on flavors and recipes in this forum.

Yeah that's where I was gonnna order my nic from. Was gonna get a few plastic syringes for the pg and vg. 30ml bottles was what I was gonna do first. But I think I might do 15 mils just if it taste like sh!t. But If I keep it simple I don't think they can be unvapeable.....

As for the juice I know it might taste better after it steepes... but my local shop where I usualy buy makes it as ordered and I have never tasted any of these cheap candy like flavors in his juice. And if you can let hist hit 1 or 2 weeks it taste amazing.

fq06 · Dec 7, 2014

To start i would do 10ml batches, easy to mix with a nice even number and like you said, if it tastes like donkey piss you didn't waste too much.

You will use the 1ml syringes more than any other and the gradients wear off so you want more than a few especially if you are tackling a recipe that has many flavors in it. 50 will do you for a while and they are super cheap on that link.

fq06 · Dec 7, 2014

Like if you are going to mix two 5 flavor mixes you need 10. Plus 3 for nic, pg & vg. More is better and for $7 you can stoke a buddy out and get him started and still be left with a year supply

ButtKickers · Dec 8, 2014

VapeSoGood said:
Now Im pushing 28G dual on Iglo W plus, AR clone at .625 ohms. Thinking of going to 1.0OHMs and trying that out.

yea, try to keep the wattage under 25or so, because those 32 gauge coils will snap easily.

Build a 1.5 ohm Dual Coil with 28G wire

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