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MGA1

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Hi everyone my name is Mike from St. Augustine FL and I have been vaping on and off well it's seems forever
I am a heavy smoker and I've been unable to quit using my old ecigs
I figured it was time for an update since the ecigs don't really satisfy...Recently I purchased 2-Jomotech Lite 40s and Halo Torque 56/18 mg 100% VG it comes with 0.5 coil carts
So far the Lite 40 produces a lot of vapor compared to the ecig
But I don't really feel like I am getting the throat hit (I end up coughing)
And the draw on it is real easy with the Lite 40 and it produces a lot of vapor
But I can feel a real difference between ecig (the draw on that is a little tighter...if that is the correct term) but not as much vapor as compared to the Lite 40
I am trying to replace smoking and I think I can if I can only get the right eliquid and I guess the right device
Thanks
 

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Hi Mike! :cheers:
Have you tried different VG/PG ratios? VG is very smooth and a bit sweet. PG on the other hand carries flavour a tad better, but more importantly it contributes to throat hit. During my first couple of weeks after quitting smoking I found a 50/50 ratio to work quite well.
Can't say anything about the devices you've got and how they compare to other options.
 

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Welcome aboard Mike might well be worth dropping a thread in the forum see if others can chime in for you as well my transition experience was different to yours so I won’t be much help I’m afraid :(
 

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Hi everyone my name is Mike from St. Augustine FL and I have been vaping on and off well it's seems forever
I am a heavy smoker and I've been unable to quit using my old ecigs
I figured it was time for an update since the ecigs don't really satisfy...Recently I purchased 2-Jomotech Lite 40s and Halo Torque 56/18 mg 100% VG it comes with 0.5 coil carts
So far the Lite 40 produces a lot of vapor compared to the ecig
But I don't really feel like I am getting the throat hit (I end up coughing)
And the draw on it is real easy with the Lite 40 and it produces a lot of vapor
But I can feel a real difference between ecig (the draw on that is a little tighter...if that is the correct term) but not as much vapor as compared to the Lite 40
I am trying to replace smoking and I think I can if I can only get the right eliquid and I guess the right device
Thanks

You're in the right place, welcome! Do you want something with tighter air, something similar to a cigarette, or do you want to keep lots of air? Or something in between? Have you tried tobacco flavor juices, fruity, and sweet flavors? Also coffee flavors, lots of choices!

Do you enjoy seeing billowy clouds, or do you want a good stout sensation in your throat?
 

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Welcome aboard Mike might well be worth dropping a thread in the forum see if others can chime in for you as well my transition experience was different to yours so I won’t be much help I’m afraid :(
Thanks
 

MGA1

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You're in the right place, welcome! Do you want something with tighter air, something similar to a cigarette, or do you want to keep lots of air? Or something in between? Have you tried tobacco flavor juices, fruity, and sweet flavors? Also coffee flavors, lots of choices!

Do you enjoy seeing billowy clouds, or do you want a good stout sensation in your throat?


Let's see I guess I would want something close to cigarette since I am still a smoker (hopefully I will eventually quit!) I tried lots of flavors in the past mixing my own with VG juice but nothing stands out
Right I kinda fed up because last night I was trying some the flavors of ready made ejuice:mango and java flavors
But something's missing?
The problem is there are so many choices in ecigs,mods and eliquid out there---what I want do is Keep it simple!
On my above post it says what I got as far as gear I will post a picture
I really would like to work with that!
 

MGA1

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Thanks Meg and here a couple photo of what I recently bought
2- Jomotech Lite 40 box mods
It has a .5 ohm cart and its 40 watts no adjustment
 

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Welcome:wave:
Squonk mods use a rebuildable atomizer with a hollow positive pin and a squeezable juice bottle directly under it inside the mod. The purpose is using an RDA without having to drip.
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Hmm what's an RDA
Rebuildable dripping atomizer, instead of a tank you have a base with screws to install coils you build yourself and wick it by pulling cotton through and is covered by a cap with adjustable airflow holes. You saturate the cotton by dripping liquid or by squeezing the bottle in the case of a squonker.
May sound complicated but really isn’t, lots of tutorials on YouTube. Benefits include better flavor and never buying prebuilt coils ever again. For the price of some single prebuilt coils you can buy a whole spool of wire that could make countless coils. Also when a coil starts tasting bad you can remove the cotton, dry burn off the gunk rewick with clean cotton and is good as new several times.

A great affordable single coil RDA I would recommend to anyone is the wasp nano, around 11$ (Pictured above on the mod). There are several other great ones available, but that’s one of the best authentics for the $.
 

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Hi everyone my name is Mike from St. Augustine FL and I have been vaping on and off well it's seems forever
I am a heavy smoker and I've been unable to quit using my old ecigs
I figured it was time for an update since the ecigs don't really satisfy...Recently I purchased 2-Jomotech Lite 40s and Halo Torque 56/18 mg 100% VG it comes with 0.5 coil carts
So far the Lite 40 produces a lot of vapor compared to the ecig
But I don't really feel like I am getting the throat hit (I end up coughing)
And the draw on it is real easy with the Lite 40 and it produces a lot of vapor
But I can feel a real difference between ecig (the draw on that is a little tighter...if that is the correct term) but not as much vapor as compared to the Lite 40
I am trying to replace smoking and I think I can if I can only get the right eliquid and I guess the right device
Thanks

It seems to be true for a lot of us, not to set some impossible-to-achieve goal, like "quitting smoking." I had no desire to do that whatsoever, I just wanted something to use indoors to keep from freezing my ass off on the porch. It was only after I discovered what a great substitute vaping really is, that I started thinking that maybe I could quit smoking completely.

But, I didn't try to setup something entirely unrealistic -- having tried many times before to quit, cold turkey and with the patch, I knew how improbable it really was. So I just started trying to substitute vaping, anytime I felt the urge to run outside and smoke. If I vaped for 10 mins and still wanted the smoke, then I'd go have it -- and then I'd make a tally-mark for each actual cigarette I smoked daily, and the next day, I would try to smoke fewer, or at least, not more.

There were quite a few days where I smoked the same as the day before -- but, utterly surprising to me, within 3 wks I got down to just 1 cigarette each day -- that first one in the morning. That one was hard to do without, even with trying to vape for a while first. But then I realized, half-asleep, I was trying to vape the same way I smoked -- fast, hard, deep draws... which really doesn't deliver much nicotine to a body that really wants it, first thing in the morning. After I realized this, the next morning, I vaped SLOOOOOOWLY... long, slow draws, letting the vapor linger in mouth, throat, and nose on the exhale... and within 15 minutes, I had absorbed so much nicotine I got the sharp belly-pains... and sure didn't want a cigarette. That was my very first smoke-free day.

The main key is.... don't try to be a hardass to yourself about smoking, because it just won't work. It will cause stress, which will just make you want to smoke MORE. Treat it more like a game, like fun and pleasure.... Keep smoking, but try to substitute vaping for smoking anytime you can -- or if you can't, don't sweat it; just try again next time.

This really does work... I smoked for 39 yrs, and anytime I was asked when I was going to quit smoking, my answer was "NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!" In July, I will be smoke-free for 4 yrs. :)

Andria
 

MGA1

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Thanks Cactus for the info on sqonking...very intesting
Andria--thanks so much for your honest comments I will try to do like you say...I am in the same boat as far as smoking cigarettes about 38 years and believe me I am a former nicotine patch, nicotine gum, Chantix, ecig user etc! quitter!
Except I never a quit...so I thought I give it a try. I must admit your comments are refreshing!
Congrats to u for quitting!
Mike
 

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Thanks Cactus for the info on sqonking...very intesting
Andria--thanks so much for your honest comments I will try to do like you say...I am in the same boat as far as smoking cigarettes about 38 years and believe me I am a former nicotine patch, nicotine gum, Chantix, ecig user etc! quitter!
Except I never a quit...so I thought I give it a try. I must admit your comments are refreshing!
Congrats to u for quitting!
Mike

Well, it's different for everyone, of course -- some folks apparently quit just by walking by a vape shop. :D But there are some of us whose habits are really stubborn, who really need to prove it to themselves. Some take a month, some take years.... The main thing is, as long as you're still trying, still vaping, you're NOT a failure -- you're moving in the right direction -- some just take a little longer to get there. If you just keep vaping, eventually you'll get there too; one reason is that continued vaping starts making cigarettes taste like a nasty brushfire, then the cindery aftermath of a nasty brushfire, etc. And of course, vaping is MUCH cheaper than smoking -- pay no mind to those infected with "shinyitis" who seem to have zero self-control when it comes to acquiring vape gear -- you do need a good base of mods and atomizers, just so that no matter what, you have something to vape (vape gear is terribly prone to "shit happens"), but you don't have to end up looking like you're running a vape shop. :D

Vaping is harm reduction, not harm elimination. While it's true that there really is no safe level of smoking, if you're continually smoking less and less, then you're reducing harm, so vaping is already working in the way it's supposed to. Also, you might run into this or that physical problem with vaping -- none of them as serious as the problems that are all too likely with smoking, but which will need to be addressed so you can keep vaping comfortably -- the PG/VG ratio is a biggie, and everyone is different on what suits their body; the nic level -- again, all are different, and it doesn't seem to have much to do with how long you smoked, though the strength of the cigarettes you smoked might be pertinent to what nic level you find comfortable.

Taste is another huge issue -- personally, I had to find something that was at least similar to the taste of the cigarettes I smoked; everyone said that was impossible, but I discovered it's not -- it's difficult, certainly, just because vapor isn't smoke so there's none of the bitterness of cigarette smoke, but I did find a Virginia flavor that was close enough to Virginia Slims that I sometimes kinda freaked myself out by vaping indoors -- then had to remind myself, doing THIS indoors was just fine. :D Or maybe you're one who wants or needs to get right away from the taste of cigarettes -- and if so, you're lucky, because that's a lot easier than trying to find a vape flavor that's anything like smoking.

But as I said, and I will tell anyone who wants to quit the same thing: go easy on yourself -- nearly 4 decades of smoking isn't gonna just fall away instantly, but if you just keep trying, you're doing it right; if ending up a non-smoker is what you really want, just keep reminding yourself of that, and making the effort -- without stressing about it -- and eventually, you WILL get there. :)

Andria
 

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I am a heavy smoker and I've been unable to quit using my old ecigs
- Recently I purchased 2-Jomotech Lite 40s and Halo Torque 56/18 mg 100% VG it comes with 0.5 coil carts
- So far the Lite 40 produces a lot of vapor compared to the ecig. I really would like to work with that!
- But I don't really feel like I am getting the throat hit (I end up coughing)
- And the draw on it is real easy with the Lite 40 and it produces a lot of vapor
- But I can feel a real difference between ecig (the draw on that is a little tighter...if that is the correct term) but not as much vapor as compared to the Lite 40.
Welcome to VU MGA :wave:
As a former 41yr smoker that tried like you, chantix twice, patches twice, gum, prescriptions from doc, cigalike, etc over the years,,I smoked about 45 cigs the first to weeks after setting myself up to vape - and none since. I have a couple questions and suggestions that may help, but I don't want to mucky up your welcome thread :cheers:
 

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Go ahead and make suggestions and ask questions...I am trying get as much info as possible...Thanks Mike
 

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Welcome aboard Mike might well be worth dropping a thread in the forum see if others can chime in for you as well my transition experience was different to yours so I won’t be much help I’m afraid :(
If you start new thread in a different category from this one more ppl will see it and help with their suggestions and ideas as well. The more the merrier :idea:
Help I have questions! would be good. More members will see it there.
 

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Hi Mike from St. Augustine FL. DH and I are coming to Florida for vacation next week. I can hardly wait.

I've only just joined the forum today. But have been vaping for nearly 9 years now and have been through lots of devices and it's been a real learning experience. I kicked cigs for good the first day I bought a vaping device, but was very motivated to do so.

Throat hit - an earlier response in this thread referred to the mix of pg to vg being very important for TH. Higher PG produces a little less vapor but more TH. I'd recommend 50/50 or 70/30 PG/VG to approximate the TH of an analog cigarette.

Your tank - sub-ohm tanks, with which I have very limited experience, just do not produce the same kind of hit as a cigarette. The ones I have used, well, it's about like having dessert. Everyone here will probably laugh at me for saying this, but I think a good starting point for you would be an Aspire Vivi Nova (e-bay, about 10 bucks) with Aspire BVC coils at 1.6 or 1.8 ohms. The Vivi Nova holds about 4 ml of juice so you don't have to fill it up every time you turn around.

I'd run the Vivi Nova on a box mod at no more than 12 or 13 watts. That will give you about 4.5 volts, which keeps you beneath the threshold of power that would burn up the coils.

Prime your coils with just about 3 drops of juice into the coil itself before you put it into the tank. Then fill the tank and let it sit for 5-10 minutes before you use it. Don't inhale the first five or six draws - let it burn off machine oil and other nasties that might be down in the coil where you can't see.

Lastly, try to find a juice that isn't so sweet (which isn't easy these days). I am an old-time smoker, and find myself liking spicy flavors like cinnamon, or fruit with menthol added to it to cut the sweetness. I think I might even like a tobacco flavor with a few drops of cinnamon just for kicks.

Good luck with it. Keep trying. You'll get there, and you'll be ever so glad you did.

Jane

ETA: I just saw that the wattage on your mod isn't adjustable. 40w makes my tank suggestion invalid. At 40w, you're pretty much stuck with sub-ohm coils or builds that you do yourself on a dripper (RDA). Just my opinion, but I don't think you'll get where you want to be with that mod. Smokers generally want to do mouth-to-lung vaping, drawing on the vape the way you'd draw on a cigarette, at least at first. Sub-ohm tanks are designed for direct-to-lung vaping, which just isn't the same. If you try to draw on a sub-ohm tank the way you'd draw on a cigarette, I'd be surprised if the vapor didn't burn the mess out of you. I know it did for me.
 
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MGA1

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Sorry about all the questions its like beating a dead horse--getting to me!
I am still somewhat confused as far as gear I have 3- Jomotech Lite 40s and I would like to use them
I trying to keep it simple!
Maybe when someone mentions a mod and set up they could say exactly what product their using?
I had a stroke a couple of years ago and cognitive skills are somewhat diminished!
Again thank you all for your comments they are greatly appreciated and please keep them coming!
 

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