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Ryan57348

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Okay so i’m a VERY worrisome person, and all these new studies are kind of freaking me out. Like the one about lead in vaping. Or the one about damaging dna. I quit smoking to cut the risks of smoking related illness . Like heart attack etc... also saw something saying if you smoke and vape your doing more damage then smoking cigarettes. Now, sorry if i’m annoying but I just want some opinions to clear my mind on the subject. I understand no one on here is doctors but still. I know of farsalinos work as well. Just not trying to go beck to smoking.


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Don't worry about it. Most of those "studies" are propaganda funded by either big tobacco or big pharma. Is vaping 100% safe? No. Is it 95% safer than smoking? Yes.

For instance: The latest one I read stated that people who used to smoke, but now vape, are at a higher risk of having a heart attack than those still smoke cigarettes only. Do you know what this "fact" is based on? They surveyed both 1) smokers and 2) vapers who have quit smoking, and asked if they've EVER had a heart attack, before, during or after vaping. So, those who had a heart attack before they started to vape are included in these statistics. There are many people (myself included) who started vaping because they had a heart attack and needed a way to quit smoking. If I hadn't started vaping, There's is a VERY HIGH risk that I would have had another heart attack if I were to have continued smoking. There is obviously a much higher percentage of vapers that have had a heart attack before they started vaping.
 

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Vaping is infinitely safer than smoking. That doesn't make it 100% safe, but nothing is.
You could be walking down a sidewalk, trip over an uneven lip and crack your head open and bleed to death. This is about the risk of anything. Uncertain and not guaranteed.

If you look at all of the ingredients in everything individually they are mostly harmless or benign even in high doses. Nicotine as a substance is considered "generally safe" aside from the addictive part.

We are all more likely to die from having cell phones in our pockets, wireless access points everywhere and from crap non-nutritive food than anything. Deodorant with aluminum is more dangerous than vaping.
 

Ryan57348

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Don't worry about it. Most of those "studies" are propaganda funded by either big tobacco or big pharma. Is vaping 100% safe? No. Is it 95% safer than smoking? Yes.

For instance: The latest one I read stated that people who used to smoke, but now vape, are at a higher risk of having a heart attack than those still smoke cigarettes only. Do you know what this "fact" is based on? They surveyed both 1) smokers and 2) vapers who have quit smoking, and asked if they've EVER had a heart attack, before, during or after vaping. So, those who had a heart attack before they started to vape are included in these statistics. There are many people (myself included) who started vaping because they had a heart attack and needed a way to quit smoking. If I hadn't started vaping, There's is a VERY HIGH risk that I would have had another heart attack if I were to have continued smoking. There is obviously a much higher percentage of vapers that have had a heart attack before they started vaping.

Yeah I get where you are coming from. I’m just worried cause I haven’t kicked smoking yet i’m smoking like 4-5 American spirits a day and vaping.


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That's perfectly fine. We've all been there. It took me quite a while to transition completely from cigarettes to vaping.
 

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Make someone a bet you can't pay if you lose and use that as your incentive to quit the stinkies.
 

Ryan57348

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Make someone a bet you can't pay if you lose and use that as your incentive to quit the stinkies.

That’s actually a great idea lol. I have two cigs left and then i’m going to attempt to cut them out completely .


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Keep in mind that worrying is exactly what the propaganda machine wants you to do. Ignore it.

Research quality juices, wire and stick with rebuildable attys. Quality vape wire/coils has no lead and is easy enough to find as well as inexpensive. This way you know exactly what you're vaping.
 

Ryan57348

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I cake naked 100 menthol, I trust their juice so i’m not worried about that. I also use a uwell valaryan , I hope there’s no lead in their Coils.


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Ryan57348

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I cake naked 100 menthol, I trust their juice so i’m not worried about that. I also use a uwell valaryan , I hope there’s no lead in their Coils.


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I cake naked 100 menthol, I trust their juice so i’m not worried about that. I also use a uwell valaryan , I hope there’s no lead in their Coils.


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I've never heard of lead in any coil - most factory coils are SS
 

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There is tons of junk science being peddled by big Pharma, tons.

For the actual legitimate peer reviewed science look at the UK's national health site. The UK is pro vaping for they have national healthcare so it's profitable for them to have a healthy population.

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Let's not forget individual states allowing this propaganda to be spewed. They're losing craploads of money due to tobacco bonds that they can't pay for due to vaping decreasing tobacco usage. It really is about the money. They would much rather have you smoke than vape, so that their prospective residuals from big tobacco will increase. The decrease in expected tobacco revenue is extremely high. They don't give a fucking shit about your health, as long as they can get money in exchange for it. Quite literally.
 

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There is more lead in your drinking water than anything you can vape. More dangerous chemicals in ppm from pollution than what you can reasonably vape. More toxins/dyes and poison chemicals in your shampoo, toothpaste, water bottles and air fresheners. Your food and cleaning supplies is more likely to kill you than vaping. Kissing strangers on the mouth is more dangerous than vaping if you live in a population dense city.
 

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