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bilbs84

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Hi, fairly new to the vaping scene, and have starting mixing my own juice. I have 250ml of 100mg nic, and was thinking about transferring it into smaller (30ml) glass vials. Both for reducing the quantity that is open while I'm mixing, and for preservation benefits of not having a small amount left in a large bottle.

My question is, do you really think there is any benefit to this, and if so, what is my best way to actually transfer it into smaller bottles without spilling. Would a pipette long enough to reach the bottom of the bottle be the way to go?
 

lucifah

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There is a benefit, because you can stick the small bottles into a freezer until you actually need them. This extends the shelf life of nic, as it doesn't like warmth or light. On that note, if you fill it into smaller bottles, choose dark ones, not clear.
For the transfer? Pipettes might be a bit tedious. How about mini funnels such as these? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GHHROQC

Edit to add: Those funnels aren't good for 100% VG, but if your Nic is PG based, they work just fine.
 

bilbs84

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Thanks, that's kind of what I was thinking. I've just ordered a stack of 30ml amber vials, and a glass 10ml pipette. I know it may be tedious, but I figure it's probably one of the easier and safer methods to do it.
I also like the idea of only having 30mls open at a time as well once I'm done, I know that at 100mg/ml, any amount deserves maximum respect, but still peace of mind. Also picked up a few green and blue 100ml vials for steeping juice in too (figured it's a good idea to store juice and nic in totally different coloured containers to avoid the potential for confusion.
 

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Also picked up a few green and blue 100ml vials for steeping juice in too (figured it's a good idea to store juice and nic in totally different coloured containers to avoid the potential for confusion.

That's one good way of doing it. Another would be to label them. I have a little Dymo USB label printer, which allows me to print all the stuff I need and stick it on the bottles. Comes in handy when you have recipe variations as you can print smaller than you can handwrite and don't need to keep extra lists with more detail :)
 

Thetopdog0

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Gloves, protect workspace and take your time did this myself when I bulk brought nic due to lawchange in the UK and as suggested freeze the spare fridge the current bottle, fridge the new bottle when you change aswell. label it I think I put vape and die on mine good luck :)
 

bilbs84

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That's one good way of doing it. Another would be to label them. I have a little Dymo USB label printer, which allows me to print all the stuff I need and stick it on the bottles. Comes in handy when you have recipe variations as you can print smaller than you can handwrite and don't need to keep extra lists with more detail :)
I use some clear stickers and a laser printer to print up some labels for my vape juice, so I know the mix date, flavours used and strength so I can keep track of flavour as it steeps, will also be doing the same for the nic bottles as well.
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AndriaD

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Agree with a) smaller bottles, for the reasons mentioned, b) freezer storage, and definitely c) labelling -- I always label my nic with 100mg, 100% PG, and date it was stored -- if you end up with lots of little bottles with varying ratios of PG/VG, you'll be glad to know which is which (I have a few that are 50/50, which my son uses, since he uses a lot more VG than I do), and definitely glad to know the date you stored it, so you can get an idea of "shelf life" in the freezer -- I'm using from some bottles I stored in 2014, and when first opened, they're still as clear as the day I stored them, but I'm glad I used 30ml bottles, because towards the end of the bottle, I start to see a little yellowing -- from having the bottle opened every time I mix juice, and probably also from fridge rather than freezer storage for the open bottle.

Andria
 

lucifah

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I use some clear stickers and a laser printer to print up some labels for my vape juice, so I know the mix date, flavours used and strength so I can keep track of flavour as it steeps, will also be doing the same for the nic bottles as well.
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Oh that looks neat! Can you recommend clear labels for laser printers?
 

Jim_MDP

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re: pouring nic...

I'm hesitant to post because there's so much fearmongering on the topic.
Common sense and a steady hand will see you through.

If you've got those... just pour away.

Eye protection is a priority (I'm a-sceered about my eyes. ;) ) , gloves are nice too but not mandatory, with care.

Use a saucer (extra clean and dry, no soap residue) and remember how viscous liquids pour (need to adjust your aim).

Work at a sink, wipe the neck then cap, and wash the outside of the target bottles.
Then pipette up what collects in the saucer. :D
(I've never done a major bottle swap... all my purchases are sized to last a year or so and opened once every 4-6 weeks. That's good enough for me.)


I just did a 400ml batch of base yesterday using my 200mg nic... no gloves. Though I probably would have broken out a pair for multiple small mouth target bottles (VG no likee funnels and such... it could get messy. ).

Handle it with sober care, keep it away from kids and pets, and don't drink the stuff. That's all. :)
 

SteveS45

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While all good suggestions if it was me I would leave it right in the 250ML bottle because depending on how much Nicotine you mix and your being new to DIY it will be gone faster then you think and it will be time for more.
 

Jim_MDP

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While all good suggestions if it was me I would leave it right in the 250ML bottle because depending on how much Nicotine you mix and your being new to DIY it will be gone faster then you think and it will be time for more.
That's not bad... I missed that part in the OP.

My 100mgs are 250ml, which as I said last about a year for me (~10ml/day at ~5-6mg).

But now we'll get opinions (as my posts are) on how long is too long for an open nic bottle.
 

SteveS45

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That's not bad... I missed that part in the OP.

Exposure to air and light are the 2 main causes of Nicotine degradation so pouring it exposes it to air. I personally do not store my nicotine in a freezer just in a cool dark place, the cardboard box it comes in. Had a bottle more more than a year with no discernible difference in quality.
 

Jim_MDP

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Exposure to air and light are the 2 main causes of Nicotine degradation so pouring it exposes it to air. I personally do not store my nicotine in a freezer just in a cool dark place, the cardboard box it comes in. Had a bottle more more than a year with no discernible difference in quality.
Mine have spent most of their time in a fridge vs. the freezer (space constraints).

But I was semi "stockpiling" 2-3 years ago and getting best value sizing while sourcing from several brands.

I ended up with a couple three liters (way more than I expect to need on hand) and most all are the 250s. I just never had one last long enough to notice a degradation (opens were/are kept either chilled or on a cool interior bathroom counter).

I agree repeated air exposure would accelerate that. Besides laziness, that's the reason I make a batch of base every month and change. :)
 

SteveS45

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I remember a post from someone who stockpiled and forgot about a couple of gallons stored in a shed through a hot summer or more and they shocked everyone in the thread when there was no degradation reported even after being stored in an environment that some say will destroy the nicotine. What I have been doing has worked for me so I don't fix things that aren't broke.
 

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