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So, @Ishkabibble thinks this is yummy, so I figure I can share it. I’ve been vaping various variations of this for a few months now....I think it’s a good one. The only sub that might be necessary is the FA Custard Premium....I would go with INW Custard at the same percentage. And I have a TON of Custard Premium, so if you need one, pm me and I’ll send you one. :)

TFA Bavarian Cream 1%
FA Cookie 2%
VT Honeycomb 2%
Caps Sweet Cream 1%
FA Custard Premium 2.5%

Easy peasy. 1 week steep.

The Tahitian Edition...add 1.5% WF Tahitian Vanilla Cream. Thanks @Pegleg Meg for the idea. It’s steeping now.....

The Juicy edition.....add 1.5% FA Juicy Strawberry.

The Legendary edition.....add 2% of MB Legendary Custard. Similar to the Tahitian edition, but more custardy.
 
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wildgypsy70 said:
So, @Ishkabibble thinks this is yummy, so I figure I can share it. I’ve been vaping various variations of this for a few months now....I think it’s a good one. The only sub that might be necessary is the FA Custard Premium....I would go with INW Custard at the same percentage. And I have a TON of Custard Premium, so if you need one, pm me and I’ll send you one. :)

TFA Bavarian Cream 1%
FA Cookie 2%
VT Honeycomb 2%
Caps Sweet Cream 1%
FA Custard Premium 2.5%

Easy peasy. 1 week steep.
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It's delicious!! IMO the FA Custard Premium makes it what it is, so I would try hard to make sure you can use FA Custard Premium in this. INW Custard could work but the butter in the FA Custard Premium get along so well with the Honeycomb and the creams.

Well done!
 
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Ishkabibble said:
It's delicious!! IMO the FA Custard Premium makes it what it is, so I would try hard to make sure you can use FA Custard Premium in this. INW Custard could work but the butter in the FA Custard Premium get along so well with the Honeycomb and the creams.

Well done!
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True. Maybe add some FA or TFA butter, if you don’t have Custard Premium. To get the buttery love.....
 
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wildgypsy70 said:
So, @Ishkabibble thinks this is yummy, so I figure I can share it. I’ve been vaping various variations of this for a few months now....I think it’s a good one. The only sub that might be necessary is the FA Custard Premium....I would go with INW Custard at the same percentage. And I have a TON of Custard Premium, so if you need one, pm me and I’ll send you one. :)

TFA Bavarian Cream 1%
FA Cookie 2%
VT Honeycomb 2%
Caps Sweet Cream 1%
FA Custard Premium 2.5%

Easy peasy. 1 week steep.
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Thanks for sharing with us. Any sub for honeycomb? I am missing 1 flavor

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Elites said:
Thanks for sharing with us. Any sub for honeycomb? I am missing 1 flavor

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Well seeing you post here also tells me the vape gods are signaling to you to buy some VT Honeycomb :) I've been toying with it in a ton of shit, gotta have it in your arsenal.

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Elites said:
Thanks for sharing with us. Any sub for honeycomb? I am missing 1 flavor

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Argh! IMO, it’s integral to the recipe. I don’t know of any sub for it. It’s def a unique flavor and worth picking up. I’ve used it in a bunch of recipes.....so good!
 
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wildgypsy70 said:
So, @Ishkabibble thinks this is yummy, so I figure I can share it. I’ve been vaping various variations of this for a few months now....I think it’s a good one. The only sub that might be necessary is the FA Custard Premium....I would go with INW Custard at the same percentage. And I have a TON of Custard Premium, so if you need one, pm me and I’ll send you one. :)

TFA Bavarian Cream 1%
FA Cookie 2%
VT Honeycomb 2%
Caps Sweet Cream 1%
FA Custard Premium 2.5%

Easy peasy. 1 week steep.
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Thank you!!! I'm gonna have sub a couple, but got the Honeycomb and the Custard Premium of course :D
 
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Thank you!!! I'm gonna have sub a couple, but got the Honeycomb and the Custard Premium of course :D
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Wow, those are the ones that most people are missing! It's okay, I never had Bavarian Cream or Sweet Cream until @wildgypsy70 shared this with me, so now I've been toying with them :D Probably because I've finally decided the whole diketone concern is one I'm not really concerning myself with so much anymore.
 
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I put Bavarian in a ton of stuff....it’s really versatile. Sweet cream as well. Nice, sweet mellowing agent. I have at least 90 mls of both at all times. They just work with so much stuff!
 
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Ishkabibble said:
Wow, those are the ones that most people are missing! It's okay, I never had Bavarian Cream or Sweet Cream until @wildgypsy70 shared this with me, so now I've been toying with them :D Probably because I've finally decided the whole diketone concern is one I'm not really concerning myself with so much anymore.
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I never would have ordered VT Honeycomb I betcha, but BCF included it with an order when VT was new there :D same for Custard Premium, but @wildgypsy70 was serious about sharing hers lmao, I love it

I have FW Bavarian Cream that I'm allergic to, and just a smidge of CAP Sweet Cream left - I really need to order more Tahitian Vanilla Cream, I bet that would be okay in this
 
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Pegleg Meg said:
I never would have ordered VT Honeycomb I betcha, but BCF included it with an order when VT was new there :D same for Custard Premium, but @wildgypsy70 was serious about sharing hers lmao, I love it
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I only have FA Custard Premium because of @wildgypsy70 and so glad I do. She's a sweetheart! She must have cleared stock!
 
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Ishkabibble said:
I only have FA Custard Premium because of @wildgypsy70 and so glad I do. She's a sweetheart! She must have cleared stock!
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Lol! Not at the time....but it was out of stock for a week or two recently. The Chef’s flavors FB Page was blowing up. It’s finally back in stock.
 
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Pegleg Meg said:
I never would have ordered VT Honeycomb I betcha, but BCF included it with an order when VT was new there :D same for Custard Premium, but @wildgypsy70 was serious about sharing hers lmao, I love it

I have FW Bavarian Cream that I'm allergic to, and just a smidge of CAP Sweet Cream left - I really need to order more Tahitian Vanilla Cream, I bet that would be okay in this
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Oooooo.....I didn’t think of that one. I’ll bet it’s awesome with the premium!
 
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jr779 said:
Put in a nice size order from chefs yesterday. Also ordered the one shot of Welsh custard for the hell of it.

What’s another recipe that used fa custard premium.
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I’d def check ELR and ATF. I have some, but they’re still in the development stage. ;)
 
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The Tahitian edition is yummy! I think I prefer the original just a little more, but a great vape! Haven’t tried the Juicy edition yet....still steeping. Thinking of adding a coffee next.....
 
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wildgypsy70 said:
So, @Ishkabibble thinks this is yummy, so I figure I can share it. I’ve been vaping various variations of this for a few months now....I think it’s a good one. The only sub that might be necessary is the FA Custard Premium....I would go with INW Custard at the same percentage. And I have a TON of Custard Premium, so if you need one, pm me and I’ll send you one. :)

TFA Bavarian Cream 1%
FA Cookie 2%
VT Honeycomb 2%
Caps Sweet Cream 1%
FA Custard Premium 2.5%

Easy peasy. 1 week steep.

The Tahitian Edition...add 1.5% WF Tahitian Vanilla Cream. Thanks @Pegleg Meg for the idea. It’s steeping now.....

The Juicy edition.....add 1.5% FA Juicy Strawberry.
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Finally tried this after a 6 day steep. This is so good - huge kudos to you on this one!
 
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Partspro said:
I mixed this about a week ago but substituted INW Custard. Really nice. Will be mixing larger quantities of this. Thanks for sharing!
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Awesome! This is one of the very few I mix in large(for me) quantities. Happy you like it!
 
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LeanPipe said:
Holy crap, I bought the wrong custard lol.
I have caps butter.
Been using VTA avocado to mimic custard.
But this one is in my book now to make up!
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Oh no! FYI, you can only get Premium from the UK. Possibly elsewhere, but not in the states. FA Custard may work in this, but give it a lemony undertone. INW would be the sub, along with butter of some ilk. There are definitely plenty of recipes with FAa Custard, though!
 
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Do you have any idea why that is?
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Yep, we're being protected from ourselves by FA North America. If it wasn't for them, we'd mindlessly vape diketones. Thank the Lord we have so many thoughtful, kind, and selfless souls taking care of us. Otherwise we'd poison the lands and oceans, start wars and just generally behave really, really bad and then kill ourselves in the process.
 
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bobnat said:
Yep, we're being protected from ourselves by FA North America. If it wasn't for them, we'd mindlessly vape diketones. Thank the Lord we have so many thoughtful, kind, and selfless souls taking care of us. Otherwise we'd poison the lands and oceans, start wars and just generally behave really, really bad and then kill ourselves in the process.
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Lol! Yup. All of this.....
 
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bobnat said:
Yep, we're being protected from ourselves by FA North America. If it wasn't for them, we'd mindlessly vape diketones. Thank the Lord we have so many thoughtful, kind, and selfless souls taking care of us. Otherwise we'd poison the lands and oceans, start wars and just generally behave really, really bad and then kill ourselves in the process.
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I don't know how long you've been following this issue, but the diketone scare started with us vapers, long ago. Check out ECF circa 2010, 2011 and 2012, and the vapers take on this issue was vastly different from now. It was us vapers who put pressure on flavor manufacturers to remove diacetyl from their flavorings. This was way way before Dr. Farsalinos sounded alarms about diketones in ejuice. What flavor manufacturers did was to replace diacetyl with acetyl proponyiol, which later studies showed was almost identical to diacetyl in its chemical composition. Unlike most flavor manufacturers, Fa did not replace diacetyl with acetyl propyniol, but instead removed the flavors with diacetyl from their vaping line, and confined it to their kitchen line with a warning that remains to this day :

"This flavor contains Diacetyl and/or related diketones. Not suitable for vaping. For further details see diacetyl page in Vape Heaven section."

I'm not writing this to take a side for or against FANA, just to provide some perspective for those who haven't followed this issue that long. What FANA is doing, is making a business decision. Fa decided long ago to shift it's focus from food flavoring to vaping. According to an interview i saw from their owner, 90% of their sales is in the vape arena, and only 10% food. As such they are spending a lot of money doing research on different flavors and chemical compounds (not just diketones) and have been in discussions with the FDA for years, trying to gauge what the future of their industry would be in the U.S. They may be the only flavoring company catering to vapers that actually designs and manufactures their own flavors (maybe Hangsen does as well, i'm not sure). They've decided not to sell flavors containing diketones in the U.S. and as far as i'm concerned, it's their prerogative. I don't see it as anything personal against us DIY'ers. They're looking out for the future of their own company. Are they making the right decision? I don't know .... but i don't take it personally and i don't think of them as this evil conglomerate trying to take away our choices. Just my two cents:)
 
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wildgypsy70 said:
So, @Ishkabibble thinks this is yummy, so I figure I can share it. I’ve been vaping various variations of this for a few months now....I think it’s a good one. The only sub that might be necessary is the FA Custard Premium....I would go with INW Custard at the same percentage. And I have a TON of Custard Premium, so if you need one, pm me and I’ll send you one. :)

TFA Bavarian Cream 1%
FA Cookie 2%
VT Honeycomb 2%
Caps Sweet Cream 1%
FA Custard Premium 2.5%

Easy peasy. 1 week steep.

The Tahitian Edition...add 1.5% WF Tahitian Vanilla Cream. Thanks @Pegleg Meg for the idea. It’s steeping now.....

The Juicy edition.....add 1.5% FA Juicy Strawberry.
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I meant to order more Tahitian Vanilla cream, but I spent Allll my spare funds on a new RDA and 3,600ft of wire last night :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::slowclap:
 
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Mazinny said:
I don't know how long you've been following this issue, but the diketone scare started with us vapers, long ago. Check out ECF circa 2010, 2011 and 2012, and the vapers take on this issue was vastly different from now. It was us vapers who put pressure on flavor manufacturers to remove diacetyl from their flavorings. This was way way before Dr. Farsalinos sounded alarms about diketones in ejuice. What flavor manufacturers did was to replace diacetyl with acetyl proponyiol, which later studies showed was almost identical to diacetyl in its chemical composition. Unlike most flavor manufacturers, Fa did not replace diacetyl with acetyl propyniol, but instead removed the flavors with diacetyl from their vaping line, and confined it to their kitchen line with a warning that remains to this day :

"This flavor contains Diacetyl and/or related diketones. Not suitable for vaping. For further details see diacetyl page in Vape Heaven section."

I'm not writing this to take a side for or against FANA, just to provide some perspective for those who haven't followed this issue that long. What FANA is doing, is making a business decision. Fa decided long ago to shift it's focus from food flavoring to vaping. According to an interview i saw from their owner, 90% of their sales is in the vape arena, and only 10% food. As such they are spending a lot of money doing research on different flavors and chemical compounds (not just diketones) and have been in discussions with the FDA for years, trying to gauge what the future of their industry would be in the U.S. They've decided not to sell flavors containing diketones in the U.S. and as far as i'm concerned, it's their prerogative. I don't see it as anything personal against us DIY'ers. They're looking out for the future of their own company. Are their making the right decision ? I don't know .... but i don't take it personally and i don't think of them as this evil conglomerate trying to take away our choices. Just my two cents:)
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I know, I know.....just frustrating that we can’t get certain flavors in the states. It is their prerogative to sell what they want to who they want. I’m glad we still have access....via the UK or ordering from FA Italy directly. The FDA is squirrelly.....vaping is so terrible but cigs? Chemicals in foods? Food dyes? Sugar? All cool. Ugh.
 
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wildgypsy70 said:
I know, I know.....just frustrating that we can’t get certain flavors in the states. It is their prerogative to sell what they want to who they want. I’m glad we still have access....via the UK or ordering from FA Italy directly. The FDA is squirrelly.....vaping is so terrible but cigs? Chemicals in foods? Food dyes? Sugar? All cool. Ugh.
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Food Dyes have killed more people than vaping. Just sayin'
 
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Mazinny said:
I don't know how long you've been following this issue, but the diketone scare started with us vapers, long ago. Check out ECF circa 2010, 2011 and 2012, and the vapers take on this issue was vastly different from now. It was us vapers who put pressure on flavor manufacturers to remove diacetyl from their flavorings. This was way way before Dr. Farsalinos sounded alarms about diketones in ejuice. What flavor manufacturers did was to replace diacetyl with acetyl proponyiol, which later studies showed was almost identical to diacetyl in its chemical composition. Unlike most flavor manufacturers, Fa did not replace diacetyl with acetyl propyniol, but instead removed the flavors with diacetyl from their vaping line, and confined it to their kitchen line with a warning that remains to this day :

"This flavor contains Diacetyl and/or related diketones. Not suitable for vaping. For further details see diacetyl page in Vape Heaven section."

I'm not writing this to take a side for or against FANA, just to provide some perspective for those who haven't followed this issue that long. What FANA is doing, is making a business decision. Fa decided long ago to shift it's focus from food flavoring to vaping. According to an interview i saw from their owner, 90% of their sales is in the vape arena, and only 10% food. As such they are spending a lot of money doing research on different flavors and chemical compounds (not just diketones) and have been in discussions with the FDA for years, trying to gauge what the future of their industry would be in the U.S. They may be the only flavoring company catering to vapers that actually designs and manufactures their own flavors (maybe Hangsen does as well, i'm not sure). They've decided not to sell flavors containing diketones in the U.S. and as far as i'm concerned, it's their prerogative. I don't see it as anything personal against us DIY'ers. They're looking out for the future of their own company. Are they making the right decision? I don't know .... but i don't take it personally and i don't think of them as this evil conglomerate trying to take away our choices. Just my two cents:)
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I think it's commendable that companies addressed the concerns of their customers, but then that's their job. Having options is great, being denied them isn't. The fact that they'll sell those flavors elsewhere tells me that their motivation for not selling in the US is not to protect us but only themselves. As you pointed out, that's their right.

Has FANA ever publicly stated that they won't sell them in the US because they fear the gov't, or have they ever said it was to protect consumers? I'm curious, but not enough to look it up. As already pointed out, there are so many more deadly things being peddled to consumers that any attempt to sell such a decision as being to help us smells like bullshit. I do appreciate your post and sharing of information.
 
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bobnat said:
I think it's commendable that companies addressed the concerns of their customers, but then that's their job. Having options is great, being denied them isn't. The fact that they'll sell those flavors elsewhere tells me that their motivation for not selling in the US is not to protect us but only themselves. As you pointed out, that's their right.

Has FANA ever publicly stated that they won't sell them in the US because they fear the gov't, or have they ever said it was to protect consumers? I'm curious, but not enough to look it up. As already pointed out, there are so many more deadly things being peddled to consumers that any attempt to sell such a decision as being to help us smells like bullshit. I do appreciate your post and sharing of information.
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They’re afraid of the government.....Chefs flavors has Custard Premium and that is loaded with diketones. Period.
 
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bobnat said:
I think it's commendable that companies addressed the concerns of their customers, but then that's their job. Having options is great, being denied them isn't. The fact that they'll sell those flavors elsewhere tells me that their motivation for not selling in the US is not to protect us but only themselves. As you pointed out, that's their right.

Has FANA ever publicly stated that they won't sell them in the US because they fear the gov't, or have they ever said it was to protect consumers? I'm curious, but not enough to look it up. As already pointed out, there are so many more deadly things being peddled to consumers that any attempt to sell such a decision as being to help us smells like bullshit. I do appreciate your post and sharing of information.
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I don't know what FANA has said about their decision not to sell those flavors in the U.S. To be honest, i can't imagine it's a decision they made themselves. It's an important enough decision that i assume their parent company in Italy signed off on it. Logic dictates that their concern is the FDA. Otherwise they wouldn't sell it anywhere, although they're still covering their ass by having the disclaimers on their site. There has been a lot of heated discussion on this topic in their Facebook page, but i don't do Facebook.

I don't think they're concerned about the diy market. They don't want the resellers to sell them, because they will have no control over whether they will eventually end up in commercial juice. DIY Vapor supplies went over their head and ordered directly from Flavourart Italy, and they got caught. They were warned that if they do it again, they will be removed from being an official re-seller.

Concern over diketones was not even on the FDA's radar in the early days. There were dozens and dozens of threads on ECF in the early days, and the overwhelming majority of vapors wanted their presence disclosed. Some wanted them removed altogether. Some flavor companies lied about removing them, and were caught when the juice was independently tested. To this day some vapers (including myself) won't buy from Flavor West for this reason. Fa has always been the most transparent flavor company and the first to publish results of their tests, and have opened up their facilities and labs to the general public. i commend them for this, and won't bash them because of a business decision they've made. It was only when the FDA started talking about regulations that there was a seachange in the vapers opinions. For better or worst, we did not want to concede anything to the FDA.

Apologies to @wildgypsy70 if the thread is being hijacked :) I think discussion should return to her recipe!
 
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