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pdxvapes

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Wanted to get my post in relatively early!
Here's my first attempt at a centerpost build, I ended up running the coils as verticals so they would sit centered easier.

Dual 26 AWG wrapped 3/4 times around a 3/32nds drill bit in the IGO-W sitting at .21 ohms.
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I've been calling it the "69" coil!
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I seem to wick my Verticals a little different from what I've seen elsewhere, the tuft of wicking material that comes out of the top of my coils, then gets doubled back down to the deck between the centerpost and negative post of the corresponding coil.
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This creates a faux-two well system similar to the original Origin and the IGO-W7.

Pics to be edited in!

Edit - Got my photos put in the post!
 

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mike_getz

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.4 26g in the igo-w ...
 

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Just reworked my vertical coil a bit.

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Had to rewick it and clean 'er out, so decided to take off a wrap to bring it down to 1.5 instead of 1.8 ohms. Also, now it's a horizontal coil put through the holes and on the opposite side as before. Bedding is Tencel Nepps with a Cotton wick in the coil.

That Nepps really holds a ton of juice, but it is just little pieces of stuff, so not suited for putting through a coil. ;)
 

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Nothing to fancy, 0.72 7 wraps 36 gauge.
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pdxvapes

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Just as a quick aside, I can't seem to edit my previous post in this thread, and would like to clarify that it is actually wrapped 3 under and 4 over as opposed to 5/6 which I stated. I also left you without an Ohm reading, what bad etiquette that is, the vertical "69 build" sits at 0.21!

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Now on to my all day vape! This is a simple micro coil build in my Brass Monkee RDA, nothing fancy whatsoever, but I like to iTeo wick it usually. With 5/6 wraps of 26 AWG around a 3/32nds bit, ohms in at 0.25 for a juicy, warm vape.
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Despite being higher resistance than my other build, it's still a warmer vape because I did not center the build, and horizontal seems to run much hotter than verticals do.
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Here we are all wicked up for great airflow!
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This build is one of my earlier attempts at rebuilding, I want to tear it down at some point soon and try rebuilding it in line with the center-post for even better airflow and wicking. Thought I'd share it with you before it meets the can!
 

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22 ga. twisted in my drilled out IGO-w4 set it on my stingray it's hits like a truck.
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image.jpg Single nano tiger coil. 24g and 0.8 ribbon wire twisted. 0.38 ohms. It vapes well but goes dry really fast, nanos aren't really my thing. The one type of coil that I have the least experience with.
 

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Here is my Stillare twisted 30g @.6 ohms. I need to go lower ohms but I only have 10 amp batteries for the moment.DSCF0624.JPG
 

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image.jpg Quad coil sleeper on my Cats RDA. This is probably the most challenging build I've done yet, definitely not the best looking by far. I took two pieces of 26g and made two coils on each side. Wrapped my first, installed, then wrapped me second, then did the same on the other side. My old build on the Cats seemed to get me more hits per drop but the wicking cut off vapor production, but with this build having the coils sitting above the air holes the vapor production is top notch.
 
Hi all,
28 gauge Kanthal. Got it at 4.4 Ohm. Of the simpler variety. Experimenting now with new formations. The stuff all of you are putting together is just sheer genius. Happy Vaping!:)
 

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Dual 20g, 4 wrap on 3/64 drill bit vertical coils. Ohms out at 0.03.

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All my likes are belong to you! Tell me that TOBH is drilled out, because that's gotta vape pretty warm with the stock holes! All of my builds under 0.1 usually go on the zenith or the patriot so they can get plenty of air, or I'll swap the cap with my custom drilled TOBH. The TOBH has a slightly restricted draw with the stock holes, incredibly smooth for builds around 0.2 but anything lower than that tends to be a little too warm for me. My second TOBH has the holes cut out completely to where it's just a long oval shape on both sides and is great for super sub ohm stuff though.
 

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Lol, thanks for the likes bro! Yea, the Tobh is drilled out, and will be getting fully slotted in the morning. It gets a bit warm, but with this low of a build, it doesn't require a long hit to get the results you want.
 

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Hey! Looks good for a first attempt!
How do you like the set-up, is it overly warm?
hey pdxvapes, no this is not warm at all IMO. I will be experimenting will this setup at a lower ohm and see how that goes.
 

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hey pdxvapes, no this is not warm at all IMO. I will be experimenting will this setup at a lower ohm and see how that goes.
Not too surprised it isn't super hot at 1.0 ohm, love to hear how it goes a little lower!

Lol, thanks for the likes bro! Yea, the Tobh is drilled out, and will be getting fully slotted in the morning. It gets a bit warm, but with this low of a build, it doesn't require a long hit to get the results you want.
Sorry man, but that build absolutely terrifies me! What batteries are you running to achieve a comfortable 123+ amps of current? I just can't imagine you're really pulling 456 watts safely..
 

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I'm using MNKE and Sony 50 amp 26650s currently, just ordered my 60 amps, we'll see how those do.
 

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I'm using MNKE and Sony 50 amp 26650s currently, just ordered my 60 amps, we'll see how those do.
MNKE 26650's are rated at a 60A maximum pulse discharge, while the Sony VT's are rated for 56A, both are seriously under the Amp ceiling you're at. Actually, the amps you are pulling are more than twice what your batteries can comfortably handle.
I understand that with builds like this, folks only run completely fresh batteries for a very short period of time, I however don't understand how doubling your Amp limit can be safe.
 

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Once you factor in voltage drop under load, which is usually a lot more when your resistance is so low, and factor in the internal resistance of the battery that you are using it brings down the overall amperage. It's still extremely high on a build like that but because your voltage fluctuates so much, it's not as high as you'd think. I am in no way saying that this is completely safe to do (like with sub ohming in general) but as long as you're careful it doesn't have to be a disaster.
 

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I've been at the 0.3-0.2 load for a few weeks now, it's been okay so far, I just go thru batteries quickly lol
 

pdxvapes

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Once you factor in voltage drop under load, which is usually a lot more when your resistance is so low, and factor in the internal resistance of the battery that you are using it brings down the overall amperage. It's still extremely high on a build like that but because your voltage fluctuates so much, it's not as high as you'd think. I am in no way saying that this is completely safe to do (like with sub ohming in general) but as long as you're careful it doesn't have to be a disaster.
Thanks so very much for the clarification, I am still relatively new to rebuildables, and trying to be as safe as I possibly can be. What you've stated seems to be the logic behind absurd sub-ohm resistances, and I need to get more familiar with how to factor in the volt drop under load to perceive the "overall amperage."
I've been at the 0.3-0.2 load for a few weeks now, it's been okay so far, I just go thru batteries quickly lol
.03 and .3 are vastly different resistances..
 

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Sorry, that was a typo on my end, I meant 0.03-0.02. Also, my Hades only registers a 0.1v drop under load.
 

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Is that with a 1 ohm load or with a 0.03 load? Most tests are done with a 1 ohm load for consistency. Usually lower sub ohm builds can cause your voltage to fluctuate pretty rapidly.

It's crazy how voltage drop can be trivial with how well some mods perform regardless of how much it's dropped, yet the wattage and amperage of the current can change drastically with even a tenth of a volt or a tenth of an ohms difference, and in most cases you wouldn't even be able to tell. It's cool to know what's happening under the hood and what makes your mod do the things that it does.

/thread hijack, back to badass build photos!
 
Flat bastard coil.
24ga with .8 ribbon wrapped around it on a 3.0mm screwdriver. Don't remember what it ohmed out to.
 

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chris damron

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image.jpg Dual tigers on my new patriot. 24g spun with 0.9 ribbon wire, 5 wraps on a 3/32 bit. Comes out to 0.14 ohms. Figured it would take a sec to heat up but the gold center post on the patriot feels like it sparks up before I even press the button :]. Vaping Pineapple Express by Crossroads and this build makes it pop.
 
Thinking I should name this the steamroller coil.
20ga with .8 ribbon wrapped around.
Inner coil is on 1/8th drill bit, but after ribbon was added was a little bit smaller. This was one hot vape!
 

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This is awesome, can you elaborate on how you did the flat wire around the coil? Innovation!!!
 
This is awesome, can you elaborate on how you did the flat wire around the coil? Innovation!!!

I built the main coil like any other. Took the end of the ribbon and started it where the leg begins the first bend of the coil so it'd hold itself. Then just looped the ribbon in and out the coil til it was wrapped and ended the ribbon on the other side where the leg and the last bend completes the coil.
 

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That's easy enough. So no issues with hot spots or shorting?
 
Took 3 heating and cooling pulses to get it to even out on its own. No shorts at all. Great flavor but just a tad too much heat at the time for me. As soon as I get some more ribbon I'll build another with 22 or 24 duals.
 

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And here I am just loving the fact that I can build a working coil on my KFL+ and others as well:rolleyes:
 

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This is my very first coil ever. In fact tonight I rebuilt the igo L 1.5 ohm 30 ga on vamo v5 and two nautilus heads one at 1.5 ohm & one at 1.6 ohm 30 ga. I am so proud of myself. And I am a girl. I reckon I could be an electrician now.
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image.jpg Yet another tiger build on my APO and copper panzer. I love these coils! 22g and 0.9 ribbon wire.
 

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First build in this Tobh. .9 ohms 28ga wrapped on a medium mini screwdriver shaft. Does pretty good with long draws. Needs more vapor production, still working on that. Any suggestions without going below .6 ohms or getting too fancy?
 

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First build in this Tobh. .9 ohms 28ga wrapped on a medium mini screwdriver shaft. Does pretty good with long draws. Needs more vapor production, still working on that. Any suggestions without going below .6 ohms or getting too fancy?
Try 26g or 24g. You'll be able to compensate the higher resistance with more wraps by using thicker wire, which means more surface area will be covered.
 

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