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Severinomotta

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Hi you guys,

A few days ago i did a few clapton wires using ss 316l 24g core and ss 316l 30g wrap.

My drill broke in this weekend, and my second drill dont have speed adjust, its only one suuper fast speed to make holes in walls.

I try do make a 28g core wraped in 32 g (all SS 316L) with this full speed drill, but my core wire always break near the point of the drill once i pressed the trigger and that sh*t spins in full speed.

Any tips to make claptons with high gage wires? Or i'll really need to buy a new drill with speed control?

Thanks.

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SteveS45

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Or get a cheap foot pedal for speed control.

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Severinomotta said:
Hi you guys,

A few days ago i did a few clapton wires using ss 316l 24g core and ss 316l 30g wrap.

My drill break in this weekend, and my second drill dont have speed adjust, its only one suuper fast speed to make holes in walls.

I try do make a 28g core wraped in 32 g (all SS 316L) with this full speed drill, but my core wire always break near the point of the drill once i pressed the trigger and that sh*t spins in full speed.

Any tips to make claptons with high gage wires? Or i'll really need to buy a new drill with speed control?

Thanks.

Best.
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You do need to get a drill with speed control, but you can also put some tape around the core wire where it goes in the drill to help protect it
 
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Could always do the twisting by hand... no drill is actually required to make clapton wire.

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Sounds like swivels are not keeping up with the drill. Too much tension with a sticky swivel is doom. It only takes a fraction of a second with no swivel spin to snap wire. Lube your swivels, or replace them.
 
Severinomotta

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Branpro said:
Sounds like swivels are not keeping up with the drill. Too much tension with a sticky swivel is doom. It only takes a fraction of a second with no swivel spin to snap wire. Lube your swivels, or replace them.
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Yes. I guess this might had happen... I'll try to lub'em

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30g wrapping wire or even 32g sucks for wrapping wire. They will take lots of power and energy to ramp up plus really retain the heat. I'd recommend 36g, myself I'm usually between 38g - 40g.

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Spudeye said:
You could try the kids hamster in its running wheels
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Don't know if you just joking around in a nice way (although i think is a bad joke), or been disrespctful. If is the second option, please, don't do it. We have a nice community here and people help each other.

Wish the best for you.
 
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r055co said:
30g wrapping wire or even 32g sucks for wrapping wire. They will take lots of power and energy to ramp up plus really retain the heat. I'd recommend 36g, myself I'm usually between 38g - 40g.

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Thanks man, i'll try that. Just one question. Im using SS 316L. Do you think i can wrap with this gauge using SS?

Best.
 
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Severinomotta said:
Don't know if you just joking around in a nice way (although i think is a bad joke), or been disrespctful. If is the second option, please, don't do it. We have a nice community here and people help each other.

Wish the best for you.
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It was a joke think you need to give your head a wobble every one know you can't get the rpm love and peace.
 
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You are going to need a new drill.. Even if your wire didnt break, 28ga is so thin your next biggest problem will be with twisting the core wires.
You might consider the Daedalus coil building jig with table top drill. *don't buy the set without the drill*. It has a fitting for 28 ga wires included. Up to (I think) 5 strands. I can make coils by hand, but that coil jig is soooo sooo soooo much easier.

I've been using 32ga SS wire for wrapping since I started. It was only recently I went to 34ga. I like to be able to see what I am doing. lol. As far as ramp up and cool down.. it is mainly your core wires that affect this. SS is a heat sink. It absorbs and dissipates heat quite well, where as Kanthal and Nichrome offer more resistance which means more heat is generated by electrons moving through the wire *more friction, basically*. Yes, your coils will heat up slightly faster with higher ga wrapping wire, but not so much faster as to make a huge difference in your vape.
 
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Severinomotta said:
Hi you guys,

A few days ago i did a few clapton wires using ss 316l 24g core and ss 316l 30g wrap.

My drill broke in this weekend, and my second drill dont have speed adjust, its only one suuper fast speed to make holes in walls.

I try do make a 28g core wraped in 32 g (all SS 316L) with this full speed drill, but my core wire always break near the point of the drill once i pressed the trigger and that sh*t spins in full speed.

Any tips to make claptons with high gage wires? Or i'll really need to buy a new drill with speed control?

Thanks.

Best.
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I use a Ryobi drill with an 18v battery. It has three joules.. is what I think they're called. Whether its a ribbon stack build or a round wire build I always put the cores of my builds in the center of the joules ("and nobody knows nothin" - Joey Diaz). I'm one of the builders in the builders corner. Among them I'm merely intermediate at best, but compared to the average person I would think that I'm advanced. I've claptoned 28g for decores many times and the core 28g wire has never broke. I'm just sharing what I use with you in case you want to give it a try. The only time a wire ever breaks is when I'm twisting the sh*t out of two or more wires for something like a stapled helix. I love my drill and I try to build with it every day. Ryobi drills are generally on the cheaper end of what drills cost but I find they make really great drills for building coils. One of the builders who is also gonna have good suggestions on this forum is @Pegleg Meg she's a pro so don't discount anything she says. Good luck my friend.:vino:
 
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Shredtravolta said:
I use a Ryobi drill with an 18v battery. It has three joules.. is what I think they're called. Whether its a ribbon stack build or a round wire build I always put the cores of my builds in the center of the joules ("and nobody knows nothin" - Joey Diaz). I'm one of the builders in the builders corner. Among them I'm merely intermediate at best, but compared to the average person I would think that I'm advanced. I've claptoned 28g for decores many times and the core 28g wire has never broke. I'm just sharing what I use with you in case you want to give it a try. The only time a wire ever breaks is when I'm twisting the sh*t out of two or more wires for something like a stapled helix. I love my drill and I try to build with it every day. Ryobi drills are generally on the cheaper end of what drills cost but I find they make really great drills for building coils. One of the builders who is also gonna have good suggestions on this forum is @Pegleg Meg she's a pro so don't discount anything she says. Good luck my friend.:vino:
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I'm definitely no expert, if there is such a thing, but I want to help for sure (thanks for the compliment)
 
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Severinomotta said:
Thanks man, i'll try that. Just one question. Im using SS 316L. Do you think i can wrap with this gauge using SS?

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Which gauges? SS is soft, but I've claptoned 30g SS as cores and used 40g SS as wrap wire with no special problems
 
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Pegleg Meg said:
Which gauges? SS is soft, but I've claptoned 30g SS as cores and used 40g SS as wrap wire with no special problems
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Nice, i'll buy a new drill monday, and try that. My tanks can't handle too massive coils, so i need this thin wires to get good ohms and no just only fit'em in my tank, but get'em in the right temp in correct time. The last SS clapton coil i did to use in my dual coil tank was huge (26 core + 30 wrap) and like 9 rounds (3mm) to got .4 ohm. But the rampage was too slow and once it get hot, it got actualy super hot, burning my juice and my cotton in few puffs...
 
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Severinomotta said:
Nice, i'll buy a new drill monday, and try that. My tanks can't handle too massive coils, so i need this thin wires to get good ohms and no just only fit'em in my tank, but get'em in the right temp in correct time. The last SS clapton coil i did to use in my dual coil tank was huge (26 core + 32 wrap) and like 9 rounds (3mm) to got .4 ohm. But the rampage was too slow and once it get hot, it got actualy super hot, burning my juice and my cotton in few puffs...
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Ooh try 29g SS, or loop one long piece of 29g in half around your swivels and the 2 ends in your (new, variable speed) drill, and clapton with 38 or 40 ...that will be a vape to end all vapes, and work in your TC mode


Doing one long piece looped in half to make 2 strands is also no harder than claptoning one strand, and the improvement in vape is huge
 
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Severinomotta said:
Nice, i'll buy a new drill monday, and try that. My tanks can't handle too massive coils, so i need this thin wires to get good ohms and no just only fit'em in my tank, but get'em in the right temp in correct time. The last SS clapton coil i did to use in my dual coil tank was huge (26 core + 30 wrap) and like 9 rounds (3mm) to got .4 ohm. But the rampage was too slow and once it get hot, it got actualy super hot, burning my juice and my cotton in few puffs...
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What tank you using sir
 
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Just read peglegs comments why not try a staggered fused claptons on 28g with spaced 34 wraps fused with 36g gives a real depth to the flavour for size
 
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Severinomotta said:
I'm using a Zeus Dual... And like Peg say, im really a begginer. Still on simple claptons till a get more confident to do other builds :)

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Fused Claptons are simple to make, easier than single core basic Claptons. All you need to start off is a good variable high speed drill and quality Ball Bearing Fishing Spinners.

Here's a good video that takes you through it, excellent place to start. After a few runs you'll get it and also with more experience you'll make tweaks to fit your own style.

 
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Honestly IV only been building less than a year and I know it is hard at first but it dose get better little tip for claptons take your wrap wire off spool and pinch inbeteewn finger and thumb close to the wire your wrapping but every one dose it differently I wrap my staggered stapel fused claptons by hand as find it easier but it takes a lot longer but success is 100% rather than 65%
 

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