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Folks, I could really use some help. I've been trying to make a good coconut cream pie off and on for several months, and today I found an 8ml bottle of it that was made back in April. I wasn't impressed with it fresh, but now, it's pretty good. It's just that there's no reason to have to wait 4 months on a bottle of juice.

FA Vanilla bourbon 0.5%
FA Coconut 3%
TFA DX Bavarian cream 1%
TFA Graham cracker clear 2%
FA Marshmallow 0.5%
TFA Vanilla swirl 1%

Somehow I've got to make it more of a shake n vape. My thoughts are to add 0.5 FA Walnut to boost the coconut, and replace FA Marshmallow with TFA Toasted marshmallow and raise the percentage to at least 1% to start with as it needs to be a tad sweeter and it needs that toasted coconut sprinkled on top. I might even add a little bit of LB Coconut milk as well.

Any ideas? Any suggestions will be appreciated.
 

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Sounds good, I dunno how to advise, but I agree about using TFA toasted marshmallow. It is really a toasty sweet, I am vaping it in a mix now.
If it was my recipe, I would try and boost the body and add some butter to the gc base and a rich cream to the filling. Depending on what you have on hand, but fa custard premium, maybe boost the vanilla swirl with another rich icecream. I have hangsen french vanilla icecream on the way for that reason. Not sure how thick coconut milk is, but I would definitely add it to boost the coconut taste. LB Vanilla bean icecream is another good one.
If you want to thicken without a real flavor, VTA avocado creme is good for adding creamy bulk without taste. I love coconut pies!
 

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Sounds good, I dunno how to advise, but I agree about using TFA toasted marshmallow. It is really a toasty sweet, I am vaping it in a mix now.
If it was my recipe, I would try and boost the body and add some butter to the gc base and a rich cream to the filling. Depending on what you have on hand, but fa custard premium, maybe boost the vanilla swirl with another rich icecream. I have hangsen french vanilla icecream on the way for that reason. Not sure how thick coconut milk is, but I would definitely add it to boost the coconut taste. LB Vanilla bean icecream is another good one.
If you want to thicken without a real flavor, VTA avocado creme is good for adding creamy bulk without taste. I love coconut pies!

Cool! Toasted marshmallow it is then. Thanks to the amazing @wildgypsy70 I do have fa custard premium. :) I'll try adding a drop and see what it does. I really need to get the hangsen french vanilla and the liquid barn ice cream. I've got caps and tfa vanilla bean ice cream. I'll try the caps first. Thank you for the suggestions.
 

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I don’t have notes with me at work but.....maybe FLV vanilla pudding and FLV sweet coconut with a touch of LB VIC for the pudding/custard. I’ll look up percentages when I get home.
 

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It's just that there's no reason to have to wait 4 months on a bottle of juice.

How do you know it took 4 months? Say you vaped it for a week and didn't like it so much so you put it away. Another week or two and it may have been good to you. So unless you were testing it here and there for the 4 month span, you can't be sure it took that long to taste good :)
 

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How do you know it took 4 months? Say you vaped it for a week and didn't like it so much so you put it away. Another week or two and it may have been good to you. So unless you were testing it here and there for the 4 month span, you can't be sure it took that long to taste good :)

True, but I don't even want to wait a week for it to be good. :)
 

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How do you know it took 4 months? Say you vaped it for a week and didn't like it so much so you put it away. Another week or two and it may have been good to you. So unless you were testing it here and there for the 4 month span, you can't be sure it took that long to taste good :)
Good point
 

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So I looked it up.....fresh03 has this shake and vape custard base. I haven’t tried it yet, but it looks like it would actually work.

LB VIC 4%
FLV Vanilla Pudding 0.5%

He uses it when he wants to have a quickie custard instead of the 2week steep that usually happens.

I also recommend WF Coconut Custard. Tastes just like the inside of a coconut cream pie.:)
 

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So I looked it up.....fresh03 has this shake and vape custard base. I haven’t tried it yet, but it looks like it would actually work.

LB VIC 4%
FLV Vanilla Pudding 0.5%

He uses it when he wants to have a quickie custard instead of the 2week steep that usually happens.

I also recommend WF Coconut Custard. Tastes just like the inside of a coconut cream pie.:)

Thanks a bunch. I'll put the WF coconut custard on my list. I called myself doing a proper search for something like that a couple of times and just missed it.
 

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Ok, I hear that. I was thinking I read in hic's notes that a touch of walnut boosted the coconut, but I'll try a little bit on the side and see if I get butter from it. My taste is so twisted I never know what I'm gonna get, to be honest. :)
Granted, I can only speak from my own experience. I made an Italian Wedding Cake a few years back, and loved it, then all I tasted was pure butter. It was.... nuts :giggle::giggle:. Just one of those strange happenings with DIY stuff.

If HIC suggested boosting coconut, I'd stick with HIC's opinion. HIC's the master of all things DIY IMO.
 

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I recently got TFA Coconut Candy along with a few more. I like it a lot. I'm no coconut expert but I know it tastes really good.

FAs Coconut doesn't really float my boat. But I heard it can do some neat tricks when used as an additive.

I got FLV Sweet Coconut today. I'll be trying it pretty soon. A bunch of Redditors say it's the best but we'll see...
 

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True, but I don't even want to wait a week for it to be good. :)

I have never waited more than a week for the final product and one time I forgot about some Lava Cake I made that was amazing and a few months later it was so strong I have to double the bases before it was even vapable. Just my experience and opinion you must NOT Forget.
 

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I recently got TFA Coconut Candy along with a few more. I like it a lot. I'm no coconut expert but I know it tastes really good.

FAs Coconut doesn't really float my boat. But I heard it can do some neat tricks when used as an additive.

I got FLV Sweet Coconut today. I'll be trying it pretty soon. A bunch of Redditors say it's the best but we'll see...
FLV doesn’t go suntan lotion on me, which I really like. And it’s super creamy, which I also like. FA coconut is like real coconut....not really sweet, buttery, a bit dry. Sweet coconut isn’t dry. It’s like that thick, sweet coconut that you use in Pina colada drinks. My other favorite is LB coconut milk. Not quite as rich as the others, has a bit of sweetness, thinner.
 

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Could your initial dislike of it maybe have been your taste buds not agreeing with it at that time for one reason or another? If I vape super dense or overly sweet custards and try to go to something else, there are times it does not fly immediately. I have to warm up to it. I have ruined perfectly good recipes trying to dial them one way or another and my tasters were just tricking me.
 

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My favorite coconuts are (WF) coconut custard, (LB) coconut milk, (FLV)sweet coconut but I don't have it long enough to be able to say if it's a main note/flavor, currently testing it as secondary and accent, (INW) coconut this is definitely not a stand alone or main note but decent as booster or accents. (JF) coconut.

I either pair them or even use all of them depending on recipe. I tried tpa, cap, fa and some others but didn't like them. None tasted like coconut of some kind to me, but rather artificial and chemically. I wish it would have tasted like Sun tan lotion, would of been more pleasant.

I do have (HS) French vanilla ice cream, but it has this extremely unpleasant musky note, that can't be masked with anything. No matter if used as low as 0.05 all the way to 1%. I hope you'll enjoy i t and might not find it as unpleasant as I do.

I love (LB) vanilla ice cream, it's easily mixed with anything and can be turned from a vanilla sauce all the way to full blown butter, depending on additives / enhancers.

I tried the pudding ice cream combo and while it's good, it's no where near a real thick custard, but definitely quick steeper and very versatile.

when I want a custard I use more then just one custard concentrate and that's where the problem comes in, too much and it's difficult to add anything else, too little and it tastes like (FA) custard that's watery with artificial vanilla nuances and 12kg of lemon zest because it was on sale that day lol. Custard take a long time to work on and to me the most frustrating recipe but also the most rewarding if it turns out good lol.
 
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My favorite coconuts are (WF) coconut custard, (LB) coconut milk, (FLV)sweet coconut but I don't have it long enough to be able to say if it's a main note/flavor, currently testing it as secondary and accent, (INW) coconut this is definitely not a stand alone or main note but decent as booster or accents. (JF) coconut.

I either pair them or even use all of them depending on recipe. I tried tpa, cap, fa and some others but didn't like them. None tasted like coconut of some kind to me, but rather artificial and chemically. I wish it would have tasted like Sun tan lotion, would of been more pleasant.

I do have (HS) French vanilla ice cream, but it has this extremely unpleasant musky note, that can't be masked with anything. No matter if used as low as 0.05 all the way to 1%. I hope you'll enjoy i t and might not find it as unpleasant as I do.

I love (LB) vanilla ice cream, it's easily mixed with anything and can be turned from a vanilla sauce all the way to full blown butter, depending on additives / enhancers.

I tried the pudding ice cream combo and while it's good, it's no where near a real thick custard, but definitely quick steeper and very versatile.

when I want a custard I use more then just one custard concentrate and that's where the problem comes in, too much and it's difficult to add anything else, too little and it tastes like (FA) custard that's watery with artificial vanilla nuances and 12kg of lemon zest because it was on sale that day lol. Custard take a long time to work on and to me the most frustrating recipe but also the most rewarding if it turns out good lol.
Yup. All my favorites, too! Haven’t had a lot of luck with the others. Sun tan lotion.....ick.....

And I do like HS FVIC quite a bit. I don’t get a musky taste from it? Guess it’s just a case of personal taste again! But LB is my absolute favorite ice cream by far. You’re definitely right about it’s versatility and smooth richness.

I haven’t tried the pudding ice cream combo yet.....inw is my go to if I want an almost snv custard. FA is def way too lemony(unless you’re making a lemon custard....tho it does steep out a bit). Custard is my favorite of all and I’m willing to wait to get that perfect vape. <3
 

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Could your initial dislike of it maybe have been your taste buds not agreeing with it at that time for one reason or another? If I vape super dense or overly sweet custards and try to go to something else, there are times it does not fly immediately. I have to warm up to it. I have ruined perfectly good recipes trying to dial them one way or another and my tasters were just tricking me.

It's altogether possible my taste buds were not agreeing as I was vaping straight menthol juice at the time. 3% FW menthol in an 80/20 mix. The coconut pie was one of the first things I tried to mix after I decided I wanted to try some flavors. Remembering back, it seems like the flavor was good, it was just way too weak. Like it needed twice the coconut and a ton of sweetness. I'll be back with an update. I managed to scrounge about 30mls of vg out of some empty bcf bottles so I'll try a couple of things real quick and see if it works.
 

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Ok, a little while ago I mixed this:

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Drop taste, it's good. Good strong coconut flavor and plenty sweet on the tongue. In the back of my mouth though, it's bitter as hell! Now the vanilla and the toasted coconut have quite a bit of alcohol so I'm hoping tomorrow it'll be settled down. I also need to put clean cotton in a dripper before I form too strong an opinion. I'll do that tomorrow. I don't feel like messing with it right now.

I'll report back after I get a chance to taste it tomorrow.
 

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It's altogether possible my taste buds were not agreeing as I was vaping straight menthol juice at the time. 3% FW menthol in an 80/20 mix. The coconut pie was one of the first things I tried to mix after I decided I wanted to try some flavors. Remembering back, it seems like the flavor was good, it was just way too weak. Like it needed twice the coconut and a ton of sweetness. I'll be back with an update. I managed to scrounge about 30mls of vg out of some empty bcf bottles so I'll try a couple of things real quick and see if it works.

As a longtime menthol smoker up until January of this year. I get where you are coming from on this one. I was vaping some strong menthols, and some of them would take the hard edge off of tequila and clear a head cold. Good luck on the mixing. Hope it tastes amazing.
 

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As a longtime menthol smoker up until January of this year. I get where you are coming from on this one. I was vaping some strong menthols, and some of them would take the hard edge off of tequila and clear a head cold. Good luck on the mixing. Hope it tastes amazing.

Thanks for the thought. I just tried it though and it doesn't impress. I'm about to think I just can't taste coconut vapor. The mix smells great, tastes pretty good in the finger test, but falls flat in the atty. Back to the drawing board! :(
 

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Thanks for the thought. I just tried it though and it doesn't impress. I'm about to think I just can't taste coconut vapor. The mix smells great, tastes pretty good in the finger test, but falls flat in the atty. Back to the drawing board! :(

Thats a tough one brother. I hope you find one that works to scratch that itch.
 

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Thanks for the thought. I just tried it though and it doesn't impress. I'm about to think I just can't taste coconut vapor. The mix smells great, tastes pretty good in the finger test, but falls flat in the atty. Back to the drawing board! :(
The alcohol note you spoke about comes from the LB coconut milk, this flavor alone needs at least 5 day steep to thicken and lose that alcohol. (FA) coconut in my opinion 3 days. Everything else in that mix 7 days.

what I'm trying to say is, steep it at least a couple days before throwing it away. It might thicken out and get a little stronger. Can always add some drops later before fully starting over on the recipe.
 

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Yup. All my favorites, too! Haven’t had a lot of luck with the others. Sun tan lotion.....ick.....

And I do like HS FVIC quite a bit. I don’t get a musky taste from it? Guess it’s just a case of personal taste again! But LB is my absolute favorite ice cream by far. You’re definitely right about it’s versatility and smooth richness.

I haven’t tried the pudding ice cream combo yet.....inw is my go to if I want an almost snv custard. FA is def way too lemony(unless you’re making a lemon custard....tho it does steep out a bit). Custard is my favorite of all and I’m willing to wait to get that perfect vape. <3
Yep said it before and say it again, we have a lot in common ;) how could I forget (InW) custard, I like that one too as well as creme brulee, but testing out VT's and see how it compares.
 

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Thanks for the thought. I just tried it though and it doesn't impress. I'm about to think I just can't taste coconut vapor. The mix smells great, tastes pretty good in the finger test, but falls flat in the atty. Back to the drawing board! :(

I have found that certain e-Liquids require more or less power to taste the way I want them to. Like cooking if you overcook something it tastes like garbage. Just a thought which might help you dial in that elusive flavor. Good Luck
 

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I have found that certain e-Liquids require more or less power to taste the way I want them to. Like cooking if you overcook something it tastes like garbage. Just a thought which might help you dial in that elusive flavor. Good Luck

I gotta get a single coil rda so I can test stuff at lower power. These dual coil attys take at least 65-70 watts to heat up with the coils I've got right now. I need something I can put a simple round wire coil and it'll still have good flavor at low watts.
 

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I gotta get a single coil rda so I can test stuff at lower power. These dual coil attys take at least 65-70 watts to heat up with the coils I've got right now. I need something I can put a simple round wire coil and it'll still have good flavor at low watts.

One of the reasons I have 6 MOD Kits ready to go at any time because I switch flavors so often during the day. Funny how I pick what MOD's I bring with me everyday like women pick what they will wear~! I also have a crapload of atomizers loaded for when I all if a sudden decide I want to Sub Ohm on the fly from vaping at 10-15 watts instantly up to 100W and TC.
 

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One of the reasons I have 6 MOD Kits ready to go at any time because I switch flavors so often during the day. Funny how I pick what MOD's I bring with me everyday like women pick what they will wear~! I also have a crapload of atomizers loaded for when I all if a sudden decide I want to Sub Ohm on the fly from vaping at 10-15 watts instantly up to 100W and TC.

I hear you. I've got 3 good mods now and I've got good atomizers for each one. They're just dual coil attys and they don't have as much flavor with simple coils as the fused claptons I use. I've gotta get me at least one single coil - maybe 2. I need a small rda and a single coil rta...maybe the Intake by Augvape.
 

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I hear you. I've got 3 good mods now and I've got good atomizers for each one. They're just dual coil attys and they don't have as much flavor with simple coils as the fused claptons I use. I've gotta get me at least one single coil - maybe 2. I need a small rda and a single coil rta...maybe the Intake by Augvape.

Longer post, sorry everyone :(

I'm going to say this out of respect and knowing the frustration you might feel about this coconut mix. I'm not saying this because I'm an expert, please don't take it as offense, just trying to help because I'm seeing in which direction you're heading here lol.

while a mix tastes different at varies wattage and specific and different airflow as well as coils and build decks, one thing you need to keep in mind is, that not every flavor is strong, good or agrees with your taste or excitement you might have had. In simple words, not every flavor is true to label.

I'm not going into a discussion about what brand is better then others, it's subjective. I'm also not suggesting to buy 300 more flavors, you'll do that anyways eventually, but I'm a firm believer of making any flavor work - one way or another. Some might be trickier than others, but that's the fun right?

If you can taste the flavors and your mix, but can't taste it in your vape, I'm not blaming your taste buds. But rather then going out and spending money on new items you might not even want or need. Now by all means if you ever wanted a single go ahead, but don't buy it because you think that lower wattage always gives better flavor. It doesnt.

If you vape dual currently and enjoying that, make your juice work with that. If you like wide airflow and dl the intake is not what you want. It's very restrictive, I like mine but only because my kylin mini is nowadays too airy for me lol. Funny because I used to vape dual at higher watts.

anyways, if you can't taste the coconut in the mix above, maybe I can suggest lowering the creams, especially if you want to keep the toasted marshmallow. Same for the grahams but if you want to stick with that, increase the coconut.

Try 4% coconut milk with 1.5-2.5% flavor art coconut. Or whatever percentage you like, this is just based on the sheer amount of creams and double Graham that I'm suggesting this. Otherwise it's way too high properly. coconut is in general a delicate flavor, very top heavy and easily drowned out by vanilla or thick heavy creams, like your bavarian.

Also since you mentioned somewhere that you rather not wait 4 months but snv. This isn't snv due to the alcohol and we all know creams need to steep, but it will give you a more in your face coconut in short time.

again I mean no harm, but I felt writing this, because I've been there. Buying every mod/atomizer and lab grade equipment, because people in general were telling me, that this is the issue. Not steve, in fact he's making a good point here, but you probably could also try some lower wattage builds on your dual.

I hope you keep us updated, and who knows maybe the one currently steeping might be real good and can satisfy your personal taste :)
 

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So I’ve put a bit of thought into this mix.....and a bit of research. Coconut cream pie is fake coconut light custard....perhaps even a thick pudding? It’s been a while since I’ve made one. Anyways....FA coconut is real coconut. Perhaps it’s not the coconut you’re looking for(or droid, for that matter). Perhaps you need a sweeter coconut that stands out(TFA coconut candy? FLV sweet coconut?) And maybe @eStorm is correct that you could be drowning out the coconut with cream/ice cream.....or maybe even the vanilla?? You can taste coconut.....unless I’m misunderstanding you. And, unfortunately, anything with the word “cream” is gonna take at least a week. @LeanPipe def has a great idea with vt avocado cream. And perhaps even TFA Cheesecake Graham crust low for the crust and thickening agent. Or.....FLV vanilla pudding? Inw Custard? Sorry for the stream of consciousness post.....I’m tired and not thinking clearly. Hoping you can get something out of this.......o_O
Longer post, sorry everyone :(

I'm going to say this out of respect and knowing the frustration you might feel about this coconut mix. I'm not saying this because I'm an expert, please don't take it as offense, just trying to help because I'm seeing in which direction you're heading here lol.

while a mix tastes different at varies wattage and specific and different airflow as well as coils and build decks, one thing you need to keep in mind is, that not every flavor is strong, good or agrees with your taste or excitement you might have had. In simple words, not every flavor is true to label.

I'm not going into a discussion about what brand is better then others, it's subjective. I'm also not suggesting to buy 300 more flavors, you'll do that anyways eventually, but I'm a firm believer of making any flavor work - one way or another. Some might be trickier than others, but that's the fun right?

If you can taste the flavors and your mix, but can't taste it in your vape, I'm not blaming your taste buds. But rather then going out and spending money on new items you might not even want or need. Now by all means if you ever wanted a single go ahead, but don't buy it because you think that lower wattage always gives better flavor. It doesnt.

If you vape dual currently and enjoying that, make your juice work with that. If you like wide airflow and dl the intake is not what you want. It's very restrictive, I like mine but only because my kylin mini is nowadays too airy for me lol. Funny because I used to vape dual at higher watts.

anyways, if you can't taste the coconut in the mix above, maybe I can suggest lowering the creams, especially if you want to keep the toasted marshmallow. Same for the grahams but if you want to stick with that, increase the coconut.

Try 4% coconut milk with 1.5-2.5% flavor art coconut. Or whatever percentage you like, this is just based on the sheer amount of creams and double Graham that I'm suggesting this. Otherwise it's way too high properly. coconut is in general a delicate flavor, very top heavy and easily drowned out by vanilla or thick heavy creams, like your bavarian.

Also since you mentioned somewhere that you rather not wait 4 months but snv. This isn't snv due to the alcohol and we all know creams need to steep, but it will give you a more in your face coconut in short time.

again I mean no harm, but I felt writing this, because I've been there. Buying every mod/atomizer and lab grade equipment, because people in general were telling me, that this is the issue. Not steve, in fact he's making a good point here, but you probably could also try some lower wattage builds on your dual.

I hope you keep us updated, and who knows maybe the one currently steeping might be real good and can satisfy your personal taste :)
All good points.
 

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@eStorm and @wildgypsy70 and others who have tried to help...thank you all very much.

I've been approaching this thing all wrong I think. Back in the late 70s I was working the grill in a restaurant and the old lady who cooked for the buffet made the most delicious coconut cream pies. I don't know how she made them except she used eggs, milk, sugar, and a ton of Baker's coconut. People used to come in to eat and a lot of times they'd take a whole pie to go.

I've been trying to craft a juice that tastes like that pie, and it may not be possible with my current skill set and the flavors I have available to me right now. Plus, it's been 40 years since I had it. I'm gonna take a minute and think about this some more. I would say I'll let this batch steep for a few days and see how it tastes, but I vaped it already. :rolleyes:

I'll reformulate according to the suggestions above, take out the creams and graham for now, and see if I can get the coconut custard bsse right first, then see about adding a little bit of crust. I got 2 gallons of vg yesterday and I've got to sweet talk my wife into washing out some bottles for me and see what I can come up with.

I may have to get some more flavors like the coconut candy or the sweet coconut. It'll just be a couple of weeks before I can. It would certainly make it easier I'm sure.

Again, thank you guys for all your help. You're awesome! (this is for the girls: :inlove:) and the boys: :cheers:

Goodnight, I'll see you later on today!
 

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More thoughts.....VT pudding base could help as well. And perhaps pie crust of some ilk instead of graham crust? Graham crust can take over sometimes. There are so many ways of going about this....just depends on how you wanna do it.
 

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I gotta get a single coil rda so I can test stuff at lower power. These dual coil attys take at least 65-70 watts to heat up with the coils I've got right now. I need something I can put a simple round wire coil and it'll still have good flavor at low watts.
I just ordered several of these from ft
https://www.fasttech.com/products/1395709
I always find that the juices I make and don't like, taste awesome after a month of steeping.
 

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More thoughts.....VT pudding base could help as well. And perhaps pie crust of some ilk instead of graham crust? Graham crust can take over sometimes. There are so many ways of going about this....just depends on how you wanna do it.
I have not had coconut cream pie. I can imagine it though. We have different pies in Australia than you guys, more like Apple pie, and we have jammy tarts, and thick set custard tarts.
I am imagining a coconut ice (a candy). It uses condensed milk. I know a lot of mixers don't like using it, but I find it is quite nice at 0.5%. It tastes like condensed milk to me at low percentage. That might be a thought?
I like everyone's advice, and I know that you will crack this lol.
 

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I have not had coconut cream pie. I can imagine it though. We have different pies in Australia than you guys, more like Apple pie, and we have jammy tarts, and thick set custard tarts.
I am imagining a coconut ice (a candy). It uses condensed milk. I know a lot of mixers don't like using it, but I find it is quite nice at 0.5%. It tastes like condensed milk to me at low percentage. That might be a thought?
I like everyone's advice, and I know that you will crack this lol.
Well here's the problem with that. I grew up in Europe and only live in the US for the last 15 years. I've never been to Australia but talking to some people from there, it's more based on European dishes/flavors whatever you want to call it then american. Probably the reason I like more VTs attempt on flavors then a US brand for example.

but knowing how confusing this sometimes is, can be shown on simple flavors like (PUR) condensed milk. I constantly see reviews bashing the flavor, yet it's the most realistic and authentic condensed milk (European) but it has absolutely nothing to do, or even the slightest similarity to condensed milk sold here in the US lol.

so what you and I might think off when somebody says condensed milk, might be not the same to americans. Trust me shopping here, not just vape related, on a daily basis sometimes makes me more confused or excited about a specific taste, than what's actually sold under the same name here and is totally different lol.

but I agree it would be a good thought as long as nobody runs for the American version of that condensed milk, because that would be a disaster in it self ;)
 

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Well here's the problem with that. I grew up in Europe and only live in the US for the last 15 years. I've never been to Australia but talking to some people from there, it's more based on European dishes/flavors whatever you want to call it then american. Probably the reason I like more VTs attempt on flavors then a US brand for example.

but knowing how confusing this sometimes is, can be shown on simple flavors like (PUR) condensed milk. I constantly see reviews bashing the flavor, yet it's the most realistic and authentic condensed milk (European) but it has absolutely nothing to do, or even the slightest similarity to condensed milk sold here in the US lol.

so what you and I might think off when somebody says condensed milk, might be not the same to americans. Trust me shopping here, not just vape related, on a daily basis sometimes makes me more confused or excited about a specific taste, than what's actually sold under the same name here and is totally different lol.

but I agree it would be a good thought as long as nobody runs for the American version of that condensed milk, because that would be a disaster in it self ;)
Isn't it funny, condensed milk could differ. I used to make mayonnaise out of it. It was so nice. Can of condensed milk, a teaspoon of mustard powder, and a half cup of vinegar.
USA chocolate tastes much sweeter than ours, and coke here is different, more watered down and less sweet.
Yeah, I think our tastes stem from European. I even found USA bread to taste sweet.
I love big red gum, I get that from USA.
 

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Well here's the problem with that. I grew up in Europe and only live in the US for the last 15 years. I've never been to Australia but talking to some people from there, it's more based on European dishes/flavors whatever you want to call it then american. Probably the reason I like more VTs attempt on flavors then a US brand for example.

but knowing how confusing this sometimes is, can be shown on simple flavors like (PUR) condensed milk. I constantly see reviews bashing the flavor, yet it's the most realistic and authentic condensed milk (European) but it has absolutely nothing to do, or even the slightest similarity to condensed milk sold here in the US lol.

so what you and I might think off when somebody says condensed milk, might be not the same to americans. Trust me shopping here, not just vape related, on a daily basis sometimes makes me more confused or excited about a specific taste, than what's actually sold under the same name here and is totally different lol.

but I agree it would be a good thought as long as nobody runs for the American version of that condensed milk, because that would be a disaster in it self ;)

Spot on. When you say condensed milk, I think of Eagle Brand sweetened condensed milk but from what I've been able to gather, most brands condensed milk flavoring is actually evaporated milk - what was known as "Pet milk" when I was growing up. Pet being the brand name. I haven't tried it standalone because I absolutely detest milk but Hangsen cream smells just like evaporated milk to me. I keep it on hand because it's an essential element of my cheesecake recipe that I adapted from wllmc's juicy strawberry cheesecake.

If there was an actual "condensed milk" flavoring like Eagle brand, it would be a major building block of tons of fabulous recipes.
 

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Spot on. When you say condensed milk, I think of Eagle Brand sweetened condensed milk but from what I've been able to gather, most brands condensed milk flavoring is actually evaporated milk - what was known as "Pet milk" when I was growing up. Pet being the brand name. I haven't tried it standalone because I absolutely detest milk but Hangsen cream smells just like evaporated milk to me. I keep it on hand because it's an essential element of my cheesecake recipe that I adapted from wllmc's juicy strawberry cheesecake.

If there was an actual "condensed milk" flavoring like Eagle brand, it would be a major building block of tons of fabulous recipes.
I wonder if you could pull it off by creaming up Dulce de Leche? You can make Dulce by dropping a can of unopened condensed milk in a pan of water and simmer it for a few hours. Cause you’re right.....a sweet US condensed milk? I’d be all over that!
 

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Spot on. When you say condensed milk, I think of Eagle Brand sweetened condensed milk but from what I've been able to gather, most brands condensed milk flavoring is actually evaporated milk - what was known as "Pet milk" when I was growing up. Pet being the brand name. I haven't tried it standalone because I absolutely detest milk but Hangsen cream smells just like evaporated milk to me. I keep it on hand because it's an essential element of my cheesecake recipe that I adapted from wllmc's juicy strawberry cheesecake.

If there was an actual "condensed milk" flavoring like Eagle brand, it would be a major building block of tons of fabulous recipes.
So I just found OoO condensed milk.....the US version! I ordered it....of course I did. I’ll let ya know when I get it and test it!
 

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I can't believe your condensed milk isn't sweet. Is it thick?
Oh it is! Sickeningly so. And thick. It’s so damn good.....yours is sweet? I somehow got the impression it wasn’t?
 

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So I just found OoO condensed milk.....the US version! I ordered it....of course I did. I’ll let ya know when I get it and test it!

I've got to order a ton of flavors on the 3rd. I'll be waiting to hear about it and add it to the list if it's what we think it is. Dulce de leche sounds like it has a lot of promise. I may get that 'just because'. :)
 

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Oh it is! Sickeningly so. And thick. It’s so damn good.....yours is sweet? I somehow got the impression it wasn’t?
Yes sweet, and creamy. Maybe it's the same then I dunno lol.
You can add cake crumbs and rum and make rum balls.
 

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I've got the sweet coconut and the coconut custard in the cart. As soon as I get it, I'll try this recipe again. For the record, the bitterness I was getting before is coming from the tfa toasted coconut. It might work mixed waaay back in a recipe but it'll need some serious sweetening.
 

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I've got the sweet coconut and the coconut custard in the cart. As soon as I get it, I'll try this recipe again. For the record, the bitterness I was getting before is coming from the tfa toasted coconut. It might work mixed waaay back in a recipe but it'll need some serious sweetening.
Did you put toasted coconut in it, or did you mean toasted marshmallow?
 

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