Hard hitting clones?

CurlyxCracker · Jul 13, 2014

I know a lot comes into play with voltage drop. I stick with vct4/5's for unregulated devices. And I'm not new to sub-ohm. And was curious as to what would be a good 18650 mech for low sub-ohm builds. I've narrowed it down to something probably in copper. I was looking at the copper 4nine clone, assuming this would have a pretty great voltage drop with the magnet switch and hybrid style connection, but then I read not to go very low with it... Just looking for some suggestions?

Dhim · Jul 13, 2014

Without any exact testing, I would say you are on the right path with the 4nine. You are completely eliminating any drop from the atomizer connector (since you are tapping up to the battery).

Scuba-Matt · Jul 13, 2014

My 4nine hits hard.

CurlyxCracker · Jul 13, 2014

Scuba-Matt said:
My 4nine hits hard.

Any reason not to go low with it? Or was I just reading a troll post?

twisted_transistor · Jul 13, 2014

CurlyxCracker said:
Any reason not to go low with it? Or was I just reading a troll post?

I read a similar post but not for the copper version it was the stainless one and they thought maybe it was because of the copper button being more conductive than the body of the atomiser. I have a copper 4nine clone on order and I plan for my mephisto to live atop it for those super sub ohm builds

Puffinstein · Jul 14, 2014

Copper Nemesis by Hcigar is a heavy hitter .

twisted_transistor · Jul 14, 2014

Just got some nickel plated copper contacts from fatdaddyvapes for my panzer and its now up there in my top 3

Crocky · Jul 14, 2014

I have the copper 4nine and the SS one. Love them both and run as low as .45 on them. No issues at all both either

tick22 · Jul 14, 2014

I got hit by a Maraxus and have to say it was a hard hitting mod for sure... ouch...

duncanyoyo1 · Jul 15, 2014

Be careful with the 4nine, the clone I have has absolutely NO venting at all. Not good for super sub ohming. If you want to go with one just make sure to drill a vent hole or make sure the one you are buying is properly vented.

As for a hard hitting clone, the copper stingray ( the one that has all copper contacts ) hits really hard.

chris damron · Jul 15, 2014

Copper panzer (red phoenix), akuma, copper nemy, copper stingray, I have all of those and they're the hardest hitting in my collection. The copper panzer and akuma are tied for hardest hitters for sure.

pwnby · Jul 15, 2014

copper king mod clone is pretty decent as well. i vape it at .2-.3 all day and the mod itself never gets hot, it has vent holes at the top and in the button. got some magnets coming for the switch... vapemail soon!

Saddletramp1200 · Jul 15, 2014

This might be cheating, but the Hades 26650 with a UD IGO -W6 hits like a MACK Truck.

jae · Jul 15, 2014

Copper anything is going to deliver the jolts where it counts as fast as it can get there. I love my copper Nemmy clone.

MushroomCloud · Jul 16, 2014

love my stingrays and copper vanilla

Gonzi · Jul 16, 2014

Really, any copper mod with clean contacts and a solid switch will be the most conductive. My Stingray hits the hardest of all my mechs, but I have a copper 4nine on order that I'm sure will hit just as hard.

Lownslow · Jul 16, 2014

I love my stingrays as well, they are hands down my go to mod for anything. Rockin a .31 ohm build with a tobh and for what it is, it just gets down.

not2coolguy · Jul 18, 2014

copper panzer clone will give you the straight KO

Scuba-Matt · Jul 18, 2014

Stingray is one of the hardest hitting clones out there. It has a remarkable low voltage drop under load.
Here is a Video from Twisted420

havok333 · Jul 18, 2014

Stingray is a good choice. The other that I have is a copper Pegasus!

MushroomCloud · Jul 19, 2014

got my copper penny mod today and hits as hard as my stingray or harder

Puffinstein · Jul 25, 2014

Copper Penny mods (Tobecco Clone) came into the shop yesterday (Stormy's vapor Cellar), after trying it I had to buy it. Hardest hitting mod I own . Hits harder than the copper Nemesis .

MushroomCloud · Jul 25, 2014

I agree with puffinstien my penny is the hardest hitting one by far out of my 19 modds

DeathMeowtal · Aug 25, 2014

I'm absolutely in love with my Panzer 18650 Clone! 75% battery gave me that cloud in my profile picture. My atty is a CLT Infinite with .16ohms. I don't see a lot of love for the panzer on these forums but it feels amazing in your hand and the button/lock is perfection! The only con is the floating pin, if you use more than one battery type it's annoying to re-adjust the pin. The voltage drop people speak of isn't bad, just keep one or two spare batteries on you and you're good to go!

audio-neon · Aug 25, 2014

Anything in copper will be a great choice. If I could buy any copper mod it would be the aria built, oros. But I currently have a paragon clone that hits like a truck. I competed in a cloud chasing competition a couple weekends ago, using a turtleship clone. After the competition I saw the paragon sitting in the display case, tried it with the same battery and build I used with my turtleship and I was dying. Hit so much harder and hotter.

not2coolguy · Aug 26, 2014

DeathMeowtal said:
I'm absolutely in love with my Panzer 18650 Clone! 75% battery gave me that cloud in my profile picture. My atty is a CLT Infinite with .16ohms. I don't see a lot of love for the panzer on these forums but it feels amazing in your hand and the button/lock is perfection! The only con is the floating pin, if you use more than one battery type it's annoying to re-adjust the pin. The voltage drop people speak of isn't bad, just keep one or two spare batteries on you and you're good to go!

i love my copper panzer clone. hits harder than all my other mods including my black copper stingray. I got a copper manhattan clone on the way, hoping it hits even harder than the panzer. can't wait to give it a go.

CurlyxCracker · Aug 26, 2014

I'm realizing copper contacts make a HUGE difference. Got a mod in trade, wish I could find more info on it but it's a J2P Mods "Butler", and with my 0.3ohm Plume Veil clone I'm looking at 0.2v drop. Pretty darn good imo

MrScaryZ · Aug 26, 2014

maybe a sewer pipe made of all copper and about 12 car batteries would do the trick man can you imagine the cloud

MrScaryZ · Aug 26, 2014

Scuba-Matt said:
Stingray is one of the hardest hitting clones out there. It has a remarkable low voltage drop under load.
Here is a Video from Twisted420

Is that the all copper stingray @Scuba-Matt

Scuba-Matt · Aug 26, 2014

The one twisted used is the brass. The copper would have netted even better results.

OOKALAH · Sep 3, 2014

I have a copper panzer clone and it hits hard, the problem I have is with the lock it seems to get stuck and if you don't lock it and put it in you pocket you can get a misfire. No good. But other then that it's hits HARD!!!

CaFF · Sep 3, 2014

OOKALAH said:
I have a copper panzer clone and it hits hard, the problem I have is with the lock it seems to get stuck and if you don't lock it and put it in you pocket you can get a misfire. No good. But other then that it's hits HARD!!!

IDK which one ya got, but mine was like that at first.
I brushed the threads and lubed it up a bit and it's golden ever since. Just don't over-tighten it.

Copper is really soft, so no matter the mod if ya torque it down, you will likely freeze it up.
I had to stick an o-ring on my copper King v2 just above the locking ring to keep it from sticking, but it's fine now too

MKPM · Sep 3, 2014

Brass Cartel clone/Zenith clone/Sony batts = SAVAGE

OOKALAH · Sep 3, 2014

CaFF said:
IDK which one ya got, but mine was like that at first.
I brushed the threads and lubed it up a bit and it's golden ever since. Just don't over-tighten it.

Copper is really soft, so no matter the mod if ya torque it down, you will likely freeze it up.
I had to stick an o-ring on my copper King v2 just above the locking ring to keep it from sticking, but it's fine now too

Right on, I'll give that a try. Thanks

DeathMeowtal · Sep 4, 2014

OOKALAH said:
I have a copper panzer clone and it hits hard, the problem I have is with the lock it seems to get stuck and if you don't lock it and put it in you pocket you can get a misfire. No good. But other then that it's hits HARD!!!

Ironically I've had my panzer for a little over a month now and the lock ring is starting to drive me insane. I just take the battery out now. Other than that the mod hits flawlessly and I don't regret getting it!

MKPM · Sep 4, 2014

I'm pretty sure my least favourite lock ring is on the Nemesis

DeathMeowtal · Sep 4, 2014

franciscan said:
I'm pretty sure my least favourite lock ring is on the Nemesis

Oh boy, I was at the shop doing first hand tests on a bunch of clones and I dont even think I tried the Nemesis after I saw the lock ring haha. The 26650 Hades ring is a little odd for me, to be honest.

Also the 4nine is a great mod but that button inside the mod... :c

CurlyxCracker · Sep 6, 2014

I'm liking the recessed/strong magnet switches, but I'm lazy so doesn't say much I suppose

MKPM · Sep 6, 2014

CurlyxCracker said:
I'm liking the recessed/strong magnet switches, but I'm lazy so doesn't say much I suppose

I'm with you on that. I'm pretty certain that I will be selling all of my mech tube mods (with the exception of my custom Chi You clone and Cartel clone). I'm currently on a YIHI chipped box kick.

CurlyxCracker · Sep 6, 2014

franciscan said:
I'm with you on that. I'm pretty certain that I will be selling all of my mech tube mods (with the exception of my custom Chi You clone and Cartel clone). I'm currently on a YIHI chipped box kick.

I jumped on the high wattage bus too early, got the 30w clone then, it was a high wattage shit storm right after! How it goes in the tech world though. My plan now is to wait for the upgraded version of the 350 with step down and build a dual 18650 mod. The 350 has been out a bit now so I feel I just need to wait...

MKPM · Sep 6, 2014

CurlyxCracker said:
I jumped on the high wattage bus too early, got the 30w clone then, it was a high wattage shit storm right after! How it goes in the tech world though. My plan now is to wait for the upgraded version of the 350 with step down and build a dual 18650 mod. The 350 has been out a bit now so I feel I just need to wait...

I'm likely to do the same...seems like a good place to park a .02ohm Gplat dual coil build

fq06 · Sep 9, 2014

CurlyxCracker said:
Any reason not to go low with it? Or was I just reading a troll post?

It's said not to go below 0.25 because the heat in the button (or current?) can weaken the magnets force. That's any mod with magnets.

And yeah, on lock rings... hate em. Won't own another mod with a lock ring.

My 4nine rocks, zero issues and if you want a vent on the top you can grind a channel from the two holes in the top cap out to the edge. You don't have to take much material out, just enough for the air to get out between the top cap and the base of your atty... like 1/2 of the caps thickness. My dremel went a little further about 3/4 but its fine.

dEaDoNaRrIvAl~WaRoNfLeSh · Sep 25, 2014

My Panzer and 4nine hit like a monster! I have a 4/5 wrap 26g dual micro coil at .18 ohms. (use good batteries)

audio-neon · Oct 11, 2014

Just wanted to throw in my two cents, Today at work, we decided to test voltage drops of the authentic section, and out of curiosity we tried the authentic Manhattan copper vs the clone, and guess what happened? The clone had exactly the same voltage drop, hence is as good as the authentic.

Damwow · Dec 15, 2014

audio-neon said:
Just wanted to throw in my two cents, Today at work, we decided to test voltage drops of the authentic section, and out of curiosity we tried the authentic Manhattan copper vs the clone, and guess what happened? The clone had exactly the same voltage drop, hence is as good as the authentic.

Which clone was it? Was it the one by euphroa? Or however you spell it

Saddletramp1200 · Dec 19, 2014

12 dollar clone from FT. 90.00 Sigelei Mod. Cloud it makes, priceless.

VapeMastiff · Dec 28, 2014

I just received some vapemail today with an SS Zeus clone and Big Dripper V1 clone. Running at .2 ohms about blew my lungs out. Violent is the best word for it! lol

EDIT: Silver contacts > copper contacts all day erryday.

ConcreteBob · Dec 30, 2014

I have been loving my Clone Killer mod. All copper hybrid. I did manage to destroy a battery on it when I failed to check a positive connection for clearance, but it is seriously hard hitting.

ConcreteBob · Dec 30, 2014

Sorry for the repeats...

ConcreteBob · Dec 30, 2014

I have been loving my Clone Killer mod. All copper hybrid. I did manage to destroy a battery on it when I failed to check a positive connection for clearance, but it is seriously hard hitting.

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