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Adding nicotine to 0mg premixed batches to desired nic strengths

littlewitewilly

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Just a quickie here.

I plan on mixing up either 250ml or 500ml batches of ZERO nic recipes that I really like, letting them "steep", then adding nic at varying levels to varying amounts according to whats needed ( i vape DL and MTL). My problem is trying to figure out volume AFTER adding nic, to be able to add my final product into various sized bottles.

For example...I want to make 100mls, of 12mg liquid from a 0 nic recipe. I will be using 100mg/ml nic base, and I will doing it by weight. I am also going to assume that 1g is roughly equal to 1ml for liquids.

1) When I open JuiceCalculator/Tools/SimpleCalculators/AdjustNic LevelinJuice, it tells me to add 14.114g(ml) of nic base to 100mls of liquid to reach my desired strength of 12mg/ml. I now have roughly 114ml of finished product at 12mg/ml, correct?

2) Using the example in (1) above...In order to make a 12mg batch to fill a 100ml bottle, I would need to add 12.1g(ml) of nic base to 86ml of liquid? 86ml + 12ml = 98ml?

Looks like 5th grade math to me, but for some reason...You get the picture LOL
 

Train

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It gets confusing pretty easily - but there IS a simple way to look at it.
All you need is the desired strength, desired FINAL volume, and the strength of the nic base.
Then the REST is 0-nic blend.

For example:

You want to make 100 mls of 12mg/ml strenth.
That means you need a total of 12x100 mgs of nic, right? Of course!
So if you're starting with 100 mg/ml strength, you need 12 mls.
Then the rest (100-12 = 88) is flavored mix.


What if you were starting with 60mg/ml strength base? You'd need 20 mls of it (60x20=1200).
Then the REST of the volume is flavored mix. 100-20 = 80.

What this does not take into account is that these two mixes will be a bit different - as the lower nic base version will slightly dilute the flavor more. And the PG/VG ratio may be effected (unless it's all 50/50 or something). But the nic strength would be the same.
 
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jojosvapes

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Unsure of the tools you mention but I use ELR for items just like this at times. They show ml and grams maybe this will help you?

http://e-liquid-recipes.com/create

I created a recipe link for you: http://e-liquid-recipes.com/recipe/2770158/Nic+Conversion

From that unless I have misunderstood - and check my math / the sites results but it looks like your at about a 88 to 12 ratio like Train mentioned.

Feel free to take the recipe and mess with the number to see if it gets you what you are looking for. Hopefully it helps not just now but for future items you may be working on.
 

Hoggy

Member For 3 Years
ok.. I'm all about automation! I used to be in all accelerated math classes, until disability left me almost having trouble adding 2 + 2 these days. :)

I also use Hotrod's Juice Calculator, and regularly bend it to suit my needs - such as for using pre-made nic bases without doing manual math or fidgeting with percentages. Since you're using 100mg/ml nic strength, I think that makes this easier if I'm not mistaken.

What you may want to do is creating a 'nicotine' ingredient that is 0 mg/ml nic strength as 100%PG - naming something like "nic - pre-made flavoring". This will actually be your pre-made FLAVOR. Then you may want to create a 'flavor' indredient that is 100mg/ml nicotine strength as 100%PG - named something like "flavor (actual nic base)". This will actually be your 100mg/ml nic base.

Then when you want 100ml that ends up being 12mg/ml, simply set a recipe for 100ml in "amount to make", use the 1st ingredient above as your "nicotine", and set the pg/vg ratio to 100%PG. Then add the 2nd ingredient above as the 'flavor' at 12%. What I think you'll end up with (seems to work, here) is the 'PG' ingredient amount to add, and your 'flavor' ingredient amount to add.. However, the "PG" represents your pre-made flavoring, and your "flavor" represents your nic base.

Just ignore all warnings and I think that will get you an automatic calculation of the totals to add. Your nic strength will be spot on with that % you set for the so-called 'flavor' ingredient, while your actual pg/vg and flavor ratios will be a tad off of what you actually made. However, that's the price to pay for using pre-made bases... IMO though, it's a very small price to pay for the convenience of using pre-made bases/flavorings.

You may want to double check that this will work for your purpose, as others may have a clearer head then mine.. But it seems to work in the test I did.
 

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