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Btw, I don't see very much love on here for MVS but I have had really good luck with them on the purchases made through their site. (segeili 100w+ for under $100.00)

Don't know why, I know lots of people that use them. I guess it's not cool or something so they keep it on the down low.
They've done right for me many times...
 

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Haven't been able to put this tank down since I got it. I've gone through a number of refills and the original stock coil is still going strong. Picked up a 5-pack of replacements which should last for some time, especially since they are a pretty straightforward rebuild. It has my vote as the best tank for 2014.

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Haven't been able to put this tank down since I got it. I've gone through a number of refills and the original stock coil is still going strong. Picked up a 5-pack of replacements which should last for some time, especially since they are a pretty straightforward rebuild. It has my vote as the best tank for 2014.

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May I ask where you got the replacement coils from? I've looked around but didn't see any in stock yet.
 

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The Kanger SubTank I got in earlier today is a big winner in my book so far.

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If you like a tight draw, it's probably not going to be for you. This one is about flavor, vapor and a lot of air flow. You are also going to need around 25w to enjoy it I suspect... thats what's doing it for me with the Our RY4 I've had in it all day. The 0.5Ω coil that comes installed in it will also require a bigger battery to run it for any length of time. I haven't tried the 1.2Ω yet... but I bet that will be just as nice and will be able to use lower amps at a lower power level as well.

The only down side is it's diameter of 25mm which won't look right on most of the mods that are 22mm. They did put a 22mm-25mm adapter with it... but then it looks a bit awkward like the eGo batteries with a decent size tank on top of them. I suspect they did it this size in order to maintain a large 6ml capacity in clearo mode and 4.2ml in RTA mode. I'd just as soon had a little less capacity and a 22mm sized tank. Perhaps some smaller diameter models are in their future although they may have to drop the RTA portion if they go to the smaller 18mm or smaller sizes.

The taste using the factory clearo type of coil is good from the get go... They are using organic cotton and I don't taste anything when I first started using it. There didn't seem to be a need for a breakin period like many coils have... even the ones I've built have a bit of one. If they don't make some smaller sizes... They do good if they move the technology they have in these coils into their Aerotank line of clearos.

It looks like it will be a bit before I use up this first coil... I really look forward to trying out the RTA deck on it later. I hope to see some of the same characteristics on the coils in the RTA with the ease of build similar to the Kayfun's that I'm used to using.
 

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I think this tank was rushed to market for a number of reasons. It has the potential to be a good tank, I just think they didn't spend enough time engineering, manufacturing, and marketing this tank. I think if the Atlantis hadn't stormed the market the way it did, Kanger would have spent a bit more time perfecting this tank and come to market with a much better offereing. It's not that's it's a bad tank, but it does have issues and could have used a bit more R&D.
 

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and from your perspective, what issues does it suffer from, and what more r &d would you be refering...
keeping in mind the tank was made to be used with kangers battery, taking a page from inokins play book...
 

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I think this is the best tank on the market right now. I am very impressed with it. A friend purchased one recently and I had a chance to test it out. Very good draw, pure flavor, strong vapor and extremely versatile. I don't see how this tank could be compared to the Aspire Atlantis, even though there seems to be a lot of interest in comparing the two, there's very little correlation. The Atlantis holds 2ml of juice, not good, since you'll be on a sub ohm 0.5 coil vaping at high wattage, draining your battery and juice very quickly. The Kanger Subtank holds 6ml 3x the capacity of the Atlantis. The build quality is better, the pyrex glass is thicker, better threading a spring loaded pin to make good contact with the battery. It's far more elegant looking. Coils are wicked with Japanese organic cotton which is exceptional wicking material giving you superb flavor. They include a complete RBA kit so you can build your own coils with clear instructions. This will work very well for people who lacked the confidence to try custom builds and can now take the first step in making their own coils, exploring their curiosity and ultimately gaining satisfaction through personal achievement. I was also informed by a trusted source that these tanks are compatible with the older dual coils, so you can continue to use the coils you have for the Aerotank series. This is a major accomplishment by Kangertech.


I was having similar thought. This is a good way for people who would like to rebuild to start. It builds much like a kayfun. If the person doesn't have the ability to rig a good working coil, they are not out 20-30 for a kayfun clone. They can simply buy heads like they normally would and have a well build quality tank that they can sub ohm and get some clouds off of. I ordered my subtank today, I'm thinking of shipped day after Christmas I should have it Tuesday ish. Cant wait for it. If it is 3/4 as good as the reviews it is getting, I will be a happy man.
 

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I also really like this tank... it is one of the best ones I've owned up till now... better than my Kayfuns and provides more options.


Perhaps this tank will finally help kill that false mindset that sub-ohms are required for good flavor/vapor that was only caused because the mech mod crowd had no other option than to use lower ohms to get the power they wanted.... If you have a good regulated mod with the power needed... you can get all of the clouds you want and you do not have to run low ohms to do it.

The only potential issue I see ( beyond the too large of a diameter which is subjective )... is that the DNA 40 users that will want to use the temp limit features may have an issue if the resistance varies too much because of the spring loaded self adjusting 510 connector these use. Yet at the same time, that very feature is one I've been hoping to see on an atomizer for a long time.
 

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I can't remember... does the Vapor Shark rDNA30 fire at .5 ohm? That would be the only device I have that would firethis tank (and look semi good doing it) if so. Provari, nay; REO nay lol; Spinner II nope, not that one either. I guess I could look it up and will if no replies.
 

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I can't remember... does the Vapor Shark rDNA30 fire at .5 ohm? That would be the only device I have that would firethis tank (and look semi good doing it) if so. Provari, nay; REO nay lol; Spinner II nope, not that one either. I guess I could look it up and will if no replies.
There are 1.2 ohm coils too.. And, of course, you can rebuild the deck to whatever you like.
 

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I can't remember... does the Vapor Shark rDNA30 fire at .5 ohm? That would be the only device I have that would firethis tank (and look semi good doing it) if so. Provari, nay; REO nay lol; Spinner II nope, not that one either. I guess I could look it up and will if no replies.

The Evolv DNA 30 ( the board/chip that is in the rDNA 30 ) works with resistance of 0.5Ω to 3.0Ω
 

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and from your perspective, what issues does it suffer from, and what more r &d would you be refering...
keeping in mind the tank was made to be used with kangers battery, taking a page from inokins play book...

Hard to keep in mind a mod I've never seen Ellipsis since Kanger hasn't released it yet, but I guess you are referring to the 25mm diameter of the tank and many people's aversion to the size. I agree that I would rather see a slimmer tank so I don't need to wait for a mod that fits this tank well. But I don't see that as a real problem at all, just a personal preference. I also would probably continue to use this on my existing mods anyway instead of buying the Kanger mod unleass the new mod turns out to be something really innovative for one reason or another.

Here are a few things I've noticed that I think deserve a little greater attention and would make this a better tank.

I don't really like that standard drip tips don't sit flush in the tank and have a gap between the tank top and the drip tip base. Not ascetically pleasing to me. I know this has been the case with Kanger tanks for years and for whatever reason they have chosen to continue this with the Subtank. Since drip tips have been pretty standardized in the depth of the part that goes into the tank I don't see why this is perpetuated in their latest flagship tank. Many people prefer to use their own drip tips, so I would like to see this revisited by Kanger.

I don't like the heat of the drip tip during vaping. It's a little odd since the warmth of the vapor is very pleasant at 25watts, but for some reason the drip tip at that power level feels hot to the point of discomfort. As a result, I never vape above 20watts. The good news is that the Subtank gives good flavor and a nice volume of vapor between 15 and 20watts, so it's still a very nice vape but I would like to bump it up a bit more to get better warmth from the vapor. I think better engineering could have balanced the heat a bit better.

When I took this tank filled with 4ml of juice to an altitude 3500ft lower than my altitude (I do this several times per week) I found all the juice had leaked out of the tank and covered everything in my vape case. Not a nice surprise. My Kayfuns have been known to do this, but my Aspires and Aerotanks (both regular Aerotank and Mega) have never done this. So know I now better than to try that again. Granted not a problem for most, but kind of a big deal for me.

I don't like that the tank spits a bit of juice after sitting a few minutes when I first hit the fire button. I have frequently gotten juice in the mouth as a result. This could possibly from the rushed revisions of coil development during the last month before release. Perhaps the BPDC coils didn't do this, but this is a small issue with the OCC that the tank was released with. I now combat this with pressing the fire button before putting the drip tip to my mouth so I don't get that initial popping juice in my mouth. Overall, I would rather that I didn't have to vape that way and I could just use this like the other tanks I have that don't spit.

I'm not a fan of the bottom spring 510 connection. Might not be an issue, but I have never liked using a small spring as part of conductivity in any device. Like with the Nautilus that did the same thing, it helps make sure there is connection but it doesn't always provide the best connection. Conductivity will always be better with a solid connection. And this is especially true over a long period of time.

I really didn't like that when I opened the box there was a strong smell of machine oil. While there was no actual oily residue that could be felt on parts, each piece strongly smelled of machine oil. While it was easy to clean the tank pieces in an ultrasonic the spare cotton was trashed because it smelled bad too, even in it's ziplocked baggie and there was no easy way to clean the coils. I think in Kanger's haste to meet production demands they just didn't take the time to properly clean these. All the tanks 3 of my local vape shops have opened have had the same smell. Hopefully as Kanger gets caught up on production they will take a bit more time on cleanliness.

I found the build deck a let down for 2 reasons. The airflow wasn't anywhere near what I had imagined it would be. It was very restrictive compared to the premade coils and that surprised me. For those who like a bit better than a Kayfun airflow you will be quite happy with the build deck. I was just expecting a vape similar to the prebuilt coils and really don't appreciate the restricted airflow. This will just be personal preference. The second thing is vaping the stock coils that come on the build deck take a full 2 seconds to heatup at 20watts, and anything above 20 watts for me results in an uncomfortably hot driptip. So pushing the wattage to heat coils quicker is just not an option for me. Probably a single coil or thinner ga wire with a dual coil could help this quite bit, but given I really don't enjoy the airflow I probably won't bother.

None of the above make this a bad tank. In fact, I think Kanger has stepped up to the plate nicely with an answer to the Atlantis and put out another product that just makes the whole vape experience better. So for any thinking that I'm bashing the tank and you shouldn't buy on as a result, please don't think that way. I have recommended this tank to quite a few friends, and other than a few quirks that I think could be made better quite easily, I think this is a stellar tank and deserves a lot of praise. So the above is just an opinion on a few things I've noticed and I will continue to recommend this tank with the mention of a few caveats.

BTW, this message is in response to Ellipses request for what I considered issues, so that's what I covered. But I have just as many positives about the tank... probably more positives. So don't consider this a negative review of the Subtank, because it's not.
 

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Hard to keep in mind a mod I've never seen Ellipsis since Kanger hasn't released it yet, but I guess you are referring to the 25mm diameter of the tank and many people's aversion to the size. I agree that I would rather see a slimmer tank so I don't need to wait for a mod that fits this tank well. But I don't see that as a real problem at all, just a personal preference. I also would probably continue to use this on my existing mods anyway instead of buying the Kanger mod unleass the new mod turns out to be something really innovative for one reason or another.

Here are a few things I've noticed that I think deserve a little greater attention and would make this a better tank.

I don't really like that standard drip tips don't sit flush in the tank and have a gap between the tank top and the drip tip base. Not ascetically pleasing to me. I know this has been the case with Kanger tanks for years and for whatever reason they have chosen to continue this with the Subtank. Since drip tips have been pretty standardized in the depth of the part that goes into the tank I don't see why this is perpetuated in their latest flagship tank. Many people prefer to use their own drip tips, so I would like to see this revisited by Kanger.

I don't like the heat of the drip tip during vaping. It's a little odd since the warmth of the vapor is very pleasant at 25watts, but for some reason the drip tip at that power level feels hot to the point of discomfort. As a result, I never vape above 20watts. The good news is that the Subtank gives good flavor and a nice volume of vapor between 15 and 20watts, so it's still a very nice vape but I would like to bump it up a bit more to get better warmth from the vapor. I think better engineering could have balanced the heat a bit better.

When I took this tank filled with 4ml of juice to an altitude 3500ft lower than my altitude (I do this several times per week) I found all the juice had leaked out of the tank and covered everything in my vape case. Not a nice surprise. My Kayfuns have been known to do this, but my Aspires and Aerotanks (both regular Aerotank and Mega) have never done this. So know I now better than to try that again. Granted not a problem for most, but kind of a big deal for me.

I don't like that the tank spits a bit of juice after sitting a few minutes when I first hit the fire button. I have frequently gotten juice in the mouth as a result. This could possibly from the rushed revisions of coil development during the last month before release. Perhaps the BPDC coils didn't do this, but this is a small issue with the OCC that the tank was released with. I now combat this with pressing the fire button before putting the drip tip to my mouth so I don't get that initial popping juice in my mouth. Overall, I would rather that I didn't have to vape that way and I could just use this like the other tanks I have that don't spit.

I'm not a fan of the bottom spring 510 connection. Might not be an issue, but I have never liked using a small spring as part of conductivity in any device. Like with the Nautilus that did the same thing, it helps make sure there is connection but it doesn't always provide the best connection. Conductivity will always be better with a solid connection. And this is especially true over a long period of time.

I really didn't like that when I opened the box there was a strong smell of machine oil. While there was no actual oily residue that could be felt on parts, each piece strongly smelled of machine oil. While it was easy to clean the tank pieces in an ultrasonic the spare cotton was trashed because it smelled bad too, even in it's ziplocked baggie and there was no easy way to clean the coils. I think in Kanger's haste to meet production demands they just didn't take the time to properly clean these. All the tanks 3 of my local vape shops have opened have had the same smell. Hopefully as Kanger gets caught up on production they will take a bit more time on cleanliness.

I found the build deck a let down for 2 reasons. The airflow wasn't anywhere near what I had imagined it would be. It was very restrictive compared to the premade coils and that surprised me. For those who like a bit better than a Kayfun airflow you will be quite happy with the build deck. I was just expecting a vape similar to the prebuilt coils and really don't appreciate the restricted airflow. This will just be personal preference. The second thing is vaping the stock coils that come on the build deck take a full 2 seconds to heatup at 20watts, and anything above 20 watts for me results in an uncomfortably hot driptip. So pushing the wattage to heat coils quicker is just not an option for me. Probably a single coil or thinner ga wire with a dual coil could help this quite bit, but given I really don't enjoy the airflow I probably won't bother.

None of the above make this a bad tank. In fact, I think Kanger has stepped up to the plate nicely with an answer to the Atlantis and put out another product that just makes the whole vape experience better. So for any thinking that I'm bashing the tank and you shouldn't buy on as a result, please don't think that way. I have recommended this tank to quite a few friends, and other than a few quirks that I think could be made better quite easily, I think this is a stellar tank and deserves a lot of praise. So the above is just an opinion on a few things I've noticed and I will continue to recommend this tank with the mention of a few caveats.

BTW, this message is in response to Ellipses request for what I considered issues, so that's what I covered. But I have just as many positives about the tank... probably more positives. So don't consider this a negative review of the Subtank, because it's not.
Nice review :)
 

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thank you for your honest appraisal of the kanger tank...
way too many " fanboy reviews" out there that leave a lot to be desired...
you covered things that often are overlooked or not even considered...
i was wondering about the 510 pin/spring and nickel wire builds myself...
i hope you didnt take my earlier post in a negative way, it wasnt meant to be condescending, i was interested in what your thought were...
thank you again for taking the time to answer
 

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Got my Sub Tank yesterday. Rocking Mothers Milkshake from Yaeliq. Flavor is much better than the Atlantis. Not as airy but thats ok. This is working perfectly. Almost big enough to fit flush on the E Huge.

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Did my first build on the rebuildable deck -- not bad. Wicking is excellent. I was concerned about how it would handle high VG juices given how small the juice channels are, but I've been through 2 tanks without a dry hit.

Used the dual coils that come pre-installed on the desk, so this really wasn't a real build but rather just a wicking. Metered at 0.5 ohms. A little too hot of a vape for my taste, so I'm going to try just a single coil next time and see how that performs.

The airflow is reduced when the rebuildable deck is used. Not a whole lot -- all three airflow holes open was about the same as two airflow holes open when using the pre-built heads. Decent, but not stellar flavor.

The only problem I had was getting the tiny, tiny screws out to switch out the upper portion of the tank to the rebuildable mode. They were ridiculously tight and the screw heads are so small getting leverage was difficult.
 

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Looks and sounds great. :)

What's with the 510 though, seems like it protrudes a lot?

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That pin at the bottom @CaFF is spring loaded so it fits most things without adjustment I love this tank alot actually, more so then my atlantis
 

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thank you for your honest appraisal of the kanger tank...
way too many " fanboy reviews" out there that leave a lot to be desired...
you covered things that often are overlooked or not even considered...
i was wondering about the 510 pin/spring and nickel wire builds myself...
i hope you didnt take my earlier post in a negative way, it wasnt meant to be condescending, i was interested in what your thought were...
thank you again for taking the time to answer

No worries Ellipsis, your post is relevant and concise. I really do like this tank, despite the few quirks I mentioned. This tank definitely moves vaping forward in a very positive way and deserves my respect. I take no offense and didn't see your post as negative. But it did convince me to put up a more complete post of the Subtank from my perspective. So kudos to you for making me provide a bit more information as I see it. Agree or disagree with my views on this tank, I can clearly say that this tank has moved vaping in a more positive direction just as the Atlantis tank has. I think it is especially positive that Kanger has found a way to significantly improve vaping at a lower wattage levels. This is huge in my opinion. Providing a great vape experience in the 15 to 20watt range is revolutionary, rather than the evolutionary high wattage better vape production of most devices these days. I think most devices that demand higher wattage are ignoring the fact that better tech can achieve a satisfying vape at a more sedate wattage is truly an ideal to be emulated and congratulate Kanger for the wisdom in showing that high wattage is not really the best way forward for vapers. I truly tire at seeing mods passing the 100watt level convincing people that more wattage means a better vape experience. And Kanger has clearly put this rumor to rest. A well made mod at 15 to 20watts can seriously compete with the 100watt crowd in vapor and flavor and deliver a consistent good quality vape at reasonable power levels.

Good for Kanger showing the way to satisfying low wattage vaping, and thanks to you Ellipsis for forcing me to voice my opinions, regardless of how the high wattage vapers will perceive my opinions.
 

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I ordered one and 50ml of juice. From two different companies. Both had a ETA of Tuesday. Both are on there way to my house out for delivery as we speak Whoot Whoot. Not bad for ordering them in Christmas eve and then not being shipped till Friday. Both were first class, not priority. Post office got it rich for once.
 

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I ordered one and 50ml of juice. From two different companies. Both had a ETA of Tuesday. Both are on there way to my house out for delivery as we speak Whoot Whoot. Not bad for ordering them in Christmas eve and then not being shipped till Friday. Both were first class, not priority. Post office got it rich for once.

That's great to hear. I'm sure you will LOVE this tank. Everyone I know that has purchased one has been very pleased with it. I think without question this is the best tank on the market now, be it RBA or Clearomizer, this is an all in one package. I am going to be getting one real soon. If my instincts are correct I have a strong feeling that Kangertech will release a smaller version around 19-22mm and 3ml capacity, which would make me very happy and I'm sure many other fellow vapors in our global community. Be sure you're getting them from reputable vendors who get their stock from registered suppliers there's a lot of counterfeit gear flooding the market. I like www.vaporbeast.com so I use them and a few others so I can recommend them to others without hesitation, they do free shipping to boot and that will save money. Be sure to check your authenticity code on Kanger's website to make sure you got an authentic tank. They are incorporating new security safeguards/stickers to promote buyer confidence. I don't have an issue with vendors selling clones but I do have an issue when people are not informed ahead of time. I believe in honesty up front so that the consumer can make an informed decision. Some clones work really well and do the job others fail instantly or within a short period of time. I try to stick with authentic vape gear as much as possible but sometimes even the vendors don't know if what they are getting is original or not. I had a friend who bought a Kanger Aerotank V2 tank, one of my favorites, and when I looked at her model and my original, the difference was so minor that it could have easily passed off for an authentic tank. Anyhow, good for you on getting this tank, it's a beauty. Let us know your impressions. Happy Holidays.
 

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Another great thing about the Subtank is that if you don't have a high powered mod for sub ohms you can still use the 1.2 ohm organic cotton coil with moderate powered mods. I used a friend's Subtank on my Eleaf i Stick between 10-14 watts and got a very nice vape, even though it looked awkward due to its massive size and heft, but that's only aesthetics and entirely subjective. I really like this tank a lot it offers so much in one small package, well large package:D
 
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I agree with the low power requirements of this mod Dissonance. Even the 0.5ohm coil performs quite nicely at 20watts. Like you said, it might look a little odd on an iStick, but it certainly doesn't vape oddly. And remember, the iStick at 20watts really performs much closer to 24 or 25watts on an RMS device. So really quite a nice power level. Not everyone is looking for the fattest cloudz, and even 20watts is very satisfying with this tank with either coil head.
 

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Yes, I agree. I'm personally not into all the 150-200 watt devices flooding the market. I don't really see a need for them but some people like them and that's alright, just not for me. I wouldn't recommend anyone use the .5 ohm coil on the i Stick because it can be dangerous and it's not a sub ohm device. The lowest limit for the i Stick is 1 ohm. I got a good vape from the 1.2 ohm on the i Stick but for this tank I think I would enjoy it more on the IPV Mini or any device that will reach 30 watts. But anyone who has the i Stick and wants to run it on 1.2 ohm stock coil should be fine. I'm hoping that Kangertech will release new organic cotton coils between 1.5-3.0 resistance for this tank and even better make them backwards compatible with the Aerotanks, that would be grand. I'm sure they will cost more but I will be happy to pay for the better quality and healthier vape. One thing is for sure they are leading the way for future progress.
 

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Ahhh... Good point on the iStick and 1.0ohm being the lowest it can fire. You are absolutely correct. The 1.2 should work great like you said.

I do have a 150watt IPV3... that I use at 20 to 25watts, lol. I just like the 2 18650s that only need to be charged every 2 days or so. Even at lower watts it's a great mod with solid regulation even at sedate wattage. I vaped the IPV3 for a weekend when I first got it with a .2ohm build at 100watts on my Plumeveil, but THB, it was a bit much for me. But fun for a short while.
 

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That's great to hear. I'm sure you will LOVE this tank. Everyone I know that has purchased one has been very pleased with it. I think without question this is the best tank on the market now, be it RBA or Clearomizer, this is an all in one package. I am going to be getting one real soon. If my instincts are correct I have a strong feeling that Kangertech will release a smaller version around 19-22mm and 3ml capacity, which would make me very happy and I'm sure many other fellow vapors in our global community. Be sure you're getting them from reputable vendors who get their stock from registered suppliers there's a lot of counterfeit gear flooding the market. I like www.vaporbeast.com so I use them and a few others so I can recommend them to others without hesitation, they do free shipping to boot and that will save money. Be sure to check your authenticity code on Kanger's website to make sure you got an authentic tank. They are incorporating new security safeguards/stickers to promote buyer confidence. I don't have an issue with vendors selling clones but I do have an issue when people are not informed ahead of time. I believe in honesty up front so that the consumer can make an informed decision. Some clones work really well and do the job others fail instantly or within a short period of time. I try to stick with authentic vape gear as much as possible but sometimes even the vendors don't know if what they are getting is original or not. I had a friend who bought a Kanger Aerotank V2 tank, one of my favorites, and when I looked at her model and my original, the difference was so minor that it could have easily passed off for an authentic tank. Anyhow, good for you on getting this tank, it's a beauty. Let us know your impressions. Happy Holidays.



It come with a 22mm base that threads on. Similar to a beauty ring for a ego, but much shorter and stream line. It looks good with it on a box mod. I'm not using it though. My one bitch about this tank is that the ring included will not fit flush on my IPV2. Not bad, it is aesthetic performs great and it doesn't look bad without the ring and the tank sits flush. I would have liked to use the ring to taper it on the the box. Not really bad at all. That is a very very minor complaint for a new product lol.
 

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Glad you like it. It's an excellent tank and if it works for you that's really all that matters. Kanger was smart to include the 22mm base to better align the tank on different mods, especially considering all of the careful thought that went into putting this incredible tank together. You can get them now for $45 and coils for $15 that's a very good price for all you get. I thought it was going to sell for around $60 as was listed on Kanger's website but I think $15 less is a substantial drop and much more affordable now. Eventually it will drop to $40. Vendors are selling these tanks like candy, the demand will likely continue for a long time. I would suspect that everyone who got them as a gift for themselves or others have had a very satisfying Christmas. I bought one for a friend and they were happy, that's all that matters to me. Good note to end the year on and onto 2015 we go.. Enjoy your tank and Happy Holidays!
 
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i ordered the tank with additional 1.2 and .5 ohm heads from kanger tech, recieved the tank and coils in 4 days...
im a dripper and i also use the russian 91%...bought the tank due to the interest shown by my girlfriend...
first impressions... its a friggin' massive tank, packaged and presented well. it smelled horribly of machine oil and took 3 wash /rinse cycles to rid it of the oil/film. machine quality and overall tank quality is rather impressive, fit and finish is really nice...
air flow is comparable to the doge wide open and closed down to 1 hole is more than my magma with both its large holes open...
that being said... with suicide bunny mothers milk installed... the flavor profile of this eliquid, that im used to in the russian at 11.5 watts, didnt even start to show up until i ran it up to 40 watts with 2 air holes providing air supply with the .5 ohm head installed... took it to 45 watts and the mouthpiece was uncomfortably hot and the heat from the vapor overpowered the flavor, making it a less than pleasurable vape...
initially when breaking in the coil, i started out at 15 watts and took 20 pulls from the 15 watts to 25 watts ( it took that many pulls to rid the wick/coil of a funky taste) then repeated taking it from 15 watts to 25 watts... the flavor profile of the e-liquid was barely noticeable...
the girlfriend took over from there...
her impression of the vape from the recommended 15 to 30 watt range was less than stellar, she wasnt impressed...
opened it up to 2 holes and took it from 30 to 35 watts and , "now we're cooking", was here comment...she was able to take it from 35 to 45 watts with all 3 air holes open without issue, but commented that the vape became severely muted with that much airlow...she is currently settled in at 35 watts with 2 open air holes and handed me the russian 91 back, with a hug, a giggle and a kiss, she uttered "thank you honey" ... we proceeded to settle in on the couch to watch scorpion king on cable. her with the sub tank, me with the russian...
havent tried the 1.2 ohm head yet, will run the .5 to see how long it lasts before it needs replaced...
did i mention the tank is friggin" massive...
vapor production...vapor production is impressive for what it is...i did expect more, but it is impressive...
personally i think folks have over hyped the tank, the girlfriend says its better flavorwise than most tanks shes had, but you gotta push it past what kanger has stamped on the coil to get it to perform, she was less than impressed until it started cooking at 35 watts...
now thats with mothers milk...she has some heathers heavenly vapes tobacco, some mr eliquids brain matter ( i think thats what its called), and a killer raspberry that she wants to try in this beast, yet...
last words... not going to tell anyone to absolutely get this, nor, am i going to tell folks to fuggedaboudit...
its totally your call if massive airflow options, cotton wicking, and something with the ability to handle more than 8 1/2 to 9 watts is what you think your looking for... just dont buy into the hype...its nowhere near a dripper...and getting closer to a russian/kayfun flavor profile...
if your tired of your non rebuildable tank and looking for something more, this one could be the one...
just wanted to be a different voice with a different take
will come back later when the higher ohm coil is used, different flavor profile eliquids have been used with the varying pg/vg ratios, and have had a chance to test run the rebuildable deck...
test vaping was accomplished using an ipv3 with the lg batteries...
looking forward to also trying this beast on a dna40/nickel build...both on the rebuildable deck and with the replaceable heads tore down and recoiled with ni200...
sorry for the obnoxiously long first impression post...
more will come as we/she settles in and uses this bad boy to its fullest potential, whatever that will be...
 

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i ordered the tank with additional 1.2 and .5 ohm heads from kanger tech, recieved the tank and coils in 4 days...
im a dripper and i also use the russian 91%...bought the tank due to the interest shown by my girlfriend...
first impressions... its a friggin' massive tank, packaged and presented well. it smelled horribly of machine oil and took 3 wash /rinse cycles to rid it of the oil/film. machine quality and overall tank quality is rather impressive, fit and finish is really nice...
air flow is comparable to the doge wide open and closed down to 1 hole is more than my magma with both its large holes open...
that being said... with suicide bunny mothers milk installed... the flavor profile of this eliquid, that im used to in the russian at 11.5 watts, didnt even start to show up until i ran it up to 40 watts with 2 air holes providing air supply with the .5 ohm head installed... took it to 45 watts and the mouthpiece was uncomfortably hot and the heat from the vapor overpowered the flavor, making it a less than pleasurable vape...
initially when breaking in the coil, i started out at 15 watts and took 20 pulls from the 15 watts to 25 watts ( it took that many pulls to rid the wick/coil of a funky taste) then repeated taking it from 15 watts to 25 watts... the flavor profile of the e-liquid was barely noticeable...
the girlfriend took over from there...
her impression of the vape from the recommended 15 to 30 watt range was less than stellar, she wasnt impressed...
opened it up to 2 holes and took it from 30 to 35 watts and , "now we're cooking", was here comment...she was able to take it from 35 to 45 watts with all 3 air holes open without issue, but commented that the vape became severely muted with that much airlow...she is currently settled in at 35 watts with 2 open air holes and handed me the russian 91 back, with a hug, a giggle and a kiss, she uttered "thank you honey" ... we proceeded to settle in on the couch to watch scorpion king on cable. her with the sub tank, me with the russian...
havent tried the 1.2 ohm head yet, will run the .5 to see how long it lasts before it needs replaced...
did i mention the tank is friggin" massive...
vapor production...vapor production is impressive for what it is...i did expect more, but it is impressive...
personally i think folks have over hyped the tank, the girlfriend says its better flavorwise than most tanks shes had, but you gotta push it past what kanger has stamped on the coil to get it to perform, she was less than impressed until it started cooking at 35 watts...
now thats with mothers milk...she has some heathers heavenly vapes tobacco, some mr eliquids brain matter ( i think thats what its called), and a killer raspberry that she wants to try in this beast, yet...
last words... not going to tell anyone to absolutely get this, nor, am i going to tell folks to fuggedaboudit...
its totally your call if massive airflow options, cotton wicking, and something with the ability to handle more than 8 1/2 to 9 watts is what you think your looking for... just dont buy into the hype...its nowhere near a dripper...and getting closer to a russian/kayfun flavor profile...
if your tired of your non rebuildable tank and looking for something more, this one could be the one...
just wanted to be a different voice with a different take
will come back later when the higher ohm coil is used, different flavor profile eliquids have been used with the varying pg/vg ratios, and have had a chance to test run the rebuildable deck...
test vaping was accomplished using an ipv3 with the lg batteries...
looking forward to also trying this beast on a dna40/nickel build...both on the rebuildable deck and with the replaceable heads tore down and recoiled with ni200...
sorry for the obnoxiously long first impression post...
more will come as we/she settles in and uses this bad boy to its fullest potential, whatever that will be...


Dude thank you you are the first to answer the question i have been having im a flavor junkie and so far i cant put my darkhorse RDA down i switched to it after using the large rda drip tank(flavor on dark horse RAPES the flavor on the big dripper) i vape at 100 watts plus (100 seems to be my sweetspot) so i need lots of airflow from the reviews i kept getting the impression that this allowed for very good airflow and ive been hoping to run into a tank that can handle 100 watts plus but i guess for now my only choice is the big dripper the wait continues
 

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well.we disagree on the dark horse being a flavor atty, dont own the big dripper, so i have no comment on that one...
if you were anticipating the sub tank being able to take 100+ watts, im not the one whos gunna go there:eek:...i wuss out at 40-45 watts...
the sub tank has impressive airflow options and from what i gather (and cant imagine) is the atlantis has slightly more airflow...
not really a high wattage guy, good hunting for that 100+ watt tank, just dont think the sub tank can pull that one off, i could be wrong , though...:D
 

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100 watts of power oh my.... That may just be enough to power the flux capicitor for Michael J. Fox in Back to The Future.
 

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I can't remember... does the Vapor Shark rDNA30 fire at .5 ohm? That would be the only device I have that would firethis tank (and look semi good doing it) if so. Provari, nay; REO nay lol; Spinner II nope, not that one either. I guess I could look it up and will if no replies.
Yep, will fire at .5 ohm.
 

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well.we disagree on the dark horse being a flavor atty, dont own the big dripper, so i have no comment on that one...
if you were anticipating the sub tank being able to take 100+ watts, im not the one whos gunna go there:eek:...i wuss out at 40-45 watts...
the sub tank has impressive airflow options and from what i gather (and cant imagine) is the atlantis has slightly more airflow...
not really a high wattage guy, good hunting for that 100+ watt tank, just dont think the sub tank can pull that one off, i could be wrong , though...:D
see that's the thing I'm willing to go down in power usage I just have yet to find anything that can outperform my current build flavor wise I actually hate the rediculous amount of vape that comes off my ecig so much so that I hold it in and take additional breathes and blow it out the sides so it doesn't obstruct my view while driving and stuff I've tried the fogger I've tried the kayfun the aqua :/ at many different power settings as well but man once I hit 50 watts on the ipv2 any lower power setting tastes flavorless (to me) not to mention the lack of throat hit [Sorry op for getting off subject]I'm not sure that the dark horse is meant to be a flavor rda but so far it's giving me phenomenal flavor
 

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The Subtank is pure class. It's big and hefty so it will pair better will larger mods but with its elegant appearance and vast features it can't be beat. There will be a smaller version probably 3ml coming real soon with a smaller diameter. When that happens I can't see myself shopping for another tank. This has it all from good flavor to OCC coils to having the ability to rebuild and use older coils. Not surprising that they are selling out everywhere.
 

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oh man.....on vapinggreeks instagram he is showing off the new 22 mm and 18mm mini and nano subtanks.....the 25 was what was holding me back and keeping me with the atlantis, i might be able to switch up now, my tongue and throat have been a bit tender since switching to the whatever fiber that aspire is using.
 

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Anyone looking to pick up a Subtank cheap go here www.evape.us only $39. They ship for free. Everyone is selling out these tanks and for good reason, it's because they're the best. This is one tank that will be very hard to top IMHO. If I could give Kanger a Gold medal for this I would, they earned it.
 
I can't remember... does the Vapor Shark rDNA30 fire at .5 ohm? That would be the only device I have that would firethis tank (and look semi good doing it) if so. Provari, nay; REO nay lol; Spinner II nope, not that one either. I guess I could look it up and will if no replies.

My rDNA 30 will fire an Atlantis (my daily setup) but I just got home from buying the Subtank, and it WILL NOT fire the RBA that comes pre-installed. Ohm reader pegs it at .49, and .55 for Atlantis coils. The mod itself reads Atlantis coils at .6 ohm, but "Check Atomizer" for the subtank RBAs (at least, the pre-made ones). I'm sure it will fire if I throw another wrap on myself, but I'm gonna finish this Atlantis tank full first.
 

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The Evolve DNA 30 will fire ( by the specs ) a 0.5Ω and up to a 3.0Ω coil... due to the way electronics are, some my fire a coil slightly lower than spec but don't count on it.

The coils you get from the manufacturers will have a certain percentage of tolerance that ie the ± numbers that are listed next to their ohms... so an Aspire or a Kanger ( or other brand ) coil may be marked as a 0.5Ω but it's within the tolerance spec they list so the coil you grab may be 0.5Ω or just above or below that. Luckily Kanger, unlike Aspire, also has a 1.2Ω that works just fine.

By the way... my 0.5Ω measure exactly that and worked on my VS DNA 30 just fine before I moved it over to my 100w mod. Looking at the 5 pack of coils I got... I don't see what their accepted tolerance they expect from these coils and I didn't see it listed on their website. If you are interested, perhaps you can drop their support an email to find out.
 

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Just came here to start a thread on the Sub-Tank. This has got to be the best purchase I have mad in awhile. It's fuckin sick. I buy 99% of my hardware online, but after I got off work I went into my favorite B&M (BIG SHOUT OUT TO Rogue Vapers in Little Rock) to pick up a 120ml bottle of my ADV, the thing was calling to me. I have to say the quality is superb, the taste (& I'm a Kayfun fanboy) is beyond stellar!!!!! Beats MY Taifun GT and GS hands down (both authentic), did I mention, I'm a vape snob. I am still in awe. Cannot wait to do a build on it. I would also like to mention that a friend of mine received a SMOK Xpro MX 50. This lil mutherfucker is very well made, great lookin, and I really dig the board. I thought it contained a YiHi SX 300 or 330, but the menu reads like a Evolv is some respects. Regardless, he is gonna let me test drive it for a few weeks. If it functions as well as it does now, I'm buying one. Please excuse the off thread rant. I never thought I would purchase Chinese mods of this sort, but my mind is quickly changing!
 
I've been vaping the subtank all day with the .5 atomizer (not the RBA deck, like I said it won't fire at .49) and at this point I'm fairly confident that I'd recommend it over the Atlantis with one caveat - it's pretty large, so the Atlantis is easier to handle as an everyday carry as long as the juice capacity will last you.

A note on tolerances, the pre-built atomizer I got was exactly .50 according to my meter, but the RBA deck's double coil measured .49 - I wound a couple kanthal coils with an extra wrap and I'm gonna try it out for the next few hours.
 

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As long as I've used replaceable coil heads, most of which are Kanger... there will be variations of the resistances. As I mentioned... my 0.5Ω was ( used it up already, have more here tomorrow or Monday ) on the money... the 1.2Ω is coming in under at 1.1Ω

On the Protank and Aerotank line of heads... I usually see a ±0.2 variance around the marked value... only time will tell what we see on the Subtank line of heads.
 

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As long as I've used replaceable coil heads, most of which are Kanger... there will be variations of the resistances. As I mentioned... my 0.5Ω was ( used it up already, have more here tomorrow or Monday ) on the money... the 1.2Ω is coming in under at 1.1Ω

On the Protank and Aerotank line of heads... I usually see a ±0.2 variance around the marked value... only time will tell what we see on the Subtank line of heads.
I have noticed the same, but when they get nice and saturated they almost always come in at stated value, for me anyway.
 

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So i have had my sub tank for a bit. I noticed something. I do not need to boost this as high as other vape gear. I vape 30-50w. Why not higher? I have an IPV2 and only have 59w to work with. With the sub tank I am vaping at 15-16w with the heads and 12-13.5w on the RDA. I do not need the power to get a good vape.

Has anyone else had this happen?
 

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I have the Atlantis and the subtank, I have been vaping the Atlantis at 25watts, so when I got the subtank I went with the same 25watts, but get dry hits with it, I have found I can only vape at 20watts with the subtank, still a good vape, not sure if not got a great coil with it, as heard others vaping it at 25 watts.
 

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Hearsay... tallied only in my head...

Most vapers that are reporting what settings they vape with... on the Atlantis I hear a lot say they use 25w-35w... on the Subtank I hear mostly 15w-25w. I've heard several of each go up to the top end and over... a few go lower. I suspect most of those reports were using the coil heads and not the RTA deck.
 

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Got my Kanger Sub Ohm yesterday and have been vapeing the hell out of it. Went straight to the RBA and their pre built coils. The flavor is superb, the Cyclops juice I been vapeing kicks butt
 

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I just read a post from Matt( suckmymod) he said kanger is coming out with a 18mm and 22mm subtank along with a mod for the 25mm tank.


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