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do RTA's spill or leak ?
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I got my stuff, 2 days, fedex, free. the recurve rdt came with 3 nice coils. but I know I would ruin them. so I am going to start buy using the 10ft coil master 24gkanthal a1 wire that came with the kit. the first thing I will do is disconnect the end of the wire on the spool. then throw it on the floor = get the spool bird nest thing out of the way 
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I did try the RDA. the first coil, well, it wasn't a coil, it was a spool, lol. the second coil turned out ok enough to try. it ohmed at about 1 ohm and looked to heat pretty evenly. 6 turns on a 30 rod. I wicked it up, kind of a pita. soaked in juice and let it sit. it ohmed my mod at .50.
tried different watts, 30-60. not even trying, big clouds, at least for me, with little hits. but the juice was tasting funny, not burnt, but funny.
BUT, I am getting this taste from my other 2 tanks, but not as much. soooo, maybe its me, idk.
anyway. I tried to find beginner vids. the few I looked at were shitty. so I just took a shot at it.
tried different watts, 30-60. not even trying, big clouds, at least for me, with little hits. but the juice was tasting funny, not burnt, but funny.
BUT, I am getting this taste from my other 2 tanks, but not as much. soooo, maybe its me, idk.
anyway. I tried to find beginner vids. the few I looked at were shitty. so I just took a shot at it.
yeah, that's what I did. I think I have vape tongue. my current juice is tasting watered down, no matter what it is in.
if this is the case, my first RDA hits were SUPER watered down flavor, lol.
which is AWESOME. as when I get my taste back = WOW !!!!!!!!!!!
I am switching tonight in my SKRR and the RDA that I just rewicked. see how that goes. with a few beers.
I forget now why I asked you that. 
You have the recurve RDA right?
I used to get vapor's tongue pretty bad. I found that I was pointing the vapor directly at my tongue and I made a conscious effort to learn to direct it straight down my throat, which still does hit my tongue some anyway. Actually the flavor turned out better and I no longer get vapor's tongue. Can't promise it would be the same for you, but there it is.
You have the recurve RDA right?
I used to get vapor's tongue pretty bad. I found that I was pointing the vapor directly at my tongue and I made a conscious effort to learn to direct it straight down my throat, which still does hit my tongue some anyway. Actually the flavor turned out better and I no longer get vapor's tongue. Can't promise it would be the same for you, but there it is.
yeah, the RECURVE, 6 turns coil master kanthal 24g on a 3mm with coil master cotton.
last night I used it for what it was intended for = tasting new flavors. worked well. though I didn't get the easy clouds I did the first try. I did rewick it, so perhaps that caused that. idk.
so, the first real coil I made ( making a spool doesn't count. that's my story and I'm sticking to it) works at least fairly well.
and I switched flavors, that took care of the tongue.
I am getting so good at this, I am going to open some vape shops and start doing reviews.
last night I used it for what it was intended for = tasting new flavors. worked well. though I didn't get the easy clouds I did the first try. I did rewick it, so perhaps that caused that. idk.
so, the first real coil I made ( making a spool doesn't count. that's my story and I'm sticking to it) works at least fairly well.
and I switched flavors, that took care of the tongue.
I am getting so good at this, I am going to open some vape shops and start doing reviews.
ok, best I know or can do = idk where, or even if, my camera has macro.
the recurve color. the tip is highly exaggerated = its much darker than that, but not dark = looks GREAT. the tank is MUCH mutted, look at the lighter color, the TINY glare on it, that is the real color = a very cool darkish blue chrome, sweet.
the recurve color. the tip is highly exaggerated = its much darker than that, but not dark = looks GREAT. the tank is MUCH mutted, look at the lighter color, the TINY glare on it, that is the real color = a very cool darkish blue chrome, sweet.
The Dead Rabbit or The Glaz don't leak.......
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used the RDA again last night, for it intended purpose, to test samples. boy, did I make some BAD choices in samples. about all of them are bad, and some BAD. perhaps the 50/50 has something to do with that. looks like I like higher VG.
I also tried the Intake. looks like I wicked it to thick, dry hits =
I did watch the Mike Vapes, the designer, vid on this.
I think it will do just fine once I get er running right.
I also tried the Intake. looks like I wicked it to thick, dry hits =
I did watch the Mike Vapes, the designer, vid on this.
I think it will do just fine once I get er running right.
I shoot with my phone and crop the image .....
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I used the recurve all last night. but I did put in 1 of the coils that came with it = it looks much like the one in Mannys pic above. not sure what they are called.
I bought 2 new tobacco flavors. 1 house brand and NAKED 100 AMERICAN PATRIOT. very different, for me anyway. I will use them up, and hopefully get to liking them, but I doubt it.
I bought 2 new tobacco flavors. 1 house brand and NAKED 100 AMERICAN PATRIOT. very different, for me anyway. I will use them up, and hopefully get to liking them, but I doubt it.
Those are 15 cores, well 2 cores and 15 ribbons..... They is big and ohm at .04 for a pair......
Framed stapled fused Claptons then I think.
I didn't even think of the ribbon even though I just ordered some. Can't see inside.
I cut a leg off and took a macro shot..... It's on this thread somewhere or maybe in the show us your build thread and Raymo called it a staple frame or Some fancy name, but on the macro you can see the two exterior leads creating the frame and count the the (15) pieces of ribbons......Framed stapled fused Claptons then I think.
I didn't even think of the ribbon even though I just ordered some. Can't see inside.
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Anybody can correct me if I'm wrong, but the way I understand it is as follows:
"Framed" means there is wire of some kind on each side that frames the part in the middle.
If the part in the middle is ribbon, it's called "stapled." (However this can be round frames and ribbon cores or ribbon frames and round cores or micro Clapton frames and or cores, on and on)
If there is no staggering, then that would be a "stapled fused Clapton", which means I misspoke above because there are no frames.
If the frames are "staggered", which means a Clapton wound with a space between each wrap,with a ribbon stack in the middle and then fused, that would be a staggered framed stapled fused Clapton. Or whatever order it's listed in. With no ribbon stack and there's nothing else in the middle (and therefore no frames), then it's just a staggered fused Clapton with however many cores it has.
"Fusing" is the outermost wrap that holds it all together.
With staggered fused wire, the fusing runs inside the spaces of the staggered frame and you can see all of whatever is in the middle.
AND there is a mind numbing array of combinations of those and other types, like twisted, alien Claptons, braids etc that are too numerous to mention and most certainly should be done by somebody other than me anyway.
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I'm definitely not going to be the one to dispute anything about building with Raymo btw.
"Framed" means there is wire of some kind on each side that frames the part in the middle.
If the part in the middle is ribbon, it's called "stapled." (However this can be round frames and ribbon cores or ribbon frames and round cores or micro Clapton frames and or cores, on and on)
If there is no staggering, then that would be a "stapled fused Clapton", which means I misspoke above because there are no frames.
If the frames are "staggered", which means a Clapton wound with a space between each wrap,with a ribbon stack in the middle and then fused, that would be a staggered framed stapled fused Clapton. Or whatever order it's listed in. With no ribbon stack and there's nothing else in the middle (and therefore no frames), then it's just a staggered fused Clapton with however many cores it has.
"Fusing" is the outermost wrap that holds it all together.
With staggered fused wire, the fusing runs inside the spaces of the staggered frame and you can see all of whatever is in the middle.
AND there is a mind numbing array of combinations of those and other types, like twisted, alien Claptons, braids etc that are too numerous to mention and most certainly should be done by somebody other than me anyway.
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I'm definitely not going to be the one to dispute anything about building with Raymo btw.
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Here is one you can tell me what they are called.....
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it would be nice if there was a thread showing what each is, hint hint.
anyway
I rewicked the INTAKE. now it is hitting well enough for its intended purpose. but I think I am leaving a lot on the table.
as it is now, it doesn't hit hard'ish, I'm sure its not made to. and it diminished the flavor of the Recurve. which is good right now. as the juice I was using is pretty strong, not in a good way, compared to the INTAKE. and it also seemed to loose flavor as the tank went low, NOT a good thing = the tank was not that low.
I would like to see what a properly twisted 24g wire coil looks like, so I could adjust mine.
anyway
I rewicked the INTAKE. now it is hitting well enough for its intended purpose. but I think I am leaving a lot on the table.
as it is now, it doesn't hit hard'ish, I'm sure its not made to. and it diminished the flavor of the Recurve. which is good right now. as the juice I was using is pretty strong, not in a good way, compared to the INTAKE. and it also seemed to loose flavor as the tank went low, NOT a good thing = the tank was not that low.
I would like to see what a properly twisted 24g wire coil looks like, so I could adjust mine.
I am wholly unqualified to do such a thing if that hint was pointed at me
I can't remember now. Do you have any dual coil atomizers yet?
For me too anyway, this is kinda normal. The intensity of the flavor fluctuates a bit depending on the saturation of the cotton.
By "twisted", do you mean "wrapped?" As in pulled around a jig to make the coil?
Or do you mean twisted like this:
I think you mean "wrapped".
I am wholly unqualified to do such a thing if that hint was pointed at me
I can't remember now. Do you have any dual coil atomizers yet?
For me too anyway, this is kinda normal. The intensity of the flavor fluctuates a bit depending on the saturation of the cotton.
By "twisted", do you mean "wrapped?" As in pulled around a jig to make the coil?
Or do you mean twisted like this:
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I think you mean "wrapped".
to the community as a whole.
no, I am looking hard at the tTt tank that Manny has, 3 coils, lol.
ok. I guess I still do not fully understand how it works. I will put the bubble glass back in, or I will run out.
ummm, yeah, ummmm, I guess its wrapped
still learning.that "twist" looks interesting.
anyway. just wondering how I can make my coil and wicking better
yeah, I got the coil master. remember, throwing the spool on the floor.
You’re overwicking your RBA bud. The juice vaporizes, but flows in too slowly to saturate the coil for your next hit, the dry outer rim of the cotton gets singed on your next hit.
When you wick your cotton, it should move back and forth within the coil with minimum resistance. Not all loosely goosey, just a touch of resistance. Also the ends should reach the bottom of your juice well and ever so slightly curve on the bottom. If you’re having to stuff the cotton in there, you know you’ve gone too far.
Honesty wicking is such a major determinant of the quality you get out of your RTA, I thought my old kangertech sub ohm tank was useless now, but I recently dusted it off and tried a 22G chimney build in it, with proper wicking, and the flavour is better than ever.
Keep on vaping!
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The OBS Engine is top fill, doesn't leak. I like the v2 of that one, but about the only way to get them to leak is to open the top cap and lay it down. And we're not gonna do that.
Tried to get one, my local vape shop sold out. Might order one online. Would be cool to know if it makes better clouds and flavour than the TFV8 cloud beast, that’s my primary RTA.
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Recently picked up a KALI V2 from QP Designs. These guys make seriously solid pieces of kit. The top cap walls are 2mm stainless steel. Impeccable machining. Huge postless build deck. Would love to see a 22mm KALI mini in the future.
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Depends on the coils you have in there. Aim to keep your voltage between 3.7-4.2v for best flavour.
Personally I build my coils so I can use the full range of power my mod can provide, which is 120W. Tbh though, the flavour beyond 88W or so doesn’t really change much. Becomes a game of diminishing returns.
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What does this mean? I make it a point not to mooch off other people’s vapes, but if you’re saying maybe I oughta reconsider this policy...
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lol. Mooch is the highly regarded battery reviewer. u-tube him
I used to be all about them twisted coils until I discovered that parallel coils produce a better flavour. Now I’m about them parallel coils, son.
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Here is the 1st fused Clapton I ever made
BY HAND?
How many weeks did this take?!
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I meant I held the spool in my hand and guided the wire manually as opposed to one of the more automated methods.
I actually prefer twisted, but there are a lot of other factors involved of course and everybody has their preferences. I really love Clapton over twisted.
I have two 3mm 6 wrap fused Clapton’s and tbh the vape on them is exceptionally smooth with little to no spit back , but in terms of flavour and vapour production, these 3mm 8 wrap 22 gauge coils I made with a gap in the middle are pretty much just as good.
Maybe it’s the dripper I’m using them on. It’s a 24mm KALI V2. Waiting on a 22mm wasp to see what kind of flavour I get out of a smaller RDA.
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I just got a wotofo faris today it's the rta/rda can be used as either, and I've had zero leaking. Never thought i would like rta, but this is amazing!
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while the Intake is much better than the Isub. I am now finding myself wanting even more 
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it was hitting so nice that I took to much of a hit = either burnt cotton, burnt juice, or both. thankfully it went away as it was in the morning.
so I have to find a better coil/wicking, or just get another RTA.
.it was hitting so nice that I took to much of a hit = either burnt cotton, burnt juice, or both. thankfully it went away as it was in the morning.
so I have to find a better coil/wicking, or just get another RTA.
If you're in the mood for more gear you might wanna check out the Serpent Elevate once it becomes available. It's top airflow and the design itself appears to be pretty solid (much more than the Intake IMO), lots of room for wicking. I've heard the plastic bubble tank that comes with it cracks if you sneeze too hard though, but I guess everything cannot be perfect. Wotofo has always been a solid company in my experience, so I'm guessing they might try to remedy that problem in some way too.
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Experiment with the wicking. Thinner. Shorter.while the Intake is much better than the Isub. I am now finding myself wanting even more
it was hitting so nice that I took to much of a hit = either burnt cotton, burnt juice, or both. thankfully it went away as it was in the morning.
so I have to find a better coil/wicking, or just get another RTA.
I did. the length needs to be just about right, according to Mike Vapes, the designer , u-tube vid. I made the wick so thin I about thought the juice would just run out and flood the coil. but, I "may" be able to make it thinner, will give it a try.