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Draconigena

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You get any sleep last night after the tumble escapade yesterday?
Not as much as I would have liked, but little Tigger helped a bit. I slathered my body with Ouchie Fixit Stuff before crawling in the sack, then when I got relatively positioned for hopeful sleep, Tigger walked up the bed and laid down at my chin and started pummeling my beard, then he wrapped his front paws around my neck, stuck his face under my chin, and we went to sleep that way. His attention to my uneasiness helped me shove the pains aside a bit more than I normally would have been able to do. While all the little people who live with us are often underfoot and making trouble, they also are very good at making us feel better.
 

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Not as much as I would have liked, but little Tigger helped a bit. I slathered my body with Ouchie Fixit Stuff before crawling in the sack, then when I got relatively positioned for hopeful sleep, Tigger walked up the bed and laid down at my chin and started pummeling my beard, then he wrapped his front paws around my neck, stuck his face under my chin, and we went to sleep that way. His attention to my uneasiness helped me shove the pains aside a bit more than I normally would have been able to do. While all the little people who live with us are often underfoot and making trouble, they also are very good at making us feel better.
That's all that counts...!
 

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i can gve the scientists views on that article

bottom line is ... the use of processed human waste on agricultural farms is a sound and practical method for its disposal, and the recovery of valuable nutrients and minerals that would otherwise go into the waterways is an environmental bonus

however .. and what his article mostly focuses on is the corruption that pervades the waste disposal industry and industry in general

this is a real problem when allowed to happen

you cannot legally dispose of heavy metals or toxins through the public sewerage treatment system and monitoring for it must be rigorous and real time continuous
if its in there some prick has dumped it illegally .. any part of the waste stream that it contaminates must be sent for separate recovery and treatment

bio toxins and live e-coli bacteria are removed by steam or other heat treatment during the drying process, the correct temperatures must be met and sustained for the correct amount of time

medical waste is routinely incinerated .. this method must be enforced and checked in all medical facilities that generate it
but if you think there are no dead humans that have ever been buried or disposed of in the dirt you are farming ( or eating from ) your most likely dreaming .. people have been around in large numbers in america and even more in europe and asia for a very long time .. they have been dying for almost the same amount

conclusion
when its done right its a win win all around
for the farmer who gets good quality high grade nutrients
for the treatment station that gets rid of its solids
for the environment that has a lower amount of semi treated sewerage going into the waterways and then less artificial fertilizers applied to farms and hence less runoff of that to the waterways

ohh and when its made correctly ( and it has to be ) there is only the smell of good compost the same as any good gardener already has

the debacle that was the flint water plant is to me unfathomable and must never be allowed to happen .. it also lowers my confidence .. as it would anyones .. in the trust required to use or reuse human waste for agriculture
 

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I am almost blind having a hell of a time trying to read still, thinking about cataract surgery soon 20/70 in my good eye

I cut my eye open with a screwdriver once (don't ask) once and they gave me c*caine drops for my eye - it really helped
 
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Knocked over our xmas tree, a few cracks in the wall
The aftershocks have been a little scary
Not fun, obviously. o_O
How's the owies on your arm?
Stressed a bit (i.e., worse, but don't tell my wife). :facepalm:
that sounds so perfectly heinous
Yeah, Jimi, it could be perfectly anus, which would probably make it a real pain in the ass. But I don't know what that has to do with your poor eye... :crazy: so just ignore me...
 

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thinking about cataract surgery soon
Make damn sure the replacement lenses are the right ones. I mean, grill that damn doctor about it. I am sure they put the wrong one in my eye, which is one of the reasons why, even with glasses, my right eye is 20/80.
 

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Make damn sure the replacement lenses are the right ones. I mean, grill that damn doctor about it. I am sure they put the wrong one in my eye, which is one of the reasons why, even with glasses, my right eye is 20/80.
I really plan on it my friend, I am not to partial to doctors, any doctors anyway, I have bad macular degeneration too,
 

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I really plan on it my friend, I am not to partial to doctors, any doctors anyway, I have bad macular degeneration too,
Are you doing any eye exercises for the (I assume it is "age related") MD?

G'nite, Jimi. Rest well.
 

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Evening Rich....et al.....hope everyone had a decent day.....was a little chilly here...mid 60's, but sunny.
Hi, Dale. Hi temp here today was 32 with light snow all day long. I think accumulation was only about 4-inches. Heard the folks to the south of us really got nailed bad, however. It is usually exactly opposite. Oh well... still had to shovel the porches and make a path to the garage and around the house in the dog yard so we didn't have to wear boots to go outside (none of which helped my arm, but don't tell Lannie). :crazy:
 

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Hi, Dale. Hi temp here today was 32 with light snow all day long. I think accumulation was only about 4-inches. Heard the folks to the south of us really got nailed bad, however. It is usually exactly opposite. Oh well... still had to shovel the porches and make a path to the garage and around the house in the dog yard so we didn't have to wear boots to go outside (none of which helped my arm, but don't tell Lannie). :crazy:
Have another storm heading this way too....with colder temps again.

Friend of mine from Canada is in town, said he's trying to find some land toward Prescott, what a coincidence.
 

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Actually, he is a homesteader, in Canada. Built a bunch of greenhouses, turned about 10 acres into organic veggie patches, but the growing season is just to short. He wants to do the same thing near Prescott.
 

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Friend of mine from Canada is in town, said he's trying to find some land toward Prescott, what a coincidence.
Just out of curiosity, I was looking at online realtor listings for "Prescott area" (i.e., not in town) and they seem to be running $25,000 for a bare lot or a few acres with no house, but if you want a house and a few outbuildings, it is $270,000 to $1,000,000. Excuse me, but that's quite a ways out of my price range.
 

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I may take a drive up there tomorrow to see my buddy who bought that chunk of land really cheap I mentioned a few days ago. I'd like to see the exact location, and what a person can actually buy, for how much money. Seems hard to believe the prices are so much less than other locations near Prescott...like Sedona, etc.
 

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Just out of curiosity, I was looking at online realtor listings for "Prescott area" (i.e., not in town) and they seem to be running $25,000 for a bare lot or a few acres with no house, but if you want a house and a few outbuildings, it is $270,000 to $1,000,000. Excuse me, but that's quite a ways out of my price range.
My friend Mark didn't go through a used house salesman, he bought directly from the seller who had a sign at the end of the driveway. That saved 6% right off the bat.
 

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I may take a drive up there tomorrow to see my buddy who bought that chunk of land really cheap I mentioned a few days ago. I'd like to see the exact location, and what a person can actually buy, for how much money. Seems hard to believe the prices are so much less than other locations near Prescott...like Sedona, etc.
Sedona is over-priced because it is a tourist mecca that preys on everyone. But if you find something in the Prescott area for only a buck ninety eight, I'll take it. :D
 

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Just out of curiosity, I was looking at online realtor listings for "Prescott area" (i.e., not in town) and they seem to be running $25,000 for a bare lot or a few acres with no house, but if you want a house and a few outbuildings, it is $270,000 to $1,000,000. Excuse me, but that's quite a ways out of my price range.

Have you considered something like an earth bag house? Would be amazing in that landscape and its inexpensive
 

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Have you considered something like an earth bag house? Would be amazing in that landscape and its inexpensive
That type of construction is really catching on, here in Arizona anyway. Like you said, their "dirt" cheap, and can be made into an amazing house, with incredible thermal resistance.
 

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Have you considered something like an earth bag house? Would be amazing in that landscape and its inexpensive
Most of the area around Prescott is national forest (huge pines) and my preference would be a small house with cow barn and workshop and some grass snugged up against those trees. But I am almost 70 with a great number of physical issues. I want nothing that is going to require any special work on my part other than helping Lannie with the critters. I do not want to have to build or do any repairs other than minor ones. This implies the house will already be built (stick house or double-wide mobile) -- I doubt the cowboys in Prescott would already have made any bag houses.
 

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That type of construction is really catching on, here in Arizona anyway. Like you said, their "dirt" cheap, and can be made into an amazing house, with incredible thermal resistance.

It even crossed my mind as a replacement for the existing house - if I can't get the dome I want permitted in Hawaii, we are gonna go for that concept instead; easier to permit
 

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It even crossed my mind as a replacement for the existing house - if I can't get the dome I want permitted in Hawaii, we are gonna go for that concept instead; easier to permit
Great minds think alike.....:vino:
 

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Most of the area around Prescott is national forest (huge pines) and my preference would be a small house with cow barn and workshop and some grass snugged up against those trees. But I am almost 70 with a great number of physical issues. I want nothing that is going to require any special work on my part other than helping Lannie with the critters. I do not want to have to build or do any repairs other than minor ones. This implies the house will already be built (stick house or double-wide mobile) -- I doubt the cowboys in Prescott would already have made any bag houses.
There isn't many pine trees outside of Prescott, which is where I meant. If your 15-20 miles from Prescott, I don't think you can even see a Pine.
 

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That type of construction is really catching on, here in Arizona anyway. Like you said, their "dirt" cheap, and can be made into an amazing house, with incredible thermal resistance.


I think they are worthy of consideration even if cost is not an issue - they have a lot of advantages and super resilient
 

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There isn't many pine trees outside of Prescott, which is where I meant. If your 15-20 miles from Prescott, I don't think you can even see a Pine.
Did someone log that place bare? The national forest running along the Prescott ridgeline was one of the larger Ponderosa forests in this country.
 

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I think they are worthy of consideration even if cost is not an issue - they have a lot of advantages and super resilient
Indeed, many many advantages. I would think they could withstand an earthquake quite well too.
 

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Indeed, many many advantages. I would think they could withstand an earthquake quite well too.

They stand up to the earthquake codes in California if that means anything :giggle:
 

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Did someone log that place bare? The national forest running along the Prescott ridgeline was one of the larger Ponderosa forests in this country.
Remember the fire a few years ago? Not much left of Ponderosas outside of town.

I was talking about areas southeast of Prescott, there are no pines, just cedar.
 

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