Become a Patron!

To Date which US Presidential candidate will you be voting for & why?

Which US Presidential candidate will you be voting for?


  • Total voters
    237
Status
Not open for further replies.

Tpat591

Diamond Contributor
Member For 4 Years
1693352.gif
 

Tpat591

Diamond Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Sure enough he offered way too fucking much.

+800$ mil urgent assistance funds

+800$ mil detection funds

+2,750 agents

+75 judges

+5.7$ bil (barriers/walls)

230 miles wall this year

3 years legislative relief for 700,000 DACA recipients

3 years TPS extension 300,000 recipients (temporary protected status)

He is holding all the cards & should have just dropped the hammer on them.
 

pulsevape

Diamond Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Sure enough he offered way too fucking much.

+800$ mil urgent assistance funds

+800$ mil detection funds

+2,750 agents

+75 judges

+5.7$ bil (barriers/walls)

230 miles wall this year

3 years legislative relief for 700,000 DACA recipients

3 years TPS extension 300,000 recipients (temporary protected status)
dog and pony show....in what universe is lying and betrayl a compromise....Trump is just turning down the heat in the pot so the frogs don't know they are doomed to death, but at the end of the day the idea is being legitamized that the US is NOT a sovergien nation subject to laws voted on by it's citizens, but merely a trade zone controled by the globalist elite......look at how much time and energy even the very survival of it's party the DNC is willing to spend for the suffering of latin America, and yet it does nothing for the citizens, look at how much the DNC is willing to have us pay in order for the illegals to be here, and yet they do zero to help make the countries of latin america create liveable socities....
 
Last edited:

Tpat591

Diamond Contributor
Member For 4 Years
TRUMP SHUTDOWN TRAP IS ALSO FOR SES EMPLOYEES

19 JAN 2019 [Day 29]

[SES] Senior Executive Service; Gone In 30 Days; [RIF] Reduction In Force; 21 JAN [Day 31]

Presidential appointees who are covered by the chapter 63 leave system are not considered to be entitled to

pay based solely on their status as officers; thus, these individuals are subject to furlough in the same

manner as other Federal employees. [See 5 U.S.C. 5508]

Any Presidential appointee who is a member of the Senior Executive Service [SES] or in a senior level

[SL/ST] position paid under 5 U.S.C. 5376 may not be exempted from the chapter 63 leave system.

All SES and SL/ST employees are subject to furlough on the same basis as other employees.

[The furlough of career SES members is subject to the procedures in 5 CFR 359, subpart H, and the furlough

of SL/ST employees is subject to the procedures in 5 CFR 752, subpart D, or 5 CFR part 351, as applicable.]

While employees may be subject to furlough, the applicable due process procedures depend on the type of

employee in question.

For example, all Presidential appointees are excluded from the adverse action procedures in 5 U.S.C. chapter

75, based on 5 U.S.C. 7511(b)(1) and (3).

In addition, Presidential appointees subject to Senate confirmation are excluded from reduction in force

procedures, based on 5 CFR 351.202(b).

If a Presidential appointee is subject to furlough but not subject to adverse action or reduction in force

procedures, the agency should follow any administrative procedures required by any applicable internal

personnel policies.

SES Employees Index

https://hr.commerce.gov/Employees/SESEmployees/index.htm

Pay Leave Furlough Guidance

https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/furlough-guidance/

SES Reduction In Force [RIF] Office of Professional Management PDF

https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/senior-executive-service/reduction-in-force/ses-reduction-in-force.pdf
 

Tpat591

Diamond Contributor
Member For 4 Years
So, we still have no clues wtf "recalled" the State-Dept drones, eh?
Just the open secret of the coming reorganization that enables the RIFs. 30 days is on the 21st, but employees do not return until the 22nd. We now have confirmation that SES can be RIF'ed as well which is nothing less than huge.
 

pulsevape

Diamond Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Just the open secret of the coming reorganization that enables the RIFs. 30 days is on the 21st, but employees do not return until the 22nd. We now have confirmation that SES can be RIF'ed as well which is nothing less than huge.
I love you Man, I love your posts,but.....my question is...is Donald Trump playing 4D chess or are his supporters deluding themselves that he hasn't betrayed them...you predicted that all the Democrats who pulled election fraud who'd never be seated in Congress....and yet they have been....for two years you've been telling us that Trump was a week away from dropping the hammer on the Swamp but I don't see shit...I see him giving away the store on the border and calling it "comprimise"...a move that will shift the demographics of the country to ensure the DNC/globalist of America..retain power, and hand the country over to the NWO.
 

Rossum

Gold Contributor
Member For 3 Years
I love you Man, I love your posts,but.....my question is...is Donald Trump playing 4D chess or are his supporters deluding themselves that he hasn't betrayed them...you predicted that all the Democrats who pulled election fraud who'd never be seated in Congress....and yet they have been....for two years you've been telling us that Trump was a week away from dropping the hammer on the Swamp but I don't see shit...I see him giving away the store on the border and calling it "comprimise"...a move that will shift the demographics of the country to ensure the DNC/globalist of America..retain power, and hand the country over to the NWO.
I think in this case he's offering them "compromises" he knows they will reject, with intent of making them look unreasonable. He's doing what he can, given the constraints of the system.
 

pulsevape

Diamond Contributor
Member For 4 Years
I think in this case he's offering them "compromises" he knows they will reject, with intent of making them look unreasonable. He's doing what he can, given the constraints of the system.
Oh 4D chess again....he is NOT doing all he can, he could use the military to build the wall, he could press the attack he could hammer the message more forcefully that the DNC is selling out the people of America and stripping them of their right to vote, by changing the demographics to put illegal aliens into the voting booths...making this a "humanitarian " issue is playing by the DNC's rules on their field...this has nothing to do with Humanitarian this is a cynical and hostile takeover of the sovergien nations, and that is how Trump should potray it.....look at who the DNC just voted into office do they seem rationale, does rartionality matter to the average DNC voter, they are legitamizing censorship and violence as political realities in America and nobody gives a fuck...I think "rationale" is in the rear view mirror dude....the left can not be appealed to on a rationale level...everything and everybody is Nazi, and Hitler...so fuck trying to reason with them...ignore them and use any and all resources to get the job done.

" He's doing what he can, given the constraints of the system.".....I've been hearing that lame ass line of shit from every GOP president my whole life.
 
Last edited:

Tpat591

Diamond Contributor
Member For 4 Years
I love you Man, I love your posts,but.....my question is...is Donald Trump playing 4D chess or are his supporters deluding themselves that he hasn't betrayed them...you predicted that all the Democrats who pulled election fraud who'd never be seated in Congress....and yet they have been....for two years you've been telling us that Trump was a week away from dropping the hammer on the Swamp but I don't see shit...I see him giving away the store on the border and calling it "comprimise"...a move that will shift the demographics of the country to ensure the DNC/globalist of America..retain power, and hand the country over to the NWO.
You make it tough to argue the point & I swing from complete despondency (like when he appointed Barr) to appreciation of the strategy as I see the leverage he has multiply. Got to admit I was pretty despondent until I realized the deal he offered when he gave away the store on DACA & TPS was rejected & realized he still hasn't tipped his hand yet & his leverage has multiplied as a lot of middle of the road Dems are feeling very uncomfortable opposing him right now because the dems have gone completely off the fuckin rails & he hasn't given anything up yet..

I wanted him to start draining the swamp a year ago, but if he had, dirty judges would have let these assholes skate when the Supreme Court ruled against him & we both know it. With RBG out of the picture though he has a damn good shot shot of pulling this off for real. The 30 day RIF rules have been met & they apply to SES. The courts have run out of funding bypassing much of the corrupt burocracy that allows the corrupt to shop for judges & rig cases so even if he bypasses tribunals & uses the civilian courts, he has a shot of pulling it off.

You see me go back & forth all the time looking for the double cross & it looks more now like he is the new Don of the Bush Crime family than a guy who is fighting them to give us 9-11 disclosure & justice, but I gotta keep the faith until he actually proves he has betrayed us (in which case I'll be on the streets in a yellow vest in DC right next to ya) as he has a momentum shift on his side that is undeniable & growing day by day & nobody sees it yet. When he pulls the plug on the 22nd & RIFs the Swamp (fingers crossed) the libs are gonna completely shit themselves & that alone is epic. If he declassifies FISA & does mass arrests it would be a thing of beauty beyond my wildest imagination two years ago.

Time will tell (unfortunately either way I think he will eventually offer protection to the 1m total DACA & TPS to win them over after the fact & let them lick their butt hurt with).
 
Last edited:

pulsevape

Diamond Contributor
Member For 4 Years
You make it tough to argue the point & I swing from complete despondency (like when he appointed Barr) to appreciation of the strategy as I see the leverage he has multiply. Got to admit I was pretty despondent until I realized the deal he offered when he gave away the store on DACA & TPS was rejected & realized he still hasn't tipped his hand yet & his leverage has multiplied as a lot of middle of the road Dems are feeling very uncomfortable opposing him right now because the dems have gone completely off the fuckin rails & he hasn't given anything up yet..

I wanted him to start draining the swamp a year ago, but if he had, dirty judges would have let these assholes skate when the Supreme Court ruled against him & we both know it. With RBG out of the picture though he has a damn good shot shot of pulling this off for real. The 30 day RIF rules have been met & they apply to SES. The courts have run out of funding bypassing much of the corrupt burocracy that allows the corrupt to shop for judges & rig cases so even if he bypasses tribunals & uses the civilian courts, he has a shot of pulling it off.

You see me go back & forth all the time looking for the double cross & it looks more now like he is the new Don of the Bush Crime family than a guy who is fighting them to give us 9-11 disclosure & justice, but I gotta keep the faith until he actually proves he has betrayed us (in which case I'll be on the streets in a yellow vest in DC right next to ya) as he has a momentum shift on his side that is undeniable & growing day by day & nobody sees it yet. When he pulls the plug on the 22nd & RIFs the Swamp (fingers crossed) the libs are gonna completely shit themselves & that alone is epic. If he declassifies FISA & does mass arrests it would be a thing of beauty beyond my wildest imagination two years ago.

Time will tell (unfortunately either way I think he will eventually offer protection to the 1m total DACA & TPS to win them over after the fact).
If he gives amnesty to any of the scum it is fact he is a meat puppet for the globalist....the fact that he using the same lies, the same narritive that the globalist use is revealing...by calling alien criminals who are bankrolled by Soros to invade the US....a humanitarian crisis is bullshit..he should be deconstructing the narritive that there is anything humanitarian about it. He should be exposing the farce, instead he is going along with the manufactured narritive.
 

PoppaVic

Gold Contributor
Member For 4 Years
They need to slam the door on that H1B shit, too. Tech is ignoring the citizens, any DECENT edumacation, and importing goddamned foreign-agents when employment is "booming".
 

Tpat591

Diamond Contributor
Member For 4 Years
If he gives amnesty to any of the scum it is fact he is a meat puppet for the globalist....the fact that he using the same lies, the same narritive that the globalist use is revealing...by calling alien criminals who are bankrolled by Soros to invade the US....a humanitarian crisis is bullshit..he should be deconstructing the narritive that there is anything humanitarian about it. He should be exposing the farce, instead he is going along with the manufactured narritive.
Agreed. He is frustrating as hell doing it but he is trying to appeal to a brainwashed Dem base that believes the bullshit CNN tells them to believe. Have you ever tried to red pill someone & just watched their eyes glaze over while you are talking to them & you just realize you lost them because you overloaded them? You almost expect smoke to come out of their ears while they look at you like you are crazy.

He is taking to them the only way he can.
 
Last edited:

Tpat591

Diamond Contributor
Member For 4 Years
They need to slam the door on that H1B shit, too. Tech is ignoring the citizens, any DECENT edumacation, and importing goddamned foreign-agents when employment is "booming".
Lets worry about restoring the first amendment and break the fuckers up with anti trust litigation after paying off our national debt out of their ill gotten gains first. They wont go near a H1B after that shit.
 
Last edited:

PoppaVic

Gold Contributor
Member For 4 Years
No. It's part & parcel of the invasion and Silicon-Valley Control issue.
The FIRST is being more abused by the media and the valley-bastards; government abuse the SECOND and others with citizens.

Except, we seem to have some seriously huge issues with the concept of "citizens" - at levels that have not been seen since around the Civil War: floods of "not citizens" being treated as though they were, and Justice and Law being subverted in protection of these invaders and the asswipes that are working to bring them in.

Media has megatons of issues - like actually debating refusing the prez airtime. The "Social Media" stuff is another clusterfuck, and I can envision it being Nationalized, (which is great for the NSA). That should be addressed by everyone in government, but instead it'll be weaponized further.

These are all issues with elected and appointed officials from federal to local gov, and folks need to see it for what it is - interference and infringement on a scale unknown. I don't think the country was this gefuckt during wwII, and that had Rationing and Wardens for light-security, etc.
 

Tpat591

Diamond Contributor
Member For 4 Years
POTUS telling Pelosi you take a contract out on me & We will get back at you soon?

upload_2019-1-20_13-37-15.png

So goes the narrative
 
Last edited:

pulsevape

Diamond Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Agreed. He is frustrating as hell doing it but he is trying to appeal to a brainwashed Dem base that believes the bullshit CNN tells them to believe. Have you ever tried to red pill someone & just watched their eyes glaze over while you are talking to them & you just realize you lost them because you overloaded them? You almost expect smoke to come out of their ears while they look at you like you are crazy.

He is taking to them the only way he can.
Are you kidding me..I live in California...you try and red pill the libtards around here...they have a kill switch inserted in their brains.....they go unconciouss until they are manually rebooted.
 

Time

Platinum Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Oh 4D chess again....he is NOT doing all he can, he could use the military to build the wall, he could press the attack he could hammer the message more forcefully that the DNC is selling out the people of America and stripping them of their right to vote, by changing the demographics to put illegal aliens into the voting booths...making this a "humanitarian " issue is playing by the DNC's rules on their field...this has nothing to do with Humanitarian this is a cynical and hostile takeover of the sovergien nations, and that is how Trump should potray it.....look at who the DNC just voted into office do they seem rationale, does rartionality matter to the average DNC voter, they are legitamizing censorship and violence as political realities in America and nobody gives a fuck...I think "rationale" is in the rear view mirror dude....the left can not be appealed to on a rationale level...everything and everybody is Nazi, and Hitler...so fuck trying to reason with them...ignore them and use any and all resources to get the job done.

" He's doing what he can, given the constraints of the system.".....I've been hearing that lame ass line of shit from every GOP president my whole life.

Meh.

Trump is President. He's not a King. And he's pretty smart. The first step to emptying a bathtub, or a valley, or a country of unwanted water, is to turn off the fucking tap, build a dyke or build a wall. You worry about the water that's already in later. In fact, you can ignore the water already in if you don't have the resources to do much about it and it'll evaporate.

You act like Trump is not fighting like a dog surrounded by wolves to fulfill his campaign objectives. What's up with that? Hitlery could have been your President and there would be no fight. No wall. No nothing.

I'm all good with leaving some water in the tub while we shut off the spigot. And I was never under any illusion that Trump could solve every issue by himself in 8 years, let alone two. And I'll end with this little tidbit of fact. In my lifetime, there has never been a President that even tried to do the things he said he would do, let alone fight this hard to do them. He sure as hell is not perfect but he fights the hardest. Win or lose, at least he is trying.
 

Tpat591

Diamond Contributor
Member For 4 Years
France in flames: 84,000 Yellow Vest protesters take to the streets across six cities as they attack a bank and riot beside Napoleon's tomb in Paris on the TENTH weekend of demonstrations
  • Tear gas, water cannon and flash ball guns used by Paris police at Les Invalides, where body of Napoleon is
  • A police officer at the scene said hundreds of riot police were being attacked by Yellow Vest protesters
  • Demonstrations mark 10th weekend of violence to hit French capital since Macron's controversial policies
  • The protests hit six cities all over France, including Paris, Bordeaux, Lyon, Marseille, Angers and Toulouse
  • The biggest demonstration occurred in the southern city of Toulouse, where around 10,000 people took part
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...Vest-violence-breaks-Paris-tomb-Napoleon.html
 

pulsevape

Diamond Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Trying ain't doing..if you can;t deliver don't make promises...In my lifetime no other President made ending Illegal immigration the central plank of his campaign this isn't every single problem, this is the central focus of his prescidency.This was the reason why the people voted for him.... as for leaving water in the tub we tried that with Regan.... we were told to leave 2 million gallons in the tub, it turned out to be actually 3 million gallons.....and ten years latter that 3 million gallons turned into 30 million gallons. the water apparently didn't care about our spigots and go in through the thousands of cracks......as long as you reward illegal behavior there is no reason to stop doing it.....it is why we have jails, to deter crime.... if Trump grants these illegals anyting it will just encourage 30 million more to come....and then just who is Trump making this deal with....the same people who are actually helping the illegals enter, that WANT open borders who will not survive as a political party without immigration......do you really think they are going to honor their agreements. Why frame this issue in the leftist narritive of a "humanitarian crisis"...and make a "comprimise".....he should be destroying that narritive and asking why the DNC wants to displace the American people...and asking why the American people have to comprimise their own existence....this is like the leftist in Europe saying the West has to accept terrorisim in their streets as a fact of life...he should be telling America mass migration is not something they have to accept or comprimise with.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

VU Sponsors

Top