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Even if that person who's vaping is in the passenger seat and not the one driving?

If the cloud impairs the driver's vision, it doesn't matter who's doing it, it's a hazard.

My son recently got an Aegis Legend and the atty that comes with it, with a "mesh" coil; he loves it, but to get anything satisfying from it, he has to go up to nearly 50w, rather than the 20w he was used to with a single-coil in the OBS Nano -- and he learned right damn quick that he either has to blow the vapor to the side, crack a window, or SOMETHING, because if you can't see, you can't be driving safely.

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If the cloud impairs the driver's vision, it doesn't matter who's doing it, it's a hazard.

My son recently got an Aegis Legend and the atty that comes with it, with a "mesh" coil; he loves it, but to get anything satisfying from it, he has to go up to nearly 50w, rather than the 20w he was used to with a single-coil in the OBS Nano -- and he learned right damn quick that he either has to blow the vapor to the side, crack a window, or SOMETHING, because if you can't see, you can't be driving safely.

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So how come Cheech and Chong never got pulled over for that?
 

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Hell no, they were real and they were my heroes.

Yep to both, but the movies were not "real". They were comedies and fictional.

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I'm pretty sure I still hold a record for cloud production in my work truck:
Note, this is meant as humor and has not really anything to do with vaping: Blew a seal on the exhaust side of the turbo:

That's nothing I was once working late at the shop after replacing a blown head gasket and the customer drove in actually dripping antifreeze out the exhaust when I started it up with an exhaust hose out the garage bay door I got a phone call and when I came back I saw flashing lights. As I opened the door I was greeted by a fireman with an Axe ready to chop the door open. They got a call the building was on fire~! I said Woh dude hold up! Really chop he door open when a rubber hose is sticking out the port in the door and not checking if you could lift it? Can't hear the tunes blasting?
 

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LOL!
the driver that loaded right behind me said that when I blew the seal (on a main hiway), that the amount of exhaust fumes in the air literally had traffic stopped for at least 5 minutes...needless to say, I wan't too popular with the rush hour commuters that day
 

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needless to say, I wan't too popular with the rush hour commuters that day

Needless to say I wasn't too popular with the Volunteer Fire Department since I stopped them from being able to destroy a $1,000 unlocked door for no freaking reason. I know they work hard and risk their lives saving people but there are times they like to destroy shit. I know many of them personally so not BS it is true.
 

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LOL!
the driver that loaded right behind me said that when I blew the seal (on a main hiway), that the amount of exhaust fumes in the air literally had traffic stopped for at least 5 minutes...needless to say, I wan't too popular with the rush hour commuters that day

I saw something like that start coming out of a mac truck one day on the highway... Needless to say, I got around that bastard and AWAY! as fast as I could put the pedal down; it looked like it was about to explode! Scared the shit outta me!

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Сlouds in the car are dangerous, especially if the street sub-zero temperature!
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Driving yesterday in the unseasonably warm 64°F weather I was lofting clouds out my window and watching the cars behind me driving through my clouds. :giggle:
 
I wish I could take the roof off of mine. Haha. O well I have recently taken my msf course and am about to get my motorcycle license. I think it would really confuse people if I vaped at a stop light or something like that. Haha. Would the vapor stay in the helmet for a few??? Imma try it real quick.
Hell I used to ride and smoke and now I ride and vape if the conditions allow.
 

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TN recently went to no cell phones period for the driver, aside from Bluetooth and the phone cant be on your lap. Driving to work at 11ish pm a car was to the left passing... Took a draw off the vape... Car drastically slows gets behind me and sure enough it's a cop pulling me over.... Apparently he thought the screen of the mod was a phone due to the light and that I was holding it up to my mouth as if I was on speaker phone... So... thankfully I toss my phone in my work bag before I leave and I don't ride dirty... But was still late (well not early) to work...
 

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TN recently went to no cell phones period for the driver, aside from Bluetooth and the phone cant be on your lap. Driving to work at 11ish pm a car was to the left passing... Took a draw off the vape... Car drastically slows gets behind me and sure enough it's a cop pulling me over.... Apparently he thought the screen of the mod was a phone due to the light and that I was holding it up to my mouth as if I was on speaker phone... So... thankfully I toss my phone in my work bag before I leave and I don't ride dirty... But was still late (well not early) to work...

The other day I was sitting in the park listening to tunes waiting for my Dad at a Doctors appointment and I took a big draw and blew a big cloud out my window as a NYC Police Van drove by. He slammed on the brakes and scoped me out big time until he realized I was vaping. I know what he thought~!
 

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You, you, you ... VG infidel, you! :) :giggle:

You're responding to a post 2 yrs old, for something I've been doing for over 5 yrs? :crazy:

Tell ya what. You wave a magic wand at me to get rid of my asthma, and I'll try some high-VG again. Like maybe 60% PG and 40% VG -- THAT is high VG! Otherwise, I'll stick with 86.2% PG, and keep breathing.

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The bots are prolly to blame for the sudden resurgence of this thread.
 

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The bots are prolly to blame for the sudden resurgence of this thread.

Frankly just can't understand why anyone around here still think it's "weird" for me to use high-PG -- I've been vaping that way since i started, over 5 yrs now, and certainly haven't been shy about talking about it -- just because there IS a fairly sizable contingent that just can't handle high-VG, and they need to know that THEY aren't weird!

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Frankly just can't understand why anyone around here still think it's "weird" for me to use high-PG -- I've been vaping that way since i started, over 5 yrs now, and certainly haven't been shy about talking about it -- just because there IS a fairly sizable contingent that just can't handle high-VG, and they need to know that THEY aren't weird!

Andria


I vape Max VG but I realize that a lot of people don’t react well to it, especially with any lung or breathing complaints. It’s not weird at all, so if anyone doesn’t like your choice of PG, they can lump it!!


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You're responding to a post 2 yrs old, for something I've been doing for over 5 yrs? :crazy:

Tell ya what. You wave a magic wand at me to get rid of my asthma, and I'll try some high-VG again. Like maybe 60% PG and 40% VG -- THAT is high VG! Otherwise, I'll stick with 86.2% PG, and keep breathing.

Andria

I apologize for a bit of joking. Did not mean it in any nasty sense. I'd love to wave that magic wand and elivate, improve everyone on the planet's conditions. I know though such a wand doesn't exist. thought a bit of medicinal laughter might help. My mistake, thinking that is.
 

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I vape Max VG but I realize that a lot of people don’t react well to it, especially with any lung or breathing complaints. It’s not weird at all, so if anyone doesn’t like your choice of PG, they can lump it!!


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Well pneumonia killed me when I was eleven months old. Yep, I come back. Think my post above this one explains my thought process. I wasn't inferring any weirdness on her part at all. I'm happy she's not smoking cigarettes but vaping. To me it doesn't matter how anyone vapes and I had thought she was aware of that. Also thought she could read my humor. See? I think, it causes problems. So, better I don't think.
 

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Well pneumonia killed me when I was eleven months old. Yep, I come back. Think my post above this one explains my thought process. I wasn't inferring any weirdness on her part at all. I'm happy she's not smoking cigarettes but vaping. To me it doesn't matter how anyone vapes and I had thought she was aware of that. Also thought she could read my humor. See? I think, it causes problems. So, better I don't think.


No, I thought it was funny too. But you never can tell with folks, eh? Don’t sweat it (yes, I know there’s a heatwave lol) even though the reaction was a tad harsh. This summer I expect tempers to flare, unfortunately. Have a good night!


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People are ALWAYS giving me grief about my high-PG, but I'm not the only one around here who needs that -- maybe the most extreme, but it's really not that uncommon. And y'know, these Juul things, other pods, they use high-PG, because a "coil"/chamber that small requires it. I'm discovering, over at Quora, that a LOT of vapers vape in a manner very similar to my own -- high-PG, low wattage, even high resistance if they make their own coils, since you can't buy much of that type lately, unless you're buying coils for a real old-style clearo.

I recommend this place constantly... but I don't see many folks show up here that I encounter on Quora, and maybe this is one reason why -- they don't like being treated like some kind of 5th-class vaper any more than I do, so they don't even venture here, or if they do, they read all this cloud chasing, PG-bashing stuff and figure, well this ain't the place for me.

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i didn't know pg was getting bashed.
i don't care for vg.
i use only enow to keep my tanks from leaking.

i did notice some distain for my 30 watt vaping.
i'm not man enow for higher watts.
 

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i didn't know pg was getting bashed.
i don't care for vg.
i use only enow to keep my tanks from leaking.

i did notice some distain for my 30 watt vaping.
i'm not man enow for higher watts.

Heh... One time my mod got turned to 17w while riding in my purse, and when I hit it, I was like HOLY SHIT! and immediately turned it back to 10w, so I could stand it! When I used Kayfuns, I could go as high as 12w, but with my Achilles, 10w is the absolute limit, thx to the splendidly tight draw.

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i didn't know pg was getting bashed.

Think it's likely many of us didn't know, inclusive of ones accused of doing the "bashing".

I recommend this place constantly... but I don't see many folks show up here that I encounter on Quora, and maybe this is one reason why -- they don't like being treated like some kind of 5th-class vaper any more than I do, so they don't even venture here, or if they do, they read all this cloud chasing, PG-bashing stuff and figure, well this ain't the place for me.

Could be possible they come and blend in without too much concern one way, or another. Odd as it may sound some people can read different opinions from theirs and still keep their own opinion. I know there's a lot of opinions about all kinds of stuff on this forum which I read, doesn't mean I'm going out to become a born again Christian, Muslim, Jew.

It doesn't mean I'm converting to cotton only wick, or rayon only. I see plenty opinions that regulated devices are the greatest thing since sliced bread. I still use mechs, but I'm not fully adverse to using a regulated device. I had thought the ability to hold two opposing lines of thought in one's mind was something mature adults could do. Then of course, there's me thinking which always seems to cause trouble.

I apologize for trying to joke around and keep things light and in good humor. I see more often than not that ECF or Vapingunderground, it doesn't matter, it's all the same. People fussing because I think, because I might like a bit of fun in our talking, leading on as though I'm some kind of leper that really ought not visit any forums because I'm inconsiderate and a trouble maker. Yes, all the same in both forums.
 

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I apologize for trying to joke around and keep things light and in good humor. I see more often than not that ECF or Vapingunderground, it doesn't matter, it's all the same. People fussing because I think, because I might like a bit of fun in our talking, leading on as though I'm some kind of leper that really ought not visit any forums because I'm inconsiderate and a trouble maker. Yes, all the same in both forums.

Yeah, but here if people have a disagreement or simple difference of opinion the MOD's don't delete your posts and send warnings to people. Like here I can tell you to GFY because I agree with 99% of your post~!
 

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Yeah, but here if people have a disagreement or simple difference of opinion the MOD's don't delete your posts and send warnings to people. Like here I can tell you to GFY because I agree with 99% of your post~!

Well fine you GFY too then. That's kind of a bad sign I think. Someone agrees, thinks I'm making sense. I bet there's a full moon somewhere, damn. Watch out for the world ending, yet again. *grin*
 

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People are ALWAYS giving me grief about my high-PG, but I'm not the only one around here who needs that -- maybe the most extreme, but it's really not that uncommon. And y'know, these Juul things, other pods, they use high-PG, because a "coil"/chamber that small requires it. I'm discovering, over at Quora, that a LOT of vapers vape in a manner very similar to my own -- high-PG, low wattage, even high resistance if they make their own coils, since you can't buy much of that type lately, unless you're buying coils for a real old-style clearo.

I recommend this place constantly... but I don't see many folks show up here that I encounter on Quora, and maybe this is one reason why -- they don't like being treated like some kind of 5th-class vaper any more than I do, so they don't even venture here, or if they do, they read all this cloud chasing, PG-bashing stuff and figure, well this ain't the place for me.

Andria


If I didn’t get a cough from PG, I’d use it since it’s easier on coils and with higher nic levels. I don’t think Juul would work with lower PG. They need it to smooth out the TH and to wick well. I think it would be easier to vape PG dominant juice actually.

I’d tell anyone that doesn’t like how you vape to kindly fuck off. It’s not their business what or how anyone vapes, anyway. I didn’t realize there were that many Max VG people here, since I haven’t heard anyone talk about it, but I’ve only been here for a little while! Don’t take it to heart about the bashing, they are prolly PG sensitive and don’t realize that it’s as bad for you with VG.
Hope you’re doing well, and that it’s cooler where you are. It was really miserable here with the heat!


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I didn’t realize there were that many Max VG people here, since I haven’t heard anyone talk about it, but I’ve only been here for a little while

You haven't been around long enough~! 86.2% Percent will kill most vapers that I know. Not everyone who vapes High VG is in it for Clouds. Just not into Throat Hit. Andria strives for Throat Hit if I am not mistaken since she has talked about it for years~! I hate freaking PG because I want a smooth vape and you will never get it with High PG and low wattage. I been there and tried it but I know what's true.
 

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Not everyone who vapes High VG is in it for Clouds. Just not into Throat Hit.

I don't mind a little throat hit. Never have claimed to be a cloud chaser. Yes, the VG produces more vapor, thicker, more robust. I'm not really after clouds though. What I like regarding the VG is the subtle sweetness it provides, even just to itself, and the texture of it as I inhale it.

A little throat hit for me is okay. At the same time I'm not wanting to taste the pepper like sting of nicotine. Never liked that from any cigarette I smoked either. One reason I didn't like any Turkish blend cigarettes, they are potent with pepper tasting nicotine. I could smoke filtered, unfiltered otherwise and menthol or not. Clove cigarettes for me were a nice treat once in a blue moon or so. They had a twang but it wasn't the pepper of the nicotine.

I've no sense of smell ergo, limited sense of taste. Why would I be over concerned for flavor? As it is I'm not. I like a little flavor though, peppermint is nice for me. So, if I put ten percent of peppermint into otherwise full VG nicotine base I'm using a 90 % VG / 10% PG.

For me, it seems that PG is more used to carry flavors. That's what I read on first starting to vape. Now, it seems to me given all the proponents of PG that well, apparently it does something else as well. I figure if that's what anyone needs or desires, they'll go vape it. I won't be there with a gun to their heads forcing them to vape VG. None of them have come putting guns to my head to vape PG. I don't expect anyone will either. We all find what suits ourselves.

For me it is not so much the flavor I crave as it is the texture/s. Correctly so VG smooths the vaping experience out, for me. I have always held that however a person vapes that suits for themselves, is their right way. Sorry but I just do not believe in telling anyone else how to live, vape, whatever. I can share my experience and opinion though as others do.

All this over what I thought could have obviously been seen as a bit of light cordial humor. Not the first such has happened. I know that perhaps I do not communicate as best I could. Still I also know that every time it cannot be my fault. I know though it will always seem to be my fault. So I'm just going to say fuck it. I don't need to be cordial or have light humor. Of course, that too will cause trouble I'm sure. Damned to talk, damned not to. Ergo fuck it in any case.
 
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For me, it seems that PG is more used to carry flavors. That's what I read on first starting to vape. Now, it seems to me given all the proponents of PG that well, apparently it does something else as well. I figure if that's what anyone needs or desires, they'll go vape it. I won't be there with a gun to their heads forcing them to vape VG. None of them have come putting guns to my head to vape PG. I don't expect anyone will either. We all find what suits ourselves.

For me it is not so much the flavor I crave as it is the texture/s. Correctly so VG smooths the vaping experience out, for me. I have always held that however a person vapes that suits for themselves, is their right way. Sorry but I just do not believe in telling anyone else how to live, vape, whatever. I can share my experience and opinion though as others do.

All this over what I thought could have obviously been seen as a bit of light cordial humor. Not the first such has happened. I know that perhaps I do not communicate as best I could. Still I also know that every time it cannot be my fault. I know though it will always seem to be my fault. So I'm just going to say fuck it. I don't need to be cordial or have light humor. Of course, that too will cause trouble I'm sure. Damned to talk, damned not to. Ergo fuck it in any case.

More than 14% VG just flat-out suffocates me -- it's too thick. I did try diluting it with water, but that causes the horrible pops that I hate, so I went back to very-high-PG.

If it was only a matter of *preference*, then I'd joke right along about my "weirdness." But in fact, it's about my ability to BREATHE -- which is mandatory.

I did alright as a smoker; there are topical anesthetics and even bronchodilators in commercial cigarette tobacco, so even though smoking gave me a huge load of mucus in my chest (which actually made it easier to cough up and clear the wheeze), my asthma *seemed* much less troublesome when I smoked, than it does now. But, smoking has that troublesome tendency of leading to cancer or COPD; vaping might make my asthma seem worse, but that's not cancer, nor COPD. I was also really damn tired of supporting the Tobakko Kontrol Kartel with sin taxes on cigarettes, wasting all that money on something that was very likely to eventually kill me, and in a damned unpleasant fashion -- I was also VERY damn tired of every goddamed busybody on the fucking planet thinking it their business to lecture me about my smoking.

If there had been ANY other way for me to quit smoking, I'd have done it many years ago... but there wasn't any other way; thankfully, vaping DID allow me to quit smoking, and without much of the godawful suffering that every other way provokes... but the way I have to vape, in order to keep breathing, is a VERY skinny window -- 10w, 2 ohms, 86% PG.

And hey, tomorrow makes 5 years smoke-free -- by vaping at 10w, 2 ohms, 86% PG. If it ain't broke, be damned if I'm gonna try to fix it.

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If it was only a matter of *preference*, then I'd joke right along about my "weirdness." But in fact, it's about my ability to BREATHE -- which is mandatory.

You are the one claiming "weirdness". Then, atop of that you've seen that I don't get into "holy wars" about how anyone vapes. I've understood the how and why you vape for at least a few years now. I'm sorry if my thinking of having just a bit of fun seemed mean. It was not intended as mean. I did not call you weird. Yes I used the word infidel. Thought such an over exaggeration would have clued you in to my intention of simple good fun. Thought you would know it was in good fun and not mean.

So, as I pointed out it was my thinking which caused the issue. I see now that due to sensitivities so much as a smile might be inflicted with the perception of being mean. Oh well, I can not smile just the same as smiling. No great loss to me. I can write full on bland here with no opinion or fun presented. That might even be helpful to me to do that. It'll save lots of time.
 

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calm yourself, mist.
we love you.

I was calm then, still calm now. I am not quite understanding how people a person knows for a few years become so defensive and upset by what is obviously meant as good humor. No matter though, I'll avoid such in the future. I don't need to joke or have opinion presented here.
 

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I was calm then, still calm now. I am not quite understanding how people a person knows for a few years become so defensive and upset by what is obviously meant as good humor. No matter though, I'll avoid such in the future. I don't need to joke or have opinion presented here.

You mean I won't get a LOL moment or a good chuckle from your future posts? :xD:

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