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Which US Presidential candidate will you be voting for?


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Yeah I don't think these guys duties are going to extend over anything other than assylum seekers and I'm pretty sure the DOJ is gonna keep them on a pretty tight leash..

LOL.

Famous last words words never sounded so sweet.

"I promise, we won't let 'em get out of control. And I promise, we won't take ALL your guns. Just the bad ones, I swear."

No man. I don't play that "It's a very limited policy" bullshit. Been there, done that. The government never gets smaller. Only bigger.
 

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You answered your own question................................





That's why making agents into judges is a stupid idea. All it does is make government bigger to solve a problem that could be better solved by changing the fucking LAW(making the government SMALLER).

Geez man. Stick to your principles. MORE isn't BETTER. Less is always better. If we can't do it fine but making things worse sure as fuck won't do anything.
Nobody fucking obeys the law....that's the problem...make or unmake all the laws you want who cares....sticking to the letter of the law is not a principle...it's like when Jesus would fight with the rabbi, they would quote the law to him and he would keep telling them their was a HIGHER law that they were ignoring. This isn't a matter of less is better..it is a matter of warfare. What is going on at the border is not an organic phenomena it is a manufactured assult on the sovergienty of a nation....you and I both know that if what Mexico and Latin America are doing had happened 100 years ago our political class would have declared war on Mexico....

The Cloward–Piven strategy is a political strategy outlined in 1966 by American sociologists and political activists Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven that called for overloading the U.S. public welfare system in order to precipitate a crisis that would lead to a replacement of the welfare system with a socialist system .
 

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I think it's you now that's gone into the realm of conspiracy, thinking a bunch of out of control wife beating drunk cops with the IQ of eggplant are gonna go on some sort of killing spree.....Hey ,where you been by the way......

I've just been laying off the forum. As much as I enjoy the banter, I have a life to live too.
 

pulsevape

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LOL.

Famous last words words never sounded so sweet.

"I promise, we won't let 'em get out of control. And I promise, we won't take ALL your guns. Just the bad ones, I swear."

No man. I don't play that "It's a very limited policy" bullshit. Been there, done that. The government never gets smaller. Only bigger.
wow the fucking goverment grows everyday and this is the battle you pick huh? the already have taken our guns, our freedom of speech our voting booths again I ask you...what are you trying to preserve.
 

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Nobody fucking obeys the law....that's the problem...make or unmake all the laws you want who cares....sticking to the letter of the law is not a principle...it's like when Jesus would fight with the rabbi, they would quote the law to him and he would keep telling them their was a HIGHER law that they were ignoring. This isn't a matter of less is better..it is a matter of warfare. What is going on at the border is not an organic phenomena it is a manufactured assult on the sovergienty of a nation....you and I both know that if what Mexico and Latin America are doing had happened 100 years ago our political class would have declared war on Mexico....

The Cloward–Piven strategy is a political strategy outlined in 1966 by American sociologists and political activists Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven that called for overloading the U.S. public welfare system in order to precipitate a crisis that would lead to a replacement of the welfare system with a socialist system .

Right, but making cops into judges isn't going to solve anything and while getting laws changed isn't going to happen I'm deeply opposed to bigger government that will end up making things worse in the long run.

If you think we're at war, dust off your guns. Don't ask the government to get bigger to do it for you. That's how we got to where we are.

I'm gonna chill for now. Either things will turn around and it looks like it might, or things go south the next couple elections and I'll come out of retirement.

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wow the fucking goverment grows everyday and this is the battle you pick huh? the already have taken our guns, our freedom of speech our voting booths again I ask you...what are you trying to preserve.

I will always side with smaller government. I won't trade my fucking freedom to shoo away some immigrants.

ANYTHING that makes the government bigger is the worse alternative. Period.

News flash, border patrol judges will follow the law and the law says the illegals get to stay. So, the Judges will say they get to stay.

Now what the fuck did making them judges accomplish? Nothing.

Change the fucking law so they can't claim asylum.
 

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Media attempting yet again to drive the agenda & justify overlooking crime based on narratives in the making.

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pulsevape

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I will always side with smaller government. I won't trade my fucking freedom to shoo away some immigrants.

ANYTHING that makes the government bigger is the worse alternative. Period.

News flash, border patrol judges will follow the law and the law says the illegals get to stay. So, the Judges will say they get to stay.

Now what the fuck did making them judges accomplish? Nothing.

Change the fucking law so they can't claim asylum.
You keep saying ..stick to your principles....I also side with smaller goverment..... but according to our Consitution the Federal goverment has very few functions, and one and the largest function of that few functions is to protect the borders, I'm not asking for the goverment to grow or expand it's role...I'm asking it to do their job. one of the ONLY jobs they are specifically called on to preform,,Hell burn the Department of Education down to the ground for all I care.....and 30 million illegal aliens and growing is not a FEW and illegal aliens aren't immigrants they are invaders, they are changing the demographics of the country that isn't a minor problem it is central to whether or not we have a republic....the idea that it is of no consequence is the propoganda that legitamizes the invasion..."yeah folks no crisis at the border go back to your regularlly scheduled programming",,just a few fruit pickers looking for work....as for changing the law..really....the law is already there..it is not enforced...what is the point of creating more laws that nobody obeys..talking about growing goverment...all making laws does is employ more lawyers and goverment workers...you keep saying it's up to the voters to vote differently...no it's not...they don't give a fuck how we vote, they will do what they want, because they don't fear us anymore...look at France what is it..28 weeks the people have been in the streets demanding the goverment obey them...and what is the result...the goverment is using violence against them and the level of violence is escalating daily....we are in the same boat as the people of France, and Britian are in..a goverment that refuses to obey the will of the people....goverments that are using censorship and violence, and now the machines of the state to overthrow elections.. to maintain control...so much for your laws.

one of the big problems I have with Libertaians is they are philosiphers..I'm no philosipher, I'm more of a pragmatist..you have concern about growing the goverment...tell me how much has goverment grown as a result of having to feed, house and clothes 30 million illegal aliens....currying to the needs of illiterate third world criminals, and their kids in America has become an Industry for the US goverment.Trump's election has shown alot of things to people who are awake, and one of those things is....There is the goverment that we vote for......and then there's the other goverment ...the one that controls the goverment we vote for.
 
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Rossum

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Um, I do think a judge should at least be able to pass a fucking bar exam.

Border Patrol agents can beat their wives, be druggies, drive drunk and anything else you might find in human nature.

It's not like this country is short on fucks that went to law school.:teehee:
But of course a judge who went to law school would never beat his wife, be a druggie, or drive drunk, right?
 

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Tpat591

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I'm not sure how you guys got into a Judge Dredd Border Patrol discussion here. Sadly I had to stop & search if Trump or Barr had suggested anything of the like & I can't find it.

International law state that legitimate Asylum seekers must seek asylum in the nearest bordering country. That immediately means anyone not from Mexico is not eligible for asylum, period. No need for a hearing except to confirm point of origin, deny admittance & deport back to Mexico where they entered from. From there they are Mexico's problem. Apprehend all at the border, bus them all to the border crossings where judges are staffed to rubber stamp them before releasing them to Mexican Authorities.

Anyone from Mexico is free to apply for Asylum, and await their hearing in Mexico. The key is to make them await their hearings in Mexico, not the interior of the USA. As soon as the ccaravan criminals see thousands upon thousand turned away at the border, this shit will stop.
 
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Tpat591

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You keep saying ..stick to your principles....I also side with smaller goverment..... but according to our Consitution the Federal goverment has very few functions, and one and the largest function of that few functions is to protect the borders, I'm not asking for the goverment to grow or expand it's role...I'm asking it to do their job. one of the ONLY jobs they are specifically called on to preform,,Hell burn the Department of Education down to the ground for all I care.....and 30 million illegal aliens and growing is not a FEW and illegal aliens aren't immigrants they are invaders, they are changing the demographics of the country that isn't a minor problem it is central to whether or not we have a republic....the idea that it is of no consequence is the propoganda that legitamizes the invasion..."yeah folks no crisis at the border go back to your regularlly scheduled programming",,just a few fruit pickers looking for work....as for changing the law..really....the law is already there..it is not enforced...what is the point of creating more laws that nobody obeys..talking about growing goverment...all making laws does is employ more lawyers and goverment workers...you keep saying it's up to the voters to vote differently...no it's not...they don't give a fuck how we vote, they will do what they want, because they don't fear us anymore...look at France what is it..28 weeks the people have been in the streets demanding the goverment obey them...and what is the result...the goverment is using violence against them and the level of violence is escalating daily....we are in the same boat as the people of France, and Britian are in..a goverment that refuses to obey the will of the people....goverments that are using censorship and violence, and now the machines of the state to overthrow elections.. to maintain control...so much for your laws.

one of the big problems I have with Libertaians is they are philosiphers..I'm no philosipher, I'm more of a pragmatist..you have concern about growing the goverment...tell me how much has goverment grown as a result of having to feed, house and clothes 30 million illegal aliens....currying to the needs of illiterate third world criminals, and their kids in America has become an Industry for the US goverment.Trump's election has shown alot of things to people who are awake, and one of those things is....There is the goverment that we vote for......and then there's the other goverment ...the one that controls the goverment we vote for.
I like what Trump has done, but I have to agree the country has grown more lawless under his leadership than at any time in history as he tries to appeal to the left's base. As far as I'm concerned, fuck the left's base.

There are well over 10,000 illegals who have received final deportation orders in the USA & they haven't yet been tossed out on their ass because someone is obviously planning a sweeping asylum deal while the State Department slow walks the deportations. Trump lets that happen he deserves to lose the 2020 election. No one has been arrested for obvious 2020 election fraud. No actions have been taken to stop partisan & Islamic Censorship of free speech by Big Tech social media. Trump talks a good game but his follow through sucks.

He needs to walk the walk now, or the country is lost. Traitors need arresting, Censorship needs elimination, voter fraud needs prosecution, illegals need deporting, he does that, he will easily win reelection in a landslide. So far I'm not seeing it.
 
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just another hard working immigrant ...... committing the crimes Americans are too fat and lazy to comitt. I hear this all the time immigrants add to the economy ...whose economy..as someone who lives in probablly one of the most heavily immigrant populations in America here is what I have seen in 3 decades....wealthy Asian immigrant buys their way into the country, buys a run down house that a native working class couple looking to buy their first home can not afford to pay.Hires crews of illegal alien hispanics , or other asian immigrants to fix the place up, then sells to another immigrant or rents to other Asian immigrants...not a single native born American of any color benifts. With the exception of perhaps the city building department who they bribe to look the other way about code violations....I have to pull a permit , ask the city permisson to change a wall plug, but for some reason the same people who regulate me changing a wall plug can't require I show proof that the tradesmen on the crew are legal workers....god forbid my toilet doesn't meet the lawful requirements but every person on the crew can be a criminal alien.
What else I have seen ...I've seen the largest lumber yard in the area go from a bussiness that represented the native community where people of all colors worked at , and people of all colors bought from to....a place where the entire sales force is now hispanic, because they speak the same language as the illegal aliens who refuse to speak English now make up the bulk of the customer base after having driven the native population out of the construction industry. and the only jobs given to Blacks and a few Whites who make up a significant population of the area are jobs humping lumber into the trucks of illegal hispanics...whereas in the past Blacks and Whites worked in all aspects of the bussiness. So the native population has been driven out of the construction trades, as well as now being driven out of all the industries that supply the construction trades...
 
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PoppaVic

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You answered your own question................................





That's why making agents into judges is a stupid idea. All it does is make government bigger to solve a problem that could be better solved by changing the fucking LAW(making the government SMALLER).

Geez man. Stick to your principles. MORE isn't BETTER. Less is always better. If we can't do it fine but making things worse sure as fuck won't do anything.
well, unless LESS is your ammo-supply, gold, dollars, RAM, etc ;-)
 

Rossum

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International law state that legitimate Asylum seekers must seek asylum in the nearest bordering country. That immediately means anyone not from Mexico is not eligible for asylum, period. No need for a hearing except to confirm point of origin, deny admittance & deport back to Mexico where they entered from. From there they are Mexico's problem. Apprehend all at the border, bus them all to the border crossings where judges are staffed to rubber stamp them before releasing them to Mexican Authorities.
Indeed, it does, but that doesn't mean US law can't be more lenient, and in fact, it currently is. :mad:
 

Tpat591

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DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen and a top immigration official were 'forced out of the Trump Administration for challenging a "secret plan" to arrest thousands of migrant parents and children in a blitz operation'
  • Kirstjen Nielsen was forced out last month as secretary of Homeland Security
  • Ronald Vitiello was removed as acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE)
  • Nielsen and Vitiello were ousted after they stood in the way of a secret White House plan to arrest and deport thousands of migrant families
  • The plan, which was backed by adviser Stephen Miller and then-deputy director of ICE, Matthew Albence, called for a 'blitz' encompassing 10 cities
  • Nielsen and Vitiello were concerned the plan would divert crucial resources from the southern border
  • Trump has been furious with the record high numbers of migrants crossing the border to seek asylum in the United States
 
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I like what Trump has done, but I have to agree the country has grown more lawless under his leadership than at any time in history as he tries to appeal to the left's base. As far as I'm concerned, fuck the left's base.

There are well over 10,000 illegals who have received final deportation orders in the USA & they haven't yet been tossed out on their ass because someone is obviously planning a sweeping asylum deal while the State Department slow walks the deportations. Trump lets that happen he deserves to lose the 2020 election. No one has been arrested for obvious 2020 election fraud. No actions have been taken to stop partisan & Islamic Censorship of free speech by Big Tech social media. Trump talks a good game but his follow through sucks.

He needs to walk the walk now, or the country is lost. Traitors need arresting, Censorship needs elimination, voter fraud needs prosecution, illegals need deporting, he does that, he will easily win reelection in a landslide. So far I'm not seeing it.


I donno pat. To me it looks like we finally have someone up there who gives a shit about us, the working class stiffs. Despite massive Democrats AND republican opposition. A guy actually doing what a president is suppose to do. How long these trade agreements been so hard against us? Thats the presidents job and we actually have one doing his job. For how many decades did we have all those massive regulations. Since Trump dealt with them its obviously a presidential duty. So It doesnt matter if he does anymore this term or not, unless he fucks up really bad he has my vote for re-election. Your right, a lot more needs doing. I agree %1000 on that, but he is only on man and has done more than any president I have ever seen that helps us. That alone earns my loyalty.
 

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