Try the merlin rdta. Amazing flavor. Just not the biggest cloud machineFlavor depending on the juice- and again this is personal preferences- is almost as good as my Tauren RDTA. What I dont like about the Rebirth is its easy to get too much juice in it and make a mess. I fill it through the top, I take the mouthpiece off and fill. On mine, taking the top bell off is a PITA, something that can be remedied with o rings I think. Still its a good atomizer one of the better ones I have and have had. The build you see there is .23 ohms and I vape it at 25 watts.