natebuchanan
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If I’m in a hurry but want to rebuild for a mech, dual parallel 3.0mmID 24ga KA1 with 5 wraps almost always lands right at 0.15 ohms. No fuss, fires super quick.
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Tried everything in my mech and ramps up to slow
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Also can help if you keep getting popped in the mouth by little drops of what feel like superheated plasma generated in the core of the sun.
Explains why Rip Tripper was always needing MOAR JUICE!
He still around? Have not seen him for over 3 years I think.
Well, ...
If you build a coil appropriately
If you wick a coil appropriately
..., might not need to avoid brutal spit back. Double check what I'm writing there too. I'm not saying "correctly", "the right way", "my way". I'm saying do things appropriately so as for yourself it nullifies spit back.
Some can offer a little advice on the rough how to of doing this. For example with wicking I go contrary to the fold of general consensus. I leave space between the top of the coil and top of the wick, so the wick seems to pull through the coil like a pipe but only the bottom half of it. Others suggest you stuff that "pipe" full of wick, and I know that for many that way of doing -- does work out.
When I build my coils, something I've learned is to get the legs level. What I mean is if I'm using an RDA like the Gorge I'll have one leg pointing right, another left. Well, I try to ensure there are no "sticking up shoulders" on the coil, which means the legs need to be flush and level with the top or crest of the coil. Not exactly sure why this helps avoiding spit back but for me it does.
Those are things I do. You can try them, or not. I can only offer you my opinion, advice, experience. Ultimately, you'll need to find what suits you and let that be your right way. I won't tell you a right way, yes I might joke and say you need to use rayon, or cotton depending how it strikes me. I might even joke and say you can get a good buzz vaping Tide Pods, don't laugh too hard though, we've had media suggesting someone was fool enough to vape laundry detergent. But I won't say any one way is right over another.
That would be silly of me considering I'm not anyone to be a judge or authority.
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He might have tried the Tide Pods, or maybe got eaten by those Pod people. I'm telling you, getting scared here on VU, we keep getting folks looking for pods. Soon we Earthlings will be extinct. Don't get me wrong, don't mind aliens, you for example are definitely are a very good friend and worthy cricket player. When they start feeding us to bean pods though, sorry; "We need to get in the ship, make orbit, and nuke 'em. It's the only way!" -- Sgt. Hicks
Same here, same duration of the drags, but usually my vape is slightly on the cool side of warm/neutral... only occasionally I switch to a warm/hot vape, if the juice I want to vape is the type that needs to be vaped warm/hot (e.g., Crimson: Chapter I by Illusions needs to be vaped hot).
Of course there is. But as I'm typing this I'm actually vaping a .08 ohms dual coil aliens build that's 26g for the 4 cores and 36g for the alien wrap wire, all Nichrome 80, in the Asgard Mini RDA with the separately sold Ultem Set (ultem cap, ultem drip tip, and ultem beauty ring)... this is on my Vaper's Mood Tanka brass with a Samsung 30T, and, here's a pic of my build:
The ramp up time with this build is pretty close to zero ramp up, which makes this build's ramp up about identical to that of the 27g aliens that I mentioned earlier. There's no spitback, and, IMO it vapes a little better when compared to using 38g or 40g for the alien wrap wire (I haven't tried 44g, mainly because of that). So I stand by my conclusion, that it all simply boils down to your own personal preferences, and so 40g or 44g is not a necessary requirement for fast ramp up on a mech at all.
The posts make a tiny bit of difference, but like I already tried to point out they're not a necessary requirement so, essentially, it's only in the mind, and, they take more effort to maintain when compared to the SS round posts. Here's an older pic of a Nichrome 80 build I did in one of my Kennedy RDAs, it's a .52 ohms build that I use on a triple battery stacked tube mech:
I get that, and in fact I personally never use SS in coil building. But I haven't really found an absolute need for Nichrome 90, as Nichrome 80 has been getting the job done perfectly fine also.
My SFC build in the pic above uses 2×29N80 staggered fused with 38N80. It is most definitely a hot vape at 12.6 volts, and, the ramp up is also pretty instantaneous. Like, a little bit too instantaneous if you mean what I know...
EDIT: correction... those aliens are 4×26g, not 3× so sorry for the confusion.
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there, yeah with 4 wraps on the coils the ramp up time is fast with 36g, try that with 5
I stick with 5 or 6 wraps / n90 or ss (mostly n90) real fine wire on the outside for more area and flavor
6 wraps of parallels n90 26g is still quite hot / fast to heat up
hey, whatever works for ya!
there, yeah with 4 wraps on the coils the ramp up time is fast with 36g, try that with 5
I stick with 5 or 6 wraps / n90 or ss (mostly n90) real fine wire on the outside for more area and flavor
6 wraps of parallels n90 26g is still quite hot / fast to heat up
hey, whatever works for ya!
I know. If I need more power I just switch to one of my HoGs, my Stormbreaker mod, or one of my stacked tubes... I have the Rulebreaker mod still on order because I want to break me some rules.
Force of habit I guess. Creating more surface area by using thinner wrap wire doesn't guarantee better flavor, as the size of juice pockets between the wires aso plays a part (i.e., due to how the boiling juice will flow in there and build up tiny pressure zones as the juice creates tiny bubbles of vapor that will expand vigorously inside these juice-filled pockets when juice also evaporates on the inside surface of these bubbles themselves, which helps to explain why these bubbles will expand, and why their individual sizes matter a lot also... bigger bubbles will stir the juice up more forcefully, thereby the evaporation process will be accelerated more until it meets the definition of 'angry' coil build, like, Valhalla Hell's Gate Edition RDA kind of angry, which I also happen to be so completely in love with right now lol).
Trust me... so is this one........
Staggered fused claptons are my fave btw (missed that pic), I use 38g for those.
i personally cant find the difference between aliens and plain old fused claptons with real fine wire, sans the time it takes to make (i did do aliens with 36g back in the day a few times, just not worth the time imo)
Say about 36g Ni80 what you want, but... to find the real truth people can navigate to 23:50 in the video linked below and watch m.terk himself explain that even out of 3mm these coils heat up surprisingly very very fast. I know he was using a dual battery regulated mod for this particular build tutorial so you could argue that this doesn't factually compare to using a single battery mech, and you would be correct, but... changing the 3×26g for the cores to 3×27g while at the same time also changing the 3mm inner diameter to 2.5mm makes it ramp up even much faster, and also it completely tames the hotness typically associated with 26g. Also note that a mech inherently preheats the coils due to how the battery voltage sag behaves so that makes coils heat up even faster still, if at least we can assume that the resistance of the build is tailored specifically in order for it to produce the optimal power output level that will allow the build to achieve the maximum performance potential that the type of strand in question factually is capable of... which is also an important part of what makes m.terk such a gargantuan expert when it comes to alien coils. So if what you say is true and 3×27N80/36N80 aliens aren't worth the time for mech use, then certainly m.terk wouldn't be selling them like hot cakes. He is.
Glad you've found what you like.
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I just like my staged coils. Don't have to buy them from someone else, don't have long ramp-up times, have great flavor, cheap to make, durable. I use them exclusively IF the RDA is designed so that both wires can be securely trapped. If there isn't enough room, then single round wire it is, SS or N80, of the largest size that will fit. The very last thing I want is a wire popping loose inside the RDA while I'm vaping it.
I get spit-back sometimes if I've over-squonked and then let the rig sit. Too much juice gets wicked up into the cotton and then when I fire it up again, my approximately 35W isn't enough to vaporize all the juice. Usually after a couple of spitty hits, things will calm down and everything's good.
I think I tend to not keep the cotton as wet as some folks. I want it wet but not sopping wet. Soppiing wet gives me spit-back.
I get spit-back sometimes if I've over-squonked and then let the rig sit. Too much juice gets wicked up into the cotton and then when I fire it up again, my approximately 35W isn't enough to vaporize all the juice. Usually after a couple of spitty hits, things will calm down and everything's good.
I think I tend to not keep the cotton as wet as some folks. I want it wet but not sopping wet. Soppiing wet gives me spit-back.