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*cough* Bishop & Knight *cough* Those to know will.

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Do you think you, with your mad skillz as they used to say, could find me a pic of Felix whistling and notes coming out? I couldn’t download any. Fuck you, Apple. And GFY, bro.
 

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I could save your image, but I can’t download anything else online. It’s a quirky/sucky Apple thing for mobiles. On a Mac, no problem. Major pita!
sound like a Job for Android or Jailbreaking
 

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sound like a Job for Android or Jailbreaking

I’ve thought about an Android, believe me. I don’t know how to break into this right now. I need a new device anyway, so I’ll look outside of Apple. They’re good, but so are other phones and tablets. And they’re not a million bucks to buy!
 

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just think all that Apple Tax can go into your Vape stash now
I’ve thought about an Android, believe me. I don’t know how to break into this right now. I need a new device anyway, so I’ll look outside of Apple. They’re good, but so are other phones and tablets. And they’re not a million bucks to buy!
 

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just think all that Apple Tax can go into your Vape stash now

I’m kinda worried that I won’t have enough HW now. First juice, now the Chinese. It’s a two pronged attack, it seems.
 

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so far FT is still sending to the us.
 

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so far FT is still sending to the us.

At least. It felt very gloom and doom when I heard about Ali and the other one. Hope it was just me over reacting, but it seemed to affect everyone like that.
Plus no vape selling on eBay? How did they get rid of hundreds of sellers so quickly? People must be very upset. It’s pointless, too. They could stop juice sales there or really age verify. But just chucking them out is pretty harsh.
 

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ebay tends to filter based on IP so it may just be filtering what you see based on your IP... second it is easy to hide stuff if it is titled correctly ...

now some places may have gotten there stock from ali but the other i never knew of. now i know my locals used mount baker vaper , breazy , FT then again they stock authentic not clone or styled. they have alternative plans in places but i think if there sources close or dont ship they will be shit out of luck like me. there also up on the reg and i will have to check but they should already be VTA members.
 

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ebay tends to filter based on IP so it may just be filtering what you see based on your IP... second it is easy to hide stuff if it is titled correctly ...

Yes, and easy to hide or mask an IP address if one has a little knowledge of such things. :) Know that the IP block I'm listed in puts me somewhere in Southern WV. For all anyone knows though I might be in D-troit, MI, or Karnataka, India. Being honest I am roughly mid state of Western WV.

I could make it seem that my IP was anywhere I chose though. Add in MAC address spoofing and randomization, it gets rather difficult to locate me if I choose not being tracked electronically. I might even piddle around, set up a system to use only secure socket layer transfer protocol. This site is not a SSL site though & even requesting it to use that does not allow for it to happen. IMHO, that might be a change to consider given current implications.

Let us genuinely be underground, possibly even going to using Tor, I2P, Freenet, Zeronet, or some such like.
 

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Yes, and easy to hide or mask an IP address if one has a little knowledge of such things. :) Know that the IP block I'm listed in puts me somewhere in Southern WV. For all anyone knows though I might be in D-troit, MI, or Karnataka, India. Being honest I am roughly mid state of Western WV.

I could make it seem that my IP was anywhere I chose though. Add in MAC address spoofing and randomization, it gets rather difficult to locate me if I choose not being tracked electronically. I might even piddle around, set up a system to use only secure socket layer transfer protocol. This site is not a SSL site though & even requesting it to use that does not allow for it to happen. IMHO, that might be a change to consider given current implications.

Let us genuinely be underground, possibly even going to using Tor, I2P, Freenet, Zeronet, or some such like.
yes all true now try and order something to any address us without some third party forwarding service or for that fact ever order anything already... they store and know your accounts address. as per the rest about SSL and all i belive @TygerTyger and big blue world stuff are working on it that and about thousand other items.
 

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In any case it will be interesting to watch how vaping shakes out in the USA.. Painful but interesting.
it most likely will look something like Vaping 2.0 or a version of it. two separate orders from two separate companies (one for nic, one for flavoring) , one for wire, you get the idea after all most FDA regs are on marketing first then sales if it can be reasonable expected you know but if sold and shipped separate then there can be no exception. so take wire optium all it will be is non vape gear so it will not be part of it then you have these Flavoring only company's you get the general idea . the hardest items might be for the pod kits but so long as FT is willing to ship to the end user and it makes it thur you'll be fine there.... Enforcement is the main issue most regs dont say you can not buy it. just sell it or market it.
 

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it most likely will look something like Vaping 2.0 or a version of it. two separate orders from two separate companies (one for nic, one for flavoring) , one for wire, you get the idea after all most FDA regs are on marketing first then sales if it can be reasonable expected you know but if sold and shipped separate then there can be no exception. so take wire optium all it will be is non vape gear so it will not be part of it then you have these Flavoring only company's you get the general idea . the hardest items might be for the pod kits but so long as FT is willing to ship to the end user and it makes it thur you'll be fine there.... Enforcement is the main issue most regs dont say you can not buy it. just sell it or market it.
Actually US based vape product manufacturers can sell their products outside of the USA just not in the USA. Of course if selling to the EU they would have to get their juice approved for sale over there.
Most all US vape manufacturing is in the area of ejuice. We are just re-sellers of hardware for the most part. US hardware company's seem to have moved their actual production to China... for the most part.
 

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Actually US based vape product manufacturers can sell their products outside of the USA just not in the USA. Of course if selling to the EU they would have to get their juice approved for sale over there.
they can do that and make adjustments to how they sell in the us... prohibition never worked and neither will bans so long as we can find a way to get are stuff then that way will be share to those in the club if you catch my drift.
 

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they can do that and make adjustments to how they sell in the us... prohibition never worked and neither will bans so long as we can find a way to get are stuff then that way will be share to those in the club if you catch my drift.
True, but prohibition did make things a lot more expensive to get and not nearly as available to as many.
 

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now try and order something to any address us without some third party forwarding service or for that fact ever order anything already.

Yes, granted and yes they'll store an address. How easy is it to rent out a P.O. box, USPS, or private company box? You get something that doesn't fit the box they leave a card for you in the box to see the desk. Of course, that could also face some drawbacks too. For one thing I think USPS chooses at random to x-ray and irradiate mail articles.

This is for security & reasonable I suppose up to a point. Imagine though lacing inside an envelope with aluminum foil. Bet that would cause some highjinks. Not that I have or would mind, just one of those odd imaginings passing through my mind for a second then its gone.

To be fair, I also imagine ways to create time machines, transporters, invisible purple unicorns, global peace, ways for the elderly to get along better. My mind imagines so much, 99.9% never sees any fruition based upon this terrible phrase, "that's just the way it is". Even once imagined a great way for water extraction of divers via helicopter. It mostly worked well too although if drawing fire, well, it would be a shit shoot.
 
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Yes, granted and yes they'll store an address. How easy is it to rent out a P.O. box, USPS, or private company box? You get something that doesn't fit the box they leave a card for you in the box to see the desk. Of course, that could also face some drawbacks too. For one thing I think USPS chooses at random to x-ray and irradiate mail articles.

This is for security & reasonable I suppose up to a point. Imagine though lacing inside an envelope with aluminum foil. Bet that would cause some highjinks. Not that I have or would mind, just one of those odd imaginings passing through my mind for a second then its gone.

To be fair, I also imagine ways to create time machines, transporters, invisible purple unicorns, global peace, ways for the elderly to get along better. My mind imagines so much, 99.9% never sees any fruition based upon this terrible phrase, "that's just the way it is". Even once imagined a great way for water extraction of divers via helicopter. It mostly worked well too although if drawing fire, well, it would be a shit shoot.

Purple unicorns are easy to create on the astral, though. The other stuff...sigh. Not so easy.
 

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We will also have Cromsorcisms where we will cast out Dry Hit Demonic possession.

Lol I had a dry hit in the middle of the night, since I couldn’t see what was in my tank. Fooey. So I’ll need a Cromsorcism and some of Cromwell’s Custard (when I have the flavors) to get the bad taste out of my mouth!
 

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OHH No none of that Drip tip clipping in this church!
Barbarians....

But DIY Sunday School every Sunday.
And on Wednesday evenings we will discuss Coilafflictions.
Sounds perfect... but I won't be titheing
 

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All Hail Eris! Oh oops, All Hail the Holy Vapor. Give the Holy Vapor's minister @The Cromwell plenty of cotton and may his wick never dry, Topeka!

Reminds me of when a friend of mine sat on a picture of Bob, from the Subgenius-ites. So we had a running joke about sitting on Bob’s face (may his discordian name be praised.)
Pardon me boys, is this the Chattanooga choo choo....
 

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