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Don Coco

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Hi guys,

Just wondering is there any nicotine salt base brand which high on strength such above 750mg or maybe 1000mg?

Coz i knew that Free Based Nicotine have maximum strength of 1000mg does exist. How bout Nic Salt?

Appreciate to share any of you experience on it.

Cheers


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And the asshole who says I am ignored posts another comment right after I do which is basically like having a fucking echo in here.
 

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Ohh I peek at your posts from time to time just to make sure you are still an ass and I need to leave you on ignore.

You make a point of saying you ignore me but you always post after you read my post like you are doing the vaping world a favor. Go climb back under your bridge already~! GFY Do you think repeating the good information I post makes you seem any more than a parrot?
 

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If you are ignoring me like you say why are you reading my posts? Just to post the same correct information so you can act like you actually know what vaping with High End gear is or just to sound like you know what it is like to actually spend money?
 

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LMAO.

Peeks at your posts can be pretty funny.
I had not peeked at your warning above.
But I did peek at your post after mine.

Why would I care what vaping with high end gear is like?

vaping is not a status thing with me nor is keeping up with anyone elses vaping style or vape gear.

Just ordered another Kbox Mini today :D
High class vapin! yessir :D
 

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Your so full of shit everyone smells it you stupid ass. See here I did not quote you but you will read it in minutes because you are so full of shit you need extra large tanks~!
 

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The Crowell is still an active ECF member but claims to be a refugee.................
yeah I remember both of you guys from ECF, friends there first :) I still drop by ECF on ocassion to read the latest on MTL stuff there. Classyshowponywife and Returd one are still unholy terrors I see, lmao.
 

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The Returded1 now thinks banning Veterans is his answer to having a non-working small one. If Ollie gave a shit he would ban that asshole and all his buttbuddies to bring ECF back to when it was the Vaping Forum. But now all Ollie cares about is who pays his Server Fees and since they can't manage the Webpages and access to ECF it is the least active forum. The Vaping Underground is now the place to be and actually get some relevant up to date information. Last years Vaping Forum ratings proves that as here was #1~!
 

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Hi guys,

Just wondering is there any nicotine salt base brand which high on strength such above 750mg or maybe 1000mg?

Coz i knew that Free Based Nicotine have maximum strength of 1000mg does exist. How bout Nic Salt?

Appreciate to share any of you experience on it.

Cheers


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I recently saw some business announcement about nic salts from a manufacturer that I believe said they could supply 1000 mg/ml nic salts, can't quite remember which one, I think it was either Chemnovatic or NicSelect, and it was likely just for wholesale.
 

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While I could SAFELY work with Pure Nicotine I just think WTF should I even be bothering with it? Am I that cheap to save pennies but spend it on the safety equipment?
The guys been a member for 3 years, I figure for all that time he must know something about high nic safety, possibly looking to be an ejuice distributor, who knows. In any case you've given him fair warning you can kill yourself with 1000 mg/ml.
Hey, remember that thread where people were saying 100 mg/ml was deadly if ONE DROP touched you? haha :D
 

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Hey, remember that thread where people were saying 100 mg/ml was deadly if ONE DROP touched you? haha :D

Yes when I took 2ML's of straight 48MG in 100% VG and vaped in in 1 hour to prove them wrong and rubbed it on both forearms for good measure. The Returd closed the thread and deleted it because I proved them wrong and full of shit~!
 

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Hey, remember that thread where people were saying 100 mg/ml was deadly if ONE DROP touched you? haha :D

I should have had to go to the ER according to those fucking assholes and I am still here vaping 30-40 ML's a day every day and don't ask me about a stressful day~! Granted it is 3MG but do the math..................
 

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I should have had to go to the ER according to those fucking assholes and I am still here vaping 30-40 ML's a day every day and don't ask me about a stressful day~! Granted it is 3MG but do the math..................
oh yeah, I can relate to stressful days, work has been stressful the last couple weeks as I had to help get a project done, you can bet my vape was a great stress reliever!
 
Do you realize what kind of safety gear and precautions are needed to work with 1,000MG Nicotine?
I've been mixing with 1,000mg nicotine for two years ... no gloves, no eye protection ... you know what happens when you actually get it on your skin? Not a damn thing if you wash it within 20 minutes... paranoia will destroya
 

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Wouldn't 1000mg/ml nic salt theoretically be impossible since there is a benzioc acid to nicotine ratio in nic salt of 3:4?

For every 10ml's of pure nic there is 7.5ml's of benzoic acid.
 

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I've been mixing with 1,000mg nicotine for two years ... no gloves, no eye protection ... you know what happens when you actually get it on your skin? Not a damn thing if you wash it within 20 minutes... paranoia will destroya

Ignorance is bliss and you must either be mistaken about what you are using or just full of it.

  1. With 99.n% nicotine: use full hazmat precautions. This means a fume cupboard (with air extraction to outside the building) and gloves. Dilute the pure material with an excipient such as glycerol or PG (propylene glycol), to 20% strength (200mg/ml) or lower. For human consumption purposes, all of the materials must be of pharmaceutical grade. The final retail product must be batch marked, and extensively tested for precise nicotine strength and any form of contamination (such as DEG).
  2. There is no other safe way to handle the pure material. If you don’t have a fume cupboard with air extraction, then buy pre-diluted nicotine as this is comparatively safe to handle: you don’t need a fume cupboard. It is available at 200mg, 100mg, 72mg strengths for example (20%, 10%, 7.2%), mixed with the diluent of your choice. This is the sensible way to buy the product.
 

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Wouldn't 1000mg/ml nic salt theoretically be impossible since there is a benzioc acid to nicotine ratio in nic salt of 3:4?

For every 10ml's of pure nic there is 7.5ml's of benzoic acid.
Yep was thinking the same thing. Just mathematically impossible.
 

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Yep was thinking the same thing. Just mathematically impossible.
Doesn't the acid bond with the nic, to form a nic salt molecule?

The molecular weight is one theory why people sometimes need higher mg/ml with salts. A nic salt molecule is much heavier than freebase, so using milligrams per millilitre gets tricky
 

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Doesn't the acid bond with the nic, to form a nic salt molecule?

The molecular weight is one theory why people sometimes need higher mg/ml with salts. A nic salt molecule is much heavier than freebase, so using milligrams per millilitre gets tricky
OHH NOES!
Now my brainz is hurting!
 

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Hi guys,

Just wondering is there any nicotine salt base brand which high on strength such above 750mg or maybe 1000mg?

Coz i knew that Free Based Nicotine have maximum strength of 1000mg does exist. How bout Nic Salt?

Appreciate to share any of you experience on it.

Cheers


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Nic Liquid 600mg Smooth...1000mg Salts will be impossible because of the need for Benzoic acid, 600mg is going be the Purest form for salts
 

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LMAO.

Peeks at your posts can be pretty funny.
I had not peeked at your warning above.
But I did peek at your post after mine.

Why would I care what vaping with high end gear is like?

vaping is not a status thing with me nor is keeping up with anyone elses vaping style or vape gear.

Just ordered another Kbox Mini today :D
High class vapin! yessir :D
Better get you a stumpy for that mod. Lmao
 

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I've been mixing with 1,000mg nicotine for two years ... no gloves, no eye protection ... you know what happens when you actually get it on your skin? Not a damn thing if you wash it within 20 minutes... paranoia will destroya
I've also been using 1000mg (99.5%pure) nicotine for about 2 or 3 years now and have not had any problems with it. While I am cautious when handling it, I am not afraid of it or over cautious to the point of wearing protective gear that so would only be cumbersome and get it the way. I don't even bother with latex gloves anymore unless it's for someone else.

I usually purchase 500ml of 1000mg nicotine at a time and dilute it down to 250mg if it's for myself and store it in 120ml amber bottles with conical caps and argon to remove most of the oxygen. Then I put it in a mini freezer until needed. I also keep bulk e-juice I purchased on clearance in same freezer. I keep this freezer locked to be sure my kids don't get in to it.

I dilute down to 100mg using same process if it's for someone else.

I do agree pure nicotine is a dangerous poison AND IF YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING DONT MESS WITH IT!!. BUT, I also believe if you have a respect for that danger, you will be ok working with it.

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I do agree pure nicotine is a dangerous poison AND IF YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING DONT MESS WITH IT!!. BUT, I also believe if you have a respect for that danger, you will be ok working with it.


Yep I agree is one uses due diligence and common sense using it.
I just personally feel safer using 100 mg/ml.
 

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I've also been using 1000mg (99.5%pure) nicotine for about 2 or 3 years now and have not had any problems with it. While I am cautious when handling it, I am not afraid of it or over cautious to the point of wearing protective gear that so would only be cumbersome and get it the way. I don't even bother with latex gloves anymore unless it's for someone else.

I usually purchase 500ml of 1000mg nicotine at a time and dilute it down to 250mg if it's for myself and store it in 120ml amber bottles with conical caps and argon to remove most of the oxygen. Then I put it in a mini freezer until needed. I also keep bulk e-juice I purchased on clearance in same freezer. I keep this freezer locked to be sure my kids don't get in to it.

I dilute down to 100mg using same process if it's for someone else.

I do agree pure nicotine is a dangerous poison AND IF YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING DONT MESS WITH IT!!. BUT, I also believe if you have a respect for that danger, you will be ok working with it.

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Do you take any precautions for fumes? If so what are they? I’m not likely to bother with the pure stuff just because I’m more comfortable with the 100mg/ml but I’m curious about fumes from pure nicotine.
 

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Do you take any precautions for fumes? If so what are they? I’m not likely to bother with the pure stuff just because I’m more comfortable with the 100mg/ml but I’m curious about fumes from pure nicotine.
The first time, before I got over all the paranoia created by the doomsday sayers, I worked at a table on the front porch beside a fan to blow fumes away from me. Now.... I just make sure not to get close enough to really inhale a lungfull of fumes. Keeping everything pretty much at arms length awayseems to work well enough.

My advice to you...stick with what you are comfortable with. If you are not completely comfortable with the pure stuff, but want to buy a stronger concentration to save a few bucks, I believe you can still buy 250mg on most DIY sites. If you are not comfortable doing something without precautions...then take precautions, at least until you become comfortable with working with it.

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The Crowell is still an active ECF member but claims to be a refugee.................

I'm still active, just a little at ECF. As I explain there, I like both forums. Seems clear though I prefer here a little more. Though of late I'm getting fed up with any and all forums in general. There's only so much to say, so much to read.
 

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And the asshole who says I am ignored posts another comment right after I do which is basically like having a fucking echo in here.
Ohh I peek at your posts from time to time just to make sure you are still an ass and I need to leave you on ignore.
You make a point of saying you ignore me but you always post after you read my post like you are doing the vaping world a favor. Go climb back under your bridge already~! GFY Do you think repeating the good information I post makes you seem any more than a parrot?
If you are ignoring me like you say why are you reading my posts? Just to post the same correct information so you can act like you actually know what vaping with High End gear is or just to sound like you know what it is like to actually spend money?
Your so full of shit everyone smells it you stupid ass. See here I did not quote you but you will read it in minutes because you are so full of shit you need extra large tanks~!
The Crowell is still an active ECF member but claims to be a refugee.................
FUCKING STOP! BOTH OF YOU!!! It's assholes like you two that drive new people away from this forum!
 

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FUCKING STOP! BOTH OF YOU!!! It's assholes like you two that drive new people away from this forum!
Ohh I stopped. he is on ignore and no peeking.
And I will not be sniping his posts of course since I do not know what they say.

I will NOT put up with his behavior towards me and ignore is the best way.

Jump on both instead of the guilty one?
Reminds me of antivapers methods. Hit all vaping not just the ones vaping tainted THC?
 

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Hi guys,

Just wondering is there any nicotine salt base brand which high on strength such above 750mg or maybe 1000mg?

Coz i knew that Free Based Nicotine have maximum strength of 1000mg does exist. How bout Nic Salt?

Appreciate to share any of you experience on it.

Cheers


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Unless you have a WELL VENTILATED room, and wear the PROPER safety gear, you're asking for trouble. Contrary to what others may say, just breathing 1000mg (100% pure) nicotine CAN put you in the hospital.
Yes when I took 2ML's of straight 48MG in 100% VG and vaped in in 1 hour to prove them wrong and rubbed it on both forearms for good measure. The Returd closed the thread and deleted it because I proved them wrong and full of shit~!
48mg is fine. When we started vaping, some juices were available as 50mg freebase.
I've been mixing with 1,000mg nicotine for two years ... no gloves, no eye protection ... you know what happens when you actually get it on your skin? Not a damn thing if you wash it within 20 minutes... paranoia will destroya
I call bullshit.
Ignorance is bliss and you must either be mistaken about what you are using or just full of it.

  1. With 99.n% nicotine: use full hazmat precautions. This means a fume cupboard (with air extraction to outside the building) and gloves. Dilute the pure material with an excipient such as glycerol or PG (propylene glycol), to 20% strength (200mg/ml) or lower. For human consumption purposes, all of the materials must be of pharmaceutical grade. The final retail product must be batch marked, and extensively tested for precise nicotine strength and any form of contamination (such as DEG).
  2. There is no other safe way to han

    dle the pure material. If you don’t have a fume cupboard with air extraction, then buy pre-diluted nicotine as this is comparatively safe to handle: you don’t need a fume cupboard. It is available at 200mg, 100mg, 72mg strengths for example (20%, 10%, 7.2%), mixed with the diluent of your choice. This is the sensible way to buy the product.
Exactly.
I've also been using 1000mg (99.5%pure) nicotine for about 2 or 3 years now and have not had any problems with it. While I am cautious when handling it, I am not afraid of it or over cautious to the point of wearing protective gear that so would only be cumbersome and get it the way. I don't even bother with latex gloves anymore unless it's for someone else.

I usually purchase 500ml of 1000mg nicotine at a time and dilute it down to 250mg if it's for myself and store it in 120ml amber bottles with conical caps and argon to remove most of the oxygen. Then I put it in a mini freezer until needed. I also keep bulk e-juice I purchased on clearance in same freezer. I keep this freezer locked to be sure my kids don't get in to it.

I dilute down to 100mg using same process if it's for someone else.

I do agree pure nicotine is a dangerous poison AND IF YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING DONT MESS WITH IT!!. BUT, I also believe if you have a respect for that danger, you will be ok working with it.

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True, but like Steve said, why bother? 100mg is plenty cheap, and safe. Heck, I have some 300mg that I still haven't even opened because I still have plenty of 100mg to use up. Once that's gone, I'll dilute the 300mg down to 3 100mg liters.
 

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Ohh I stopped. he is on ignore and no peeking.
And I will not be sniping his posts of course since I do not know what they say.

I will NOT put up with his behavior towards me and ignore is the best way.

Jump on both instead of the guilty one?
You're BOTH guilty. And this is the only response you'll get from me with your bait posts.
 

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I'm still active, just a little at ECF. As I explain there, I like both forums. Seems clear though I prefer here a little more. Though of late I'm getting fed up with any and all forums in general. There's only so much to say, so much to read.

What is it today people, even MOD's trying to stir shit up and baiting people. You really need to quote me from over a year ago? Like I give two shits about this waste of flesh?
 

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FUCKING STOP! BOTH OF YOU!!! It's assholes like you two that drive new people away from this forum!

January so why not stop fucking quoting people to just stir the shit up or pour some fuel on the fire......................
 

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January so why not stop fucking quoting people to just stir the shit up or pour some fuel on the fire......................
Sorry dude, not what I was trying to do. There were new posts in this thread, and I hadn't realized that those posts were that long ago. You know me well enough to know that I don't try to stir shit up.
 

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Sorry dude, not what I was trying to do. There were new posts in this thread, and I hadn't realized that those posts were that long ago. You know me well enough to know that I don't try to stir shit up.

Yeah I know you but there have been times we butted heads. I still like you but GFY and look back in this thread to see exactly who might be the one trying to stir the fire.
 

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Was that really necessary?

Shit yeah if we are friends I can tell you to GFY~! Or are you turning into a pussy who gets offended now? :vino:Sorry buddy but getting a bit tired of the douche bags and if I offended you I don't give a shit~!
 

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Nice to read how one rates with alleged friends. Think it is clear that I do not worry about time. I simply don't. It should also be clear I state an opinion at times the same as everyone else, stating their opinions. My opinion in this case is I don't think it matters too much what forums anyone visits. Sorry if that seemed to "stir shit".

Maybe I'll just not bother saying a fucking thing, period. This is why I get to a point of apathy over any forum. People act as they do and I feel like there's no point to bother saying anything. If I do, well I'm told how wrong I am, or how I've waited too long, or how I'm "stirring shit". Fuck, it's a public forum is it not? People post their opinions do they not?

I do not always agree with everything that everyone says here, there or any other Internet forum. I also don't always bother disagreeing loudly on the forum. I also do not always post an opinion. And I'm sorry if it's not clear but I don't argue over opinion, or at least try to not do that. Life is bad enough to not have that in forums. Oh well, reckon I'm completely wrong and stirring shit to feel that way too, of course I'm a total douche eh, so it ought to be expected.

Let me clear the issue of time up. Does everyone read everything written by everyone else all the exact time it gets written? Is everyone expected to all reply, respond all at the exact time something someone writes? I know sometimes I might not get to reading something from five years ago. The Internet and web are rather large and disperse like that, you can go for days reading about lots of stuff, catching up after years.

Then, sometimes too there's the issue of not wanting respond until you can think the subject matter through, possibly look at it through the other person's eyes if you can. Sometimes you might also think what has been said resonates with anything you could add, or maybe you are still trying to understand how a conclusion was brought to bear. You might ask but then you don't want to feel silly having it explained.

Given all these considerations, I'm not exactly sure why time holds relevance over any conversation, unless it is explicitly stated it requires a time frame. "We're debating the issue of wanting to make a road by the stump. Please understand we're limiting this discussion to one week;" to demonstrate an example. Which in that case, sure fine check the date/time stamps, if you're outside the specified time no point replying. Otherwise conversation hangs out and is open.

Ah, but then too that's probably douche of me to think that way. Oh well, I'll log off and be all douche with my douche self.
 
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