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fq06

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Is anyone making juice for the new pod style vapes?
My wife picked up a suorin air and I did too about a week later for the office.
The juice is crazy expensive. Like $17 for 30ml... whaaaatttt?

Anyway, I am picking up some salt nicotine and wondering how much more (if any) flavoring I would need given the lack of vapor these devices make compared to my squonkers.
If a recipe is at 10%, do you bump it to 15%? Or 20%? Or..?

Maybe no one is mixing pod sauce yet and I'm just going to have to wing it. For the heck of it I'm mixing up a 5ml with regular VT nic at 20mg/ml:zombie: while I wait for the salts. I'm not good at patience :giggle:
 
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Is anyone making juice for the new pod style vapes?
My wife picked up a suorin air and I did too about a week later for the office.
The juice is crazy expensive. Like $17 for 30ml... whaaaatttt?

Anyway, I am picking up some salt nicotine and wondering how much more (if any) flavoring I would need given the lack of vapor these devices make compared to my squonkers.
If a recipe is at 10%, do you bump it to 15%? Or 20%? Or..?

Maybe no one is mixing pod sauce yet and I'm just going to have to wing it. For the heck of it I'm mixing up a 5ml with regular VT nic at 20mg/ml:)zombie:) while I wait for the salts. I'm not good at patience :giggle:


More than welcome to comb thru my elr.. I have only a few.. but really it all depends on what you mix with. ;)

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fq06

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Thank you!
So the %'s look low even for a super concentrate, would you say those are about normal %'s for the flavorings you would use for a non pod juice? So no real adjustment needed?
Thanx
 

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I mix some, every flavoring has a different strength - some flavorings kill me at 1%, others can go up to 15% and be mild, but if you browse ELR or the DIY forum you might get an idea

My high nic salt mixes have between 10% and 20% flavoring, the lower % ones seem to fade a little after a few months so I recommend making small batches, 30mL or less (lasts a while in a pod anyway right)
 

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Thank you!
So the %'s look low even for a super concentrate, would you say those are about normal %'s for the flavorings you would use for a non pod juice? So no real adjustment needed?
Thanx


If you look thru all of my recipes for flv.. not many do I change.
I do suggest, learn your flavors starting super low, and work up to where you can taste them, starting with solos.
Take a lot of notes, such as I cant taste here, or this is perfect.. include ideas on what it might par with and what it won't..

Not all flavor manufactures are the same.. your results might vary, along with your taste buds :)
 

fq06

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Thanx all.
I'll just start with a favorite of mine and not change flavor % at all to see if the overall % needs to change for a pod mix once I get to vape it.

Yeah Peg, the pod sauce lasts forever, wish the stores sold 15ml. I'll stick to mixing small batches cuz 5ml will last 2 weeks in a pod lol.
Guess it's finally time to get a scale...
 
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I typically mix at 60/40 vg/pg. My daughter reports it burns her Sourin cartridges quickly. Should I switch to PG dominant?


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I typically mix at 60/40 vg/pg. My daughter reports it burns her Sourin cartridges quickly. Should I switch to PG dominant?


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you could try out a 40vg/60pg blend and see.
I owned a sourin, and it did not last long at all.. I wish you the best.. :)
 

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Agree with bumping the PG % higher.
It could also be the flavorings used. A real sweet or dessert juice of any kind can gunk up coils faster than a fruit mix with a light amount of sweetener.
 

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I typically mix at 60/40 vg/pg. My daughter reports it burns her Sourin cartridges quickly. Should I switch to PG dominant?


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I would use at least 70% PG for typical pods like the Suorin
 

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I find that 50/50 for pods is just fine, but flavor needs to be bumped up quite a bit depending on the manufacturer. Even things like FlavourArt and Flavorah need adjusting. I made like 3 or 4 pod juices and couldn't taste a thing. I upped the flavor by quite a bit on the last one and it is pretty close to what I am looking for flavor wise or is at least vapable. I think increasing flavor by like 1.5% of what you would normally use. For companies like TFA I have noticed a need to increase almost double depending on whether or not the tfa flavor is the main note. It seemed like such an outlandish amount of flavor to me, but if you want to taste it, it needs to be done.
 

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I find that 50/50 for pods is just fine, but flavor needs to be bumped up quite a bit depending on the manufacturer. Even things like FlavourArt and Flavorah need adjusting. I made like 3 or 4 pod juices and couldn't taste a thing. I upped the flavor by quite a bit on the last one and it is pretty close to what I am looking for flavor wise or is at least vapable. I think increasing flavor by like 1.5% of what you would normally use. For companies like TFA I have noticed a need to increase almost double depending on whether or not the tfa flavor is the main note. It seemed like such an outlandish amount of flavor to me, but if you want to taste it, it needs to be done.

What pod devices do you use? What sorts of flavors have have you noticed need increasing? Have you tried less VG in place of higher % flavorings? Sorry for many questions, I'm genuinely interested in this subject a lot
 

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I find that 50/50 for pods is just fine, but flavor needs to be bumped up quite a bit depending on the manufacturer. Even things like FlavourArt and Flavorah need adjusting.

I find body chemistry very interesting. I am hoping to see if my work will sponsor me in a few classes next semester.

I can say for each one of us, we are all different, and what works for one person, might not for you.
I find with at least Flavorah and Medicine flower, a few others in that "ultra" category.. just changing the base is more than enough, as high taste is what they are built for. I have no issues tasting my juice in pods.. again, grateful we are all different. :)

I made like 3 or 4 pod juices and couldn't taste a thing. I upped the flavor by quite a bit on the last one and it is pretty close to what I am looking for flavor wise or is at least vapable. I think increasing flavor by like 1.5% of what you would normally use.

I can not see ginger, clove, alpine or even any of flv's cinnamons at 1.5% or even higher..
I wont taste anything at all for weeks. :(

For companies like TFA I have noticed a need to increase almost double depending on whether or not the tfa flavor is the main note. It seemed like such an outlandish amount of flavor to me, but if you want to taste it, it needs to be done.

How about this.. always test your juices and never ever stay locked into what works for you will work for me.. :)
 

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What pod devices do you use? What sorts of flavors have have you noticed need increasing? Have you tried less VG in place of higher % flavorings? Sorry for many questions, I'm genuinely interested in this subject a lot
So i use a smok nord most of the time. I have the orion go but I really don't like it. I will say, like @Smoky Blue has been saying, there really is no substitute for testing your flavors. The only downside to this is testing flavors in a pod is such a pain in the ass.

I don't think there is any hard and fast rule I have found as far as increasing flavorings. I think 50/50 vg/pg is probably my limit as far as less vg goes. I have noticed that it is more of a % increase on flavor use than just a general increase. So for example where I would use a flavorah flavor at 0.5% in a normal recipe (depending on the flavor, smoky mentioned rich cinnamon, and I probably wouldn't use this in a pod, but if I did I would NOT increase the % on this) I might use it around 1% in my pod. Same goes for things like FA, WF, INW, TFA, etc. The only difference is that 1.5 or 2x tfa and cap flavors increases the amount of flavor used dramatically where with others it doesn't seem like such an increase because you are going from like 1% to 2% or 2-4 etc.
 

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So i use a smok nord most of the time. I have the orion go but I really don't like it. I will say, like @Smoky Blue has been saying, there really is no substitute for testing your flavors. The only downside to this is testing flavors in a pod is such a pain in the ass.

I don't think there is any hard and fast rule I have found as far as increasing flavorings. I think 50/50 vg/pg is probably my limit as far as less vg goes. I have noticed that it is more of a % increase on flavor use than just a general increase. So for example where I would use a flavorah flavor at 0.5% in a normal recipe (depending on the flavor, smoky mentioned rich cinnamon, and I probably wouldn't use this in a pod, but if I did I would NOT increase the % on this) I might use it around 1% in my pod. Same goes for things like FA, WF, INW, TFA, etc. The only difference is that 1.5 or 2x tfa and cap flavors increases the amount of flavor used dramatically where with others it doesn't seem like such an increase because you are going from like 1% to 2% or 2-4 etc.

I am behind on pod systems - I still think of Juul or other itty bitty things with 2 ohm, nonreplaceable coils - yours is like a giant, turbopod, with even a 0.6 ohm coil option

I'll just walk away now and pretend I need some quiet contemplation :oops:
 

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I am behind on pod systems - I still think of Juul or other itty bitty things with 2 ohm, nonreplaceable coils - yours is like a giant, turbopod, with even a 0.6 ohm coil option

I'll just walk away now and pretend I need some quiet contemplation :oops:


I have a Sense Orbit TF.. well I have a few of them and love the crazy right.. the coils for it are a 1.1ohms and a .6ohm...
I mix with nothing but flv.. and the only thing I change for both coils is the base.. no need at all to change how high or low I go with the flavors..

guess what.. I have done the same thing with:
Juul
Alto
Vuse
Aspire NXT
Sourin Air
Voopoo Panda
Moti
Z biip
CT1

and many more.. just to prove to me, its all about changing the base.. and not the flavor amounts.
You see, I believe in less is more and less could be better for me.. and even tho this works for me.. it might not work for you.
The only way to tell.. is to try it. :) Now.. what are you waiting for? :)
 

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I have a Sense Orbit TF.. well I have a few of them and love the crazy right.. the coils for it are a 1.1ohms and a .6ohm...
I mix with nothing but flv.. and the only thing I change for both coils is the base.. no need at all to change how high or low I go with the flavors..

guess what.. I have done the same thing with:
Juul
Alto
Vuse
Aspire NXT
Sourin Air
Voopoo Panda
Moti
Z biip
CT1

and many more.. just to prove to me, its all about changing the base.. and not the flavor amounts.
You see, I believe in less is more and less could be better for me.. and even tho this works for me.. it might not work for you.
The only way to tell.. is to try it. :) Now.. what are you waiting for? :)


That's kind of what I was getting at - that instead of altering a recipe's flavor %, I use more PG/less VG - I've never had a problem with leaking or flavor lack using less VG in pods - I do not agree with the idea that nic salts mute flavor, either. VG does, yep. Especially if you're making tiny toots of vapor at a time.
 

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That's kind of what I was getting at - that instead of altering a recipe's flavor %, I use more PG/less VG - I've never had a problem with leaking or flavor lack using less VG in pods - I do not agree with the idea that nic salts mute flavor, either. VG does, yep. Especially if you're making tiny toots of vapor at a time.


and to think when you go higher pg... it is what carries the flavor to begin with..
and we all wonder why "blindness" happens in things like.... strawberry ;)
 

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and to think when you go higher pg... it is what carries the flavor to begin with..
and we all wonder why "blindness" happens in things like.... strawberry ;)


VG absolutely kills coffee, too - I havent gotten to make coffee custard (that @wildgypsy70 helped me with a year ago) in forever because all my mtl vapes are gone now - high vg and coffee is kinda gross
 

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